AlexBells:

I can't be civilised to someone who chun out badly researched propaganda, it is a sin in my views and attracts outright condemnation by me.

You can't put political power in a democracy over economic and industrial power

paramakina202:


As if you do not know how it all started that ndi Igbo are being deliberately denied political power at the center.
Again what is the use for political power if you can't use it to develope your nation except to corruptly enrich some of your tribes men?

Kingozymandias:


To say political power is to nitpick, I am speaking holistically.

Address it that way . Power v money as the earlier thread did

AlexBells:

Reading your submission honestly make me sick, Nigeria is an economic and monetary entity, this same Nigeria the Igbos and the rest are part of it. The currency of a nation drives its values from its economic resources and as such they become a sort of synergy.

The Igbos controls the economy more than any other single tribe, money is how resources is exchange as money don't really exist, the Igbos has higher middle class and more local industries, those are indices for economic and financial metrics. He that have economic or finacial power would certainly be of recon that part of why Hitla detested the Jews and why the jews are still relevant to this day

igwebuike01:

Civilization keee you there. You will receive beating in your useless thread

igwebuike01:

Mumu. Positions gotten through magomago is not achievement. If someone is weak why has your plan to impoverish us fail?

AlexBells:

There is nothing like power vs money, do you mean electrical power, economic power, finacial power, political power, military power you must have to be specific what you mean before you make sense. There's nothing like money, it is just a means of exchange not a kind of power

Kingozymandias:


I agree with the bolded from a purely commerce perspective. But don't you think that prioritizing money over power has weakened the igbo tribe ?

Kingozymandias:


I addressed this in an earlier comment, perhaps you missed I when you were being aggressive. Kindly revert after reading it

AlexBells:
The thing you don't even understand is that money don't exist, however money is the most valuable means of power, with money you can buy other forms of power, you can only say that the Igbos haven't realised how powerful we are

AlexBells:

Your topic itself is wrong, you said money power but money is a means of exchange

Kingozymandias:


God counter point 🤔

Okay let me ask you this. Would you say Putin is rich? Not so much , even the former owner of Chelsea Abrahamovic is richer , but would you say putin os powerful? Dangoté is richer than Putin , even Davido is richer than Fashola, but are you aware Fashola is more powerful than Davido?
Let's look at the former governor of rivers state , Wike. Why do you think Wike nearly fired seeking to return I power ? If money were merely enough he wouldn't need to bother would he?

Now before you minimize it to politicial power why does Wike not dare question odili , even though he left power long ago and Wike is richer?

You see power is wholesome and can be divided into so many segments but in unison power is power.

So no let's discuss this from the perspective of the igbo tribe ?

creativehubb:
No single tribe has money more than the other, they are poor and rich people from every tribe. But we know where the richest men and families in Nigeria are from... Dangote, Otedola, Rabiu, Briggs family, Okoya family, Ibru family, Dantata family, Tejuosho family, Igbenedion family, Tinubu family, Saraki family, Folawiyo family, then you see Adeleke etc. All the names are people from southwest, North and south south.The fact that some make a lot of noise don't make them the wealthiest, some people are not inclined to brag, that's not what they are about. Op you are capping about who the richest is, you only see those that show off, riches and wealth is different. Nigeria is blessed, we all are great people.

helinues:
The bitter truth is Igbos don't have either money or power.

Igbos are not even in the top 3 richest in Nigeria not to talk of Africa. When you are rich, you will associate with the deep state who hold the power.

Kingozymandias:


That was in response to one member who said monetary power is more important which is the same as what you are saying the igbo tribe have so I was trying to let him or her know the difference

AlexBells:

How many Germans are in the top 10 richest in the world and why is Germany the biggest economy in Europe, how many Japanese are in the top richest 10 in the world and how big is Japan's economy stop typing rubbish

igwebuike01:

And you had to create threads to wail about igbos?

AlexBells:

You are making a big mistake comparing an individual with the head of a state of a country, Russia the largest resources in the planet so you can’t compare the head of Russia to say Elun musk but you here is talking about a people, you are talking about the Igbo people and not an Igbo individual, the Igbos also have a geography that is resources rich, we also have densely rich individuals and high Human Resources so the Igbo as a people are greetest in Nigeria.

So unless you ask one Igbo individual and Tinubu who is bigger currently, definitely Tinubu is but you used Igbo so you are referring to the people and not an individual and such that the Igbos are richer then we are greater.

DMerciful:
The average Igbo man is the richest in Nigeria.
Everybody knows this!

AlexBells:

Then if you are trying to let him or her know there difference then what have that got to do with me, work with facts and define terms before initiating arguments make sure you clearly understand the contexts

Kingozymandias:


Seems I made a wrong comparison so you missed my point . I apologize.

Let me reemphasize. Okay let's take WizKid and Kwam1 KSA , both are rich both are musicians,but who is more powerful?

Now let's take Dr Okonjo Iweala the president on WTO and Head Customer success access bank one Igbo lady let's call her Sandra . Both are rich ,both are educated and igbo but who is more powerful?

And why?

Couldntfigurean:
I’m one breath,Igbo love to dominate and fill all space in workplace
In another breathe,Igbo are not in Top ministeries
Why do you guys really want of ndigbo?

AlexBells:
You are still making a wrong comparison, let’s look at this way, That you are more focused on individuals than a collective society, the Igbos are a people. Not an individual and these people have a collective pattern of doing things. If we all agree to sit at home we sit at home, if we all agree to vote a particular candidate we vote them, we only need individuals who knows his game to seize political power.

You may want to say between bank and a collection of traders who is More powerful in a particular market what if all the traders decides not to use the bank, the bank would collapse but the traders won’t that’s a clear picture, Igbos can do without the government but the government can’t do without us

igwebuike01:


Check Dangote zone.

Kingozymandias:


Thank you my brother you just proved my point.🤣🤣🤣 I was telling one other member on front page that Igbos have money and no power , he as arguing Igbos don't have money, thanks for this.

Now you also can see for yourself my point ? Igbo focused on money too much neglected the need to have directors in NBA NMA NPA Chambers of commerce, NCC NBBS NIA DSS FAAN FIRS etc

This has left the Igbos ver weakened and vulnerable. The families should have not been focusing on business or seminary, they should start telling kids to graduate, professionalize and follow a career to the heights to become a director , not everyone should want to be Obi Cubana or E Money

Putinofrussia:


So you believe this fake thing.
Ok,where are most of the rich Igbos living?
Is it not SW?
I can post 100 rich SWesterners with verifiable businesses now but we cannot get even 50 rich SEstareners with verifiable businesses.

Reason why UNDP and World Bank have consistently posted SWesterners as the richest in Nigeria.

Kingozymandias:


I understand this quite clearly , now please indulge me and respond to my earlier comment and please give your reasons why you feel the way you do

Indulge me 🙏

Kingozymandias:


This fallacy has been debunked. Domt confuse islamic culture of Almajiri with poverty. Imagine because Igbos have a culture of wearing masquerade someone who doesn't know better assumes the Igbos are archaic because they see them dancing or playing with masquerades?

The North are not poorer than any region.

DMerciful:
Economic power will always be better than political power that is transient. What political power does Switzerland have, but the have the highest standard of living in the world. If you're giving the choice, would you be a Swiss or a Russian?

DMerciful:
Data does not lie