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CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 6:47pm On Oct 02, 2023
The word "sealed" or a sealed document usually means a judge has ruled that records normally open to the public cannot be released without court permission. Despite Trump's requests, Obama's records supposedly sealed were not released.
As Obama was running for re-election in 2012, Trump called him a terrible student and demanded he release his academic records to the public. He offered to make a $5million charity donation if Obama released his transcripts, labelling him as the least transparent President in the history of the country.
Few years later, when Trump became candidate, he directed his Attorney to threaten his own high school, college0 and the college board against ever releasing his academic grades, "if in the event any of his records are released or otherwise disclose without his prior written consent, we will hold your institution liable to the fullest extent of the law including damages and criminality" Cohen wrote in a letter to Fordham University on behalf of Trump in May 2015.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 6:48pm On Oct 02, 2023
While confirming the request, Bob Howe, a spokesperson for Fordham said "we had received a phone call and we told the caller that Fordham is bound by federal law and that we could not/would not reveal/share any records (as we would not reveal any student records) with anyone except Mr.Trump himself or any recipient he designated in writing. Continuing, he said, our stance remains the same, we obey federal law and don 't release students records to anyone but the student/graduate or anyone the student designate in writing.
President Bola Tinubu, having studied and graduated in a U.S University is also protected under same 1974 Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act as was both Obama and Trump. While Chicago State University has repeatedly claimed and had sworn under an oath that President Tinubu is an alumni having graduated from the school in 1979.
Was it not a double standard for a US Court to have ordered a release of a student records, thereby breaking its own law?. Is this not discrimination?

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by ogaontop(m): 6:49pm On Oct 02, 2023
Any source of your arguments?

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Raskimonojendor: 6:51pm On Oct 02, 2023
Atiku is just wasting his time. The university has never denied Tinubu and has stood by their products.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Obi2saveNigeria: 6:54pm On Oct 02, 2023
What is this agbado urchin trying to say? I couldn't understand the gibberish he wrote. Meanwhile, it's such a shame how these people are supporting a criminal without shame

Spits!

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by HitRun(m): 6:55pm On Oct 02, 2023
First of all, A student's academic record is not "normally open" to the public in the US. For a 3rd party to have access to that record (including a student's parent who pays their fees and/or tuition), the student must grant permission. Alternatively, a court can order the school to make such records available to a 3rd Party, PROVIDED THE 3RD PARTY SHOWS A REASONABLE CAUSE WHILE SUCH AN ORDER SHOULD BE GRANTED. Trump had no such reasonable cause. If Obama was a terrible student, so what? Of course, he was right too when he threatened his alma mater with a lawsuit if they ever release his record without his consent (assuming the release was not on account of a valid court order).

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by OmoFiditi: 6:56pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
The word "sealed" or a sealed document usually means a judge has ruled that records normally open to the public cannot be released without court permission. Despite Trump's requests, Obama's records supposedly sealed were not released.
As Obama was running for re-election in 2012, Trump called him a terrible student and demanded he release his academic records to the public. He offered to make a $5million charity donation if Obama released his transcripts, labelling him as the least transparent President in the history of the country.
Few years later, when Trump became candidate, he directed his Attorney to threaten his own high school, college0 and the college board against ever releasing his academic grades, "if in the event any of his records are released or otherwise disclose without his prior written consent, we will hold your institution liable to the fullest extent of the law including damages and criminality" Cohen wrote in a letter to Fordham University on behalf of Trump in May 2015.

Tinubu mugus don dey sweat for yansh. You thought the US court is InJustice Salami and InJustice Arowoola's courts you louts love to brag about as being pro-Tinubu Judges.

When the Jury is out, the Supreme court would chose between hanging tinubu to dry or hanging themselves. grin

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by HitRun(m): 6:56pm On Oct 02, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
Atiku is just wasting his time. The university has never denied Tinubu and has stood by their products.


