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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 10:42am On Nov 20, 2023
grandstar:
Sadwaste

I lost total interest in this article once you said the North is using herdsmen against the South.

This article is too prejud7ced and biased.

I am apolitical and neutral and speak from that point.

The North suffers locational disadvantage. The Norths "decline" also mirrors the decline of the Nigerian economy as well.

Yes, fulani herdsmen menace on South is a psychological war of attrition. An example suffix here. Over 80 bodies of kidnapped victims were discovered close to Fulani settlement in Abia state. In other words, they were aware of it but chose to remain silent.
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by paramakina202: 11:12am On Nov 20, 2023
Okwyjesus:


I think north is using SE brain, they may offer VP as usual. For me its presidential slot or nothing even if it's 4 yrs deal before power goes north.

Else Tinubu should gladly continue.

The North may likely allow Tinubu to do his second term and hand over to them as usual than going into a new alliance with SE but in politics anything is possible.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by eustoliaranalli(m): 11:31am On Nov 20, 2023
wink wink wink
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Cryofigbos: 11:33am On Nov 20, 2023
Odin13:


North that stopped Obasnajo .. and brought him to his knees to beg

North that gave ojukwu.. total surrender as an option and won it

Are still north till infinity

Plus your igboho minus your ipob..

They will still be your masters .. as long as Britain remains a country

Go and bail Kanu first.. thought he’s a Briton ?

Obasanjo was never supported by the yorubas, the northerners made him who he his........the SE and SS were busy foolishly following PDP up and down, in 1999 Obasanjo lost SW to olu falae, at a point tinubu was the only opposition governor in the whole of Nigeria, latter on it spread to other SW states and beyond while ibos were in covenant with PDP

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by OdogwuMike(m): 11:50am On Nov 20, 2023
Difrent:


Which i disagree.
Look Buhari has proved it twice and now PBAT. You don't need igbo votes to become president. it's inconsequential

It's inconsequential because elections are rigged,
In saner climes, with the strategic positioning of the Igbos in Nigeria, you can't win without their consensus, but that's a discussion for another day.

Now I see y'all love to brag about how strategic these Northern/Western Nigeria politicians are, and how the Igbos will never be President until the end of time.

But one thing I'm shocked no one is seeing,is that it's only the political elites/class are actually enjoying and benefiting. Apart of the bragging rights that supporters get that your tribes man is the president? What else exactly are you actually gaining or benefiting from your tribes man being the president.

Until you all understand that we are all being played by these politicians all over, then we will never know that we are actually the victims here.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Okwyjesus(m): 12:02pm On Nov 20, 2023
paramakina202:


The North may likely allow Tinubu to do his second term and hand over to them as usual than going into a new alliance with SE but in politics anything is possible.

Tinubu is breaking their stronghold very hard and they knew. The north prefer president they can bully like Jonathan but definitely not Tinubu.

On that they may shop for puppet
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by TopBanter: 12:12pm On Nov 20, 2023
Sadwaste:
Northern Nigeria has been on a steady and fast decline both economically, politically and socially. The extent of its deterioration is so bad that it's happening within a generation.

Here are some examples of how the North has collapsed:

1. From the 1970's and up till late 1990's, Kano and Kaduna used to be the most industrialized states in Nigeria after Lagos. The textile factories, refineries, vehicle production, consumer goods, and agro processing etc have all closed down. Today, several Southern states have overtaken them. They include Ogun, Anambra, Oyo, Rivers and Abia states are now ahead of all Northern states in terms of industrial output.

2. There is nothing like One-North anymore. The middle belt states, particularly those with significant Christian population are no longer aligned with the North politically. They now either stand alone as Middle Belt or try to align with South.

3. North used to be famous for its vast agricultural output. The era of groundnut pyramids, cotton, hides and skin, as well as numerous cash and food crops is now gone. Sociopolitical upheavals and collosal insecurity has laid waste to it all. Many people are not even aware that some of the livestock and agricultural produce arriving in the South today are actually coming from other countries such as Chad, Niger and Burkina Faso.

