Keep talking rubbish. Politicians steal money daily that should be used to better the country's healthcare and you here making noise. Same politicians will run to Us and UK to treat headache. This is why the gap between the poor and rich is quite high. Blame your politicians who only know how to steal.

tunjijones:


Pay well? Doctors are amongst the highest paid civil servant in Nigeria. When as a coper we were paid 3k monthly by the state, doctor were paid 80k.

Medical education in our universities are almost free as compared to the actual cost of the education.

Some private universities in Nigeria pay as high as 4m per year for medical education.

India is far ahead of Nigeria in all departments of life.

motymop:


Know wetin..quality it training in india

Few Nigerians go on medical tourism to india because it is cheap not neccesarily quality.

There is no reason debating about what the world knows. Talk about IT and Medicine, Indians have always been a force to reckon with!

The US H1B lottery is for a reason, and Indians are beneficiaries

Harnny:
bros...they have exceptional guys. So do we. They have quacks ... so do we.

Indians are far off! Those guys are guru’s

Is it by mistake that they dominating the IT industry?

Talk about IT experts in the world, they are NUMBER ONE. Even in medicine, they are still seen as a force. Where does Nigeria stand in all these rankings?

AllenSpencer:
Even in IT, Indians are prioritized, and truth be told, those guys know it!

Not really, trained 4 indians in last 3years in my IT department here. 2 were smart to catch up quite easily, 1 was so dumb and the other clueless like Buhari

Raskimonojendor:
I am 100% sure that Canada does not give a fak about The World Federation for Medical Education (WFME).

You will still be put through the huddle below:

Does it mean Indians won't have to sir for the USMLE any longer?

stepo707:

Not really, trained 4 indians in last 3years in my IT department here. 2 were smart to catch up quite easily, 1 was so dumb and the other clueless like Buhari

It’s normal to have dull ones. Their population is huge and they also have a large count of illiterates, and that still doesn’t still stop them from being the best.

The ones who know it, know it. In fact, any company into IT cannot succeed without that nationality.

dozymars:
Op, I think your headline is misleading.

"It Allows them to pursue postgraduate training" should be the point here

Would they still need to sit for the USMLE, or they can skip that?

Raskimonojendor:
I am 100% sure that Canada does not give a fak about The World Federation for Medical Education (WFME).

You will still be put through the huddle below:

please if you don't mind I would like you to give me a run down of processes for a foreign doctor to practice in canada

HBB1:



You are daft!

How many Nigerians do I know that have passed USMLE?

🤣

1.
I personally know at least 10, who are working in the US.

...and they schooled in Nigeria.



2.
Passing USMLE does not mean you will match.
This is another process altogether.

3.
The Carribean Schools train their students as a conduit into the American system.

So it is not about someone being smarter than others.

I know Nigerians who went to take up assistant lecturer roles in Grenada, and they were all expected had to write USMLE.

4.

There was a year in OAU, when chemical pathology exam questions were lifted from USMLE exams...

Those boys still passed!

5.

Is passing USMLE the yardstick for medical competence?

So British, or German Drs are not competent because they did not write USMLE.

6.
Can you see that your brain is paining you?

Emotions over facts. Your daftness is deeper than Atlantic Ocean.
This post is about US Medical Examination for foreign-trained doctors… and their common standard is USMLE…your emotional brain cells always outwork your logical brain cells. You need a lot of work in that dept.

Your anecdotal experience, backed by emotions, cannot negate that USMLE pass rate for Naija-trained doctors is very low. Most Naija trained doctors are going to fail the exam at their 1st attempt.

Lifting chemistry pathology from OAU is another tales by moonlight story like Naija team beating India 100-0. Maybe it was one of your lazy lecturers who copied US medical exam questions.

Per British Medical Exams Plab. How many Naija fresh medical drs can pass it at one attempt? Not many.
Ghana, S/Africa, Grenada have higher pass rate than Naija.

