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Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by obedience4(m): 10:14pm On Nov 15, 2023
EDUECO:

America fan boys would never agree that China is already the world leader in every sector.

China is the current leader in modern science and technology.

Made in China is predominant in every continent of the world including Europe and North America.


Made in China, doesn't always means technology in China,
Some one like you don't know that a Taiwan company foxtoon,makes iPhones for apple in its factory in China, carrying a made in China doesn't means much when you don't have rights to the technological components,
For example 80% of Tesla electric cars are made in it's factory in shanghai, they are,about 7 electric cars brand in China along,
Why does the American owned electric car's Tesla sells more than the others?
Are they both not made in China?
China is the manufacturing hub of the world,
It's, leverage on its young skilled work force and cheap labour


Please tell us the sector that Chiba is leading the USA?

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Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by obedience4(m): 10:21pm On Nov 15, 2023
Bigchristo:
US will be acting arrogant like we don’t need any country to survive but they still in business with Russia till date buying uranium and this is another example that the US needs Chinese trade etc, but millions of their gullible supporters think US is fighting for the interests of any country, just keep deceiving yourselves US care about their country’s interests than they care about anyone out there.

Dude don't you know that trade is a two way thing,
You claim that the USA needs China trade, as if the Chinese don't need the USA trade,
For over 5yrs running China has export more to the USA than the USA have imported to China.
Both countries trade last year was almost an excess of one trillion dollars combined,
This was even after trade embargo place by both countries,
The key is this, the USA may to some extent find a alternative market for China,
But China can never replace the USA markets.

Google is,your friend, go and read USA China trade amd see for yourself
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Bigchristo: 10:58pm On Nov 15, 2023
obedience4:


Dude don't you know that trade is a two way thing,
You claim that the USA needs China trade, as if the Chinese don't need the USA trade,
For over 5yrs running China has export more to the USA than the USA have imported to China.
Both countries trade last year was almost an excess of one trillion dollars combined,
This was even after trade embargo place by both countries,
The key is this, the USA may to some extent find a alternative market for China,
But China can never replace the USA markets.

Google is,your friend, go and read USA China trade amd see for yourself
You think China can’t get alternative trade? Just Dey play China have the strongest economy in the world right now and they are in business with almost all countries, depending on what they’re dealing with you, all the sanctions US placed on China aren’t working because China is too big for them to isolate.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by rickleye: 11:51pm On Nov 15, 2023
Uptownerd:
Another uneventful meeting that is going to end with Xi Jinping embarrassing Joe Biden on the biggest stage yet again. President Xi would rather have a 24/7 siesta, but the show must go on.

China has refused any military talks between the two countries because USA just have nothing to say than give orders and ultimatum even as they know that it is meaningless.

With Huawei breaking the chip barrier for the Chinese government, give it 3-6years and China will confidently take a hit to completely decouple from the USA and be the centre piece of its Belt and Road initiative. With Russia's energy and military might, the multipolar new world order will sweep across the global south.

I just hope Nigerians would have taken back their country from the thief's by then. It would be very sad for a new world order to emerge and as usual, Nigerians will be left behind.




If China had nothing to loose why on earth would President Xi leave his country and fly 10 hours to SAN Fran ? The world needs both super powers to keep dialogue open and try .
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by ponziponzi(m): 11:57pm On Nov 15, 2023
richeeyo:

According to imf
Nigeria should have collapsed grin grin

Nigeria has collapsed.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by richeeyo(m): 12:07am On Nov 16, 2023
ponziponzi:


Nigeria has collapsed.
I can't laugh abeg
True though
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by nomolos92: 12:57am On Nov 16, 2023
Xi is the smartest leader in the world

Nobody's enemy and nobody's friend, a good businessman, that's why China keeps progressing
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by bdon123(m): 3:25am On Nov 16, 2023
EDUECO:
He is the real leader of the modern world!

Don't be deceived by the media,the USA respects Xi Jinping!