4. Before, whenever North coughs, the entire country will catch cold. But not anymore, today, if they try to cough, others in the South will bang at the table for them to keep quiet. If they threaten violence, others in the South will threaten them with severe mutually assured destruction. Now, they can't threaten with military intervention/coup. They can't threaten with religious riots. The only method they're using now is fulani herdsmen but they too are receiving heavy push back in the South.

Tinubu understands this situation North has found itself, and that's why he is going all out against them without minding their feelings. Tinubu wouldn't have dared what he is doing to the North today, if it were still North of the 1970's to late 1990's. He wouldn't have dared install Wike as FCT minister. Neither would he have replaced Fulanis in strategic positions with Yorubas. At the same time, fuel is today far more expensive in the North than Lagos and most Southern states. He quickly humiliated and silwnced El Rufai before sending him on exile. Insults Buhari anyhow and is waiting to rubbish Atiku and Kwankwaso if they step out of line. Tinubu is Machiavellian, he is now using divide and conquer against the North by pitting them against MB and also against SS. Tinubu knows that Northern muslims are so unhappy that Wike is the FCT minister but he doesn't care. If they threaten Wike, militants and pressure groups in the SS will draw the battle line with muslim North. So, without having the middle belt on its side nor SS and Igbos, the core North has become isolated and Tinubu is now rallying Yorubas to go for their jugular.

Totally wrong. Tinubu is not going “all out” against the North. He is a leader who knows Nigeria is at death’s door. He is responsible enough to move bravely and uncompromisingly to avert our looming demise.

Tinubu is trying, regardless of whose Ox is gored, to do the right thing. Capitulating to the North, cabals and interest groups is what has gotten Nigeria where she is.

If the right things are done to rescue Nigeria and such affects you, to include the North, then learn to reform yourself to operate within a new environment where the interest of Nigeria is above that of any ethnic group or cabal.

Tinubu has already shown you and Northerners his thinking but you were not paying attention. During the Fulani herdsmen militia menace under Buhari, that threatened to destroy Nigeria, Tinubu advised the North to embrace scientific Netherland-style ranching that would make Fulanis educated, influential, productive and very rich livestock farmers.

Instead their feudal lord and master, in Buhari, announced “no going back on grazing routes”.

Do you now think Tinubu, with power to transform our nation with his powerful office, will tolerate that sort of regressive blackmail.

Tinubu is not “dealing with the North”. He is merely asking them to step up for their own sake and that of the existential progress of Nigeria.

Nigerians should back Tinubu and shame/reject those who want us to remain in the stone ages. If you understand what is at play you won’t be starting a thread like this one.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 12:25pm On Nov 20, 2023
Okwyjesus:


Tinubu is breaking their stronghold very hard and they knew. The north prefer president they can bully like Jonathan but definitely not Tinubu.

On that they may shop for puppet

You're giving North too much power they no longer possess. You think if it was in the past, they won't have forced Tinubu to remove Wike since?

You think if it was in the past, you wouldn't have started hearing rumors of coup or impeachment? Even religious crises?

Those were factors muslim North used to intimidate Southern leaders but they can't work now.

They're currently so bitter with Tinubu but they sulk it up in their closets. The occasional rants here and there are the few outbursts from their bottled up frustration.

North has collapsed, without those factors I mentioned above, they're finished. Tinubu knows this and he isn't even pretending. Their future is very bleak and the worst mistake they made was to support Buhari's impunity. Now, they have nothing to leverage on. They've become a huge deadweight on Nigeria and the rest of the country that is SS, SE, SW and MB knows already and are getting fed up with them. When you're in such unenviable position, you have nothing to fall back on.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 12:35pm On Nov 20, 2023
TopBanter:


Totally wrong. Tinubu is not going “all out” against the North. He is a leader who knows Nigeria is at death’s door. He is responsible enough to move bravely and uncompromisingly to avert our looming demise.

Tinubu is trying, regardless of whose Ox is gored, to do the right thing. Capitulating to the North, cabals and interest groups is what has gotten Nigeria where she is.

