Why do Africans always blame slavery and colonialism for their suffering and underdevelopment?

The white man didn’t kidnap black Africans from their continent’s. It was their fellow blacks that kidnapped them and sold them into slavery.

During economic boom, larger infrastructural development and mass production, there was need for massive cheap labor. The whites were already thinking of larger scale mass production at a time Africans were still half or completely naked, they didn’t kidnap black people but it was the Africans that sold their own people into slavery.

But shortly everything came to an end during the industrialization era, Where machines and mechanization were rather developed for that purpose and there was a continuous decline for larger human work force.

After colonialism and independence blacks still blaming their colonial masters for under development. If not for colonialism black people would have still be in bushes half naked were they where before the invasion. The slavery painting pictures and statues in museums all over the world doesn’t lie of the status of the black men and women at the time.

There is almost no tribe that exists in the world without storyof slavery

Even in Europe once two kingdoms fight they take the lossers as slaves

fineboynl:
Why do Africans always blame slavery and colonialism for their suffering and underdevelopment?

The white man didn’t kidnap black Africans from the their continent’s. It was their fellow blacks that kidnapped them and sold them into slavery.

During economic boom, larger infrastructural development and mass production, there was need for massive cheap labor. The whites were already thinking of larger scale mass production at a time Africans were still half or completely naked, they didn’t kidnap black people but it was the Africans that sold their own people into slavery.

But shortly everything came to an end during the industrialization era, Where machines and mechanization were rather developed for that purpose and there was a continuous decline for larger human work force.

After colonialism and independence blacks still blaming their colonial masters for under development. If not for colonialism black people would have still be in bushes half naked were they where before the invasion. The slavery pictures and statues in museums all over the world doesn’t lie of the status of the back men and women at the time.

You obviously don't have ambition so you won't notice the obstacles placed... The low ceiling faced by people

This is the same question people ask igbos

Colonial masters left Africa in a structure that is almost impossible to progress... We were set up to fight and kill ourselves ( there was a reason France insisted to be sole arms supplier to its colonies)

Restructure Europe like Africa and watch them kill themselves in 3 years

Every country progressing today is either structured along ethnic lines or settler nations where indigenous people have insignificant population

You can't have a country like Nigeria n work it's impossible

mrvitalis:


You obviously don't have ambition so you won't notice the obstacles placed... The low ceiling faced by people

This is the same question people ask igbos

Colonial masters left Africa in a structure that is almost impossible to progress... We were set up to fight and kill ourselves ( there was a reason France insisted to be sole arms supplier to its colonies)

Restructure Europe like Africa and watch them kill themselves in 3 years

Every country progressing today is either structured along ethnic lines or settler nations where indigenous people have insignificant population

You can't have a country like Nigeria n work it's impossible

its because of the intelligence of the typical black man.

If things are not working why cant black people sit themselves down and discuss the way forward and solve their problem? Afterall black people outnumber the white people.

Why can’t black find a solution since things aren’t working.

The colonialists dealt a big blow on the psyche of Black Africans in a way that can't be explained.. forget the cosmetic independence we're celebrating in Africa, the Europeans are still very much in control of our resources and leaders.

Look at Nigeria for example.. whosoever wants to contest for President will go to Chattam house to give speech for the slavemasters to vet and scrutinize.. how do you expect Nigeria to progress under such arrangement?

The younger generations that should be thinking of how to take back and rescue Africa are busy thinking of 'JAPA'.. when they eventually Japa, they'll end up with boredom, loneliness and depression in the foreign lands when it dawns on them they aren't valued or needed there.

flokii:
The colonialists dealt a big blow on the psyche of Black Africans in a way that can't be explained.. forget the cosmetic independence we're celebrating in Africa, the Europeans are still very much in control of our resources and leaders.

Look at Nigeria for example.. whosoever wants to contest for President will go to Chattam house to give speech for the slavemasters to vet and scrutinize.. how do you expect Nigeria to progress under such arrangement?

The younger generations that should be thinking of how to take back and rescue Africa are busy thinking of 'JAPA'.. when they eventually Japa, they'll end up with boredom, loneliness and depression in the foreign lands when it dawns on them they aren't valued or needed there.

is it the white people that’s electing African leaders?

