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|Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Nimoomosuli: 8:27am On Dec 12, 2017|
Thought we might all benefit from the information below. It's an eye-opener. Copied as received.
So I ran into some friends who were celebrating the declaration of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel as a fulfillment of a Christian prophesy. Then it hit me that we live in a world ruled by debates about Bobrisky and his Gateman Jacob and so people forget to invest in knowing the truth about serious stuff.
So here are some facts;
Out of the 8.585 million population of Israel Christians constitute 2% of about 169000 unlike is Saudi with a 4.4% Christian population or Jordan with a 4-5% Christian population or Lebanon with a 40.4% Christian population.
Of the 2% Christians in Israel, between 60 - 80% are Arab Christians.
A tiny fraction are Coptic Christians
Jews who believe in Christ are called messianic Jews and are only 15000 in number out of the over 8million population. Several application by Christian Jews to immigrate to Israel has been rejected and you will see why when you read below.
Those who found their way into Israel were still denied citizenship until 2008 when the Supreme Court ruled that people who themselves were never Jews but are descendants of Jews can become citizens. Till date where an adult Jew converts to Christianity just like is the case with any other religion, he or she loses his protection by the state of Israel under the Law of Return.
Jews consider Christians as pagans for their belief in Trinity and claim that God is an Incarnate human who died to forgive sins committed against him. Therefore, Christian Jews who are the most educated in Israel are the most discriminated against.
The law in Israel recognizes the religions of Judaism, Christianity, Islam, the Druze, and the Bahai Faith. Christian religious communities recognized according to the adopted Ottoman millet (court) system include: Eastern Orthodox, Latin (Roman Catholic), Gregorian-Armenian, Armenian Catholic, Syrian Catholic, Chaldean (Chaldean Uniate Catholic), Greek Catholic Melkite, Maronite, Syrian Orthodox, and Evangelical Episcopal. The Anglican and Bahai communities are recognized through a British Mandate-era law adopted by the government. The government does not recognize other religious communities, including major Protestant denominations with a presence in the country, as distinct ethno religious communities. (This is contained in the International Religious Freedom Report issued in 2016 by the US State Department).
All none recognized faiths pay a Property Tax on their places of worship and Jehovah's Witness has been the most hit by these taxes.
Public preaching is only allowed with permit obtained and it is against the law to give gifts while preaching or preach to a person below the age of 18.
13 of the most Senior Christian Leaders in Jerusalem wrote to Trump begging that he does no go ahead with the proclamation he made yesterday and since the announcement the Pope has condemned the decision.
They know that access to Christian holy sites will be under threat once full control is given to Jews whose orthodox sect already spit on them in public for wearing Christian robes.
If you notice this piece does not address whether what Trump did is right or wrong because that is a bigger conversation and I do not believe it matters as Trump only seeks to advance his country's interests based on how he sees them. He, as President is entitled to that just as those affected by the decision are allowed to find sensible ways to protect their interests.
This piece is not a demonstration of hate for Jews! No way!! All you see here can be confirmed as factual from open sources if you just make the little effort of researching.
I merely seek to clarify one point to my friends who feel this declaration is a victory for Christians. It is not! Israel of today is a Jewish state which looks out for one religious group only; Judaism. In fact Israeli Arabs who constitute 18% of the population have fared better in Israel than Christians as there is currently an Arab Israeli Supreme Court Judge and several members of the Knesset who are Muslims. The same cannot be said of Christian Jews and that should be your focus.
We pray for the peace of the world and the unity of its people.
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|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by bedspread: 8:37am On Dec 12, 2017|
ANYTHING U NEED TO KNOW IS IN THE BIBLE....
WHETHER JUDAISM OR CHRISTIANITY, WE ARE THE GENTILES.... and We HAVE BELIEVED THAT THE MESSIAH HAS COME... OUR CONNECTION WITH ISREAL IS MUCH MORE THAN RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS..... ITS A CONNECTION WITH THE COVENANT GOD HAS WITH ABRAMHAM, ISSAC AND JACOB (ISREAL). THATS THE GOD WE KNOW, THATS THE GOD WE SERVE...