Fact is, Naija medicine is good for Naija, but cannot compete with US and Carribean medical education systems… without relearning, retraining and accountability mindset.

InvertedHammer:
/
An average US medical doctor carries about $300k in student loans on graduation. You come from another country with zero debts and don't expect there will be gatekeeping beyond certificates? Bad belle dey.

You need retraining too to shed the toga of incompetence and dearth of professionalism programmed in Nigerian brains. The transition from demigod to service delivery is a Herculean task for many Nigerian doctors. Malpractice lawsuits are waiting and someone has to pay premiums. " Let God judge" is not part of the curricula.

/

LOL.....this is funny as hell.

I wish they knew.

Those lawsuits dey flog back tear.

BigIyanga:

Emotions over facts. Your daftness is deeper than Atlantic Ocean.
This post is about US Medical Examination for foreign-trained doctors… and their common standard is USMLE…your emotional brain cells always outwork your logical brain cells. You need a lot of work in that dept.

Your anecdotal experience, backed by emotions, cannot negate that USMLE pass rate for Naija-trained doctors is very low. Most Naija trained doctors are going to fail the exam at their 1st attempt.

Lifting chemistry pathology from OAU is another tales by moonlight story like Naija team beating India 100-0. Maybe it was one of your lazy lecturers who copied US medical exam questions.

Per British Medical Exams Plab. How many Naija fresh medical drs can pass it at one attempt? Not many.
Ghana, S/Africa, Grenada have higher pass rate than Naija.

Fact is, Naija medicine is good for Naija, but cannot compete with US and Carribean medical education systems… without relearning, retraining and accountability mindset.

You are so daft!!!!

Why are there about 10k Nigerian Drs in the UK?
Why are there abiut 5k in the US?

...and they couldn't pass PLAB or USMLE?

Does US allow you to pass and fail USMLE?
Will you match if you have failed?

🤣
Dumbo!

Nobody cursed you.
If you are mediocre, then you chose it.

You were the one that brought up the dumbest analogy about USMLE up, so deal with it.

...and writing foreign exams is about getting licensing to practice somewhere, it does not mean you go back to school?

British Drs write USMLE to practise in the US, Russian trained Drs will write MDCN exams too.
Canadian Drs will write PLAB to practise in the UK.

You are so daft!


Me giving you tales by moonlight?
Dumbo!

India is kilometres not miles ahead of Nigeria in terms of health, technology and education.... So it's not surprising

HBB1:



You are so daft!!!!

Why are there about 10k Nigerian Drs in the UK?
Why are there abiut 5k in the US?

...and they couldn't pass PLAB or USMLE?

Does US allow you to pass and fail USMLE?
Will you match if you have failed?

🤣
Dumbo!

Nobody cursed you.
If you are mediocre, then you chose it.

You were the one that brought up the dumbest analogy about USMLE up, so deal with it.

...and writing foreign exams is about getting licensing to practice somewhere, it does not mean you go back to school?

British Drs write USMLE to practise in the US, Russian trained Drs will write MDCN exams too.
Canadian Drs will write PLAB to practise in the UK.

You are so daft!


Me giving you tales by moonlight?
Dumbo!

You’re the daftest person with calcified encephalon
Here are pass rate results.
Ghana, S/Africa, Grenada have higher pass rate. Everybody is not logically challenged as you.

AllenSpencer:


There is no reason debating about what the world knows. Talk about IT and Medicine, Indians have always been a force to reckon with!

The US H1B lottery is for a reason, and Indians are beneficiaries

Do not use irrelevant issues. To validate fake news

Are Indians beneficiaries beneficiaries of any Visa in the US that Nigerians are not.

The Nigerians have also always been a force to reckon with in Medicine so stop misleading yourself. Even more than Indians when you adjust for population
It has never been a quality issue rather a quantity one. Their population is over 1 billion
Let us leave out IT because this thread is not about that

I can confidently tell you the story is fake news
All foreign medical graduates must take the USMLE

There is no difference for Indian doctors or Nigerian doctors

Even if you come from the UK it is the same thing so the story is untrue

All you need to do to investigate and story is to go its ultimate source.

