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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by emorse(m): 12:26pm On Sep 21, 2023
happney65:
When we told them it cannot work,they were getting angry and tearing their bras on us. Now they don return am again

As it is nonesense in 2012,so is the same in 2023. The government cannot be pushing their ineptitude to the people.

But No,very enlightened and educated people will be supporting nonesense.

Shey una don see it's all a ruse now

Nonesense and Tinubu
You see these thing that I highlighted ehn, I've said it to the point that I ran out of words. We're in it anyway, make every man find him own personal solution.

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by nairalanda1(m): 12:27pm On Sep 21, 2023
baralatie:
because
1.crude oil is $95 per barrel
2.Nnpcl is alleged to have sold part of it's crude for loan(reduced earnings)
3.No local producing refinery
4.exchangr rate of dollar to naira is 1:#900

Could have been kept in check but like someone said the fg has to solve economic problems to avoid this kind of things.

Now it has coughed #169 billion that would have been used for other development projects.it will now have to go and borrow(hopefully not)

Laffs in Chinese and IMF and world bank at the bolded.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Flame333: 12:28pm On Sep 21, 2023
happney65:
When we told them it cannot work,they were getting angry and tearing their bras on us. Now they don return am again

As it is nonesense in 2012,so is the same in 2023. The government cannot be pushing their ineptitude to the people.

But No,very enlightened and educated people will be supporting nonesense.

Shey una don see it's all a ruse now

Nonesense and Tinubu


Subsidy came back with pain because fuel still sell for 600 and all he is doing is just paying the little difference between the devalued naira and the dollar.. Marketers said the said the price would increase to 700 and more because dollar is now over 900 but the president doesn't want that to happen because people could just start protest..

The most useless policy of this government is to float the naira which is yet to make any impact on the economy..

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by baralatie(m): 12:29pm On Sep 21, 2023
nairalanda1:


Laffs in Chinese and IMF and world bank at the bolded.
Well
If the fg can pull it off.it might not need to borrow
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by mrvitalis(m): 12:30pm On Sep 21, 2023
nairalanda1:


Very true.

Modular refineries HAVE TO MAKE A PROFIT. So, unless NNPC agrees to sell crude to them at knock down price...which would be riddiculous, or they do as illegal refineries do and steal crude and refine it....fuel from there would still be expensive.
Lol the only solution is stabilizing the naira within 5 years the economy adjust

Like obi said in economics exchange rate is not a big problem stability of a currency is

You saw under Buhari when naira was 720 to 750 for a few years the economy stabilized a bit

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Sonofgod1990(m): 12:30pm On Sep 21, 2023
nigeria is gone,,
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by baralatie(m): 12:31pm On Sep 21, 2023
Flame333:



Subsidy came back with pain because fuel still sell for 600 and all he is doing is just paying the little difference between the devalued naira and the dollar.. Marketers said the said the price would increase to 700 and more because dollar is now over 900 but the president doesn't want that to happen because people could just start protest..

The most useless policy of this government is to float the naira which is yet to make any impact on the economy..
With the devaluation of the naira.it meant the fg earns more naira to ots purse
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Maxxim: 12:31pm On Sep 21, 2023
Nigerians just got played
they paid for subsidy but we still buying fuel at hiked price
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by nairalanda1(m): 12:32pm On Sep 21, 2023
baralatie:

Well
If the fg can pull it off.it might not need to borrow

Based on past preccedent...I strongly doubt.

Oil prices are increasing, and with them PMS cost of production. And as experience teaches us, and history, once subsidy comes back, e go hard remove am. Politicans priority in life is to get elected, not to leave behind good legacies...because good legacies may involve some hardship....

Buhari removed subsidy in 2015, and it worked...until oil prices rose again. Back came the subsidy, and the cost increased with each increase in oil price.

I see this as instant replay. And we have been doing this many times before 2015 self.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by nairalanda1(m): 12:34pm On Sep 21, 2023
mrvitalis:

Lol the only solution is stabilizing the naira within 5 years the economy adjust

Like obi said in economics exchange rate is not a big problem stability of a currency is

You saw under Buhari when naira was 720 to 750 for a few years the economy stabilized a bit

Naira would not be stable unless we are making more dollars in my (flawed) opinion...and bringing in more forex than we export.