Leadership of any nation is the reflection of the people. Leaders didn’t fall from sky.

It was during the period of slavery that Africa lost its technology and some of her history.

All those artifacts those whites stole meant alot but very few people knows

fineboynl:
is it the white people that’s electing African leaders?

Leadership of any nation is the reflection of the people. Leaders didn’t fall from sky.

You have valid points.. but who are those framing up and killing leaders with foresight and interest of Africa at heart if not the Europeans?. They come and ask your governments to take loans and do their biddings wherein refusal to comply get the Presidents and Heads of States eliminated.

How is Libya today, many years after Muammar Gadaffi was killed?

flokii:
The colonialists dealt a big blow on the psyche of Black Africans in a way that can't be explained.. forget the cosmetic independence we're celebrating in Africa, the Europeans are still very much in control of our resources and leaders.

Look at Nigeria for example.. whosoever wants to contest for President will go to Chattam house to give speech for the slavemasters to vet and scrutinize.. how do you expect Nigeria to progress under such arrangement?

The younger generations that should be thinking of how to take back and rescue Africa are busy thinking of 'JAPA'.. when they eventually Japa, they'll end up with boredom, loneliness and depression in the foreign lands when it dawns on them they aren't valued or needed there.

You guys believe all lies sold to you.

Please show me where Obasanjo went to chattam house in 1999 or 2003 or where Yaradua went there.

Our problem is our mentality and aproach to issues, yes the colonial masters share a big blame but shame on africa if we are gonna continue crying, if we dont have the balls to truly declare our independence and fiht for it. Shame on us.

The imperialist does everything for their best interest, who suspended our brains to think beyond tribes and religion?

Until you begin to learn to take responsibilities, true liberation is far.

When I see senseless post like the one this OP put out about Africans living in stone age and running around naked; I feel an ineffable push to run amuck and bash sense into some empty skulls.

I mean; before the whites even dreamed of coming to Africa, Africans made sculptural work like this>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Bronzes

Does African civilization like Benin empire who made sculptural work with bronze, look like stone age people running around naked.

Go learn your history and stop being a western idiot spitting on the legacy of your ancestors, cos without knowing where you're coming from, you'll have no clue where you're going to.

cyprus000:
When I see senseless post like the one this OP put out about Africans living in stone age and running around naked; I feel an ineffable push to run amuck and bash sense into some empty skulls.

I mean; before the whites even dreamed of coming to Africa, Africans made sculptural work like this>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benin_Bronzes

Does African civilization like Benin empire who made sculptural work with bronze, look like stone age people running around naked.

Go learn your history and stop being a western idiot spitting on the legacy of your ancestors, cos without knowing where you're coming from, you'll have no clue where you're going to.

no doubt the Benin and Fulani where far ahead of other Africa tribes. The Binis already had contact with the Portuguese at the time, and the Fulani had contact with Arabs.

It's crucial to acknowledge the historical impact of slavery and colonialism on the African continent, but it's also important to recognize that contemporary challenges have complex roots. A nuanced discussion about this topic can help us better understand the intersection of history and current issues in Africa.

Because they created artificial countries full of nations that aren’t that compatible. If Africans colonized Europe, and put England, Germany, and Russia in one country, then after 20 years said, “never mind, you are free”, you would see the same corruption, tribalism and chaos.

fineboynl:
its because of the intelligence of the typical black man.

If things are not working why cant black people sit themselves down and discuss the way forward and solve their problem? Afterall black people outnumber the white people.

Why can’t black find a solution since things aren’t working.

The bolded is the crux of the matter! When you find the answer, let us know!

See Nigeria as a case study! We know we are incompatible and don’t like each other, yet we pretend all is well and the magic wand is to ‘elect’ one questionable character to rule the asylum and all will be well! We keep on ignoring the elephant in the room and think we can progress by doing the same thing over and over again!

mrvitalis:


You obviously don't have ambition so you won't notice the obstacles placed... The low ceiling faced by people

This is the same question people ask igbos

Colonial masters left Africa in a structure that is almost impossible to progress... We were set up to fight and kill ourselves ( there was a reason France insisted to be sole arms supplier to its colonies)

Restructure Europe like Africa and watch them kill themselves in 3 years

Every country progressing today is either structured along ethnic lines or settler nations where indigenous people have insignificant population

You can't have a country like Nigeria n work it's impossible

You people always look for ways to make excuses for your failures, but you never take responsibility for them.