What is the WFME who is its current President.

Does it have the authority to do What this story is claiming.

The simple answer is that IT DOES NOT
That is a categorical lie

The United States like every other country decides which foreign doctors to admit there is no international body that does this for ANY COUNTRY

THE STORY IS A LIE

Nigerian medical graduates are eligible for post graduate training in The US
It has been so for decades so why this fake story??

jaephoenix:

What do you see in the medical sector that is making you so enthusiastic?
That sector is fvcked

I see nothing yet but soon everything will change!

BigIyanga:

You haven't said anything meaningful. It looks like you failed step1?
How many Naija-trained doctors do you know … who passed their USMLE 1 straight from Naija?? None. Your feelings are not facts.

UWI, the largest govt-owned university system in the carribean, produces better qualified doctors than Naija. Their USMLE1 pass rate is at par with Private Unis affiliated with US schools and financiers.

This is ignorance. The pass score for USMLE Step 1 isn’t difficult. Almost everyone I know passed the exam even when they were using the 60% score. You’ll need references from someone in the US to train as part of the criteria’s they need that’s why most Nigeria usually go for clinical attachment to make the connection.
I personally know over 10 Nigerian Dr that got matched for training last year alone. Almost everyone I know ‘passed’ USMLE Step 1 in one sitting.
You definitely know nothing about the exam
Most of you dint read the article but jumped at the headline.
India paid the money for certification which ran into million of dollars to Canada. Entry into practice in Canada is very difficult and one need to pay almost
$10,000 each per school I think to be able to apply. India as a country paid against next year self. At least read the attached article before bashing your country

BigIyanga:

You’re the daftest person with calcified encephalon
Here are pass rate results.
Ghana, S/Africa, Grenada have higher pass rate. Everybody is not logically challenged as you.

But Nigeria has a higher pass rate than the Indians that this article is even about.
Carribean schools get admitted more into US training because they run the same curriculum. They’ve even been shouting that they shouldn’t have to go through the USMLE route as an IMG.
How many Grenada students wrote that exam compared to Nigeria or India.
Your analysis is flawed.
You’ll see a thousand Nigerians before you’ll see one Grenada. Your data up there proves it unless you’ve a problem with Data interpretation. 85 grenadas to over a thousand Nigerians and you’re still saying Nigerians don’t know what they’re doing.
Go to any health facility all over the world and remove Indians and Pakistanis…you’re probably coming up with Nigeria as third. Both countries have higher population figure than nigeria and that explains it

BigIyanga:

You’re the daftest person with calcified encephalon
Here are pass rate results.
Ghana, S/Africa, Grenada have higher pass rate. Everybody is not logically challenged as you.

Just had to double check your figures again.
You’re comparing an exam that over 2800 Nigerians passed to just 85 Grenadians and you call Nigerian doctors quack?
The Indians are ‘better’ because they’re over a billion in their country so you expect flashes of genius with that population figure and more Indians in most places.
Most health facilities in the US, UK, Australia and almost everywhere are predominantly Indian populated. Nigeria always ranks high up there too.
Sit this one out. Seems you’re not even in the field because you’ll know this. Data’s are better interpreted with knowledge of the background not just printing things online and interpreting in a straight line

Gajagojo:


Do not use irrelevant issues. To validate fake news

Are Indians beneficiaries beneficiaries of any Visa in the US that Nigerians are not.

The Nigerians have also always been a force to reckon with in Medicine so stop misleading yourself. Even more than Indians when you adjust for population
It has never been a quality issue rather a quantity one. Their population is over 1 billion
Let us leave out IT because this thread is not about that

I can confidently tell you the story is fake news
All foreign medical graduates must take the USMLE

There is no difference for Indian doctors or Nigerian doctors

Even if you come from the UK it is the same thing so the story is untrue

All you need to do to investigate and story is to go its ultimate source.

