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Religion Vs Christianity by Unbreakable26(f): 2:38pm On Oct 29, 2023
Am always confused about the difference between religion and Christianity... Please can somebody explain it to me so that I will understand it better.
Thanks
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Oct 29, 2023
Unbreakable26:

Am always confused about the difference between religion and Christianity... Please can somebody explain it to me so that I will understand it better. Thanks

RELIGION:
Belief in a spiritual or metaphysical reality (often including at least one deity), accompanied by practices or rituals pertaining to the belief.

CHRISTIANITY:
An Abrahamic religion originating from the community of the followers of Jesus Christ.

The above two are dictionary's definitions but while both are simply stated Christianity has to do with an assignment a first century Jewish young man called Jesus of Nazareth gave his disciples:

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations" Matthew 28:19

He also said in another verse

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8


Surely Christianity is also a religion just like all others.

But what makes this religion stand out totally as different from all the others?

About the difference that will be obvious to all the inhabitants of the earth Jesus of Nazareth said:

You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16

As the founder of this religion Jesus was called the "Prince of Peace" centuries before his birth {Isaiah 9:6} God's word foretold a time when people from all geographical locations on this planet will begin to consider the words of the God of Abraham {Isaiah 2:2} they will start inviting one another to assemble as one so that they can understand the words of counseling stated in the books written by the Israelites {Isaiah 2:3} after getting the clear understanding of this writings they will use what they found in it to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4

This prophecy was repeated by another Jewish prophet called Micah {Micah 4:1-3} this means that the disciples of Jesus will become one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers since they're followers of the Prince of Peace.
So that's what the preaching and teaching Jesus established in the first century is all about.

But there is another powerful spirit being who is in the hidden: Satan the devil!
This powerful spirit is the person behind all the other religions on this planet {Revelations 12:9} his aim is to rule over the earth {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} God has set a time when this wicked spirit will be totally exterminated {Genesis 3:15} so out of spite Satan wanted all humans to go down with him so he is initiating one religion after another just in case the Prince of Peace who will spoil his work should arrive mankind will be totally lost as to countless religions that will be on ground.

Well he succeeded in multiplying false religions all in the name of Jesus {Matthew 13:25} but Jesus called all faithful humans out of the false religions claiming Christians {Revelations 18:4} and the true God began calling His faithful worshipers by another group name! Isaiah 65:15

Will you like to know the name of the one and only organization that's practicing pure worship today? smiley

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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 3:13pm On Oct 29, 2023
Unbreakable26:
Am always confused about the difference between religion and Christianity... Please can somebody explain it to me so that I will understand it better.
Thanks
There is no difference though. Christianity is a religion that was established by men on what are their doctrines and traditions and is wielded by men as a political tool of control over other men by which they gain power and weath over the controlled. That is what religion is and Christianity as well. undecided

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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 3:20pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
There is no difference though. Christianity is a religion that was established by men on what are their doctrines and traditions and is wielded by men as a political tool of control over other men by which they gain power and weath over the controlled. That is what religion is and Christianity as well. undecided

So who are the men who established the religion of Christianity?
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Unbreakable26(f): 3:53pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
There is no difference though. Christianity is a religion that was established by men on what are their doctrines and traditions and is wielded by men as a political tool of control over other men by which they gain power and weath over the controlled. That is what religion is and Christianity as well. undecided



I thought Christianity started from the bible and Christian practice the bible doctrines ? ?

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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 3:56pm On Oct 29, 2023
Unbreakable26:
■ I thought Christianity started from the bible and Christian practice the bible doctrines ? ?
That is rather the lie those who call themselves "church fathers" would like for you to believe. The truth is instead that what you know as Christianity today was that made official about 300 years after the bible times. And it is based on theories and formulations of men regarding what is written in Scripture and not on Scripture itself. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 3:58pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
■ So who are the men who established the religion of Christianity?
History has it that the Emperor Constantine, and other politically (and greed) minded bishops of his time established the religion you have today. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by ILEMUDA(m): 4:05pm On Oct 29, 2023
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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 4:52pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
History has it that the Emperor Constantine, and other politically (and greed) minded bishops of his time established the religion you have today. undecided

The name Christian appear in the Bible.

So Emperor Constantine can't establish it.