The issue at stake is not whether Tinubu went to CSU or not. The question under scrutiny is whether the certificate submitted by Tinubu to INEC is real or fake.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Alchemy528: 6:58pm On Oct 02, 2023
Question ⁉️
Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Racoon(m): 7:20pm On Oct 02, 2023
The judge said, “The court cautions President Tinubu that any request for a stay before this court will be denied, as the court finds any stay impracticable in light of the fast-approaching Supreme Court of Nigeria deadlines.

So these shameless zombies now know that there can be a sane society where the rule of law can be respected and criminals identity would not be protected?

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:23pm On Oct 02, 2023
Racoon:
So these shameless zombies now know that there can be a sane society where the rule of law can be respected and criminals identity would not be protected?
The day you learn to read and understand, is the day your life starts getting better.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:26pm On Oct 02, 2023
HitRun:
First of all, A student's academic record is not "normally open" to the public in the US. For a 3rd party to have access to that record (including a student's parent who pays their fees and/or tuition), the student must grant permission. Alternatively, a court can order the school to make such records available to a 3rd Party, PROVIDED THE 3RD PARTY SHOWS A REASONABLE CAUSE WHILE SUCH AN ORDER SHOULD BE GRANTED. Trump had no such reasonable cause. If Obama was a terrible student, so what? Of course, he was right too when he threatened his alma mater with a lawsuit if they ever release his record without his consent (assuming the release was not on account of a valid court order).
Did any court even dare entertain the case, much less giving an order?. Is that not double standard?.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by ehikwe22: 7:27pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
The word "sealed" or a sealed document usually means a judge has ruled that records normally open to the public cannot be released without court permission. Despite Trump's requests, Obama's records supposedly sealed were not released.
As Obama was running for re-election in 2012, Trump called him a terrible student and demanded he release his academic records to the public. He offered to make a $5million charity donation if Obama released his transcripts, labelling him as the least transparent President in the history of the country.
Few years later, when Trump became candidate, he directed his Attorney to threaten his own high school, college0 and the college board against ever releasing his academic grades, "if in the event any of his records are released or otherwise disclose without his prior written consent, we will hold your institution liable to the fullest extent of the law including damages and criminality" Cohen wrote in a letter to Fordham University on behalf of Trump in May 2015.

Did they approach a court and the court declined? Was there any probable cause to demand for the release of those records? Tinubu forged a certificate to present to INEC which is enough probable cause. Why would he forge his own certificate if he actually graduated? He should have just asked for a replacement

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:29pm On Oct 02, 2023
HitRun:


The issue at stake is not whether Tinubu went to CSU or not. The question under scrutiny is whether the certificate submitted by Tinubu to INEC is real or fake.
Did CSU say his certificate was fake or did they ever deny issuing him a certificate?

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:31pm On Oct 02, 2023
PigKILLERpromax:
Dont ask for SOUTHERN UNITY because YOU KILLED IT...BY BEING FOOLISH and SELFISH.

ATIKU WILL HAVE THE SUPPORT OF EVERYBODY..JUST TO REMOVE YOU WORTHLESS PIGLETs...Fathered by PIGs
The election loss pain you pass the civil war.. Sorry.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Artiiclebeast: 7:34pm On Oct 02, 2023
Did any of the examples you stated above relate to disputed/challengedelection results?

Make una still learn to dey hang emotions for corner while getting truly critical in reasoning.
Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:34pm On Oct 02, 2023
ehikwe22:


Did they approach a court and the court declined? Was there any probable cause to demand for the release of those records? Tinubu forged a certificate to present to INEC which is enough probable cause. Why would he forge his own certificate if he actually graduated? He should have just asked for a replacement
Yeah but no permission was granted. Given the same event surrounding Trump's taxes, till date no court has ordered his tax clearance be made public.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by kingbee90: 7:37pm On Oct 02, 2023
Na who and you Wan discuss this issue?
Oga if you are pained, book a flight, go to Chicago and protest against the judgement.