No one can Handle Isreal...... No Coalition can Handle Isreal Now..... it will only happen after the Rapture.... and Only wat the Bible says can happen
MAKE UNA LEAVE ISREAL MATTER OOOO....WOE UNTO THEM THAT STRIVE WITH THEIR MAKER...
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by superboyspecial: 9:30am On Dec 12, 2017|
although the bible has gone through a lot of changes in d past and is still undergoing changes now even after the warnings,one part that still sticks to the bible is dat a large population of your *supposed* Jews are going to be saved first before the world...who knows why,everybody worships mostly what he was brought up to,I myself knw dat I wud have been a strong traditional worshipper if I was born b4 dx age so mostly,its just our faith dat matters...it may be a victory quite okay for Christians since Judaism is d root of Christians nd tell me,which tree can stand without its roots?
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 4:41pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Op, thanks. That's eye opener. And we have Christians here wanna die for israel on this issues while Israel doesn't give a fig leaf about them
Here is another opinionated article based on biblical proofs
WHO OWNS JERUSALEM? By Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
When Donald Trump declared his recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, several articles were written to tell the world that Jerusalem does not belong to Israel. The topic, "Who Owns Jerusalem?" is not debatable and will never be. What I will write here to prove who owns Jerusalem is not new except to those who do not know about the Israel-Palestine conflict.
If Israel did not exist as a state from 70AD to 1947 can claim the land of the Palestinians, claiming that they used to be there in ancient times, I think we should give back the land to Canaan/Phoenicia ( which includes Syria and Jordan) if we were to play the "who used to be there" game! The god of the Jews called Canaan, "The Promised Land" making the Jews take lands that were not theirs. It is surprising that such people could come to claim "their land" they were away from for hundreds of years.
Something spectacular about the Jews is how they capture lands that are not theirs, occupy it, re-write history, control the minds of people, consistently appear to be the victim, do they not beat and yet cry? They do all these giving credit to their god, is it not time to ask the god to them a land of their own instead of forcing people out of their lands? One would think that the holocaust is the greatest crime in history but they never talk about their destruction of the Amalekites including children,infants,cattle,sheep,camel and donkeys! how can we trust a people with such barbaric history?
The Jews took the land of Canaan which they saw as the Promised Land. Before then, Philistia which refers to the land of the five lord of Philistines comprised of Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, Gath and GAZA was there and had absorbed into the Canaanite culture. These lords ruled the southern part of Canaan but the Israelites later subdued and conquered them.
The Jews claim Abraham is their father and he was born in Ur of the Chaldees which is in present day Iraq! Maybe the Jews should know where to call their land! Let us now focus on Philistine. Having stated earlier that the Israelites took control of Canaan which they saw as a Promise Land and also conquering Philistia ( Philistine) which is the southern part of Canaan, let us see something interesting.
Abraham, the father of the Jews himself did not step his feet in Israel rather he was a foreigner in the land that was conquered, we wonder how it now belongs to them. Abraham gave birth to Isaac who gave birth to Esau and Jacob ( called Israel). In Geneis 21:22-34, we read about the Treaty at Beersheba.
"22 At that time Abimelek and Phicol the commander of his forces said to Abraham, “God is with you in everything you do. 23 Now swear to me here before God that you will not deal falsely with me or my children or my descendants. Show to me and the country where you now reside as a foreigner the same kindness I have shown to you.”
24 Abraham said, “I swear it.”
One might wonder who is Abimelek but the answer is here,
" 32 After the treaty had been made at Beersheba, Abimelek and Phicol the commander of his forces returned to the land of the Philistines."
Abraham, the father of the Jews swore to Philistines before the advent of the name, "Israel". He (Abraham) was a foreigner in the land of philistine,
"34 And Abraham stayed in the land of the Philistines for a long time."
After Hagar went to the desert with Ishmael, the Bible forgot him like he never existed after going to the desert same way nothing was said about philistine like they ceased to exist.
One might wonder, "what is it about Philistine?". Philistine is the Palestine فلسطين of today. Even though the father of the Jews swore to Palestinians, the children seem to have forgotten this. Many Palestinians today are living as refugees in their own land while the children of Abraham are living as children in a land where there father lived as a foreigner. The Lord is Good,innit?
