KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.

We have spotted one of the people putin the killer is funneling money to. Nah, you are a poor rat, no one is paying you for this vomit.
I believe people like you who long for the evil days to return needs not to be in the future.

Workch:
the military built first Niger bridge, if you look at both bridges, you will agree with me that the first one has more quality.

The military upgraded Apapa port and during military regime, all ports in Nigeria were functioning maximally.

These are simple things that this wicked democratic government cannot do

What do u people derive in spreading falsehood and propaganda.

First Niger bridge was built during the reign of Tafawa balewa.

Depriest2020:

A good example of a benevolent dictator is muammar Gaddafi of Libya.

Gaddaffi was a benevolent dictator who gave his citizens $10,000.00 when they get married and he settles them in a council flat.

Like Paul Biya that has ruled Cameroon for 41 years?

garykoeman:

What do u people derive in spreading falsehood and propaganda.

First Niger bridge was built during the reign of Tafawa balewa.

Tafawa Balewa was murdered within 14 Days of completing and opening the Onitsha Bridge by major Ifeajuna of Onitsha

MEEVEET:

Africa need to do what Europe did form countries alone ethnic lines simple

It kills tribal sentiment
Unit the people
Create healthy competition

Africa needs minimum of 250 nations minimum we have more diversity than Europe by far

You are right about the tribal settlement


I was shocked to see a region donate 97% of their votes for their kinsmen
I mean, 97% of votes coming from 5 states were given to just one candidate who is their brother, A guy, whose governor said his past investment was "close to nothing"

I just gave up on Nigeria at that point

richidinho:
In Nigeria, the millitary built 4 refineries

In the 24yrs of democracy na only private refinery dem see commission

The Third Mainland bridge we are cruising today was built by the same guys

There were 2 refinereis by 1966, and two more were built under army rule.

It was also under army rule that the army, in order to save subsidy costs, stopped doing regular TAM.

The result? The refinereis began running down.

The thing is, manufacturing needs to make profit.

KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.

Tinubu is far better than those ones you have mentioned up there. Far better. Just be a little patient.

ivolt:
Benevolent dictator is a myth.
Just like the statement, Nigeria is a rich country.

Go and get yourself a copy of the Wealth of Nation to understand
how development works.

The only good benevolent dictator I'll say did well...was Lee Kwam Yew of Singapore. And even then, the city state STILL had a parliament.

Gerrard59:




Typed from devices which capitalism made accessible and affordable.

Go to school? Mbanu! Stay in class and listen attentively to your Economics teacher? For where!!

LOL...Had to laugh at the call for communisim.

All Communist countries have either collapsed or are defacto capitalist, or are North Korea, a mutant large prision cult.

Gerrard59:


https://twitter.com/Megatron_ron/status/1686775791055519747?s=20

Just like you stated, once the base is established, that is it. No going back.

Yes. I'm glad an event that confirmed my position has happened. Realities has its patterns, if one understands it (especially when history has confirmed it), then one can predict it accurately most times.

For the US, if they want a base in your country, then negotiations is just the vehicle to put it there. Either the leaders are stupid and accept it without friction, or they overthrow the leader, and fund the one that will accept it (Eg Kosovo).

Even if the leader accepted it in good faith, it's final, there is no going back. In your mind, you think you're negotiating with a person that operate with moral codes in mind, but no, you're being played.

If one understand how manipulative people operate, it's not hard to understand America. Only a superior power can kick America out of their country. They understand strength and weakness, not good and bad.

The only two examples I can remember when the US pack up and left was when the French president Charles de Gaulle threatened to leave NATO if the USA won't pack it bases out of France. Then the US left.

The second time was when the UN recognised PRC as the sole government of all China (including Taiwan), then the PRC government told the US to pack out of its base in Taiwan.

If you notice, France and China are both nuclear powers. So they also have the monopoly of violence and can harm the US. Anything apart from this, the US will not leave.

They preach about territorial integrity, but those laws doesn't apply to them. UN is just an branch of US hegemony, they punish other weak countries but silent when it's the US committing a crime.