Make we see what this new government does. Though knowing politicans, their job is to get elected again. And if keeping terrible economic policies gets them voted, why not.?
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Henry22(m): 12:35pm On Sep 21, 2023
Useless government with useless supporters grin grin cheesy
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Kaiser20: 12:36pm On Sep 21, 2023
Dr.Abati, Rufai Oseni, and all Arise TV crews are vindicated.
They will be dancing to Azonto now.
Rufai was criticized by that useless boy Reno Omokri

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by rickyrex(m): 12:38pm On Sep 21, 2023
TemplarLandry:
Another fake news.
open your eyes before hunger kill you. loyalty to party or politician no dey pay. They will scam you for real and you will still be shouting fake news

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by hegelian: 12:38pm On Sep 21, 2023
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The below quote clearly defines these retards:
“Many are destined to reason wrongly, others not to reason at all and some to persecute those who do reason" - Voltaire

Those people you quoted are just political jobbers.. They are just doing their work to survive not because they love tinubu or Nigeria.. You will noticed that they all hardly post again.. Wait for another round of election and they will be back with their vituperations.. It's just sad that most innocent nairalander take them for real and get derailed by the.. They don't care

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Mayeldah(m): 12:40pm On Sep 21, 2023
Subsidy is gone......bla bla bla

Balablu don backtrack, e think say e easy?

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by baralatie(m): 12:43pm On Sep 21, 2023
nairalanda1:


Based on past preccedent...I strongly doubt.

Oil prices are increasing, and with them PMS cost of production. And as experience teaches us, and history, once subsidy comes back, e go hard remove am. Politicans priority in life is to get elected, not to leave behind good legacies...because good legacies may involve some hardship....

Buhari removed subsidy in 2015, and it worked...until oil prices rose again. Back came the subsidy, and the cost increased with each increase in oil price.

I see this as instant replay. And we have been doing this many times before 2015 self.
Well
It is not in tinubus favour because of the volume of debts buhari literally incurred/transferred into the fg accts.
The best solution for tinubu inorder not to run into a fg accts crisis is to avoid
Subsidy and borrowing.
The first has brought about good results for him in that he is able to float his govt.
The challenge he is facing the maintenance of a sustainable dollar exchange regime.in this case he is dealing with deliberate forces that want to push the naira .whilst a downward meant more money for the fg.iit is tricky because the fg is forced to pay for imports of refined petroleum products to private individuals.whilst the nnpcl claims to be the major importer.
So the fg can solve it' problems economically
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by LordAdam16: 12:44pm On Sep 21, 2023
stanluiz:
So why did he removed the first subsidy in the first place when fuel was still at the price of 195 ?

It is a combination of reasons.

The bottom line though is that he naively expected the FX rate to fall at first to its current rate, then strengthen over time to 600-650.
If that had happened, we'd be having a different conversation.
Obviously that did not happen, so he bears full responsibility for the error.

-Lord

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Rilwayne001: 12:44pm On Sep 21, 2023
This one sef done dey fall my hand.

After all the noise.

Shame that he is going back to his vomit.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by nairalanda1(m): 12:45pm On Sep 21, 2023
baralatie:

Well
It is not in tinubus favour because of the volume of debts buhari literally incurred/transferred into the fg accts.
The best solution for tinubu inorder not to run into a fg accts crisis is to avoid
Subsidy and borrowing.
The first has brought about good results for him in that he is able to float his govt.
The challenge he is facing the maintenance of a sustainable dollar exchange regime.in this case he is dealing with deliberate forces that want to push the naira .whilst a downward meant more money for the fg.iit is tricky because the fg is forced to pay for imports of refined petroleum products to private individuals.whilst the nnpcl claims to be the major importer.
So the fg can solve it' problems economically

By bringing back subsidy, he is essentially tilting towards borrowing.

The thing is, as long as crude oil prices rise, so also would the cost of subsidy...because government can do nuthin about the production cost of fuel.

That means money would be taken from other sectors of the budget, meaning deficit...meaning...the deficit must be filled with loans.

Subsidy should not have come back.
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by BIZNess123(m): 12:49pm On Sep 21, 2023
lexy2014:


I thought Tinubu is a strategist with a master plan?

Why is he making blunders left right centre?

That's the strategy
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by lexy2014: 12:51pm On Sep 21, 2023
BIZNess123:


That's the strategy

you mean the strategy is to be making blunders left right centre?
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Eriokanmi: 12:51pm On Sep 21, 2023
EmirofAfonjaz:
BASTARDS....after all the noise...and propaganda cool
I've always said this. Any information coming out of the apc camp and tagged rumour is actually the truth. I remember when this information of subsidy return was once announced. All their supporters said it was fake news. Now, we know what it is. When buhari came in 2015, he said he's not paying subsidy but would increase pump price., begging Nigerians. Later on, they told us they were paying something but not subsidy per se. Osinbajo said this. When they couldn't hide their lies anymore, after increasing pump price twice, they confessed they're paying subsidy. Apc is a scam, same as those coveting them up or supporting them

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by baralatie(m): 12:56pm On Sep 21, 2023
nairalanda1:


By bringing back subsidy, he is essentially tilting towards borrowing.

