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Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 1:20pm On Oct 26, 2011
Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."

Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."

Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."

Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."

Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)

Racial Theor[/b]y -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

[b]Economic
-- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.

Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.

Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."

Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.

Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."

Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

by: Rabbi Kalman Packouz
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 1:26pm On Oct 26, 2011
My 50 cents is that we have to LOVE the JEWS as we do all MEN.

We also have to take cue from their fall, as we are not immune to their mistakes, if we disobey God and despite his constant entreatment we reject him, we will be driven from his presence , open to the devil's attacks, until such a time when we repent and turn back to him.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by buzugee(m): 4:41pm On Oct 26, 2011
first off they are not jews. they are khazars. the real jews were black. these khazars converted to judaisim around 700 AD. these khazars are a warring and violent tribe if you check their history. if you look beneath the physical world into the spiritual world, there is something susceptible about the genetical makeup of these khazars that makes them extremely susceptible to demonic manipulation. their warring attributes has morphed into extreme greed. they want to control the world. they want all the wealth in the world. they want to manipulate the world and control people. does that all sound familiar ? evil spirits. thats why the are mostly hated.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by sarmy(m): 4:54pm On Oct 26, 2011
frosbel:

My 50 cents is that we have to LOVE the JEWS as we do all MEN.

We also have to take cue from their fall, as we are not immune to their mistakes, if we disobey God and despite his constant entreatment we reject him, we will be driven from his presence , open to the devil's attacks, until such a time when we repent and turn back to him.

Other races not as persecuted as the Jews, are they 100% obedience to God?

I still don't get why they should be going through all the persecutions despite being loved by God and chosen people

Were they chosen to suffer?
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 5:03pm On Oct 26, 2011
Remember that the CHOSEN seed is now the CHURCH.

While the JEWS occupy a special place in Christianity, remember that the promise is now spiritual not physical.


For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God. (Romans 2:28-29; ESV)

“This means that Abraham’s physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham’s children” (9:8: NLT).
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by sarmy(m): 5:20pm On Oct 26, 2011
frosbel:

Remember that the CHOSEN seed is now the CHURCH.

While the JEWS occupy a special place in Christianity, remember that the promise is now spiritual not physical.


For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God. (Romans 2:28-29; ESV)

“This means that Abraham’s physical descendants are not necessarily children of God. Only the children of the promise are considered to be Abraham’s children” (9:8: NLT).

Yes, the chosen are now the church

But the Jews the physical descendants of Abraham have never really enjoyed all through their life.

Right from slavery in Egypt, wars in Canaan land,  wars with Syrians and other neighbouring nations

Was there a time they really had peace, despite being the chosen nation up till now?

Even though some will argued that they disobeyed God, what about the nations that do not know God and yet they are better
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Sweetnecta: 6:58pm On Oct 26, 2011
^^^^^^^^^Did Abraham have the jews, or he is the great grandfather of the people you may call jews and others? I think the term jew is inaccurate as label for the children of Jacob.

When I read the christians, the seem to forget that Ishmael was the only child of Abraham that can ever be called first son, since he didn't sell his birthright like they tricked Esau to.

If there is a failure of prophesy, the Biblical God, according to what the Bible writers penned might have been cornered into it; the blessing of Ishmael seemed to have lingered and weakened the curse that was purported to have stained his person.

Yet the regret followed Issac who got the wrong wife who was against her own son when the old man became blind. I wonder what kind of a wife and mother Rebecca was? Talk about sleeping with the enemy and having your worst nightmare as mother.

Then peace has not been the possession of the "chosen people".

One should wonder what kind of omen is that.

The one cursed waxed greater while the one blessed ran into a brick wall.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by lepasharon(f): 7:02pm On Oct 26, 2011
First of of all they are not the real Jews!! Comon Wake Up! The real Jews is the African americans,thats why Hitler was killing they asss,wen he found out d Jew was the Negros
read a book called hebrewism in west africa
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Sweetnecta: 7:18pm On Oct 26, 2011
you are not serious, lepasharon.

seriously. yah kno!
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by ogajim(m): 2:15am On Oct 27, 2011
lepasharon:

First of of all they are not the real Jews!! Comon Wake Up! The real Jews is the African americans,thats why Hitler was killing they asss,wen he found out d Jew was the Negros
read a book called hebrewism in west africa



You've got to be kidding me, whatever it is you're smoking, please back away from it.


Africans and "African Americans"(A term coined by Jesse Jackson no less) which CAME FIRST?

I can understand if you claim the ORIGINAL Jews being Africans, Egypt was black before you know what and if Moses could blend easily with Pharaoh's family, you get my drift.


@Frosbel, I think you are referring mostly to the "Jews" that converted to Judaism since Judaism is not a race but a religion, Dig deep and you will see what I mean,
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 12:07pm On Oct 28, 2011
More evidences are coming up from the bible, history and archaeology that those we regard as Jews today are most likely not the Jews we read in the bible.

However what is more important is to be in Christ cos in him there is no Jew or gentile.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 12:27pm On Oct 28, 2011
belabela:

More evidences are coming up from the bible, history and archaeology that those we regard as Jews today are most likely not the Jews we read in the bible.

