The bible answers most questions about good and bad but there seems to be some areas where the bible is silent or not perfectly clear.
Here are a few examples.
1. Slavery
2. War crimes
3. Gambling
4. Consumption of intoxicants
You can add to the list.
What do you think.

tctrills:
The bible answers most questions about good and bad but there seems to be some areas where the bible is silent or not perfectly clear.
Here are a few examples.
1. Slavery
2. War crimes
3. Gambling
4. Consumption of intoxicants
You can add to the list.
What do you think.

Go and study your Bible very well. Love is the summary of it all.

Where love is abundant those vices you mentioned will expire.

Felimax:


Go and study your Bible very well. Love is the summary of it all.

Where love is abundant those vices you mentioned will expire.

Not really sir. Many of the vices mentioned above were practiced in bible times. The apostles even casted lots? The moral question of gambling was not addressed.
Again questions like marrying underaged was never addressed in the bible.

Does the bible teach against marrying minors?
Did christians in other centuries marry girls younger than 18? Is it immoral to do so?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.John 3:16

This answers it all but unless true disciples of Christ TEACH you there's no way you can grasp what is happening.

From Genesis to Revelations no human qualifies for everlasting life except Jesus of Nazareth so even though many will be resurrected during Christ's thousand years reign they must become perfect like Jesus before they can be granted everlasting life in Paradise {Revelations 20:5-6} only BORN AGAIN Christians are free from accusations as they will no longer live in the flesh as humans but they will be transformed into angels! Luke 20:34-36
Slavery
War Crimes
Gambling
Marrying underage
Jesus never got involved in any of these, as for intoxicants it's never a sin unless taking excessively.

MaxInDHouse:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.John 3:16

This answers it all but unless true disciples of Christ TEACH you there's no way you can grasp what is happening.

From Genesis to Revelations no human qualifies for everlasting life except Jesus of Nazareth so even though many will be resurrected during Christ's thousand years reign they must become perfect like Jesus before they can be granted everlasting life in Paradise {Revelations 20:5-6} only BORN AGAIN Christians are free from accusations as they will no longer live in the flesh as humans but they will be transformed into angels! Luke 20:34-36
Slavery
War Crimes
Gambling
Marrying underage
Jesus never got involved in any of these, as for intoxicants it's never a sin unless taking excessively.

Is it ok to take cocaine if not taking excessively?
Also, did the bible ever condemn Slavery, Gambling or underage marriage?

tctrills:

Is it ok to take cocaine if not taking excessively?

Cocaine was discovered for a purpose but it's those abusing it that's wrong not the product on its own.

tctrills:

Also, did the bible ever condemn Slavery, Gambling or underage marriage?

All these are the result of rebellion against God so he never set rules regarding it until Jesus came and began living his life free from slavery, gambling and underage marriage.
Note that Jesus never handled money throughout his earthly ministry.
Do you why?
It's because those three you mentioned above comes from the use of money Jesus never had a slave because he didn't have any money to buy one so he does everything all by himself.
He never gambled because he doesn't want to have anything to do with greed.
He never married because marriage belongs only to those who knows the purpose of marriage not just anyone. His life will soon end and he must return to his abode so there's no one to whom he will shift the responsibility.

Just continue studying Jesus you will understand so many things about God's will for mankind. Hebrews 12:2

MaxInDHouse:

Cocaine was discovered for a purpose but it's those abusing it that's wrong not the product on its own.

All these are the result of rebellion against God so he never set rules regarding it until Jesus came and began living his life free from slavery, gambling and underage marriage.
Note that Jesus never handled money throughout his earthly ministry.
Do you why?
It's because those three you mentioned above comes from the use of money Jesus never had a slave because he didn't have any money to buy one so he does everything all by himself.
He never gambled because he doesn't want to have anything to do with greed.
He never married because marriage belongs only to those who knows the purpose of marriage not just anyone. His life will soon end and he must return to his abode so there's no one to whom he will shift the responsibility.