China is the greatest country at the moment!!!
Yes very true. World trade is in d hands of china.most items used in us are made in china.even us built tins outsource their manpower to local chinese

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Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by EDUECO(m): 4:40am On Nov 16, 2023
obedience4:



Made in China, doesn't always means technology in China,
Some one like you don't know that a Taiwan company foxtoon,makes iPhones for apple in its factory in China, carrying a made in China doesn't means much when you don't have rights to the technological components,
For example 80% of Tesla electric cars are made in it's factory in shanghai, they are,about 7 electric cars brand in China along,
Why does the American owned electric car's Tesla sells more than the others?
Are they both not made in China?
China is the manufacturing hub of the world,
It's, leverage on its young skilled work force and cheap labour


Please tell us the sector that Chiba is leading the USA?
India as a country has cheaper labour and has more population than China

So,why is India not the manufacturing hub of the world?

China is simply the manufacturing hub of the world because it is the most efficient in virtually every sector you can think of.

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Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by EDUECO(m): 4:48am On Nov 16, 2023
viodemus:




I no too get your time today.

But even their high end products, are still subpar.

Overall, I will take china over middle east, even though I know that china is stealing all the resources in Africa, way more than the Europeans did.

Overall, the Chinese want to go to American universities or American training, over theirs, with all the engineers and scientists.

Guy, levels dey.

to be continued when I get time.
You mean Made in China Huawei, iPhone,solar panels,et cetera are of low quality?
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Caseless: 5:05am On Nov 16, 2023
FamTomx2:
Putin oh ! Sidon there dey romance Hamas, Come nd c how world powers plays politics 😲😲😲😲


Us and China alliance na bomb!!


Respect to 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳
You think China is not closer to Russia than It's to America? China won't trust America. They're trying to keep an enemy closer here.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Caseless: 5:06am On Nov 16, 2023
EDUECO:

You mean Made in China Huawei, iPhone,solar panels,et cetera are of low quality?

Americans sef know what Huawei is made of.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Caseless: 5:12am On Nov 16, 2023
Uptownerd:
Another uneventful meeting that is going to end with Xi Jinping embarrassing Joe Biden on the biggest stage yet again. President Xi would rather have a 24/7 siesta, but the show must go on.

China has refused any military talks between the two countries because USA just have nothing to say than give orders and ultimatum even as they know that it is meaningless.

With Huawei breaking the chip barrier for the Chinese government, give it 3-6years and China will confidently take a hit to completely decouple from the USA and be the centre piece of its Belt and Road initiative. With Russia's energy and military might, the multipolar new world order will sweep across the global south.

I just hope Nigerians would have taken back their country from the thief's by then. It would be very sad for a new world order to emerge and as usual, Nigerians will be left behind.



This really took them unaware. The Americans didn't know how to even react. The congress had to convene when mate 60 came with a 5G.

Lithography providers in Netherlands and Taiwan were hit because they want to please america. The american chipmakers do not have a bigger buyer than china, now they're struggling.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Uptownerd: 7:17am On Nov 16, 2023
Caseless:
This really took them unaware. The Americans didn't know how to even react. The congress had to convene when mate 60 came with a 5G.

Lithography providers in Netherlands and Taiwan were hit because they want to please america. The american chipmakers do not have a bigger buyer than china, now they're struggling.

And when you add China's industrial scaling capacity to the equation... grin
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Gift96: 8:29am On Nov 16, 2023
Aareakinwunmi:
They need each other.
After all the US sanctions that didn't work. It shows China is stronger
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by viodemus: 12:41pm On Nov 16, 2023
EDUECO:

You mean Made in China Huawei, iPhone,solar panels,et cetera are of low quality?




I dey tell you.

Not for rigorous or long term use.
Then they lack some details that before trump America, use to consider.

They are good for now, but not that durable.


When I get time, we can delve into longer scenarios. But just to highlight some scenarios of how they absolve themselves from the engineering details that they lack. An example of a parallel engineering oversight or naivety or lack of knowledge from china. Did you know that, for a long time, America and uk and other nato members, could detect chinese most advanced subs on many levels - deep water acoustics, displacement, communication signals to their military A.I encoder, and on a basic level, by trailing the rust, and the rust inhibitor materials, due to it getting compromised by the sea water in motion or at a dock. In motion, they could trail it for miles, almost like foot tracks.