The thing is, as long as crude oil prices rise, so also would the cost of subsidy...because government can do nuthin about the production cost of fuel.

That means money would be taken from other sectors of the budget, meaning deficit...meaning...the deficit must be filled with loans.

Subsidy should not have come back.
It is true that subsidy should not have come back.
One would have expected the govt to have moved from importation of refined products where it has to pay in dollars to local products whereby it will be paying in naira.
This has yet to occur to the current set up of how the nnpcl does business.
Outside that problem of the nnpcl solely importing fuel in dollars
The fg is left with using it's earned dollars to pay for the imports.
Now the same nnpcl is the one supplying the fg with the dollars.
But the nnpcl gives out contracts to private individuals/companies to import the fuel.
So
Fg has a problem it wants to solve which is avoid subsidy(it does not produce due to the nnpcl)
It wants to get more earnings(the nnpcl says)
It wants a sustainable dollar regime(cbn)

The fg does not need to continue subsidy is possible.it only need to fix it's economic issues
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Xpol: 1:01pm On Sep 21, 2023
All these money self no reach to build standard and functioning refineries ni
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Eriokanmi: 1:04pm On Sep 21, 2023
TemplarLandry:
Another fake news.
Oga oo. Aren't you tired of being deceived? You guys tagged the information fake news a few weeks ago when the information first leaked out. Nigeria won't move forward if you keep defending this party's lies.

I remember in 2015, buhari said subsidy was a scam and he'd never pay it. Later, he begged Nigerians to be patient as things would soon improve so, we should allow him increase pump price as he's not paying subsidy.

Later, he increased it again and people began to react. They now said they were paying something but not subsidy per se. You should stop defending this madness cos you'd not be spared in the consequences of their lies.

When some of us condemned the sudden and utter removal of the subsidy when Tinubu came, you guys said it was the right move and now, we're suffering the consequences. Meanwhile Angola, another oil rich nation only did partial removal but before they did, they had provided palliatives like gej did years back. You know what the dollar is saying now

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Papayaayasager(m): 1:04pm On Sep 21, 2023
Imao

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Timfreds(m): 1:05pm On Sep 21, 2023
Naturally this is what the government should do. Because if the pump price go up beyond what it is now, it will be hell for the masses.
Tinubu did the right thing.

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by TemplarLandry: 1:06pm On Sep 21, 2023
My brother, may God help us.
Eriokanmi:
Oga oo. Aren't you tired of being deceived? You guys tagged the information fake news a few weeks ago when the information first leaked out. Nigeria won't move forward if you keep defending this party's lies.

I remember in 2015, buhari said subsidy was a scam and he'd never pay it. Later, he begged Nigerians to be patient as things would soon improve so, we should allow him increase pump price as he's not paying subsidy.

Later, he increased it again and people began to react. They now said they were paying something but not subsidy per se. You should stop defending this madness cos you'd not be spared in the consequences of their lies.

When some of us condemned the sudden and utter removal of the subsidy when Tinubu came, you guys said it was the right move and now, we're suffering the consequences. Meanwhile Angola, another oil rich nation only did partial removal but before they did, they had provided palliatives like gej did years back. You know hat the dollar is saying now

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Kukutente23: 1:17pm On Sep 21, 2023
grandstar:
The CBN's refusal to fight inflation is partially what brought back the subsidy

By refusing to increase interest rates to stem worrying double digit inflation, it led to the slide of the Naira.

An interest rate spike induced recession that brings down inflation down at this point is a benign trade off

The poor perceives reduced prices as a benign. A stronger Naira would also reduce the level of the subsidy

The government might eventually allow the price of petrol to rise.

It is time government fully deregulates the price.
Was it not the same subsidy removal and "floating" of exchange rate that spiked inflation?
Why do you enjoy making funny excuses for govt?
You can't have it all. You can't devalue your currency and still expect inflation to be tamed

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by BIZNess123(m): 1:18pm On Sep 21, 2023
lexy2014:


you mean the strategy is to be making blunders left right centre?

There's no success without failures....
Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Nobody: 1:20pm On Sep 21, 2023
TemplarLandry:
My brother, may God help us.

Of course. The next line of action is to be calling God in their foolishness. God no get una time

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Re: 'Subsidy Back As FG Pays ₦169.4 Billion In August' - Daily Trust by Kukutente23: 1:21pm On Sep 21, 2023
Rayban25:


you forgot templarlandry

Omoawoke2
He forgot parachoko
The halfwit who kept saying absolute majority of Nigerians have chosen to suffer.
Baba weyrey grin grin

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