Just continue studying Jesus you will understand so many things about God's will for mankind. Hebrews 12:2

So you will take cocaine as long as you don't over do it ok.
As for underaged marriage, you claim it's as a result of rebellion against God, do you have that written in your scripture or is it a personal opinion?
And how do you know that Jesus never handled money, that again is your opinion.
One can also say that Timothy never handled money or Thomas never handled money. Unless it's revealed, you are only expressing an opinion not a truth.

tctrills:

So you will take cocaine as long as you don't over do it ok.
As for underaged marriage, you claim it's as a result of rebellion against God, do you have that written in your scripture or is it a personal opinion?
And how do you know that Jesus never handled money, that again is your opinion.
One can also say that Timothy never handled money or Thomas never handled money. Unless it's revealed, you are only expressing an opinion not a truth.

Food we consume contains iron does that mean you can swallow an iron rod?
If everyone is living fine as in OK do you think someone will give out his underage daughter in marriage? There must be mutual agreement between the two before marriage so both must have become adults! 1Corinthians 7:36-39
According to what happened in the ministry Jesus kept the money bag with Judas Iscariot {John 12:6} and when he was caught unaware to pay the temple tax he told his disciples to go and get a fish then use the money found in the mouth of the fish to pay. Of course Jesus doesn't handle money otherwise he will have something in his pocket to pay that's why he referred to money as unrighteous Mammon. Luke 16:9

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Food we consume contains iron does that mean you can swallow an iron rod?
This is why you think taking a little cocaine is ok?

If everyone is living fine as in OK do you think someone will give out his underage daughter in marriage? There must be mutual agreement between the two before marriage so both must have become adults! 1Corinthians 7:36-39
Please explain how this helps your point. Still I disagree with you. We have examples of wealthy princesses marrying at the age of 14. So it's not about poverty.

According to what happened in the ministry Jesus kept the money bag with Judas Iscariot {John 12:6} and when he was caught unaware to pay the temple tax he told his disciples to go and get a fish then use the money found in the mouth of the fish to pay. Of course Jesus doesn't handle money otherwise he will have something in his pocket to pay that's why he referred to money as unrighteous Mammon. Luke 16:9[/
His disciples did not have money in their pocket at that time either, does that mean that they too did not handle money. Just because one doesn't have money at a particular time is no argument that he has never handled money.
If Jesus Christ did not touch money because it was unrighteous, why would he ask his disciples to handle it for him? How does that make sense. If you stay away from unrighteousness, would you ask your children to handle the unrighteousness on your behalf?

tctrills:

This is why you think taking a little cocaine is ok?

If it's prescribed by a certified physician there nothing wrong as long as it's meant for the well being of the patient! 1Timothy 5:23

tctrills:

Please explain how this helps your point. Still I disagree with you. We have examples of wealthy princesses marrying at the age of 14. So it's not about poverty.

God's word says those contemplating marriage must have passed the bloom of youth meaning they must be adults and in this case Paul said the woman should be the sole determinant of her own partner not the other way around! 1 Corinthians 7:36-39
So underage marriage is unchristian!

tctrills:

His disciples did not have money in their pocket at that time either, does that mean that they too did not handle money. Just because one doesn't have money at a particular time is no argument that he has never handled money.
If Jesus Christ did not touch money because it was unrighteous, why would he ask his disciples to handle it for him? How does that make sense. If you stay away from unrighteousness, would you ask your children to handle the unrighteousness on your

You love misquoting people.
Go back to what i posted "during his earthly ministry" that doesn't mean he never handled money nah after all he was a carpenter of course he will be paid for his service as one nah!
What i'm saying is that Jesus made his disciples realize that money comes with unrighteousness all the atrocities committed on this planet is linked directly or indirectly to the love of money {1Timothy 6:7-11} in God's kingdom we will not need money anymore as everything will be shared equally no matter what you think about yourself! Matthew 20:1-15

tctrills:
The bible answers most questions about good and bad but there seems to be some areas where the bible is silent or not perfectly clear.
Here are a few examples.
1. Slavery
2. War crimes
3. Gambling
4. Consumption of intoxicants
You can add to the list.
What do you think.

