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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by BreconHills(m): 1:13pm On Oct 05, 2023
AdamuKD:
sad sad
What a shame. If you are supporting this criminal , that means that your conscience is dead already.

How do you sleep in the night knowing fully well that you are part of Nigeria's problem. May your conscience judge you

May heaven and earth judge you.

And may your life be run like the way Tinubu is ruling Nigeria. If you cannot genuinely answer Amen to this prayer, know that you are part of Nigeria's problem and the innocent blood that have been crying for justice in Nigeria will keep on haunting you

You are being emotional. Unnecessarily so.

You say Tinubu forged the copy of the certificate presented to INEC. On what proof? The burden of proof rests upon the party making the assertion ( I am going to come back to this later below). It is not Tinubus responsibility to prove that he did not forge the certificate. It is Atikus responsibility to prove? Has he discharge that responsibility? No.

Let me tell you why.

Apart from the original certificate issued by the CSU, the school says that replacement certificates are issued by third party vendors and that secondly they are ceremonial in nature because the proof of university attendance is registry records and transcripts. The whole point of lodging certificates is to prove attendance and graduation. I digress. Let's go on.

Who are the third party vendors? Did Atiku prove that all third party vendors issuing replacement certificates did not issue PBAT with the certificate he filed with INEC? ( remember what I said above that the case is Atikus to prove not PBATs )

To do that he would have to obtain a list of accredited third party vendors and subpoena them to declare IF one BAT contracted them to provide a third party certificate. They would also need to say if the said certificate lodged by PBAT was produced by them. Atiku did not do this. As such he did not prove forgery.

Prima facie even if the SC were disposed to admit this evidence which it won't, then the court will hold the issue of forgery as not proven especially as the school has said that PBAT is an alumni and the CSU has cured by affidavit any disparity in the registry records.

Atikus and Obi's lawyers did not correctly advice him. Atiku has lost his case and that is why he is calling a press conference. In fact I believe the press conference and not the Presidency was his end game all along.

As for Obi well... grin

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by donkach: 1:16pm On Oct 05, 2023
MorataFC:
Can you forge an authentic certificate?

That's why people like you always become gullible to the trick of lawyers, the question was "Can you forge an authentic certificate" from the university you graduated from?
Then all of a sudden you changed the story from a University certificate to a secondary certificate. Did Tinubu submit secondary certificate to INEC?
Yes you can. Anything other than what was issued to you, is forged.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by babzlim(m): 1:17pm On Oct 05, 2023
Dittodat:
This Oseni is a delusional narcissistic egomaniac suffering from grand delusion of self worth.
The idiotic brainwashed Ob!diot is a disgrace to the journalist profession.
He's not even a journalist in the true sense, he's just masquerading as one.

so your in full support of this nonsense happening in this government.

so you feel the next generation should follow the foot steps of this government and Mr President?

Please answer the question.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by boxypane(m): 1:18pm On Oct 05, 2023
Anybody who still believes that Tinubu faked result after reading the 200 paged document released by CSU is in absolute delusion just like Rufai, their days are numbered.

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by NwaliE01: 1:23pm On Oct 05, 2023
Elrufai. This is unprofessionalism. He should have allowed the man to finish making his point before interjecting. Nobody has the monopoly of knowledge.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Dsimmer: 1:24pm On Oct 05, 2023
LegendHero:
Lol. Rufai the aparo journalist.

See him giving disclaimer online today.

Don't mind the charlatan. Why wouldn't he backtrack when he realised his stupidity?

Meanwhile, the useless fraud doesn't have a journalism degree yet acting as one on TV! He graduated from a school of agriculture, not a university, thus he couldn't have said he had a journalism degree from a school of agriculture 🤔

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by hippyj(m): 1:25pm On Oct 05, 2023
strangest:
There's nothing to argue here....


Did Nmesoma take the WAEC exam? Yes. Did she achieve the scores she claimed from WAEC? No. Similarly, did Tinubu attend CSU? Yes. Is the result he submitted to INEC from that school? No. So, what does this constitute?Forgery.
Very simple....

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by gotnel: 1:32pm On Oct 05, 2023
Just to participate in the ongoing Tinubu certification rigmarole!
Everyone at one point wants to be seen talking.
Let us wait to hear from Atiku who originally went for the information on Tinubu.
Let us wait for the supreme Court to make use of the information contained in what Atiku present to the court.
Noise here and there will not add or subtract from the saga
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by yemex04(m): 1:33pm On Oct 05, 2023
BreconHills:


You are being emotional. Unnecessarily so.