If the right things are done to rescue Nigeria and such affects you, to include the North, then learn to reform yourself to operate within a new environment where the interest of Nigeria is above that of any ethnic group or cabal.

Tinubu has already shown you and Northerners his thinking but you were not paying attention. During the Fulani herdsmen militia menace under Buhari, tha threatened to destroy Nigeria, Tinubu advised the North to embrace scientific Netherland-style ranching that would make Fulanis educated, influential, productive and very rich livestock farmers.

Instead their feudal lord and master, in Buhari, announced “no going back on grazing routes”.

Do you now think Think, with power to transform our nation with his powerful office, will tolerate that sort of regressive blackmail.

Tinubu is not “dealing with the North”. He is merely asking them to step up for their own sake and that of the existential progress of Nigeria.

Nigerians should back Tinubu and shame/reject those who want us to remain in the stone ages. If you understand what is at play you won’t be starting a thread like this one.

Nah, that's your own simplistic opinion. Tinubu isn't out to save Nigeria as you put it. Rather, he is only interested in feathering his own nest. He is more interested in becoming a sort of emperor while elevating his tribe above others in Nigeria.

Being in full control of Lagos has made things very easy for Tinubu. Lagos by virtue of being the base of our economy, is the new "oil". Control Lagos, and you will be in control of Nigeria to an extent.

Except Lagos influence is drastically reduced, Yorubas may end up becoming the new "Fulanis" in the emerging Nigeria.

Decentralize everything in Lagos and ensure they're distributed to other regions like Abuja, P.H, Kano, Enugu, Kaduna, Onitsha etc. Tinubu won't be where he is today, if not for Lagos.
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Quranisforfools: 12:39pm On Nov 20, 2023
That Tinubu is a Machiavellian has never been in doubt, but the truth is, the average man on the streets doesn't care about the chess games played by the political elite. All they care about is their ever diminishing financial and economic power and the rapidly escalating cost of living.


At the end of the day, Tinubu runs the risk of losing everything he's gambling if he fails to sort out the economic factor


Sadwaste:


The core North has become endangered in the grand scheme of things. Tinubu gave them a Greek gift called Muslim-muslim ticket only to decimate them. Once Kwankwaso loses out in Kano and Wike humiliates Atiku out of PDP, then it's all over. Ganduje is a weak man and Tinubu is empowering him alongside other weak Northern politicians while sidelining the tough ones. Classic Machiavellian grin

By 2027, only Obi will be the only credible opposition left.
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by chi4ik4(m): 12:51pm On Nov 20, 2023
2elliot:
Don't be decieved by the north. They are in with Tinubu and the south west. The ethnic bigotry is an agreed one in their fraternity coven. After Tinubu, another northern bigot will continue like wicked Buhari. FFK has already confessed that the north and south west have build an undefeatable alliance. The north is only being quiet waiting patiently for their turn to unleash their demonic agenda.
That is North West because no North central and North east has never ruled Nigeria
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 1:10pm On Nov 20, 2023
Unfortunately, Nigerians behave worse than slaves. Performance or lack of, is never a criteria for winning elections in Nigeria. It's all about tribal and religious sentiments. The likes of Tinubu knows this already and that's why he cunningly decieved Northern Muslims with his Muslim-muslim ticket while shouting ronu to Yorubas. By 2027, it will be rinse and repeat!



Quranisforfools:

That Tinubu is a Machiavellian has never been in doubt, but the truth is, the average man on the streets doesn't care about the chess games played by the political elite. All they care about is their ever diminishing financial and economic power and the rapidly escalating cost of living.


At the end of the day, Tinubu runs the risk of losing everything he's gambling if he fails to sort out the economic factor


Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by seunjungle1(m): 1:13pm On Nov 20, 2023
...and instead for Buhari to resurrect the dead rail and add new ones to the already dead track rail, the mofo was busy constructing road to Niger.
North is a calamity



Odin13:
Only kids without knowledge of Nigeria history will type trash about the North and it’s domininace of Nigeria

British gave power to the north till tomorrow.. not to west, east.. but North

For one Nigeria , and unity they allow .. south to power after 8 years and still retain kingmakers and power brokers in Nigeria

Op is still young..