Currently, the territory that the US occupies in Syria for a very long time is bigger than the territory Russia occupies in Ukraine, but the media, UN, international community is silent about it. The US is an evil empire. They just masked it very well.

So yes. Many of the things i write here might sound outrageous to the unexposed mind, but with time, realities will prove everything to be true. Time always reveal all darkness.

LikeAking:


China!

Forget about what the west has told you...

It's worked in China...

They still operete it till today.

In the late 1970's the chinese abandoned communist economics for capitalist economics, albeit state run., but with a lot of room for private companies.

The thing is, communist economics failed. In 1987, there were several communist countries...then once the wall fell down, many of those companies in communist lands could not compete with Western companies.

Take Germany. West Germany had multiple car companies. East Germany had a state company that made two cars. (Volkswagen at the same time was making several variants of cars, to use one example). By the time the Wall came down, the state company could not compete...not because of Western complots, but because ...capitalism

You see, in Capitalist west Germany there were several car companies competitng with each other for the German and world market. So, they were incentivised to be the best, and to do better...otherwise they would collapse. Eastern Germany had one car company, with no competitors, that had to produce a car according to the diktat of the dictatorship of the protelariat. And the Trabant was useless...very useless.

Lack of competition breeds complacency. That's why all Communist government economies collapse.

China initally was like many communist countries running state enterprises...then in 1979, they woke up and started to allow private companies. They even went as far as (horrors) opeining up the economy to Western companies....and even allowed companies from all over the world to come in and compete with the local chinese companies. That is why Chinese products are getting better...they have become capitalist

Infact what they are practicing in China is not communism as Lenin, Marx, Engels and even Mao wanted it. Mao even tried to stop the changes that were going to happen via the Culitural Revolution, which nearly turned China into a country worse than African countries.

garykoeman:

What do u people derive in spreading falsehood and propaganda.

First Niger bridge was built during the reign of Tafawa balewa.

A lot of people make the mistake of thinking First Niger was built under army rule...it was opened by the civillans....because in the early part of the Civil war it was blown up by the Biafran army. After the war, it was repaired...and reopened. Hence the mistake people make about the bridge being build by the army.

Obrigardo:


We have spotted one of the people putin the killer is funneling money to. Nah, you are a poor rat, no one is paying you for this vomit.
I believe people like you who long for the evil days to return needs not to be in the future.

Putin is not paying him, oga. Also, Putin , compared to his predecessors, is very democratic. (No I am not a Putin fan). It's because i grew up when the USSR was still around, and when people were in essence told who to vote for, if there was a vote....

Thing is, people love dictatorships, because dictatorships offer stability. Demcoracy offers some form of 'organised anarchy' which is not to everyone's taste. (I also saw too many of the bad sides of dictatroships, which is why i am a fan of democracy.)

DevilsEqual:



You are right about the tribal settlement


I was shocked to see a region donate 97% of their votes for their kinsmen
I mean, 97% of votes coming from 5 states were given to just one candidate who is their brother, A guy, whose governor said his past investment was "close to nothing"

I just gave up on Nigeria at that point

Funny thing is that that reason always voted the same way... They have given none tribal members 99.8 percent

But people who vote 55;45 now gave their tribal man 80%

Jagaban is the answer.
Jagabaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Democracy is the best.

The simplest definition of democracy is a government of the people by the people and for the people.
Apart from Bostwana, every other sub-Saharan African country does not meet the criteria to be called a democracy.

Nigerian democracy is a government of the politicians and civil servants by the politicians and civil servants and for the politicians and civil servants. If you are not a politician or civil servant and do not have a business that caters to the desires of politician and civil servants, you are on your own.

Democracies, by definition, have a bottom-up structure. The people pay taxes and then demand services for their taxes. He/she/they who pays the piper dictates the tune.

Resource-rich democratic nations such as Norway share the wealth they derive with their citizens and then proceed to tax their citizens.

Nigeria is supposed to share all income from our oil wealth with the citizens before taxing the citizens. This can be achieved using Nigerians' National Identification numbers.