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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Unbreakable26(f): 4:53pm On Oct 29, 2023
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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Unbreakable26(f): 5:03pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
That is rather the lie those who call themselves "church fathers" would like for you to believe. The truth is instead that what you know as Christianity today was that made official about 300 years after the bible times. And it is based on theories and formulations of men regarding what is written in Scripture and not on Scripture itself. undecided

But Christianity started from the time of Jesus and the Emperor Constantine must have make uses of the bible then also
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 5:06pm On Oct 29, 2023
Unbreakable26:
But Christianity started from the time of Jesus
■ and the Emperor Constantine must have make uses of the bible then also
There is no truth to that idea since the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ run counter to the doctrines and traditions of the religion of Christianity as instituted by the Emperor Constantine and practiced today. undecided

2. Constantine and his gang of politically-minded bishops did make use of the bible in coming up with the scam scripts used in establishing the religion but that doesn't mean any of what they claim is actually of scripture. Kind of like how even when Satan tempted Jesus Christ, he quoted what seemed to be scripture even though nothing of what he in fact said is true of what is written in scripture. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 5:09pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
■ The name Christian appear in the Bible. So Emperor Constantine can't establish it.
What you just said makes no sense. The word was supposedly coined by a bunch of pagans in reference does not mean it was established as a religion at that time. History instead has it that Constantine is the one who made official the religious movement that goes about using that same term. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Unbreakable26(f): 5:18pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
There is no truth to that idea since the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ run counter to the doctrines and traditions of the religion of Christianity as instituted by the Emperor Constantine and practiced today. undecided

2. Constantine and his gang of politically-minded bishops did make use of the bible in coming up with the scam scripts used in establishing the religion but that doesn't mean any of what they claim is actually of scripture. Kind of like how even when Satan tempted Jesus Christ, he quoted what seemed to be scripture even though nothing of what he in fact said is true of what is written in scripture. undecided


Does it now mean that Christianity was not founded by Jesus
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 5:21pm On Oct 29, 2023
Unbreakable26:
■ Does it now mean that Christianity was not founded by Jesus
Jesus Christ warned His followers against following Religion? He made it abundantly clear that religion — the doctrines and traditions of men— were antichrist ideals that were against God's Truth and the Kingdom of God - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. He disavowed the Pharisees and teachers of the Law who held fast to religion instead of the Law of God. So, no, Jesus Christ never gave religion to men. Rather, men created religion in order to set themselves as gods pretending to sit between God and men. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 7:06pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
What you just said makes no sense.

It makes too much sense.

The word was supposedly coined by a bunch of pagans in reference does not mean it was established as a religion at that time.

But the Apostles welcome it and Peter admonished us not to be ashamed of the name even in suffering.

History instead has it that Constantine is the one who made official the religious movement that goes about using that same term. undecided

This is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard from someone who claimed to be follower of Christ.

Jesus Himself chosen 12 and at ascension, Jesus followers are already in hundreds.

At Pentecost over hundreds are at the upper room and that same day 5000 people were added to them which sent a strong fear to heart of the Pharisees.

Is this not a movement?

So, how can Constantine started this over 300 years later?
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Unbreakable26(f): 7:21pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:


It makes too much sense.



But the Apostles welcome it and Peter admonished us not to be ashamed of the name even in suffering.



This is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard from someone who claimed to be follower of Christ.

Jesus Himself chosen 12 and at ascension, Jesus followers are already in hundreds.

At Pentecost over hundreds are at the upper room and that same day 5000 people were added to them which sent a strong fear to heart of the Pharisees.

Is this not a movement?

So, how can Constantine started this over 300 years later?


Thanks for this explanation
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 7:22pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
■ It makes too much sense. But the Apostles welcome it and Peter admonished us not to be ashamed of the name even in suffering.
■ This is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard from someone who claimed to be follower of Christ. Jesus Himself chosen 12 and at ascension, Jesus followers are already in hundreds. At Pentecost over hundreds are at the upper room and that same day 5000 people were added to them which sent a strong fear to heart of the Pharisees. Is this not a movement? So, how can Constantine started this over 300 years later?
Unbreakable26:
Thanks for this explanation
Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed, so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that. undecided

2. According to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ. The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 8:09pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed, so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that. undecided

The Apostles welcome the name and admonished us not to be ashamed of it even in suffering.