The bible answered slavery
God never approved slavery which is why He was the first to free slaves eg if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15. And abolish it by making Laws which strangle slavery
e.g.
2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"

Which is why you do not see any jew keeping a slave by the time David became king.

It also answered war crimes Deuteronomy 20 and 21.

And for gambling Proverbs 13:11/ 16/8

The bible does answer all.

Dtruthspeaker:


The bible answered slavery
God never approved slavery which is why He was the first to free slaves eg if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15. And abolish it by making Laws which strangle slavery
e.g.
2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) Exodus 23:2 "Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil:"

7) Exodus 23:6 "Thou shalt not wrest the judgement of thy poor in his cause"

Which is why you do not see any jew keeping a slave by the time David became king.

It also answered war crimes Deuteronomy 20 and 21.

And for gambling Proverbs 13:11/ 16/8

The bible does answer all.

Let's talk about slavery,
Please read Numbers 31:17
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

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If it's prescribed by a certified physician there nothing wrong as long as it's meant for the well being of the patient! 1Timothy 5:23

What if it's not prescribed. Do you take only prescribed alcohol?

God's word says those contemplating marriage must have [b]passed the bloom of youth meaning they must be adults and in this case Paul said the woman should be the sole determinant of her own partner not the other way around! 1 Corinthians 7:36-39
So underage marriage is unchristian![/b]

The verse you quoted says nothing about being pass the bloom of youth before marriage. Please read before you quote.
This is what it said: 36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.

You love misquoting people.
Go back to what i posted [b]"during his earthly ministry" that doesn't mean he never handled money nah after all he was a carpenter of course he will be paid for his service as one nah!
What i'm saying is that Jesus made his disciples realize that money comes with unrighteousness all the atrocities committed on this planet is linked directly or indirectly to the love of money {1Timothy 6:7-11} in God's kingdom we will not need money anymore as everything will be shared equally no matter what you think about yourself! Matthew 20:1-15
So what does this have to do with gambling?

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Note that Jesus never handled money throughout his earthly ministry.
Do you why?
It's because those three you mentioned above comes from the use of money

You said I misquoted you and you denied saying that Jesus never handled money, well here are your very words. You were not misquoted sir. You were quoted word for word.

tctrills:

Let's talk about slavery,
Please read Numbers 31:17
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Verse 14/15 shows you that that was a disobedience to The Commandment.

And nevertheless they are to abide with The Law of
2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15.

So these captured persons have a right to escape and should they not escape them God has pronounced that they must be treated rightly as they dwell in the land.

Dtruthspeaker:


Verse 14/15 shows you that that was a disobedience to The Commandment.

And nevertheless they are to abide with The Law of
2) Leviticus 25:17 "Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God:"

3) Exodus 23:9 "Thou shalt not oppress a stranger:

4) Exodus 20:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger nor oppress him:

5) Exodus 20:22 "ye shall not afflict ...a fatherless child".

6) if a slave escapes do not return him. Deuteronomy 23:15.

Oga it was God that commanded them to kill everyone and divide the virgins among themselves. That would be called child slavery or sex slavery in our world today.

tctrills:

Oga it was God that commanded them to kill everyone and divide the virgins among themselves. That would be called child slavery or sex slavery in our world today.

God's Command was clear kill everyone, so clearly, that was an act of Moses. Gods own was that they should have been wiped out like Sodom and Gomorah and we won't have had you talking rubbish.

Dtruthspeaker:


God's Command was clear kill everyone, so clearly, that was an act of Moses. Gods own was that they should have been wiped out like Sodom and Gomorah and we won't have had you talking rubbish.

And God instructed them to divide the virgins among themselves.
I know you hate reading so I have copied and pasted here for you. If you like don't read. I have also highlighted the phase for you.

Numbers 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.

tctrills:

And God instructed them to divide the virgins among themselves.
I know you hate reading so I have copied and pasted here for you. If you like don't read. I have also highlighted the phase for you.