The allegiance to anyone wins becomes the government of the day.. while they can chose to keep any of the south as wives and opposition

This power the south can’t have in a million years as long as Nigeria is concern

Obasnajo with his general uniform .. knee to beg Atiku and elders of the north for another term and yet in his Yoruba wisdom still install in his mind a puppet .. who turned to be a tiger ..

Tinubu must knee and beg at the right time..

His tribalism is being well documented by the north and his dealing with Yoruba cabal against the north is well received by the north

Is just a matter of time.. he come .. and those will be open before him

Mattawale .. Ganduje .. can’t and will never control Arewa .. for the have no loyalties..

As for industrialization.. when the rails are done .. in the north .. you will see those industries steaming back with Tribble force ..

The railway killed those industries ..

North still feed Nigeria till tomorrow .. una think say na those garden call farm for south.

This people are just hallucinating
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by TopBanter: 1:20pm On Nov 20, 2023
Sadwaste:


Nah, that's your own simplistic opinion. Tinubu isn't out to save Nigeria as you put it. Rather, he is only interested in feathering his own nest. He is more interested in becoming a sort of emperor while elevating his tribe above others in Nigeria.

Being in full control of Lagos has made things very easy for Tinubu. Lagos by virtue of being the base of our economy, is the new "oil". Control Lagos, and you will be in control of Nigeria to an extent.

Except Lagos influence is drastically reduced, Yorubas may end up becoming the new "Fulanis" in the emerging Nigeria.

Decentralize everything in Lagos and ensure they're distributed to other regions like Abuja, P.H, Kano, Enugu, Kaduna, Onitsha etc. Tinubu won't be where he is today, if not for Lagos.

You people and your redundant talk plus pedestrian thinking. Tinubu is extremely wealthy enough for his several generations ahead.

What nest, for a logical thinker, is a man of 70 who is extremely rich looking to feather? Buhari was broke when he became President so we can understand the allure of stupendous wealth, he now controlled as President, going to his head.

Not Tinubu who has always been rich and able to make money. His property portfolio is enough to make him richer than some small Nigerian States and I don't know how small-minded someone has to be to think same man spent so much time and effort, since leaving office as Lagos governor, plottinf to be President because he wants to "feather his nest".

Tinubu has had a private as far back as when Buhari was si broke he had to rely on stipend from political leaders who had goodwill for him.

Make your argument make sense otherwise you join the list of those intelligent folks avoid because they see your talk lack logical merit , is obviously prejudiced and only delivered to give a dog a bad name to hang it.

I can't even address all else you wrote because it is a case of answer A, from a candidate, being so woeful that an examiner cannot bother inspecting answer B, C and so forth.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by RepoMan007: 1:30pm On Nov 20, 2023
Empty junk. The north is the one running things in Nigeria.

The north owns NNPCL and only working refinery in Nigeria. Has better roads. The richest man. The food capital of Nigeria.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Khyrvxjzy: 1:42pm On Nov 20, 2023
onumadu:
Some fair points but ...
Underestimate the Fulani to your own peril.
Whenever they go silent, be afraid. Be very afraid.
The only time Tinubu should really sleep with both eyes closed is when the Igbo accept him.
If not, anything can happen if he keeps stuffing the government with only Yorubas.
This is Nigeria.

no use style toast tinubu

omo ibo go on your need and beg

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Khyrvxjzy: 1:42pm On Nov 20, 2023
Sadwaste:
Northern Nigeria has been on a steady and fast decline both economically, politically and socially. The extent of its deterioration is so bad that it's happening within a generation.

Here are some examples of how the North has collapsed:

1. From the 1970's and up till late 1990's, Kano and Kaduna used to be the most industrialized states in Nigeria after Lagos. The textile factories, refineries, vehicle production, consumer goods, and agro processing etc have all closed down. Today, several Southern states have overtaken them. They include Ogun, Anambra, Oyo, Rivers and Abia states are now ahead of all Northern states in terms of industrial output.