So which means all what the Apostles did are wrong including pen down the book you read to have known Jesus from.

2. According to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ.

So who wrote the scripture?

Did those Israelites chosen by Jesus stop doing things immediately Jesus died?

The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law. undecided

The Christian movement started by the very person of Jesus Himself continue by the Apostles which is even it was recorded that they (The Apostles) were called first CHRISTIAN (meaning the CHRIST-LIKE) in Antioch. If Jesus didn't start the movement nobody will call the Apostles (Christ-like).

You couldn't deny the number of followers Jesus had (which is is causing serious fear to the Pharisees that leads to Jesus arrest and crucifixion), that's a movement.

You couldn't deny how number of people were added to the Apostles in a day which sent great fear to the heart of the Pharisees. Which is a great movement.

So Constantine can't start Christianity as a religion.

Jesus started it and followed by the Apostles, till people like you read about Him.

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Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkiee: 8:25pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
The Apostles welcome the name and admonished us not to be ashamed of it even in suffering. So which means all what the Apostles did are wrong including pen down the book you read to have known Jesus from.
■ So who wrote the scripture?Did those Israelites chosen by Jesus stop doing things immediately Jesus died?The Christian movement started by the very person of Jesus Himself continue by the Apostles which is even it was recorded that they (The Apostles) were called first CHRISTIAN (meaning the CHRIST-LIKE) in Antioch. If Jesus didn't start the movement nobody will call the Apostles (Christ-like). You couldn't deny the number of followers Jesus had (which is is causing serious fear to the Pharisees that leads to Jesus arrest and crucifixion), that's a movement. You couldn't deny how number of people were added to the Apostles in a day which sent great fear to the heart of the Pharisees. Which is a great movement. So Constantine can't start Christianity as a religion. Jesus started it and followed by the Apostles, till people like you read about Him.
1. You keep saying things that don't make sense. Again, Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed, so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that. undecided

2. Stop desperately trying to derail from the topic here. Again, according to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ. The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 8:36pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkiee:
1. You keep saying things that don't make sense.

How will it make sense to people like you?

Again, Jesus Christ never said He sanctions any of what His apostles supposedly welcomed

But these are the people who walked with Jesus Himself. Do you know Jesus more than them?

so I am not certain where you intend to go with any of that. undecided

Where I'm going with that is that, they know Jesus more than you. So they welcome the name CHRISTIAN which means it was not established by Constantine in 300years later.

2. Stop desperately trying to derail from the topic here.

Reason why you stylishly boycotted all my questions.

Again, according to Scripture, those who were chosen by Jesus Christ were all Israelites — of the blood of Jacob— and He equally sent them only to those who were of Jacob and they were all bound by the Law which is Jesus Christ.

Do these people you just talk about did anything AFTER THE DEAD of Jesus Christ?

Did Apostles have movement that sent great fear to the heart of the Pharisees?

The movement that was made official 300 years later by Constantine and his politicians who sat as bishops had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His Law. undecided

Jesus made the movement official by choosing Apostles.

And Jesus Himself knew the number of Followers has increased. That's the movement you're still trying to lie against.

Constantine can never start CHRISTIANITY and the movement. That's the fact.
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkiee: 8:47pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
How will it make sense to people like you? But these are the people who walked with Jesus Himself. Do you know Jesus more than them?
■ Where I'm going with that is that, they know Jesus more than you. So they welcome the name CHRISTIAN which means it was not established by Constantine in 300years later.
■ Reason why you stylishly boycotted all my questions. Do these people you just talk about did anything AFTER THE DEAD of Jesus Christ? Did Apostles have movement that sent great fear to the heart of the Pharisees? Jesus made the movement official by choosing Apostles. And Jesus Himself knew the number of Followers has increased. That's the movement you're still trying to lie against. Constantine can never start CHRISTIANITY and the movement. That's the fact.
1. It can't make sense because these things you continue to assert have nothing to do with what Jesus Christ Himself gave as LAW to His followers and commanded that they obey in order to show their love for Him. undecided

2. They were called "Christians" by the Pagans. Were they instead to fight against the pagans for the label? No, they accepted that it was what they were called .... simple as that.