What's wrong with the black man?

Let's even say that Nigeria is not working. Is the white man stopping us from splitting the country? No way! We are our own problem!

Listen, there's rarely any country in this world where everyone comes from the same tribe. A people understand what nationhood means, set goals and work towards it on the framework of justice, equity and fairness.

With a population of over 300 million immigrants from all over the world, the United States is more diverse than any other country you can think of. I am not writing about different tribes, but different races! Yet, those guys understand there's strength in diversity, they are tapping into it and making progress. Today, the whole of Nigeria wants to empty into America.

We have a country of just 200 million people of entirely black people, but we cannot manage ourselves. While more diverse America is making progress, Nigerians are busy blaming the colonial masters for the same evil they do unto themselves. When we say that Nigerians lack creativity and are too mentally lazy, some people get angry.

Go and read about how the white man arrived cold and unfertile Canada. Despite the terrible climate of the land, they never left until they made something out of it. Today, again, Nigerians want to empty into Canada.

We have seen how Rwanda has two major tribes but keeps electing Paul Kagame from a minority tribe to lead them for years because they saw the huge potential in him. In Nigeria, we elect idiots and wail that they don't know what the are doing because electoral decisions are based on tribe and religion.

Lest I forget, in Nigeria, we are full of evil, greed and wickedness clothed with religion. We hate one another. Even if you split Nigeria into 50 units, there won't be love among the 50 countries that came out of defunct Nigeria because the only thing we care about is oppression, selfishness, showoff, wickedness, crimes, avarice, and we cover all these evils with religion.

This country needs to be totally reshuffled because we are a sick people!

mrvitalis:


You obviously don't have ambition so you won't notice the obstacles placed... The low ceiling faced by people

This is the same question people ask igbos

Colonial masters left Africa in a structure that is almost impossible to progress... We were set up to fight and kill ourselves ( there was a reason France insisted to be sole arms supplier to its colonies)

Restructure Europe like Africa and watch them kill themselves in 3 years

Every country progressing today is either structured along ethnic lines or settler nations where indigenous people have insignificant population

You can't have a country like Nigeria n work it's impossible

Pure nonsense.

Africans hate themselves. That's the reason we don't progress.
Africans harder plan for the future. They only think about their personal needs t at any given instant. Africa breeds the worst leaders in the history of the world.
Sure, the Europeans are Greedy, but the greed of African leaders is the primitive, self-serving greed.

SmartPolician:


You people always look for ways to make excuses for your failures, but you never take responsibility for them.

What's wrong with the black man?

Let's even say that Nigeria is not working. Is the white man stopping us from splitting the country? No way! We are our own problem!

Listen, there's rarely any country in this world where everyone comes from the same tribe. A people understand what nationhood means, set goals and work towards it on the framework of justice, equity and fairness.

With a population of over 300 million immigrants from all over the world, the United States is more diverse than any other country you can think of. I am not writing about different tribes, but different races! Yet, those guys understand there's strength in diversity, they are tapping into it and making progress. Today, the whole of Nigeria wants to empty into America.

We have a country of just 200 million people of entirely black people, but we cannot manage ourselves. While more diverse America is making progress, Nigerians are busy blaming the colonial masters for the same evil they do unto themselves. When we say that Nigerians lack creativity and are too mentally lazy, some people get angry.

Go and read about how the white man arrived cold and unfertile Canada. Despite the terrible climate of the land, they never left until they made something out of it. Today, again, Nigerians want to empty into Canada.

We have seen how Rwanda has two major tribes but keeps electing Paul Kagame from a minority tribe to lead them for years because they saw the huge potential in him. In Nigeria, we elect idiots and wail that they don't know what the are doing because electoral decisions are based on tribe and religion.

Lest I forget, in Nigeria, we are full of evil, greed and wickedness clothed with religion. We hate one another. Even if you split Nigeria into 50 units, there won't be love among the 50 countries that came out of defunct Nigeria because the only thing we care about is oppression, selfishness, showoff, wickedness, crimes, avarice, and we cover all these evils with religion.

This country needs to be totally reshuffled because we are a sick people!