In dictatorships, communist and socialist nations, the governance structure is top-down. The Government does not require the citizens to pay taxes and is not answerable to anyone. Although we have elections in Nigeria because the Government is not accountable to the people, the Government does not share our oil wealth equitably amongst our people, and the Government does not collect appropriate taxes from us; Nigeria, as presently constituted, is, at best, a socialist state.

PS
Many brilliant Pan-Africanist argued against grants given to African nations from Western nations. They argued that such grants prevented African leaders from being dependent on their citizens for income and that this hampered investment in human capital development, leading to poverty in African Nations.


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grandstar
Knowall
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pansophist:

Yes. I'm glad an event that confirmed my position has happened. Realities has its patterns, if one understands it (especially when history has confirmed it), then one can predict it accurately most times.

For the US, if they want a base in your country, then negotiations is just the vehicle to put it there. Either the leaders are stupid and accept it without friction, or they overthrow the leader, and fund the one that will accept it (Eg Kosovo).

Even if the leader accepted it in good faith, it's final, there is no going back. In your mind, you think you're negotiating with a person that operate with moral codes in mind, but no, you're being played.

If one understand how manipulative people operate, it's not hard to understand America. Only a superior power can kick America out of their country. They understand strength and weakness, not good and bad.

The only two examples I can remember when the US pack up and left was when the French president Charles de Gaulle threatened to leave NATO if the USA won't pack it bases out of France. Then the US left.

The second time was when the UN recognised PRC as the sole government of all China (including Taiwan), then the PRC government told the US to pack out of its base in Taiwan.

If you notice, France and China are both nuclear powers. So they also have the monopoly of violence and can harm the US. Anything apart from this, the US will not leave.

They preach about territorial integrity, but those laws doesn't apply to them. UN is just an branch of US hegemony, they punish other weak countries but silent when it's the US committing a crime.

Currently, the territory that the US occupies in Syria for a very long time is bigger than the territory Russia occupies in Ukraine, but the media, UN, international community is silent about it. The US is an evil empire. They just masked it very well.

So yes. Many of the things i write here might sound outrageous to the unexposed mind, but with time, realities will prove everything to be true. Time always reveal all darkness.

Please how did this UN that is “just a branch of US hegemony”, recognise PRC ?

Since the US is an evil empire, does it mean that the Russian/Soviet and the Chinese empires are angelic cum saintly empires?

Why are Nigerians and blacks not doing japa to these angelic Russia and China, but sitting pretty in evil America and its European allies? Is this what it means to bite the hand of one’s benefactor

seguno2:


Please how did this UN that is “just a branch of US hegemony”, recognise PRC ?

Since the US is an evil empire, does it mean that the Russian/Soviet and the Chinese empires are angelic cum saintly empires?

Why are Nigerians and blacks not doing japa to these angelic Russia and China, but sitting pretty in evil America and its European allies? Is this what it means to bite the hand of one’s benefactor

I'm not the guy, but a lot of Nigerians do go to Russia and especially China , for studies and business purposes.

But the reason why more Nigerians go to the USA...is simple, opportunities aside. They speak English. We speak English. Russia and China don't. And when you need to hustle now, learning a new language can take time to learn, and that's difficult when ye need to make money.

South Korea and Japan are nicer than Russia and China..and yes some Nigerians go there, but at the end they are not many of them because they have to learn a language, and it takes time. Most European countries have Nigerians, but again, language limits the number of Nigerians there.

(I found your question interesting mind you).

nairalanda1:


In the late 1970's the chinese abandoned communist economics for capitalist economics, albeit state run., but with a lot of room for private companies.

The thing is, communist economics failed. In 1987, there were several communist countries...then once the wall fell down, many of those companies in communist lands could not compete with Western companies.

Take Germany. West Germany had multiple car companies. East Germany had a state company that made two cars. (Volkswagen at the same time was making several variants of cars, to use one example). By the time the Wall came down, the state company could not compete...not because of Western complots, but because ...capitalism

You see, in Capitalist west Germany there were several car companies competitng with each other for the German and world market. So, they were incentivised to be the best, and to do better...otherwise they would collapse. Eastern Germany had one car company, with no competitors, that had to produce a car according to the diktat of the dictatorship of the protelariat. And the Trabant was useless...very useless.

