namfav:

my suggestion is you have to curb teenage pregnancies if you want to stop that, once a person starts having children young they dont stop soon, teen pregnancies is prevalent in nigeria, i am sure that all our parents started having kids before 23

our population growth has nothing to do with polygamy, if you look the north and the south both regions have families that are big in most households

Ileke-IdI:

Nothing is worst than underaged marriage. Atleast most of these teenage sex is consensual.

Nothing worst than having your freedom stripped away from you in such a young age.

namfav:

freedom is subjective, what is freedom to some is not to others, i cannot say the same about dignity or morality, people do the bad things even for the hell of it

Ileke-IdI:

What is dignifying or morally "right" in underaged marriage?
How then is freedom defined in your society?

namfav:

school children Being Intimate know it is wrong to do so but they can also argue that they dont have the freedom to do what they want
marriage, irrespective of the age involved, deserves respect, honour and understanding between those involved, that is dignity and as for morality, marriage has been important to everyone, there is nothing wrong (morally) with marriage (if it is forced then it is wrong), when you think you can handle marriage then marriage has no age, it is a mutual thing, people are not silly what is important is the law, if it is legal age in certain law (to us we call fiqh) then each society has its own understandings

Ileke-IdI:

There is marriage and then there is marriage. Give those children the opportunity to choose who they want to marry. It should not be a "privilege", it should be based on individual rights.

Teenage intimacy is not legalized, it can be changed with the right social movement. Underaged marriage is legalized within a CERTAIN society, justified within  religious and cultural shackles. That is worse than teenage intimacy, which is at most times consensual, within individual rights.

Being sold on a platter to the richest grandpapa defies dignity, honor, and respect. A 13 years old knows or an underage does not know what is right or what is wrong if she does not understand what to expect in marriage, she only understand that her religion and culture expects her to accept forceful marriage. There is no true understanding.

namfav:

do you think that teenage marriages, which by the way are becoming less and less, is worse than underaged students sleeping around? or students at our big universities being mistresses thes days?

Ileke-IdI:

Really? Is that so? Teenage marriages are becoming less and less? Care to show me a statistical evidence?
Anything forceful is second to none. Let's wat till it ends, then we can compare it to teenage pregnancies.
A country with no value in one aspect, will jeopardize the other aspects' aspects.
Let's first make teenage marriage unlawful, then we can build up value for our teenage children.

obo_man:

How can we reduce population growth? ,    it's simple, we just have to empower women in our society.

1, Every girl has to be at least educated to post-secondary school level. ( Should apply to both sexes)

2. The legal age for marriage should be 18 throughout the federation ( under-age marriage in the north and other parts of the country should be stopped)

2, Women who are willing to set up any form of business should find it easier to obtain loans. Esp women in rural areas that are willing to engage in small or medium scale business. ( according to research, women are good at paying back loans when compared to men).

3, All forms of contraception should be free ( or heavily subsidized). The knowledge or know-how of these contraceptives should be taught in schools ( SSS class and in colleges, polytechnics and University). Sex education won't make our kids promiscuous but will rather empower them with options and choices. ( If we can be taught reproductive system in biology class, why can't we go a step further with sex education?)

One reason my mum, and her sisters had fewer kids is because they worked all their reproductive lives and are still working. The moment we empower our women ( make them less dependable on men), our population growth will slow down.   

Come to think of it, Would a rich, educated woman want to be a second wife to a man?

namfav:

i dont have the statistics, but be asured that it is becoming less and less these days
so you are just against the forced aspects, what if it is not forced?

Guardian:

Solution is simple.

Introduce Tax Per extra Child.

I propose the following amendment to the constitution.

A citizen of Nigeria shall have the right to bear and have two children only.

A male or Female citizen who has two children but desires an extra child/children may apply for the permission to have an extra child/children. Where proper application has been made and granted he/she can proceed to procreate and bear more than two children allowed by law.

With the exclusion of two children granted by Law any additional child will require either/both parent to pay 20% annual Tax fee on the income of both parent.

Guardian:

Solution is simple.

Introduce Tax Per extra Child.

I propose the following amendment to the constitution.

A citizen of Nigeria shall have the right to bear and have two children only.

A male or Female citizen who has two children but desires an extra child/children may apply for the permission to have an extra child/children. Where proper application has been made and granted he/she can proceed to procreate and bear more than two children allowed by law.