In Shaa Allah, I will write next on, |"Jerusalam - Politics and Religion"
Bashir Lucas Samson Lukman
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|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 5:11pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Funny these people also charge their "jizya" (tax impose on non citizens) on non-recognized state religions like Jehova and others while they focused on Islam. Maybe the guy named usermane needs to see this
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by danvon(m): 5:27pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Jews spit on Christians https://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 6:59pm On Dec 12, 2017|
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Evangkatsoulis: 7:21pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Una try well well
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 8:05pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree:When King David and Solomon were Kings in Jerusalem, were was Muhammad?
Muslims trying to steal from the Israelites since Hagar the slave girl.
It was prophesied that the Gentiles shall trample over the Holy City of Jerusalem for a period of time, islam with their idol, allah, have done that, but their time to get out of there is drawing close.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 8:07pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree:Just like you are killing people for islam while your Nigerian Muslim brothers are being sold off like goats into slavery in Libya by arab Muslims.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 8:09pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree:Inferiority complex. An Arab will forever be jealous and inferior to a Jew.
No matter how much you hate them, dem pass you.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by AlBaqir(m): 8:30pm On Dec 12, 2017|
# Why don't you think about "yourself". The Jew "prosecuted and killed" your Lord and saviour. Jews NEVER for once accepted Jesus as anything. Still, Jews never recognised Christianity or Bible rather Jews continue to be number Christian's haters. What will Christianity history become should the zionist Jews wield maximum power?
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 8:35pm On Dec 12, 2017|
analize701:A question is, why are you insecure? .
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by alBHAGDADI: 8:59pm On Dec 12, 2017|
AlBaqir:You Islamists need to know that your antics to make Christians hate Jews won't work.
Even thought Jews killed Jesus Christ, we can never hate them cos our Lord Jesus Christ forgave them right when they were on the act. Since Christianity means christ-like, every true Christian acts like Jesus by forgiving and loving the Jews cos we know that they did what they did in error and for our own good.
Only Satan's children hate the Jews.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by alBHAGDADI: 9:01pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree has finally recovered a bit from the tears and sadness the shocking news of Jerusalem brought him and his Muslim world.
More shock to come.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 10:14pm On Dec 12, 2017|
analize701:And your christian brothers are free of sex trafficking and children slave trade?
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by joshnes(m): 10:29pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree so, in that article, you're saying the Israelites taking Jerusalem from Canaan was wrong, but Palestine taking it from the Israelites is right and now the Israelites trying to take it back from Palestine is now wrong? Sentiments all over that article. Try harder.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by nicemuyoo: 10:29pm On Dec 12, 2017|
The correct question is who are the true Israelites?
The Europeans you see in Isreal today are not Israelites they are Israelis. They live in the land of Isreal!. They are not Israelites bloodline of Isaac and Jacob.
European jews are khazars of the great khazar empire who coverted to judiasm as a nation to avoid christianity and islam.
This khazars (white jews) have never been slaves in there lives they are great warriors . War is in their DNA.
They are of the great warrior khazar empire. They don't speak Hebrew as their native language. Their native language is Yiddish a combination of german/ hungarian etc languages. They learn Hebrew in school like a Muslim would learn Arabic in school.
HENRY FORD billionaire owner of ford motors published this information that the european jews are not Israelites of the bible. ( the international jew)
Prof. Shlomo Sand a Jewish professor emeritus of tel Aviv university a specialist in Jews history after years of research he said he could no long keep living in isreal without saying the truth. wrote a book on it to proof they are not Israelites of the bible ( the invention of the jewish people) I have the book at home.
Arthur Koestler a Jewish millionaire writer in UK wrote about it. published a book about the origin of his ancestors stating clearly with proof that jews are not Israelites of the bible.(The thirteenth tribe)
An ISREALITE is black e.g.. Ethiopian jew are black, they are not Europeans.