Lack of competition breeds complacency. That's why all Communist government economies collapse.

China initally was like many communist countries running state enterprises...then in 1979, they woke up and started to allow private companies. They even went as far as (horrors) opeining up the economy to Western companies....and even allowed companies from all over the world to come in and compete with the local chinese companies. That is why Chinese products are getting better...they have become capitalist

Infact what they are practicing in China is not communism as Lenin, Marx, Engels and even Mao wanted it. Mao even tried to stop the changes that were going to happen via the Culitural Revolution, which nearly turned China into a country worse than African countries.

Now you get my point.

A mordern society built with very mordern communist principles. ...

Not the old one. ..

This is the type of communism China is practising: Let's call it the biz communism, not the real communism it self..

The Chinese government have invested in her people than any country in the world..

China has the highest number of female billionaires I'm the world..

The govt of China still build industries more than any nation's government in the world..

It's the side of communism I am interested in.

LikeAking:


Now you get my point.

A mordern society built with very mordern communist principles. ...

Not the old one. ..

This is the type of communism China is practising: Let's call it the biz communism, not the real communism it self..

The Chinese government have invested in her people than any country in the world..

China has the highest number of female billionaires I'm the world..

The govt of China still build industries more than any nation's government in the world..

It's the side of communism I am interested in.

Actually, with all due respect, that is not communism.

Communisim is basically , roughly speaking, the state owning the means of production in the name of the protelariat. What they practice in China is straight up capitalism. They stopped practicing communism in their economic system ages ago, and are basically copying the zaibitsu system in Japan and the chaebol system in Korea.

Nothing like Biz communisim, infact, true communists are not businessmen or merchants. The state is meant to provide all your needs under the benevolence of the dear leader (LOL..I;m losing it here).

But seriously, what Nigeria needs to do is to become an exporter of manufactured goods, and it starts by manufacturing to meet our needs here, and then expanding to the world.

nairalanda1:



Actually, with all due respect, that is not communism.

Communisim is basically , roughly speaking, the state owning the means of production in the name of the protelariat. What they practice in China is straight up capitalism. They stopped practicing communism in their economic system ages ago, and are basically copying the zaibitsu system in Japan and the chaebol system in Korea.

Nothing like Biz communisim, infact, true communists are not businessmen or merchants. The state is meant to provide all your needs under the benevolence of the dear leader (LOL..I;m losing it here).

But seriously, what Nigeria needs to do is to become an exporter of manufactured goods, and it starts by manufacturing to meet our needs here, and then expanding to the world.

It's is..

Let's focus on the solution, not the name....

nairalanda1:

I'm not the guy, but a lot of Nigerians do go to Russia and especially China , for studies and business purposes.

But the reason why more Nigerians go to the USA...is simple, opportunities aside. They speak English. We speak English. Russia and China don't. And when you need to hustle now, learning a new language can take time to learn, and that's difficult when ye need to make money.

South Korea and Japan are nicer than Russia and China..and yes some Nigerians go there, but at the end they are not many of them because they have to learn a language, and it takes time. Most European countries have Nigerians, but again, language limits the number of Nigerians there.

(I found your question interesting mind you).

Apart from the language, does GREATER liberty in America and Western European countries also influence where Nigerians are voting for, with their legs

LikeAking:


China!


Forget about what the west has told you...

It's worked in China...

They still operete it till today.

China is not communist
At least not the special economic zones. Google it.they're capitalist Those are the only 20 prospering places in China.

I don't listen to the west

I watch with my own eyes

Unlike you that listens to the west

NO.

NO.
AFRICA NEEDS DISCERNING RULERS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT GOVERNMENTS.

NIGERIA NEEDS TO ADOPT FAPRES FOTCS AND CTC FOCS TRFG NOW TO BE A SHINING DEMOCRACY IN AFRICA AND THE WORLD.

seguno2:


Please how did this UN that is “just a branch of US hegemony”, recognise PRC ?