With the exclusion of two children granted by Law any additional child will require either/both parent to pay 20% annual Tax fee on the income of both parent.

Fhemmmy:

So you mean it is better to have one man one wife, but the one wife could have as many child as they want?

Causes of Increase in Population:

The main factors which have led to the great increase in population are as follows:

(1) Drop in death rate. Due to advances in medical science, the death rate has sharply come down from 28 per thousand population in 1951 to 7.1 per thousand population in 2006-07.


(2) Low standard of living. It is an established fact that people with low income have more children. The poor persons are not afraid of a further fall in their standard of living as a result of large number of children.


(3) Early marriages. In Pakistan, the marriage take place usually between 15 to 22 years of age. The span for reproductively is longer.


(4) Tropical climate. The warm climate where puberty is attained at an early age.


(5) Belief that God is Raziq. Muslim have a firm belief that God gives food to everyone even to an ant living in a stone. So why reduce the size of family?


(6) Source of power. Large family is regarded a power to influence people and subdue persons around them.


(7) illiteracy. Due to lack of education people are not aware of the economic distress caused by high birth rate.


(8 ) Joint family system. The joint family system though on the decline is also a cause for rapid bringing forth of children.


(9) Existence of polygamy. The existence of polygamy also contribute to the increase in population.


(10) Resistance to population control drive. The population control drive has not been pursed by the Government of Pakistan in right manner due to resistance on ethical grounds.


(11) The influx of refugees. The influx of refugees from India, Afghanistan, is continuing unabated in Pakistan. Pakistan is now a refugee paradise.


(12) Universality of marriage. All men and woman of marriageable age enter into wedlock. as such the birth rate is higher in Pakistan.

Contention 1: Polygamy allows for more rapid reproduction.
A female can only produce offspring once per nine months; but a male can fertilize multiple women within the same day. If a man has multiple wives, this rapid reproduction can be efficiently utilized to increase the vitality of the species as a whole.

Polygyny have been suspected to play a key role on fertility very early by demographers . . . .

. . . .a womans fertility can be different within a polygamic household because of competition or substitution between spouses. Second, polygamy
can affect also fertility by modifying the social norms on the size of families. It can therefore, by an external effect, increase directly the fertility of non-polygamous households as
well.

Indeed, women in a polygamous family may compete in the number of children they have because
it may raise their social status or in order to increase their share on inheritance. Also, if
polygamy increase the marriage length for women, it may increase their fertility as their
exposition to the pregnancy risk is increased. However, as men with many wives are less
present for each wife, it may decrease pregnancy risk exposition. So the result maybe
ambiguous in that respect. At the society level, polygamy could have substantial indirect
effects. First, it may increase the nuptial rate (the number of marriages) in the society
as it becomes easier for women to get married in a polygamous society. Second, it may
increase the social norms in terms of number of children both for women and men, causing
that in area where polygamy is frequent, the monogamous family will tend to have more
children. The combination of these to elements could ofset the eventual lower fertility
rate of women in polygamous family

In 2000, Russia's eccentric ultranationalist politician Vladimir Zhirinovsky proposed polygamy as a novel solution to the country's demographic crisis. The leader of the Liberal Democratic Party proposed the country's family code be amended to allow men to take up to five wives. More wives, Zhirinovsky reasoned, would mean more babies, and thus boost Russia's shrinking population. After a brief debate in parliament, his scheme was dismissed.

Guardian:

Solution is simple.

Introduce Tax Per extra Child.

I propose the following amendment to the constitution.

A citizen of Nigeria shall have the right to bear and have two children only.

A male or Female citizen who has two children but desires an extra child/children may apply for the permission to have an extra child/children. Where proper application has been made and granted he/she can proceed to procreate and bear more than two children allowed by law.

[size=16pt]With the exclusion of two children granted by Law any additional child will require either/both parent to pay 20% annual Tax fee on the income of both parent.[/size]

ATLgal:

I don't think you can outright ban polygamy,  what you do is only recognize ONE wife under the law, [size=13pt] this will automatically deter others from wanting to marry the man, so if the man dies his property AUTOMATICALLY goes to that wife and HER kids, not his family and NOT the other wives or their kids. [/size]
   

Kobojunkie:

For Where?

ATLgal:

lol, well,    I would  hope it would DETER some women , no? when they know outright that the law says the legal wife gets the inheritance,  if them still marry na them know i guess,  lol,  naive i am huh?