Black Americans are Israelites, lamba people, Congo, Nigeria, Benin, to go, senegal, sudan etc have Israelites amongst them. Not all blacks are Israelites. That is why Nigerian official flag before independence had an ISREALITE seal on it. The British put it there because there are Israelites indigenous to Nigeria population.
Surprise!!!! Go do your research.
This is the biggest IDENTITY THEFT IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by akeensbussy(m): 11:23pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Remember...Aunty KEMI is still in the prison because a christian refused to forgive her..
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 11:51pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree:You'd have to post where Christ commanded them to do that, while i post where Muhammed commanded you to do what Libyans are doing.
New Living Translation.
The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching.
My God is against slave traders, So that your link is talking about you not Christians.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 11:55pm On Dec 12, 2017|
Empiree:Insecure about Muslims feeling inferior to the Jews and Christians? hahahahahahahahahaha. I trust you don't know what insecurity means.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 12:02am On Dec 13, 2017|
AlBaqir:Lolzzzz. You read the Bible but deliberately jump over certain vital issues in it abi?
If you read the Bible for knowledge, you'd have known why they don't believe in Christ YET. And why they persecute Christians for now. But, am even yet to feel their persecution compared to what islam is doing.
Listen, No man could kill my Savior, he laid down his life by Himself. Unlike muhammed who was killed by a mere girl.
Good News Translation John 10:18
No one takes my life away from me. I give it up of my own free will. I have the right to give it up, and I have the right to take it back. This is what my Father has commanded me to do.”
l laf you in Arabic
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 12:19am On Dec 13, 2017|
analize701:i won't allow you to drag me to your low level. Focus on this topic.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 12:31am On Dec 13, 2017|
analize701:Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them
A few weeks ago, a senior Greek Orthodox clergyman in Israel attended a meeting at a government office in Jerusalem's Givat Shaul quarter. When he returned to his car, an elderly man wearing a skullcap came and knocked on the window. When the clergyman let the window down, the passerby spat in his face.
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 12:33am On Dec 13, 2017|
analize701:Jerusalem's Christian Leaders to Trump: Recognition Will Cause 'Irreparable Damage'
Heads of local churches express concern over reports on his expected Jerusalem policy change; 'the Holy City can be shared'
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.827207
read more: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.827207
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 12:45am On Dec 13, 2017|
Empiree:I didn't see this in the covenant or the prophecies, so it won't happen.
Many are the devices in a man heart, nevertheless, the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand.
Cry my a river, what YHWH wants is what will happen.
Hear me again, I'd rather die in the hands of jew than be injured by a dirty unclean philistine called a muslim.
A fly is more valued than you.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by Empiree: 12:47am On Dec 13, 2017|
alBHAGDADI:Here is a 1 minute clip. Hate crimes against christians in Jerusalem by Jews. Here is graffiti they wrote on the wall.."Your Jesus is garbage. Death to Arabs and christians" written by orthodox Jews
You are confused. You don't know your priority
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 12:49am On Dec 13, 2017|
Empiree:Shey it's only Spit they spit on Christians? Spitting and beheading which is worst? If it's only Spitting Muslims spit on us in Nigeria (as much as their smell smell deadly), we won't be were we are now.
Gerarahia terrorist. Your propaganda no dey work for here.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 12:51am On Dec 13, 2017|
Empiree:You wish you have any level for that matter. What level will a Muslim have? ewww.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by analize701: 1:29am On Dec 13, 2017|
akeensbussy:I can't believe you low lives wants Christians to join you and hate the Jews, after all you terrorists do to us. lolzzzz. Not in a thousandth life times will that happen.
|Re: Expose About Israel And Palestine - What You Need To Know Before Taking Sides by AlBaqir(m): 4:41am On Dec 13, 2017|
Of Biblical Jesus's own freewill? Somebody wey no wan die!!!!
# At the last hour, biblical Jesus cried out
Matthew 27:46 reads:
At about three o'clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" which means "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?"
# Before that last hour, he was busy praying fervently:
"Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, “Sit here, while I go over there and pray.” And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.” And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”
# So, where was biblical Jesus freewill here?! Obviously someone in this biblical character is lying and gullible Christians continue to chop am.
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