However what is more important is to be in Christ cos in him there is no Jew or gentile.

Absolutely correct !!
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Jenwitemi(m): 1:39pm On Oct 28, 2011
So, you are also on to the Khazar conspiracy, eh?
buzugee:

first off they are not jews. they are khazars. the real jews were black. these khazars converted to judaisim around 700 AD. these khazars are a warring and violent tribe if you check their history. if you look beneath the physical world into the spiritual world, there is something susceptible about the genetical makeup of these khazars that makes them extremely susceptible to demonic manipulation. their warring attributes has morphed into extreme greed. they want to control the world. they want all the wealth in the world. they want to manipulate the world and control people. does that all sound familiar ? evil spirits. thats why the are mostly hated.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by aletheia(m): 2:18pm On Oct 28, 2011
A question for you frosbel:

What are the differences between the Sephardim, the Ashkenazim and the Khazars?
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 2:27pm On Oct 28, 2011

A question for you frosbel:

What are the differences between the Sephardim, the Ashkenazim and the Khazars?


Don't know , don't care  grin

To me they are all Jews.

I do not believe in conspiracies, and more importantly the idea that we have the real jews as black is laughable.

But we should LOVE Jews just as we love other MEN and not create the impression that they are chosen above Christians.

Both Jew first and Gentile second in Christ are the chosen ones !!

On the other hand one can be a Jew and not be chosen if you get the gist !
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by lepasharon(f): 3:29pm On Oct 28, 2011
was christianity not a conspiracy? ^^
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by ogajim(m): 8:17pm On Oct 28, 2011
frosbel:


Don't know , don't care grin

To me they are all Jews.

I do not believe in conspiracies, and more importantly the idea that [b][/b]we have the real jews as black is laughable.

But we should LOVE Jews just as we love other MEN and not create the impression that they are chosen above Christians.

Both Jew first and Gentile second in Christ are the chosen ones !!

On the other hand one can be a Jew and not be chosen if you get the gist !



I think you need more research my brother because the Original Jews weren't white just like the Original Egyptians, Black folks got to the Americas before drunken Clolumbus, look it up brother.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Nobody: 8:23pm On Oct 28, 2011
lepasharon:

was christianity not a conspiracy? ^^

Is your mere existence not due to some sort of conspiracy undecided

Abeg talk about what you know grin
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Ndipe(m): 10:02pm On Oct 28, 2011
Great question, I have also wondered the same injustices towards Jews from time immemorial. I admire their resilience despite the trials and tribulations they have gone through.

But another personal question, why are blacks the most despited and relegated race on the face of the earth? We are treated even worse than Jews globally.
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by Kay17: 10:24pm On Oct 28, 2011
Africans just want to be JEWS! lol!

Jews black?! Weed is dangerous.

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Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by FindingMyWay: 6:50pm On Apr 16, 2013
frosbel: Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:

Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."

Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."

Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."

Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."

Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)

Racial Theor[/b]y -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."

As we examine the explanations, we must ask -- Are they the causes for anti-Semitism or excuses for Anti-Semitism? The difference? If one takes away the cause, then anti-Semitism should no longer exist. If one can show a contradiction to the explanation, it demonstrates that the "cause" is not a reason, it is just an excuse. Let's look at some contradictions:

[b]Economic
-- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.

Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.

Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."

Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.

Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."

Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

Every other hated group is hated for a relatively defined reason. We Jews, however, are hated in paradoxes: Jews are hated for being a lazy and inferior race - but also for dominating the economy and taking over the world. We are hated for stubbornly maintaining our separateness - and, when we do assimilate - for posing a threat to racial purity through intermarriages. We are seen as pacifists and as warmongers; as capitalist exploiters and as revolutionary communists; possessed of a Chosen-People mentality, as well as of an inferiority complex. It seems that we just can't win.

Now we know what are NOT the reasons for anti-Semitism.

by: Rabbi Kalman Packouz

1)The truth is in the Torah/Tanakh, for example read Levitcus chapter 26 AND Deuteronomy 28, they are suffering because of righteous judgement by the most high heavenly father for not obey his statutes and commandments.

Levitcus 26
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+26&version=KJV

and

Deuteronomy 28
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2028&version=KJV


These were the curses the most high heavenly further put on the Hebrew Israelites which had a tribe called Judah which and their people were translated in the English as Jew(s) for short...
What most of you do not realise is the true people the bible is talking about is you west africans that lost people to slavery never wonder why your life is such a struggle? here is the answer...the so called white Jews stole the identity of our people but you didn't realise this because the word JEW is an English translation and you do not call yourself by English names...Check out my first post on here for evidence of the identity theft and evidence that the white jews who are not really jews are liars and are not really persecuted the reason they are rich is because they enslaved your people and made 100's of years of free money from them!
Re: Why Have Jews Been Persecuted So Much Throughout History? by mumumugu(m): 9:14pm On Apr 16, 2013
Catholics are jews prosecuted by the likes of frosbel

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