The consequences of that, is that, in a war that had, say a two day window, as in a 2 day of serious ratcheting tension and fiverish movement of equipments, - do you know, if america decides or china strikes first, almost all the chinese ships might be gone on day 1 or by the 1st week for sure. Their drone ships are plastics, america just need to flood the waters with plastic eating chemicals, then after the war, clean it up for a year. some oil mixed with some types of accelerants, can permeate those plastics, and render them useless. Their metal will be eaten by sea water, and if they are shooting high temperature projectiles from those ships, they will accelerate the corrosion or oxygen pitting or other damages to it.

China has the most war ships, but they try not to set them to the sea too much, instead, they have turned many of them to some sort of offensive and defensive silos, by ringing them around their shores. Their ships are limited to short distances for the most part. Their cargo ship, which they mostly cooperate with Germany, and Netherlands and even America, with limited tech transfer, the cargo ship can do a back and forth, but it is almost an overhaul after that, so what they used to do, was, make so many of the same kind, so that parts and overhaul can be quickly overhauled, with little disruptions, Which is creative, others used to do it, even Russia; but now, they have gone the extra mile to do the geometric engineering - internal and external, electronics, and the coating and adhesion properties, engine, etc. In a war, nobody will give them that allowance to go and swap here and there, without destruction. America, uk, nato, and years of foresight, have made progress in these areas, even A.I solutions to these problems, hasn't saved china designers and builders yet. Everytime, they step on the sea, no matter how secretive, - the South Korea, japan, Philippines, Indonesia, are aware. That thing frustrates china, that is why they decided to get really deadly with long range missiles, which has so much problems for them, but they are trying. It is a road that America's 50s, 60s, and 70s, generation did for them. They have so much missiles, and have the most practical and simulated samples and datas, to guide them to build even better.


you dun dey make me write epistle, but I haven't even gone into various sectors and industries, that highlight their weaknesses, even though, every machine - no matter how good - has weaknesses. We have not gotten to the nitty gritty types of weapons delivery and the flaws, plus insight knowledge(spies - humans and electronics), and other factors in numerous sectors.

Of course they have their own tricks up their sleeves, but their flaws due to shortcuts are blaring to keen eyes.


An American general once said, he can't underestimate the quality of Chinese arsenals, because eventhough, they are most times substandard, like most other substandard chinese products, they work well, the first time. Believe it or not, that is what china is banking on, that's why they make many of the same thing.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Tiopii: 1:01pm On Nov 16, 2023
YourNextLevel:


All these Nairaland kids


I Used to come here to laugh out


Back to the point, Biden couldn't trap China with the chip (electronic ) war even with the open source (OS) - google , they developed theirs now and the EU guys wants Pipeline restored from Russia, US has no much friends in Asia for the Taiwan war and Taiwan doesn't want their chip factory blown up nor shipped to Texas, Tx labour union doesn't want the chip factory because the work force will be imported from Taiwan, US doesn't have many qualified works in that type of factory etc
Just a lot to say but these kids are uninformed


Eyaah😂😂😂😂😂😂.

Most informed
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Tiopii: 1:29pm On Nov 16, 2023
rickleye:


If China had nothing to loose why on earth would President Xi leave his country and fly 10 hours to SAN Fran ? The world needs both super powers to keep dialogue open and try .

Leave them, cos of the US free media, we know the problems of the US and think it's exclusive to only them.
China has problems too, their biggest market is the US, there's nothing China has that India doesn't have. A closer relationship between the US and India is detrimental to China's interest. no nation in the World can ignore the US.
The US has started moving certain industries from China to the US and India has showed willingness to forge closer ties with the US.

People like to ignore how the US de industrializing itself and industrializing China isn't responsible for China's growth. we might argue but the Chinese are not stupid, conflict is normal but it's resolution is equally normal.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by EDUECO(m): 5:12pm On Nov 16, 2023
viodemus:




I dey tell you.

Not for rigorous or long term use.
Then they lack some details that before trump America, use to consider.

They are good for now, but not that durable.


When I get time, we can delve into longer scenarios. But just to highlight some scenarios of how they absolve themselves from the engineering details that they lack. An example of a parallel engineering oversight or naivety or lack of knowledge from china. Did you know that, for a long time, America and uk and other nato members, could detect chinese most advanced subs on many levels - deep water acoustics, displacement, communication signals to their military A.I encoder, and on a basic level, by trailing the rust, and the rust inhibitor materials, due to it getting compromised by the sea water in motion or at a dock. In motion, they could trail it for miles, almost like foot tracks.