You say Tinubu forged the copy of the certificate presented to INEC. On what proof? The burden of proof rests upon the party making the assertion ( I am going to come back to this later below). It is not Tinubus responsibility to prove that he did not forge the certificate. It is Atikus responsibility to prove? Has he discharge that responsibility? No.

Let me tell you why.

Apart from the original certificate issued by the CSU, the school says that replacement certificates are issued by third party vendors and that secondly they are ceremonial in nature because the proof of university attendance is registry records and transcripts. The whole point of lodging certificates is to prove attendance and graduation. I digress. Let's go on.

Who are the third party vendors? Did Atiku prove that all third party vendors issuing replacement certificates did not issue PBAT with the certificate he filed with INEC? ( remember what I said above that the case is Atikus to prove not PBATs )

To do that he would have to obtain a list of accredited third party vendors and subpoena them to declare IF one BAT contracted them to provide a third party certificate. They would also need to say if the said certificate lodged by PBAT was produced by them. Atiku did not do this. As such he did not prove forgery.

Prima facie even if the SC were disposed to admit this evidence which it won't, then the court will hold the issue of forgery as not proven especially as the school has said that PBAT is an alumni and the CSU has cured by affidavit any disparity in the registry records.

A[b]tikus and Obi's lawyers did not correctly advice him. Atiku has lost his case and that is why he is calling a press conference. In fact I believe the press conference and not the Presidency was his end game all along.
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As for Obi well... grin




The emboldened.

Atiku & his Team are not after wining any legal Battle,they are just after blackmailing the man Tinubu. Obviously for them, the sensationalization is preferable to the winning
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Timmi: 1:34pm On Oct 05, 2023
AdamuKD:
sad sad
What a shame. If you are supporting this criminal , that means that your conscience is dead already.

How do you sleep in the night knowing fully well that you are part of Nigeria's problem. May your conscience judge you

May heaven and earth judge you.

And may your life be run like the way Tinubu is ruling Nigeria. If you cannot genuinely answer Amen to this prayer, know that you are part of Nigeria's problem and the innocent blood that have been crying for justice in Nigeria will keep on haunting you

Oga AdamuKD, what do you want heaven and earth to judge a person for? Is it for supporting the most qualified candidate of the three contestants or for not supporting your marabouts induced Atikuthief or for not been part of the wailing Obizombies? Please clarify, then we will know whether to Amen your prayer

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Dsimmer: 1:36pm On Oct 05, 2023
strangest:
There's nothing to argue here....


Did Nmesoma take the WAEC exam? Yes. Did she achieve the scores she claimed from WAEC? No. Similarly, did Tinubu attend CSU? Yes. Is the result he submitted to INEC from that school? No. So, what does this constitute?Forgery.

One of the headless mob we're talking about!


Go fix your brain first!

First, CSU admitted that Tinubu graduated with distinction honours (first class result) from their school, as shown in the transcript. They also noted that they deal in transcript like other American universities while their third party deal in issuing replacement ceremonial certificates for those who want it because it's only ceremonial but they do know that most Nigerians love having such ceremonial certificate anyway. Lol 😅 They eventually posted all the formats of all the ceremonial certificates from their third party which corroborated with the format of Tinubu's certificate, even as their own main transcript corroborated with Tinubu's certificate!

Whereas Nmesoma on the other hand forged her own jamb score, different from the score which jamb gave her! Not only that but the fraudster also wanted to be rewarded as the highest scorer!

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by strangest(m): 1:40pm On Oct 05, 2023
Dsimmer:


One of the headless mob we're talking about!


Go fix your brain first!

First, CSU admitted that Tinubu graduated with honours (first class result) from their school, as shown in the transcript. They also noted they only deal in transcript like other American universities while their third party deal in issuing the ceremonial certificates for those who want it because it's only ceremonial but they do know that most Nigerians love having such ceremonial certificate anyway. Lol 😅 They eventually posted all the ceremonial certificates from their third party which corroborated with Tinubu's certificate, even as their own main transcript corroborated Tinubu's certificate!

Whereas Nmesoma on the other hand forged her own jamb score, different from the score which jamb gave her! Not only that but the fraudster also wanted to be rewarded as the highest scorer!


In the latest development, a top official of CSU, Mr Carl Westberg, on Tuesday said that a replacement copy of the Diploma certificate Tinubu submitted to the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, was not from the Institution.