Well said

plaetton:

Pure nonsense.

Africans hate themselves. That's the reason we don't progress.
Africans harder plan for the future. They only think about their personal needs t at any given instant. Africa breeds the worst leaders in the history of the world.
Sure, the Europeans are Greedy, but the greed of African leaders is the primitive, self-serving greed.

Lmao and Europe love themselves?

Are you ready for for tribal identity to die? Because that's the only way to make Nigeria work

mrvitalis:

Lmao and Europe love themselves?

Are you ready for for tribal identity to die? Because that's the only way to make Nigeria work

Yes, even Europeans spread to conquer, they did so for their countries, to secure the future of their nations. They went out , knowing that they may die in their journeys and they might not ever personally reap the fruits of their efforts. Their effort were for the future generations of Europeans. Today, they still plan decades ahead for their future generations.
The African man can betray his own mother, talkless of his nation for a loaf of swewt bread now.

So tribal identity , as you mentioned, is just another name for self-hatred.
It is cutting one's nose to spite one's face.

plaetton:


Yes, even Europeans spread to conquer, they did so for their countries, to secure the future of their nations. They went out , knowing that they may die in their journeys and they might not ever personally reap the fruits of their efforts. Their effort were for the future generations of Europeans. Today, they still plan decades ahead for their future generations.
The African man can betray his own mother, talkless of his nation for a loaf of swewt bread now.

So tribal identity , as you mentioned, is just another name for self-hatred.
It is cutting one's nose to spite one's face.

Before doing that what happened? People who fought themselves for over 1000 years? Maybe you need to read more

Because they cannot use their brains to think up a solution. They rather blame or pray to God for help.

I think nature played Africa a bad hand, in the sense that the consequence that made Europeans prosper in advanced and sophisticated technology which also pushed them well ahead of the other races was not present here.

We were swimming in richness of lands, foods, warmth, what have you.

They had more difficulties which prompted innovation and when they discovered Africa they wanted a taste of those things we enjoyed and unfortunately for us, they found us defenseless.

But whatever Europeans/whites did to us was in the past.

We should stop looking back into this gory past for starters and find a way to stand on our own where we can truly be independent.

African leaders should very much invest more in education and less in white elephant project.

I used to believe that the black race is inferior to whites but not anymore.

We are just not willing or so preoccupied with other things (distractions: how to rule our selves using the white man template for example) to realize our full potential in the scheme of things.

Nonetheless, I see the black man standing up for himself oneday and be reckoned with.

Nothing too bad in where we are now life is not a race.

We may be in our learning faze.

Singapore/Malaysia, Bahamas, India, Hong Kong, UAE, Qatar, and China to an extent etc were all colonised. today where are they today. Nigerians and Africans have refused to have sense of how to come together and develop. There is no civilization that which slavery didn't exist. Romans, Egyptians, Aztecs, Persians, and Africans had slaves, mostly from defeated enemies.

LOVEALAIGBO:


The bolded is the crux of the matter! When you find the answer, let us know!

See Nigeria as a case study! We know we are incompatible and don’t like each other, yet we pretend all is well and the magic wand is to ‘elect’ one questionable character to rule the asylum and all will be well! We keep on ignoring the elephant in the room and think we can progress by doing the same thing over and over again!

It’s called being SENSIBLE.

Nigerians have decided to remain ONE nation because it is the SENSIBLE thing to do.

Why?

Because in today’s world, SIZE MATTERS.

ESPECIALLY when you are a developing nation.

Look at President Tinubu. He was invited to the G20 summit in India. Of major world economies.

Because he is president of Nigeria, Africa’s biggest economy and biggest nation, with gigantic economic and industrial potential. A country projected to become the 3rd most populous nation on earth after India and China by 2050, meaning a magnet for massive investment by world firms in the years ahead.

Do you think if you were a tiny BIAFRA, that your leader would be invited to the G20 summit to PUSH YOUR NATIONAL INTERESTS?

Was Sierra Leone or Guinea-Bissau invited to the G20?

Because THAT would be your level as individual republics after you split up Nigeria in your dreams.

Do you have any FCKING CLUE what leaders of TOGO and LIBERIA will be thinking when they see Tinubu at the G20 having one-on-one meetings with Narendra Modri, closing 14 billion dollar investment deals on his first day in India with the likes of the 100 billion dollar worth Hinduja conglomerate? Giving investment motivation speeches to a room filled with India’s richest billionaires and investors?