The consequences of that, is that, in a war that had, say a two day window, as in a 2 day of serious ratcheting tension and fiverish movement of equipments, - do you know, if america decides or china strikes first, almost all the chinese ships might be gone on day 1 or by the 1st week for sure. Their drone ships are plastics, america just need to flood the waters with plastic eating chemicals, then after the war, clean it up for a year. some oil mixed with some types of accelerants, can permeate those plastics, and render them useless. Their metal will be eaten by sea water, and if they are shooting high temperature projectiles from those ships, they will accelerate the corrosion or oxygen pitting or other damages to it.

China has the most war ships, but they try not to set them to the sea too much, instead, they have turned many of them to some sort of offensive and defensive silos, by ringing them around their shores. Their ships are limited to short distances for the most part. Their cargo ship, which they mostly cooperate with Germany, and Netherlands and even America, with limited tech transfer, the cargo ship can do a back and forth, but it is almost an overhaul after that, so what they used to do, was, make so many of the same kind, so that parts and overhaul can be quickly overhauled, with little disruptions, Which is creative, others used to do it, even Russia; but now, they have gone the extra mile to do the geometric engineering - internal and external, electronics, and the coating and adhesion properties, engine, etc. In a war, nobody will give them that allowance to go and swap here and there, without destruction. America, uk, nato, and years of foresight, have made progress in these areas, even A.I solutions to these problems, hasn't saved china designers and builders yet. Everytime, they step on the sea, no matter how secretive, - the South Korea, japan, Philippines, Indonesia, are aware. That thing frustrates china, that is why they decided to get really deadly with long range missiles, which has so much problems for them, but they are trying. It is a road that America's 50s, 60s, and 70s, generation did for them. They have so much missiles, and have the most practical and simulated samples and datas, to guide them to build even better.


you dun dey make me write epistle, but I haven't even gone into various sectors and industries, that highlight their weaknesses, even though, every machine - no matter how good - has weaknesses. We have not gotten to the nitty gritty types of weapons delivery and the flaws, plus insight knowledge(spies - humans and electronics), and other factors in numerous sectors.

Of course they have their own tricks up their sleeves, but their flaws due to shortcuts are blaring to keen eyes.


An American general once said, he can't underestimate the quality of Chinese arsenals, because eventhough, they are most times substandard, like most other substandard chinese products, they work well, the first time. Believe it or not, that is what china is banking on, that's why they make many of the same thing.
I concur to some of the points you highlighted; but China has done so well in areas of building the best speed train,building the longest kilometers of paved roads and building modern cities.

By 2043,China would have surpassed the USA in 95 percent of the fields of science and technology.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by viodemus: 5:32pm On Nov 16, 2023
EDUECO:

I concur to some of the points you highlighted; but China has done so well in area of build the best speed train,building the longest kilometers of paved roads and building modern cities.

By 2043,China would have surpassed the USA in 95 percent of the fields of science and technology.



Am with you that they have built the best speed train (America can do it, but politics, and the money for overhaul) is involved, moreover, their own trains still work, and most of their train tracks are not good for high speed, it needs extensive modifications.


I think China would surpass america in 4 to 5 years, if America hires any useless or careless leader again. The division in america during that chaotic period, will make those who were suppose to be vigilant, take their eyes off the ball. During such a period, china would be able to really see american system architecture for what it is, probe its weaknesses, see their future plans, and then build and modify their posture, in response to their new found knowledge. But if no wrong move from either side, it might take china longer.


In terms of military foresight, the American generation of 40s to 70s, are the best and unmatched, by any generation so far. They were not perfect, but they learned from their imperfections, and also planned for decades ahead. Them and the Russian counterparts,
were the ones that tested all kinds of weapons with impunity. They thought of every step with foresight. They envisioned every possibility with god like view, and planned for any counter to all possibilities. Documented their findings, which are still useful today. They also began, what we all use today - the internet and mobile phones, if I may add.
Re: China’s Xi Jinping Arrives In US Ahead Of Summit With Joe Biden by Caseless: 6:11am On Nov 18, 2023
Uptownerd:


And when you add China's industrial scaling capacity to the equation... grin
boom!

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