A certain Bola A Tinubu graduated from CSU but the question is : is that Bola Tinubu the same man in Aso-Rock?

What time did AMODA Ogunlere had to attend classes/lectures and study when he was always out on the streets of Chicago dealing heroin and other nacortics which led to his forfeiture of millions of $ to the US government ?

Dey play...

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by PigKILLERpromax: 7:40pm On Oct 02, 2023
NEVER EXPECTED PETER OBI TO WIN..BASED ON A FRAUDULENT ELECTORAL PROCESS...AND I PROVED MY ONE NIGERIA BRETHREN RIGHT.

NOW I HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HATE NIGERIA and worthless TINUBU supporters with passion..


WHEN ATIKU STRKES..if you shout southern nuity ..OGUN AND SHANGO will kee ya.


femisplash:
The election loss pain you pass the civil war.. Sorry.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:43pm On Oct 02, 2023
Artiiclebeast:
Did any of the examples you stated above relate to disputed/challengedelection results?

Make una still learn to dey hang emotions for corner while getting truly critical in reasoning.
You asking dumb question

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by femisplash: 7:46pm On Oct 02, 2023
PigKILLERpromax:
NEVER EXPECTED PETER OBI TO WIN..BASED ON A FRAUDULENT ELECTORAL PROCESS...AND I PROVED MY ONE NIGERIA BRETHREN RIGHT.

NOW I HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT HATE NIGERIA and worthless TINUBU supporters with passion..


WHEN ATIKU STRKES..if you shout southern nuity ..OGUN AND SHANGO will kee ya.


Obi cannot win with only SE votes, even an illiterate ipob knows this.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Artiiclebeast: 7:53pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
You asking dumb question

Because you have a skull housing poo for a brain.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by ehikwe22: 7:55pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
Yeah but no permission was granted. Given the same event surrounding Trump's taxes, till date no court has ordered his tax clearance be made public.
what was the probable cause for demanding for it? Atiku was able to prove inconsistency in Tinubu's certificate beyond all reasonable doubts

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by PigKILLERpromax: 7:58pm On Oct 02, 2023
Did Tinubu win with SW votes?

Even a dumb corn rodent should appreciate this FACT.


femisplash:
Obi cannot win with only SE votes, even an illiterate ipob knows this.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by HitRun(m): 8:06pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
Did CSU say his certificate was fake or did they ever deny issuing him a certificate?

CSU said they cannot authenticate what Tinubu submitted

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by HitRun(m): 8:07pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
Did any court even dare entertain the case, much less giving an order?. Is that not double standard?.

I don’t understand what you are asking.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by BigCowHornn: 8:08pm On Oct 02, 2023
femisplash:
While confirming the request, Bob Howe, a spokesperson for Fordham said "we had received a phone call and we told the caller that Fordham is bound by federal law and that we could not/would not reveal/share any records (as we would not reveal any student records) with anyone except Mr.Trump himself or any recipient he designated in writing. Continuing, he said, our stance remains the same, we obey federal law and don 't release students records to anyone but the student/graduate or anyone the student designate in writing.
President Bola Tinubu, having studied and graduated in a U.S University is also protected under same 1974 Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act as was both Obama and Trump. While Chicago State University has repeatedly claimed and had sworn under an oath that President Tinubu is an alumni having graduated from the school in 1979.
Was it not a double standard for a US Court to have ordered a release of a student records, thereby breaking its own law?. Is this not discrimination?

Donald Trump.... American citizen
Obama.................. Americn citizen

Tinubu ......................... ?



In the US, where i come from there are laws for Citizen and non citizen.
As a non citizen for example can you invoke the 5th amendment of the US constitution? There is a specific law that allows the US to release all document nd info of any individual who is a non US citizen to aid an on going case in a foreign land and that is what happened.


Zombie you go wail in vain.

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Re: CSU Saga; Is U.S Court Biased? by Chinjo2: 8:15pm On Oct 02, 2023
Ok

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