Numbers 31
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves

19 And do ye abide without the camp seven days: whosoever hath killed any person, and whosoever hath touched any slain, purify both yourselves and your captives on the third day, and on the seventh day.

If you indeed had read you would have seen thst it is Moses who spoke this. See what you failed to read

[b]15 And Moses said unto them, [/b]Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him....

Dtruthspeaker:


If you indeed had read you would have seen thst it is Moses who spoke this. See what you failed to read

[b]15 And Moses said unto them, [/b]Have ye saved all the women alive?

16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him....

So we are saying the same thing right? The men of Israel were instructed to share the virgin children among themselves or isn't that what happened?

tctrills:

So we are saying the same thing right? The men of Israel were instructed to share the virgin children among themselves or isn't that what happened?

No!

You said "God instructed them" whereas it was Moses.

O Lord please come and end all these and take vengeance upon all these blasphemous people. Amen

Veecruz:


No!

You said "God instructed them" whereas it was Moses.

O Lord please come and end all these and take vengeance upon all these blasphemous people. Amen

Oh so Moses a prophet of the most high would order sex slavery against the will of God?
God does not allow his prophets lead his children to sin.
Please start studying your Bible.

tctrills:

Oh so Moses a prophet of the most high would order sex slavery against the will of God?
God does not allow his prophets lead his children to sin
Please start studying your Bible.

If you had studied the bible you would have seen that they would have been killed for having sex with their slaves which is what Moses and the soldiers knew in ensuring no sex slavery occured. So you are talking nonsense.

O Lord avenge thyself of all who blaspheme thy Holiness and this world that the evils we see, we shall see them no more!

Veecruz:


If you had studied the bible you would have seen that they would have been killed for having sex with their slaves which is what Moses and the soldiers knew in ensuring no sex slavery occured. So you are talking nonsense.

O Lord avenge thyself of all who blaspheme thy Holiness and this world that the evils we see, we shall see them no more!

Who is this one. Please quote rather that writing your opinion or run off when intelligent people are chatting.
You are accusing me of blasphemy as if I am the one that wrote the bible. I only quoted from it so blame Moses for writing it not me.

tctrills:

Who is this one. Please quote rather that writing your opinion or run off when intelligent people are chatting.
You are accusing me of blasphemy as if I am the one that wrote the bible. I only quoted from it so blame Moses for writing it not me.

One idiot blasphemer still blasphemed God even when the bible was not written and he got what he deserved. If you like do not fear God and read the bible, you have severally blasphemed God and you will get your deserved punishments for each and every one of them.

Veecruz:


One idiot blasphemer still blasphemed God even when the bible was not written and he got what he deserved. If you like do not fear God and read the bible, you have severally blasphemed God and you will get your deserved punishments for each and every one of them.

Oga we all need to fear God and repent of our sins but it's clear you don't know the meaning of blasphemy. Quoting from the bible is not blasphemy. The problem with you the average Nairaland christian is that you don't read your Bible. You depend on your pastor to tell you what's in the book then you come here to insult people who actually study their bible and expose your stupidity.
If you want to discuss the bible, great let's have it but don't pretend to have a moral superiority when in reality you are an empty barrel.

tctrills:

Oga we all need to fear God and repent of our sins but it's clear you don't know the meaning of blasphemy. Quoting from the bible is not blasphemy. The problem with you the average Nairaland christian is that you don't read your Bible. You depend on your pastor to tell you what's in the book then you come here to insult people who actually study their bible and expose your stupidity.
If you want to discuss the bible, great let's have it but don't pretend to have a moral superiority when in reality you are an empty barrel.

Does God not see your heart? Even I know your evil blasphemous mind how much more God.

Any way it all ends with God destroying enemies like you.

Veecruz:


Does God not see your heart? Even I know your evil blasphemous mind how much more God.

Any way it all ends with God destroying enemies like you.

You know nothing. You have been programed to have a very narrow dirty mind. You are a typical Nairaland christian who lacks wisdom and knowledge and sees every other person as an enemy.
I advise you to go offline for 6 months and spend that time studying your Bible. I promise you will return a better man.