Since the US is an evil empire, does it mean that the Russian/Soviet and the Chinese empires are angelic cum saintly empires?

Why are Nigerians and blacks not doing japa to these angelic Russia and China, but sitting pretty in evil America and its European allies? Is this what it means to bite the hand of one’s benefactor

Why are you always being malicious with your questions? You still remain the only nairlander that I want to meet in person, just to beat mercilessly, Ike Ekweremadu style lol.

The UN has no choice but to recognize PRC, since it needs China in the bloc to confront and defeat the USSR. It is not an act of charity or benevolence but of strategic interest.

Russia and China are equally empires masquerading as countries, but they are not hegemons. Only the US is a hegemon, with a reach that covers the globe. That's the difference. China and Russia don't have an equivalent of the USD or military bases in all corners of the planet.

About Nigerians Japa´ing to the US and its European allies, this is an invalid question. I could also ask you, why are Kazakhstani Japa´íng to Russia? Why is Angolas Japa´ing to Portugal?

Why are Taiwanese Japa´ing to China? why are Poles Japa´ing to Germany? why are Brits Japa´ing to Australia? I hope you notice what I am doing here.

People migrate to places with the easiest shot at success. It has nothing to do with historical wounds. The West for the most part due to historical reasons, is easy to integrate with linguistically, and culturally, and also has the most wealth.

Black Americans have been abused for centuries, but they are still in the US in their tens of millions, should they leave? of course not. The goal is for the injustice to stop, not for the natural flow of people.

Now you see why I seriously want to beat you. You are being malicious when you ask questions, being intellectually dishonest. You are just looking for holes to poke in my comments, but unlucky for you, I am my own biggest critic.

I think things deep, and attack them from all angles before writing them, making them airtight, so I can defend them to the core.

pansophist:

Why are you always being malicious with your questions? You still remain the only nairlander that I want to meet in person, just to beat mercilessly, Ike Ekweremadu style lol.

The UN has no choice but to recognize PRC, since it needs China in the bloc to confront and defeat the USSR. It is not an act of charity or benevolence but of strategic interest.

Russia and China are equally empires masquerading as countries, but they are not hegemons. Only the US is a hegemon, with a reach that covers the globe. That's the difference. China and Russia don't have an equivalent of the USD or military bases in all corners of the planet.

About Nigerians Japa´ing to the US and its European allies, this is an invalid question. I could also ask you, why are Kazakhstani Japa´íng to Russia? Why is Angolas Japa´ing to Portugal?

Why are Taiwanese Japa´ing to China? why are Poles Japa´ing to Germany? why are Brits Japa´ing to Australia? I hope you notice what I am doing here.

People migrate to places with the easiest shot at success. It has nothing to do with historical wounds. The West for the most part due to historical reasons, is easy to integrate with linguistically, and culturally, and also has the most wealth.

Black Americans have been abused for centuries, but they are still in the US in their tens of millions, should they leave? of course not. The goal is for the injustice to stop, not for the natural flow of people.

Now you see why I seriously want to beat you. You are being malicious when you ask questions, being intellectually dishonest. You are just looking for holes to poke in my comments, but unlucky for you, I am my own biggest critic.

I think things deep, and attack them from all angles before writing them, making them airtight, so I can defend them to the core.

Many thanks for your indulgence in replying, despite thinking that the questions were malicious.
Have a great weekend.

pansophist:


Why are you always being malicious with your questions? You still remain the only nairlander that I want to meet in person, just to beat mercilessly, Ike Ekweremadu style lol.

Now you see why I seriously want to beat you. You are being malicious when you ask questions, being intellectually dishonest. You are just looking for holes to poke in my comments, but unlucky for you, I am my own biggest critic.

I think things deep, and attack them from all angles before writing them, making them airtight, so I can defend them to the core.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.

Kagame of Rwandan and I don't understand the other thing you wrote

One king 6 presidents, of the 6 geopolitical zones. The presidents can create more states for effective development across their zones .

federal govemennt running schools , universities, airports, hospitals and roads would be passed to d zonal president including running the police.

I think that would be a good idea.