What is the WFME who is its current President.

Does it have the authority to do What this story is claiming.

The simple answer is that IT DOES NOT
That is a categorical lie

The United States like every other country decides which foreign doctors to admit there is no international body that does this for ANY COUNTRY

THE STORY IS A LIE

Nigerian medical graduates are eligible for post graduate training in The US
It has been so for decades so why this fake story??

It’s not even fake news. It’s just nonsense interpreted with biased eyes for most people.
Canada needs your school accredited with over $10,000 to be able to apply directly for training. India paid for almost all the schools in India starting from next year. No part of the article talked about professionalism or being better. Just that a country has paid that huge amount and someone here is talking about Indians being better.
When Nigerian doctors are almost everywhere flourishing and leading.

AllenSpencer:


Indians are far off! Those guys are guru’s

Is it by mistake that they dominating the IT industry?

Talk about IT experts in the world, they are NUMBER ONE. Even in medicine, they are still seen as a force. Where does Nigeria stand in all these rankings?

India doesn’t have the best IT systems in the world. They don’t have the best IT specialist in the world. The only thing they have is the highest number of IT experts and that is understandable.
In the UK. Nigeria comes third in health professionals working the health sector after India and Pakistan.
Nigerians are not pushover in the IT sector.
Nigerians are far better than this narrative you’re pushing. They’re excelling well all over the world and breaking almost all barriers.
You need to move around more and stop glorifying nonsense.
How many US specialist do you see outside the US? Because the country has what it takes. India has ‘half’ its professional population outside India looking for better jobs and better practice settings.

AllenSpencer:
Even in IT, Indians are prioritized, and truth be told, those guys know it!

As someone who has worked with few indians i wouldn't totally agree, most i have encountered are very good in theoretical aspects but suck in practical aspects. They tend to over engineer alot!

saysoo:
Nigerian medical Doctors are syringe and drugs. Indian Doctors are scientist and Inventors.

Crap. They are not. The West generally overlook misdeeds by Indians and then help to creat a positive but false world view of Indians in the bid to counter China and the Chinese. Some misdeeds by Indians is forgery and misleading. For example, an Indian who works as a a self appointed herbalist in India might apply to UK as a Doctor. Since the UK don't scrutinize them as much as they would a Nigerian, they slip through the system and become GP in London.

infolekan:



It’s not even fake news. It’s just nonsense interpreted with biased eyes for most people.
Canada needs your school accredited with over $10,000 to be able to apply directly for training. India paid for almost all the schools in India starting from next year. No part of the article talked about professionalism or being better. Just that a country has paid that huge amount and someone here is talking about Indians being better.
When Nigerian doctors are almost everywhere flourishing and leading.

The problem now is the Nigerian government won't pay, they'll see this as a way to keep doctors in Nigeria by force rather than improve working conditions

motymop:


You mean they know it by nepotism and favoritism.

They keep employing themselves even if they dont know the job...majority of Indians you see in tech in America isnt because they know but because of nepotism.

Indeed. They 're not in any of these positions by merit over nepotism and politics.

In this regard, African Americans should be ashamed that they're not using thire influence to place Nigerian doctors ahead of Indian doctors in the line of those applying to enter America. Instead, they're sulking at the little praise afforded Nigerians as though it is an affront on them rather than a benefit to them. They fail in seeing the larger picture.That crab mentality!



If Africa Americans don't want to use thire position in the system to favour Nigerians over Indians just as Whites and Indians use thire position to prioritise Indians, then they should not interfere if Nigerian Americans in the system attempt to favour Nigerians. Don't help the system label Nigerians as corrupt, criminals or some other characterisation if they try to work the system just as other races do and get away with doing

AllenSpencer:


There is no reason debating about what the world knows. Talk about IT and Medicine, Indians have always been a force to reckon with!