Westberg, who is the Registrar of the university, speaking under oath, specifically told the court that he was seeing the Diploma certificate copy for the very first time in the instant proceedings.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Dsimmer: 1:44pm On Oct 05, 2023
strangest:



In the latest development, a top official of CSU, Mr Carl Westberg, on Tuesday said that a replacement copy of the Diploma certificate Tinubu submitted to the Independent National Electoral Commission, INEC, was not from the Institution.

Westberg, who is the Registrar of the university, speaking under oath, specifically told the court that he was seeing the Diploma certificate copy for the very first time in the instant proceedings.

I deal in fact, not stupidity! Not the uselessness of retarded headless mobs who's got no functional brain!

This was what the registrar stated! That's from the horses mouth! Not the stupid headless mob idiots saying gibberish everywhere!

Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by membranus: 1:44pm On Oct 05, 2023
BreconHills:


You are being emotional. Unnecessarily so.

You say Tinubu forged the copy of the certificate presented to INEC. On what proof? The burden of proof rests upon the party making the assertion ( I am going to come back to this later below). It is not Tinubus responsibility to prove that he did not forge the certificate. It is Atikus responsibility to prove? Has he discharge that responsibility? No.

Let me tell you why.

Apart from the original certificate issued by the CSU, the school says that replacement certificates are issued by third party vendors and that secondly they are ceremonial in nature because the proof of university attendance is registry records and transcripts. The whole point of lodging certificates is to prove attendance and graduation. I digress. Let's go on.

Who are the third party vendors? Did Atiku prove that all third party vendors issuing replacement certificates did not issue PBAT with the certificate he filed with INEC? ( remember what I said above that the case is Atikus to prove not PBATs )

To do that he would have to obtain a list of accredited third party vendors and subpoena them to declare IF one BAT contracted them to provide a third party certificate. They would also need to say if the said certificate lodged by PBAT was produced by them. Atiku did not do this. As such he did not prove forgery.

Prima facie even if the SC were disposed to admit this evidence which it won't, then the court will hold the issue of forgery as not proven especially as the school has said that PBAT is an alumni and the CSU has cured by affidavit any disparity in the registry records.

Atikus and Obi's lawyers did not correctly advice him. Atiku has lost his case and that is why he is calling a press conference. In fact I believe the press conference and not the Presidency was his end game all along.

As for Obi well... grin

As for Obi, that's a pitiable loser, and has no chance anymore of ever ruling this country. His horrible supporters has spoiled that opportunity for him.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by hollywater: 1:45pm On Oct 05, 2023
seanfer:
Oseni should learn how to comport himself on TV... As a TV host you are not supposed to call guest on your shows names..
Abeg abeg hold it dia. Shameless people.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by seanfer(m): 1:46pm On Oct 05, 2023
ShootThemAll:


Go and watch the full video and stop saying what you don't know.

I am talking on how a professional TV host should behave on air and you are here telling me to go and watch full video....
Did Oseni abused that man by calling him emotional Blackmailer on air or not? In a good and working country is that a way a good TV Host will talk?
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by strangest(m): 1:46pm On Oct 05, 2023
Dsimmer:


I deal in fact, not stupidity! Not the uselessness of retarded headless mobs who's got no functional brain!

This was what the registrar stated! That's from the horses mouth! Not the stupid headless mob idiots saying gibberish everywhere!


Okay... It usually starts with shouting and insulting people... With time, the second phase of accepting will come.... I wish you the best though
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Dsimmer: 1:47pm On Oct 05, 2023
strangest:


Okay

Good you know!
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by samuelson06(m): 1:54pm On Oct 05, 2023
seanfer:
Oseni should learn how to comport himself on TV... As a TV host you are not supposed to call guest on your shows names..

The country dey vex the guy grin
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by OkukoIgbo: 1:58pm On Oct 05, 2023
LegendHero:
Lol. Rufai the aparo journalist.

See him giving disclaimer online today.

How do you people twist your Already dead conscience?
He was disclaiming a video a charlatan like you conjured, and you already twisted it, Damn! We are gone in this country.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Teeklef(m): 2:00pm On Oct 05, 2023
BentizilL0:

Yes, may your life also be run like Peter Obi run anambra...



Being emotional won't make Pandora thief a president...
May heaven and earth judge you and your family if you wish Nigeria and Tinubu bad but come here to act innocent..

Who are the innocent that have been crying for justice?
I love that prayer. May his life also be run like obi run anambra😂😂😂
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by BreconHills(m): 2:04pm On Oct 05, 2023
yemex04:





The emboldened.