2. There is nothing like One-North anymore. The middle belt states, particularly those with significant Christian population are no longer aligned with the North politically. They now either stand alone as Middle Belt or try to align with South.

3. North used to be famous for its vast agricultural output. The era of groundnut pyramids, cotton, hides and skin, as well as numerous cash and food crops is now gone. Sociopolitical upheavals and collosal insecurity has laid waste to it all. Many people are not even aware that some of the livestock and agricultural produce arriving in the South today are actually coming from other countries such as Chad, Niger and Burkina Faso.

4. Before, whenever North coughs, the entire country will catch cold. But not anymore, today, if they try to cough, others in the South will bang at the table for them to keep quiet. If they threaten violence, others in the South will threaten them with severe mutually assured destruction. Now, they can't threaten with military intervention/coup. They can't threaten with religious riots. The only method they're using now is fulani herdsmen but they too are receiving heavy push back in the South.

Tinubu understands this situation North has found itself, and that's why he is going all out against them without minding their feelings. Tinubu wouldn't have dared what he is doing to the North today, if it were still North of the 1970's to late 1990's. He wouldn't have dared install Wike as FCT minister. Neither would he have replaced Fulanis in strategic positions with Yorubas. At the same time, fuel is today far more expensive in the North than Lagos and most Southern states. He quickly humiliated and silwnced El Rufai before sending him on exile. Insults Buhari anyhow and is waiting to rubbish Atiku and Kwankwaso if they step out of line. Tinubu is Machiavellian, he is now using divide and conquer against the North by pitting them against MB and also against SS. Tinubu knows that Northern muslims are so unhappy that Wike is the FCT minister but he doesn't care. If they threaten Wike, militants and pressure groups in the SS will draw the battle line with muslim North. So, without having the middle belt on its side nor SS and Igbos, the core North has become isolated and Tinubu is now rallying Yorubas to go for their jugular.




ipob

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by CJStarz: 1:45pm On Nov 20, 2023
Bros no vex o,abeg which industrial output dey comot for Abia? I dey wait for your response.
Thank you in advance.


Sadwaste:
Northern Nigeria has been on a steady and fast decline both economically, politically and socially. The extent of its deterioration is so bad that it's happening within a generation.

Here are some examples of how the North has collapsed:

1. From the 1970's and up till late 1990's, Kano and Kaduna used to be the most industrialized states in Nigeria after Lagos. The textile factories, refineries, vehicle production, consumer goods, and agro processing etc have all closed down. Today, several Southern states have overtaken them. They include Ogun, Anambra, Oyo, Rivers and Abia states are now ahead of all Northern states in terms of industrial output.

2. There is nothing like One-North anymore. The middle belt states, particularly those with significant Christian population are no longer aligned with the North politically. They now either stand alone as Middle Belt or try to align with South.

3. North used to be famous for its vast agricultural output. The era of groundnut pyramids, cotton, hides and skin, as well as numerous cash and food crops is now gone. Sociopolitical upheavals and collosal insecurity has laid waste to it all. Many people are not even aware that some of the livestock and agricultural produce arriving in the South today are actually coming from other countries such as Chad, Niger and Burkina Faso.

4. Before, whenever North coughs, the entire country will catch cold. But not anymore, today, if they try to cough, others in the South will bang at the table for them to keep quiet. If they threaten violence, others in the South will threaten them with severe mutually assured destruction. Now, they can't threaten with military intervention/coup. They can't threaten with religious riots. The only method they're using now is fulani herdsmen but they too are receiving heavy push back in the South.