3. There is nothing stylish about making clear that the fact that the followers of Jesus Christ were labeled "Christians" at a point in time has absolutely nothing to do with the Religion that was eventually made official 300 years later by Pagans.
□ Jesus Christ made clear that His "movement" was to consist of only those who were of the blood of Jacob and of those who obeyed His Law alone.
□ The religion of Christianity is a movement founded by pagans on ideas that are not according to Jesus Christ's Law and comprised mostly of people who are not of the blood of Jacob.

How can they both be construed as one and the same? Is this claim any different from the Islamic claim that the God of Israel is the same Allah of the Muslims? undecided

Before you think of coming at me again with another one of your desperate distractions, ask yourself this. If Jesus Christ had been alive at the time Constantine and his political bishops came together to inaugurate the religion of Christianity as they did, would Jesus Christ have given them His stamp of approval given all He declared over 300 years before as God's everlasting and Unchanging decree? undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 9:31pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkiee:
1. It can't make sense because these things you continue to assert have nothing to do with what Jesus Christ Himself gave as LAW to His followers and commanded that they obey in order to show their love for Him. undecided

HIS FOLLOWERS is the point here!

So Jesus has FOLLOWERS, then Constantine can't establish a movement called CHRISTIAN.

2. They were called "Christians" by the Pagans. Were they instead to fight against the pagans for the label? No, they accepted that it was what they were called .... simple as that.

That's my point.

Which means they recognised it as a movement STARTED BY JESUS HIMSELF.

CHRISTIAN= CHRIST-LIKE

3. There is nothing stylish about making clear that the fact that the followers of Jesus Christ were labeled "Christians" at a point in time has absolutely nothing to do with the Religion that was eventually made official 300 years later by Pagans.

Nobody made any religion official in 300 years later after the death of Christ.

Christian is a movement started by Jesus Himself. That's the fact.

□ Jesus Christ made clear that His "movement" was to consist of only those who were of the blood of Jacob and of those who obeyed His Law alone.

Now you have agreed that Jesus have a Movement.

So, are you of the blood of Jacob and are you are you obeying Jesus law ALONE?

□ The religion of Christianity is a movement founded by pagans on ideas that are not according to Jesus Christ's Law and comprised mostly of people who are not of the blood of Jacob.

Nobody could have started the movement of CHRISTIANITY if Jesus didn't initiate it and followed up by the Apostles.

How can they both be construed as one and the same? Is this claim any different from the Islamic claim that the God of Israel is the same Allah of the Muslims? undecided

That's entirely different.

Jesus started a movement, the Apostles Jesus Himself chosen continue the movement and they were called after Jesus movement. They accepted it, so nobody can establish CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT 300 years later.

Before you think of coming at me again with another one of your desperate distractions, ask yourself this.

You're the only distractor here.

If Jesus Christ had been alive at the time Constantine and his political bishops came together to inaugurate the religion of Christianity as they did, would Jesus Christ have given them His stamp of approval given all He declared over 300 years before as God's everlasting and Unchanging decree? undecided

Jesus Himself knew He can't be alive at that time reason why He chooses those who will continue to pass on what He started.

My point is, Constantine never established Christianity because the Apostles whom Jesus chosen were fully aware of that name.

So you lied.
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 9:47pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
■ HIS FOLLOWERS is the point here! So Jesus has FOLLOWERS, then Constantine can't establish a movement called CHRISTIAN.
■ That's my point. Which means they recognised it as a movement STARTED BY JESUS HIMSELF. CHRISTIAN= CHRIST-LIKE
■ Nobody made any religion official in 300 years later after the death of Christ. Christian is a movement started by Jesus Himself. That's the fact.
■Now you have agreed that Jesus have a Movement. So, are you of the blood of Jacob and are you are you obeying Jesus law ALONE?
■Nobody could have started the movement of CHRISTIANITY if Jesus didn't initiate it and followed up by the Apostles.
■That's entirely different. Jesus started a movement, the Apostles Jesus Himself chosen continue the movement and they were called after Jesus movement. They accepted it, so nobody can establish CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT 300 years later.
■You're the only distractor here. Jesus Himself knew He can't be alive at that time reason why He chooses those who will continue to pass on what He started. My point is, Constantine never established Christianity because the Apostles whom Jesus chosen were fully aware of that name.
So you lied.
1. Your point is moot since Jesus Christ, the leader of the group, never called His followers Christians nor did He tell them that He sanctioned any names they would be called by others. So, again, stop dragging the meaningless things into this and calling them facts. undecided