They are thinking “GADEMN! Wish we were as big and important as NIGERIA.”

THAT’S WHAT THEY ARE ALL THINKING, from Liberia to Ghana to Kenya to Malawi to Uganda.

While MUMUS LIKE YOU WITH ZERO COMMON SENSE are saying NIGERIA should break up and scatter!

Stop saying Nigerians hate each other.

IT IS YOU IGBOS WHO HATE NIGERIANS. Nobody else.

SO don’t project your hatred to all Nigerians, you narcissists.

So short sighted and myopic that you cannot see your amazing potential as a nation. While the rest of Africa ENVY YOUR STATUS as Africa’s leading nation.

IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA, GO. BYE BYE.

But we will NOT break up Nigeria for you or for anybody.

The countries you admire today, go and read their histories. In Russia, Stalin slaughtered over 30 million of his people in the last century. China shut its borders for 30 years, causing great hardship, just to force its people to develop indigenous technology. Thousands if not millions of opposition activists were killed by the Communist Party, to maintain that policy.

So Nigeria having problems is not a new phenomenon with nations. Our job is to find ways to surmount those difficulties and build a nation the black world can be proud of.

AND WE WILL.

Quintessence44:


It’s called being SENSIBLE.

Nigerians have decided to remain ONE nation because it is the SENSIBLE thing to do.

Why?

Because in today’s world, SIZE MATTERS.

ESPECIALLY when you are a developing nation.

Look at President Tinubu. He was invited to the G20 summit in India. Of major world economies.

Because he is president of Africa’s biggest economy and biggest nation, with gigantic economic and industrial potential.

Do you think if you were a tiny BIAFRA, that your leader would be invited to the G20 summit to PUSH YOUR NATIONAL INTERESTS?

Was Sierra Leone or Guinea-Bissau invited to the G20?

Because THAT would be your level as individual republics after you split up Nigeria in your dreams.

Do you have any FCKING CLUE what leaders of TOGO and LIBERIA will be thinking when they see Tinubu at the G20 having one-on-one meetings with Narendra Modri, closing 14 billion dollar investment deals on his first day in India with the likes of the 100 billion dollar worth Hinduja conglomerate? Giving investment motivation speeches to a room filled with India’s richest billionaires and investors?

They are thinking “GADEMN! Wish we were as big and important as NIGERIA.”

THAT’S WHAT THEY ARE ALL THINKING, from Liberia to Ghana to Kenya to Malawi to Uganda.

While MUMUS LIKE YOU WITH ZERO COMMON SENSE are saying NIGERIA should break up and scatter!

Stop saying Nigerians hate each other.

IT IS YOU IGBOS WHO HATE NIGERIANS. Nobody else.

SO don’t project your hatred to all Nigerians, you narcissists.

So short sighted and myopic that you cannot see your amazing potential as a nation. While the rest of Africa ENVY YOUR STATUS as Africa’s leading nation.

IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA, GO. BYE BYE.

But we will NOT break up Nigeria for you or for anybody.

The countries you admire today, go and read their histories. In Russia, Stalin slaughtered over 30 million of his people in the last century. China shut its borders for 30 years, causing great hardship, just to force its people to develop indigenous technology. Thousands if not millions of opposition activists were killed by the Communist Party, to maintain that policy.

So Nigeria having problems is not a new phenomenon with nations. Our job is to find ways to surmount those difficulties and build a nation the black world can be proud of.

AND WE WILL.

First of all Nigeria isn't united at any cause we voted for a stupid president because of our love for the tribe and religion how does that make the country United at all? How is it sensible to remain one nation if we keep remaining one and start voting Idiotic presidents like Buhari because of religion and tribe?
Second of all we are not huge at economy GDP yes but other factors no
We literally don't have a strong GDP per capita our inflation rate is increasing and our dollar exchange rate is slowly becoming comparable to CFA. Also the Soviet union has already collasped so why bringing it here? Qing dynasty also collasped and china is slowly heading to a collasped state. Also how is it igbos hating other Nigerians? Do Southerners like northerners who are Nigerians? How much Muslims do you see in southsouth or the Christians chased in the north what about the igbos in the north what about the clash of igbos and Yorubas online?
Go back and study more on the topiv

mrvitalis:


You obviously don't have ambition so you won't notice the obstacles placed... The low ceiling faced by people

This is the same question people ask igbos

Colonial masters left Africa in a structure that is almost impossible to progress... We were set up to fight and kill ourselves ( there was a reason France insisted to be sole arms supplier to its colonies)

Restructure Europe like Africa and watch them kill themselves in 3 years

Every country progressing today is either structured along ethnic lines or settler nations where indigenous people have insignificant population

You can't have a country like Nigeria n work it's impossible

You're just making Africans look like idiots.

Quintessence44:


It’s called being SENSIBLE.

Nigerians have decided to remain ONE nation because it is the SENSIBLE thing to do.

Why?

Because in today’s world, SIZE MATTERS.

ESPECIALLY when you are a developing nation.

Look at President Tinubu. He was invited to the G20 summit in India. Of major world economies.

Because he is president of Nigeria, Africa’s biggest economy and biggest nation, with gigantic economic and industrial potential. A country projected to become the 3rd most populous nation on earth after India and China by 2050, meaning a magnet for massive investment by world firms in the years ahead.

Do you think if you were a tiny BIAFRA, that your leader would be invited to the G20 summit to PUSH YOUR NATIONAL INTERESTS?

Was Sierra Leone or Guinea-Bissau invited to the G20?

Because THAT would be your level as individual republics after you split up Nigeria in your dreams.

Do you have any FCKING CLUE what leaders of TOGO and LIBERIA will be thinking when they see Tinubu at the G20 having one-on-one meetings with Narendra Modri, closing 14 billion dollar investment deals on his first day in India with the likes of the 100 billion dollar worth Hinduja conglomerate? Giving investment motivation speeches to a room filled with India’s richest billionaires and investors?

They are thinking “GADEMN! Wish we were as big and important as NIGERIA.”

THAT’S WHAT THEY ARE ALL THINKING, from Liberia to Ghana to Kenya to Malawi to Uganda.

While MUMUS LIKE YOU WITH ZERO COMMON SENSE are saying NIGERIA should break up and scatter!

Stop saying Nigerians hate each other.

IT IS YOU IGBOS WHO HATE NIGERIANS. Nobody else.

SO don’t project your hatred to all Nigerians, you narcissists.

So short sighted and myopic that you cannot see your amazing potential as a nation. While the rest of Africa ENVY YOUR STATUS as Africa’s leading nation.

IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE NIGERIA, GO. BYE BYE.

But we will NOT break up Nigeria for you or for anybody.

The countries you admire today, go and read their histories. In Russia, Stalin slaughtered over 30 million of his people in the last century. China shut its borders for 30 years, causing great hardship, just to force its people to develop indigenous technology. Thousands if not millions of opposition activists were killed by the Communist Party, to maintain that policy.

So Nigeria having problems is not a new phenomenon with nations. Our job is to find ways to surmount those difficulties and build a nation the black world can be proud of.

AND WE WILL.

Well stated. In the international comity of nations, size matters a lot. If Nigeria splits, it will be less influential than it is now. Sometimes, even if you are a poor nation, by having a large population and pooling your resources, it is possible to achieve things that even advanced, developed nations can not. For example, India landing on the Moon while UK being unable to launch even a single satellite into orbit on its own. This is similar to how economies of scale works in manufacturing.

Ofcourse large population alone is not enough to achieve this. But large population is one of the things needed. It also helps to draw in foreign investment if you can pull even a fraction of your people out of poverty and give them a very minimal discretionary spending, and then you raise import tariffs on finished goods but keep them low for components, it will convince many foreign companies to invest in opening at least an assembly plant within your country, because you have a domestic market. And then you can leverage that to even export finished goods to smaller countries next to you. This is exactly what India does and Nigeria can follow this as well.

1Sharon:


You're just making Africans look like idiots.

Exactly!
Anyone that carries or professes such statements that; our lack of visible and tangible development is because of the prior, forgotten colonization is saying Africans or blacks are foolish and have no mind of their own.
Our problems are caused by us, especially those eelcting bad leaders who perpetuate the developmental lapses and drawbacks.
That is the gist.