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Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by KnowAll(m): 4:43am On Aug 16, 2023
Federal government would only be in charge of military and External affairs.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by plaetton: 4:52am On Aug 16, 2023
KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.
Sometimes I think like this too..
But, here are the facts.
There has never been a benign dictatorship Africa, talkless of a successful one.
In fact, looking back over the past 60yrs,African Dictators are mostly responsible for the embarrassing and pathetic failures in governance in Africa. The failure rate of non democratic governments or Dictatorships in Africa has been 99%.
Africa has been there, done that, and should have ultimately learned important lessons therein.

For example,Nigeria , every single travail we face today stemmed from military overthrow and intervention of democratic governments.
Why would we even contemplate something that has been tried and failed in almost every African country?

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Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by oyatz(m): 6:39am On Aug 16, 2023
Workch:
the military built first Niger bridge, if you look at both bridges, you will agree with me that the first one has more quality.

The military upgraded Apapa port and during military regime, all ports in Nigeria were functioning maximally.

These are simple things that this wicked democratic government cannot do


Many of you calling for return of Military Rule never witnessed Military Rule and you don't read to understand what happened then.


1) The First Niger Bridge was built by the Tafawa-Balewa Administration in 1965.

2) The Tafawa-Balewa Administration started the idea of a Third Mainland Bridge but the construction started under Gowon. Murtalar/Obasanjo and Shagari worked on it and was eventually completed by Babangida in 1991.
3) The First Oil Refinery was built by Shell-BP in 1965 , though the Tafawa-Balewa Administration later bought shares in it.

The Federal Military Government later acquired the Military by claiming that the FMG need to be in-charge of Oil Refinery, Distribution and Marketing!

This decision was the genesis of our problems in the oil sector.

Under the Tafawa-Balewa Administration, the FG had no business in the oil sector and there was never fuel scarcity or subsidy scam. At that time, different oil companies bought crude oil ,took them to the Refinery to refine, paid for the services of the Refinery and took the refined products to sell at their own prices in different parts of Nigeria.

The intervention of the Military Unified everything and put the FG in-charge.

If we had continued without the Military intervention, we would have been as developed as South Africa by now.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by oyatz(m): 6:44am On Aug 16, 2023
Workch:
Federal government is yet to build and maintain most seaport in Nigeria after the military.

Federal government is unable to secure the creeks after the military.

It's been 22 years, there absolutely nothing to show for democracy, development wise. Before democracy, Nigeria had 6 fully functioning ports and 3 working refineries, Democracy came and they messed it up.

It's not working


The Refineries stopped working under Abacha Regime.

Nigeria has witnessed greater developments since 1999 than under Military Rule.

Abia ,Osun and Kogi States were created in 1991 under Military Rule.
Between 19991-1999, how many roads, teaching hospitals, universities did the Military built in these States compared to what they witnessed within first nine years under democratic rule?

Human Development Index (HDI) had improved under democratic rule.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by gidgiddy: 7:19am On Aug 16, 2023
KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.

There is no such thing as a benevolent dictator
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by orisa37: 7:35am On Aug 16, 2023
OBJ IS A GOOD DEMOCRAT.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:02am On Aug 16, 2023
LikeAking:


Communism is the solution for Africa..
Nigeria is too poor for socialism and the people are too poor for capitalism.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:05am On Aug 16, 2023
Workch:
Federal government is yet to build and maintain most seaport in Nigeria after the military.

Federal government is unable to secure the creeks after the military.

It's been 22 years, there absolutely nothing to show for democracy, development wise. Before democracy, Nigeria had 6 fully functioning ports and 3 working refineries, Democracy came and they messed it up.

It's not working
You are talking as if it's not still under the military that the 3 "working" refinery died.
You're talking as if it's not under the military that Ajaokuta and DSC died.

You're talking as if the biggest kleptomaniac in Nigeria isn't a military man.

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Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:10am On Aug 16, 2023
adebayo987:
Right! But trust me, you don't want it. First, the economy will do great but the people won't be able to enjoy it as there's nothing like freedom. They'll ban a lot of things including clubing, some kind of music, some kind of dressing, some kind of lifestyle, the media will be controlled, protest under any condition will be impossible, you can't japa as you're japaing now no matter your situations as there would be very strict border and travel rules, etc. during the military rule in Nigeria, some people were taken to a corner and shot dead simply because they walked past a soldier without greeting him. Women were raped at will by soldiers. The economy prospered under Abacha but we all suffered and suffocated under the military as freedom of ordinary movement was not present. We all lived in fear despite having a solid economy. We all cried that military rule should end and let democracy come. Ormo, the kind of freedom we have now to both do business, prosper, and even worship, is the best and that's exactly what we need. Once you take away that freedom, guy, na slave you be o. Na women go suffer most as rape will be flying about like flees and no one will be punished for it. There will be nothing like freedom fighters or human right agitation as the leader will be executed like Ken Saro Wiwa and nothing will happen. Ken's agitation was not even against Nigeria but against Shell but Abacha made it personal. That's how dictators respond to protests that threatens his pocket. Don't pray for it, my guy.
You guys should stop this lie that the economy prospered during Abacha. The only thing he did was being able to maintain the naira at N22 to a dollar in his regime. Nothing else.
For the 3 years he was in office, he couldn't complete the remaining 5% of Ajaokuta.
Kerosene and fuel were scared. It was then that Abacha stove come to Nigeria cos there was no kerosene to cook. People were using sawdust.