Tinubu understands this situation North has found itself, and that's why he is going all out against them without minding their feelings. Tinubu wouldn't have dared what he is doing to the North today, if it were still North of the 1970's to late 1990's. He wouldn't have dared install Wike as FCT minister. Neither would he have replaced Fulanis in strategic positions with Yorubas. At the same time, fuel is today far more expensive in the North than Lagos and most Southern states. He quickly humiliated and silwnced El Rufai before sending him on exile. Insults Buhari anyhow and is waiting to rubbish Atiku and Kwankwaso if they step out of line. Tinubu is Machiavellian, he is now using divide and conquer against the North by pitting them against MB and also against SS. Tinubu knows that Northern muslims are so unhappy that Wike is the FCT minister but he doesn't care. If they threaten Wike, militants and pressure groups in the SS will draw the battle line with muslim North. So, without having the middle belt on its side nor SS and Igbos, the core North has become isolated and Tinubu is now rallying Yorubas to go for their jugular.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by CJStarz: 1:47pm On Nov 20, 2023
There's no joy and faith in this your comment o.
Na sadness and hopelessness.
Who did we offend for Naija,bikonu?


joyandfaith:


Bigger problems are coming after Tinubu.
1.Lagos would be war zone.
2.National chaos-miliary leaders would fight for Nigeria unity wouldn't be relevant again. There would be uprisings in many parts of the country.
Tribe v Tribe. Instability would be order of the day.
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 2:15pm On Nov 20, 2023
Where your allegiance lies is already obvious and it's impeding you from being logical. Lol, you think making money or greed, has a limit? Why are corrupt politicians stockpiling billions of naira and still looting more even when it's obvious to them that their children and grandchildren won't lack anything again? If Tinubu has had enough as you said, then why is his leg still firmly on the neck of Lagos?

Why didn't Abacha stop looting after frittering away billions of dollars abroad? The answer is greed and man's insatiable wants!

Wait until Tinubu leaves office, then you will start hearing of billions that were misappropriated by him, family and cabinet ministers. That's if he wouldn't install a puppet who would cover up the crimes.

You're just being naive or simply illogical because your allegiance is already on Tinubu.

TopBanter:


You people and your redundant talk plus pedestrian thinking. Tinubu is extremely wealthy enough for his several generations ahead.

What nest, for a logical thinker, is a man of 70 who is extremely rich looking to feather? Buhari was broke when he became President so we can understand the allure of stupendous wealth, he now controlled as President, going to his head.

Not Tinubu who has always been rich and able to make money. His property portfolio is enough to make him richer than some small Nigerian States and I don't know how small-minded someone has to be to think same man spent so much time and effort, since leaving office as Lagos governor, plottinf to be President because he wants to "feather his nest".

Tinubu has had a private as far back as when Buhari was si broke he had to rely on stipend from political leaders who had goodwill for him.

Make your argument make sense otherwise you join the list of those intelligent folks avoid because they see your talk lack logical merit , is obviously prejudiced and only delivered to give a dog a bad name to hang it.

I can't even address all else you wrote because it is a case of answer A, from a candidate, being so woeful that an examiner cannot bother inspecting answer B, C and so forth.
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 2:21pm On Nov 20, 2023
CJStarz:
Bros no vex o,abeg which industrial output dey comot for Abia? I dey wait for your response.
Thank you in advance.



Lots of them. But if you're willing to engage me factually, then pick either Kano or Kaduna and be ready to list the industries that are still functional while I will list the industries that are functional in Aba. Then others will be able to judge.

I don't just say things without facts. Don't run away with your arrogance. Take up the challenge and I will indulge you!
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by shortIGBOman: 2:34pm On Nov 20, 2023
Odin13:
Only kids without knowledge of Nigeria history will type trash about the North and it’s domininace of Nigeria

British gave power to the north till tomorrow.. not to west, east.. but North

For one Nigeria , and unity they allow .. south to power after 8 years and still retain kingmakers and power brokers in Nigeria

Op is still young..

The allegiance to anyone wins becomes the government of the day.. while they can chose to keep any of the south as wives and opposition

This power the south can’t have in a million years as long as Nigeria is concern

Obasnajo with his general uniform .. knee to beg Atiku and elders of the north for another term and yet in his Yoruba wisdom still install in his mind a puppet .. who turned to be a tiger ..

Tinubu must knee and beg at the right time..