Atiku & his Team are not after wining any legal Battle,they are just after blackmailing the man Tinubu. Obviously for them, the sensationalization is preferable to the winning

I agree with you. No one calls a press conference to discuss a case still in court.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by seanfer(m): 2:07pm On Oct 05, 2023
samuelson06:


The country dey vex the guy grin

Statement and attitude like that may hinder his growth in the business... Imagine international stations trying to employ him and videos like this are found?
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Litmus: 2:13pm On Oct 05, 2023
Ultimately, Nigerians of all persuasion will have to mentally decide if they want a sitting president impeached on a Technicality because that is what the fudged documents amounts to in this matter. Acceptable evidence will emerge through the fog of doubt and alternating arguments that he, Tinubu, did attend the high institutions claimed (acquiring the qualifications claimed ) and confirmed by the relevant institutions. It cannot however be satisfactorily dismissed that, not having the authentic documents required by the Nigeria electoral rules that qualifes him presidential candidate, Tinabu gave in to the typical Nigeria urge to circumvent obstacles by plumbing for a short term, short-cut, statutory unlawful means. This attitude sterming from the frontiers nature of our Nigeria realities. He went and obtained a custom-made replica document from unauthorised vendor. Nigeria progresses silently and invisibly and he Tinabu was a victim of this just as the railways of modernity overtook the cowboys frontiers. He did not count on what he did becoming a bone of contention in a Nigeria where such behaviour was staple. His "criminal record" not helping.

Nigerians will need to weigh up whether to risk the existence of the nation on this technicality. Contemporaries argue that in the case of AL Gore v Bush, the US supreme court made controversial decisions in order to safeguard America and mitigate civil unrest. In our current Nigeria climate that would be corruption. In our defence, It is axiomatic that devouts of other people's religion are more rigid and fanatical than originators . We need to be pragmatic.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by oyeraff: 2:21pm On Oct 05, 2023
Oseni Rufai is PDP/LP journalist, he is never neutral, he even quarrels with his senior colleague Reuben Abati when he was been corrected.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by spiSeyi: 2:25pm On Oct 05, 2023
The APC chieftain is jobless if not he wouldn't have honored the invitation of a biased roadside journalistgrin grin.

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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by gideonvalor98(m): 2:26pm On Oct 05, 2023
AdamuKD:
sad sad
What a shame. If you are supporting this criminal , that means that your conscience is dead already.

How do you sleep in the night knowing fully well that you are part of Nigeria's problem. May your conscience judge you

May heaven and earth judge you.

And may your life be run like the way Tinubu is ruling Nigeria. If you cannot genuinely answer Amen to this prayer, know that you are part of Nigeria's problem and the innocent blood that have been crying for justice in Nigeria will keep on haunting you

Useless he goat...and what should hunt you and your family members spreading fake news about his person? What should be your nemesis - yourself and your family members wanting to bring someone with only GCE CERTIFICATE given to inec despite all the noise he make about making uncountable certificates...some going about disgracing himself in interviews despite answers written for him in a book right before him. ALL OF YOU THAT THINK OBI ,THAT USETO GET ADVICE FROM MAD MEN IS THE RIGHT FIT FOR NIGERIA, MAY THUNDER LOCATE EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU.

SAY AMEN ,IF E SURE FOR YOU...omo eran lasan lasan
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Shikini: 2:27pm On Oct 05, 2023
femisplash:
I don't know why APC guys can't ignore this mo'fucka. Jagaban ignored their existence and still won, he rendered the station irrelevant.

Lol ... e pain you, sorry!
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Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Proudlyomonna: 2:32pm On Oct 05, 2023
Lol grin in as much as it is very irritating to see people try to defend this well known criminal We have for President, a host calling someone an emotional blackmailer is quite off the lines.

Tinubu is a criminal no doubt cheesy

He has played His game well already so I expect quite little or nothing to come out of this case.

After all said and done, reality remains if Nija does not ends this evil APC structure of suffering and hardship,APC will end Nija.

May the strongest survive.
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Cromagnon: 2:38pm On Oct 05, 2023
Xscape1993:
We have lost everything already in this country just because of money...
but we gained money
Re: Rufai Oseni, Oladotun Hassan Argue On Air Over Tinubu’s Certificate (Video) by Cromagnon: 2:38pm On Oct 05, 2023
Racoon:
Something that is long public knowledge. This is just utter shamelessness @ its nauseating peak. One just have to be a hardened criminal like Tinubu to be able to defend his numerous unending criminal scandals.

These ewa, garri, cassava and agbado munching mummified zombies are never tired of defending idiocy.

what do you eat daily?

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