2. Rubbish! Jesus Christ was not a celebrated figure of the time so I am not sure why you continue to assert that a label given to His followers by pagans must be considered appropriate for the disciples He sent out. undecided

3. History has it that Constantine made the religion official 300 years after Jesus Christ. Are you attempting to deny what is official Roman history now? There is no scriptural evidence of this fact which you claim. Scripture instead has it that the label arose when Pagans labeled the followers of Jesus Christ using that term, this long after Jesus Christ had departed from this earth. You seem to think it is OK to make up these facts of yours out of thin air. undecided

4. Jesus Christ is not a movement but a Nation — a Kingdom. You labeled him as being merely a movement hence the reason why I have that there in quotes. undecided

5. Rubbish! History records that the one who made official the movement came from Pagan attempts at hijacking the Kingdom of God— which they clearly had no real understanding of— was Constantine, the Roman Emperor, along with his political bishops who needed the power and control for their own benefit. undecided

6. It is exactly the same thing. Approaching a situation you have little to no understanding of, and pretending you can simply claim it must be the same as the idea you cling to when details clearly reveal otherwise. undecided

7. See storytelling! So history is lying now is what your claim is. Oh well! undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 10:09pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Your point is moot since Jesus Christ, the leader of the group, never called His followers Christians nor did He tell them that He sanctioned any names they would be called by others. So, again, stop dragging the meaningless things into this and calling them facts. undecided

Christian= CHRIST-LIKE

Do you understand that?

2. Rubbish! Jesus Christ was not a celebrated figure of the time so I am not sure why you continue to assert that a label given to His followers by pagans must be considered appropriate for the disciples He sent out. undecided

The point is, Jesus started a movement which people SAW the traits in another people and say yes this people are CHRIST-LIKE (Christian).

A primary school pupil shouldn't find this hard to understand.

3. History has it that Constantine made the religion official 300 years after Jesus Christ.

Lie... provide the link.

Are you attempting to deny what is official Roman history now?

You've denied many things.

There is no scriptural evidence of this fact which you claim. Scripture instead has it that the label arose when Pagans labeled the followers of Jesus Christ using that term, this long after Jesus Christ had departed from this earth. You seem to think it is OK to make up these facts of yours out of thin air. undecided

Pagan labelled the FOLLOWERS of Jesus Christ using that TERM (CHRIST-LIKE) Means Jesus started something that people followed, reason why you agreed that they are Jesus FOLLOWERS.

So, how come you still claim Constantine established it?

4. Jesus Christ is not a movement but a Nation — a Kingdom. You labeled him as being merely a movement hence the reason why I have that there in quotes. undecided

You didn't answer my question as usual.

Where did I say Jesus is A MOVEMENT?

answer question above.

5. Rubbish! History records that the one who made official the movement came from Pagan attempts at hijacking the Kingdom of God— which they clearly had no real understanding of— was Constantine, the Roman Emperor, along with his political bishops who needed the power and control for their own benefit. undecided

But Jesus has FOLLOWERS long before Constantine was born.

6. It is exactly the same thing. Approaching a situation you have little to no understanding of, and pretending you can simply claim it must be the same as the idea you cling to when details clearly reveal otherwise. undecided

It's not! The Apostles aware of the name and embrace it. That shows they know about the movement Jesus started.

7. See storytelling! So history is lying now is what your claim is. Oh well! undecided

It's now storytelling cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Did Jesus has FOLLOWERS?

Did Jesus instruct the Apostles He choose to continue from where He stopped?

Did The Apostles continue based on the instructions given by Christ Himself?

Again, how can Constantine establish what Jesus Christ Himself started?

At least try to disgrace your father the Devil small nah
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 10:10pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
Christian= CHRIST-LIKE Do you understand that?
The point is, Jesus started a movement which people SAW the traits in another people and say yes this people are CHRIST-LIKE (Christian).A primary school pupil shouldn't find this hard to understand.Lie... provide the link.You've denied many things.
You are still saying absolutely nothing! Look, no need to drag this on meaninglessly abeg! undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 10:16pm On Oct 29, 2023
Kobojunkie:
You are still saying absolutely nothing! Look, no need to drag this on meaninglessly abeg! undecided

I know it will come to this.