Twas under Abacha that the decline of DSC started and it completely died a year after Abacha's exist.

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Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:11am On Aug 16, 2023
franchasofficia:
Democracy is for advanced countries that have built strong institutions that are bigger than the president and Governors and legislators.


Democracy is for countries that have at least 70% educated citizens, who will be rational in making decisions when casting their votes.


Democracy is not for African countries made up of multi ethnicities, unless they will make it constitutional to rotate their Presidency amongst the major tribes that makeup the country.


The fact that Nigeria is a multi ethnic State is the reason why dictatorship cannot work.
No ethnic group will want someone from another ethnic group to have absolute power over them.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:14am On Aug 16, 2023
The lack of responsibility and awareness will never cease to amaze.

The latest savior is the military..
Grown men hoping that a few, misguided, corrupt soldiers will somehow lead Africa out of our shrunken, shrivelled state and into greatness..
It would be surprising if the same thing had not been attempted just a few months ago with Peetobi..

The truth is that good things take time and effort.. You cannot throw 10 blocks and 2 bags of cement into the air and hope they build themselves into a mansion as they fall down.. You need architects and builders for that, not soldiers or failed politicians promising you heaven when all they've ever built is hell.

Life can be cruel sometimes... She will watch you grow old and die in frustration if you refuse to apply wisdom in your dealings with her..

If by some magic our democracy is toppled by soldiers, very few politcians operating today will lose their jobs, relevance or access... 3 or 4 big names will be dealt with ceremoniously to fool you, but Nigeria is too big for 40 soldiers to run without help.. Politicians will politick and you will be left in the cold, again, except this time the constitution will be suspended along with your fundamental human rights...

My advise... Go and register a company... Go in your hundreds of thousands if not millions.
Apply for these loans.. Seek advice.. Set up businesses.. GROW.. Become financially independent individuals first, then pool your new power together to build political movements, either parties or pressure groups. Use your combined resources to sponsor candidates who you direct to build a sample of the Nigeria of your dreams, using an LGA or 2 as test cases.. Demonstrate this superior governance ability that you claim to possess.. If it works you will win over converts, and your new ideology will turn into a true political movement, based on productivity and a promise of a better life, not on anger, depression, negativity and threats of violence and death..

This is the only real way to gain lasting power... Anything else is a lie.

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Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by maasoap(m): 8:15am On Aug 16, 2023
KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.

You don't know what you are asking for, trust me.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by franchasofficia: 8:22am On Aug 16, 2023
Perfectbeing:
The fact that Nigeria is a multi ethnic State is the reason why dictatorship cannot work.
No ethnic group will want someone from another ethnic group to have absolute power over them.
Then Nigeria must make it constitutional to rotate the President among the 6 geopolitical zones that make up Nigeria, and make it a single tenure of 6 years.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by KnowAll(m): 9:38am On Aug 16, 2023
The idea of benovelence is all resources belong to one man. Would a man steal from himself. The King of England & Saudi Arabia and Dubai are shinning examples.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 9:43am On Aug 16, 2023
franchasofficia:
Then Nigeria must make it constitutional to rotate the President among the 6 geopolitical zones that make up Nigeria, and make it a single tenure of 6 years.
That's rubbish. 6 years isn't enough to do anything tangible.

And the fact that if a person at 35 years try it be President and didn't make it, he'd have to wait for 36 years before he can try again is also rubbish. He'd be 71 before he can try again.

The current 4 years tenure with a max if 8 years is OK.
If any constitution should be there if should be a 8 years North and 8 years South.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 9:45am On Aug 16, 2023
KnowAll:
The idea of benovelence is all resources belong to one man. Would a man steal from himself. The King of England & Saudi Arabia and Dubai are shinning examples.
It can work for countries like Saudi and England that most of their people are kinda homogeneous.
Can't work in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria.

No tribe would want a Hausa or Igbo or Benin man to rule for 40 years.
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by franchasofficia: 10:35am On Aug 16, 2023
Perfectbeing:
That's rubbish. 6 years isn't enough to do anything tangible.

And the fact that if a person at 35 years try it be President and didn't make it, he'd have to wait for 36 years before he can try again is also rubbish. He'd be 71 before he can try again.

The current 4 years tenure with a max if 8 years is OK.
If any constitution should be there if should be a 8 years North and 8 years South.
You aren't being fair to Nigeria's ethnic diversity and this is how majority of Nigerians at the political class think and reason Nigeria will continue to dangle till it collapses against its own multiple issues
Re: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by Perfectbeing(m): 8:13pm On Aug 19, 2023
franchasofficia:
You aren't being fair to Nigeria's ethnic diversity and this is how majority of Nigerians at the political class think and reason Nigeria will continue to dangle till it collapses against its own multiple issues
How am I being unfair?
Giving someone just one shot for Presidency in his whole life looks fair to you?

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