The US H1B lottery is for a reason, and Indians are beneficiaries

Indians are not a force to reckon in IT or medicine, in medicine, they just make cheap versions of popular drugs, rebrand it and export them, infact their medical facilities arent top notch but cheap..cheap doesn't mean quality, cheap means affordable.

With regards to IT, they are also not there yet, they are just cheap and very incompetent.

The main reason why indians get US H1B is because indian firms are gaming the system, even the indian times wrote about it and also there was a call by Congressman Darrell Issa to close the loopholes.

H1B visa isnt merit based but lottery based, it is a non immigrant visa that is valid for 6 years and about 74.5% of applicants of H1B visas are indians(421,276) compared to Nigeria(924) (0.2%)

About 75 per cent of US H1B programme are going to Indian-owner

The system is setup by indians to benefit other indians, isnt that nepotism and favoritism at its finest, it has nothing to do with skills but more about gaining unfair advantage.

What they do is they gain unfair advantage in the H-1B lottery process by working together with unscrupulous companies and consultancies and then multiple registrations are submitted on behalf of the same beneficiary. In most cases, many applicants are given visas without jobs and then are allowed to immigrate to the US since they are sponsored by indian owned consultancy companies.

Once an indian found a tech company in the United states, they employ fellow indians, files for H1B Visas and bring lot of Indians for cheap, in most cases, they also help in applying for green card after the expiration of their visas

FBIBOT:
India is kilometres not miles ahead of Nigeria in terms of health, technology and education.... So it's not surprising

Are you aware Miles are more than kilometers

😂 na Tinubu the clueless Emilokan drug baron Caused it oooo.

infolekan:


Just had to double check your figures again.
You’re comparing an exam that over 2800 Nigerians passed to just 85 Grenadians and you call Nigerian doctors quack?
The Indians are ‘better’ because they’re over a billion in their country so you expect flashes of genius with that population figure and more Indians in most places.
Most health facilities in the US, UK, Australia and almost everywhere are predominantly Indian populated. Nigeria always ranks high up there too.
Sit this one out. Seems you’re not even in the field because you’ll know this. Data’s are better interpreted with knowledge of the background not just printing things online and interpreting in a straight line

You still have problem reading pass rate?? So by your illogical argument, Kano has higher JAMB/WAEC pass rate than Ekiti because Kano produces more secondary school students??

infolekan:


This is ignorance. The pass score for USMLE Step 1 isn’t difficult. Almost everyone I know passed the exam even when they were using the 60% score. You’ll need references from someone in the US to train as part of the criteria’s they need that’s why most Nigeria usually go for clinical attachment to make the connection.
I personally know over 10 Nigerian Dr that got matched for training last year alone. Almost everyone I know ‘passed’ USMLE Step 1 in one sitting.
You definitely know nothing about the exam
Most of you dint read the article but jumped at the headline.
India paid the money for certification which ran into million of dollars to Canada. Entry into practice in Canada is very difficult and one need to pay almost
$10,000 each per school I think to be able to apply. India as a country paid against next year self. At least read the attached article before bashing your country

Your anecdotal experience is immaterial. The pass rate for Naija-trained doctors in Naija is low. Not your Naija friends who may have moved to the US; did MPH related programs for 2yrs… took USMLE 1 and passed.
Your feelings are not facts.

AllenSpencer:


Indians are far off! Those guys are guru’s

Is it by mistake that they dominating the IT industry?

Talk about IT experts in the world, they are NUMBER ONE. Even in medicine, they are still seen as a force. Where does Nigeria stand in all these rankings?

It is unfortunate that you guys have been programmed to see less of yourselves. I have worked in Indian dominated companies and white dominated companies and I can tell you for free that most Indians just do is eye service. I have led Indians who are good as my team members and I have been led by Indians who are good. The truth is they cover a lot for each other while we only care about our own shines. Until we work to change the narratives. No matter how good we are. It will never show.