I'm telling you, that you lied!

Constantine didn't establish the religion of Christianity.

Jesus started a movement which His FOLLOWERS continue and people called them a name after Christ Himself which even the Apostles themselves aware of and even encourage other BELIEVERS to accept. Meaning it's written boldly in the Bible.

So, the theory your father the Devil wants to dish with Constantine won't work.

Maybe the next thing that will come from you is that, Roman are the ones who sneak that word (CHRISTIAN) into Bible.
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Kobojunkie: 10:31pm On Oct 29, 2023
Emusan:
■ I know it will come to this. I'm telling you, that you lied! Constantine didn't establish the religion of Christianity. Jesus started a movement which His FOLLOWERS continue and people called them a name after Christ Himself which even the Apostles themselves aware of and even encourage other BELIEVERS to accept. Meaning it's written boldly in the Bible. So, the theory your father the Devil wants to dish with Constantine won't work. Maybe the next thing that will come from you is that, Roman are the ones who sneak that word (CHRISTIAN) into Bible.
You telling me I lied when it is obvious from your statements that you the confused one here mean absolutely nothing! undecided

Again, no need to drag this meaninglessly on since it is all clear you don't have any thing tangible to bring forward in this except for the delusional lies you have been fed by your gods of men. undecided
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by MightySparrow: 8:36am On Oct 30, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


RELIGION:
Belief in a spiritual or metaphysical reality (often including at least one deity), accompanied by practices or rituals pertaining to the belief.

CHRISTIANITY:
An Abrahamic religion originating from the community of the followers of Jesus Christ.

The above two are dictionary's definitions but while both are simply stated Christianity has to do with an assignment a first century Jewish young man called Jesus of Nazareth gave his disciples:

"Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations" Matthew 28:19

He also said in another verse

"But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8


Surely Christianity is also a religion just like all others.

But what makes this religion stand out totally as different from all the others?

About the difference that will be obvious to all the inhabitants of the earth Jesus of Nazareth said:

You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16

As the founder of this religion Jesus was called the "Prince of Peace" centuries before his birth {Isaiah 9:6} God's word foretold a time when people from all geographical locations on this planet will begin to consider the words of the God of Abraham {Isaiah 2:2} they will start inviting one another to assemble as one so that they can understand the words of counseling stated in the books written by the Israelites {Isaiah 2:3} after getting the clear understanding of this writings they will use what they found in it to settle all their disparities peacefully among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:4

This prophecy was repeated by another Jewish prophet called Micah {Micah 4:1-3} this means that the disciples of Jesus will become one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers since they're followers of the Prince of Peace.
So that's what the preaching and teaching Jesus established in the first century is all about.

But there is another powerful spirit being who is in the hidden: Satan the devil!
This powerful spirit is the person behind all the other religions on this planet {Revelations 12:9} his aim is to rule over the earth {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} God has set a time when this wicked spirit will be totally exterminated {Genesis 3:15} so out of spite Satan wanted all humans to go down with him so he is initiating one religion after another just in case the Prince of Peace who will spoil his work should arrive mankind will be totally lost as to countless religions that will be on ground.

Well he succeeded in multiplying false religions all in the name of Jesus {Matthew 13:25} but Jesus called all faithful humans out of the false religions claiming Christians {Revelations 18:4} and the true God began calling His faithful worshipers by another group name! Isaiah 65:15

Will you like to know the name of the one and only organization that's practicing pure worship today? smiley



Hahahaha.
Deluded organization.
Re: Religion Vs Christianity by Emusan(m): 5:58pm On Oct 30, 2023
Kobojunkie:
You telling me I lied when it is obvious from your statements that you the confused one here mean absolutely nothing! undecided

You lied that Constantine established Christianity when Jesus started the movement followed by the Apostles He chose.

Again, no need to drag this meaninglessly on since it is all clear you don't have any thing tangible to bring forward in this except for the delusional lies you have been fed by your gods of men. undecided

Christian is a Biblical term. You haven't provided any counter statement of the word CHRISTIAN was smuggled into Bible.

But since Christian was written in the Bible and the Apostles whom Jesus Himself chosen know about it and accepted it, then it means Constantine can't establish it.

So far so good, you're the one dragging a meaningless point inspired from your father the Devil.

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