His tribalism is being well documented by the north and his dealing with Yoruba cabal against the north is well received by the north

Is just a matter of time.. he come .. and those will be open before him

Mattawale .. Ganduje .. can’t and will never control Arewa .. for the have no loyalties..

As for industrialization.. when the rails are done .. in the north .. you will see those industries steaming back with Tribble force ..

The railway killed those industries ..

North still feed Nigeria till tomorrow .. una think say na those garden call farm for south.

This people are just hallucinating

You have said it all.



No President can ever underestimate the North.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Okwyjesus(m): 2:38pm On Nov 20, 2023
Sadwaste:


You're giving North too much power they no longer possess. You think if it was in the past, they won't have forced Tinubu to remove Wike since?

You think if it was in the past, you wouldn't have started hearing rumors of coup or impeachment? Even religious crises?

Those were factors muslim North used to intimidate Southern leaders but they can't work now.

They're currently so bitter with Tinubu but they sulk it up in their closets. The occasional rants here and there are the few outbursts from their bottled up frustration.

North has collapsed, without those factors I mentioned above, they're finished. Tinubu knows this and he isn't even pretending. Their future is very bleak and the worst mistake they made was to support Buhari's impunity. Now, they have nothing to leverage on. They've become a huge deadweight on Nigeria and the rest of the country that is SS, SE, SW and MB knows already and are getting fed up with them. When you're in such unenviable position, you have nothing to fall back on.

You're right bro. Nigeria is too intelligent, rich and endowed to roam in failure and backwardness....

.....Just bcs a particular region want it all.

May God help Tinubu!
Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by BolaAThubv(m): 2:58pm On Nov 20, 2023
Odogwuzack:


This guy you no dey tire. grin

Funny enough the person that started this thread is an ipob like you. grin
Stop fooling around... Odin13 is a Northerner. The same guy shouting Power to the North all throughout last year and before the elections

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Raf4: 3:01pm On Nov 20, 2023
joyandfaith:


Bigger problems are coming after Tinubu.
1.Lagos would be war zone.
2.National chaos-miliary leaders would fight for Nigeria unity wouldn't be relevant again. There would be uprisings in many parts of the country.
Tribe v Tribe. Instability would be order of the day.

All this will happen right in your village

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by CJStarz: 3:07pm On Nov 20, 2023
I live in Aba. I intended to engage you 'factually' but your last paragraph shows you're sparing for a 'fight'.
Not in the mood for that,man.
So long.



Sadwaste:


Lots of them. But if you're willing to engage me factually, then pick either Kano or Kaduna and be ready to list the industries that are still functional while I will list the industries that are functional in Aba. Then others will be able to judge.

I don't just say things without facts. Don't run away with your arrogance. Take up the challenge and I will indulge you!

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by TopBanter: 3:17pm On Nov 20, 2023
Sadwaste:
Where your allegiance lies is already obvious and it's impeding you from being logical. Lol, you think making money or greed, has a limit? Why are corrupt politicians stockpiling billions of naira and still looting more even when it's obvious to them that their children and grandchildren won't lack anything again? If Tinubu has had enough as you said, then why is his leg still firmly on the neck of Lagos?

Why didn't Abacha stop looting after frittering away billions of dollars abroad? The answer is greed and man's insatiable wants!

Wait until Tinubu leaves office, then you will start hearing of billions that were misappropriated by him, family and cabinet ministers. That's if he wouldn't install a puppet who would cover up the crimes.

You're just being naive or simply illogical because your allegiance is already on Tinubu.


You with the username of "sadwaste" has no allegiances or preconceived bias and prejudice ba?

We all have allegiances but the ability to think and talk objectively, progressively, and as critical thinkers seeking solutions for society always, is what sets us apart.

As an example, I want the best for the North and wish they would adopt the template of using the Awolowo model of aggressive development of human resources as a launchpad for the development of the region.

Yet, if Northerners prefer to listen to Gumi and Shekau because both are their ethnic and religious affiliate, rather than an Awolowo-type then I see no reason why Yorubas should go down with the North all in the name of "one Nigeria". There should be no pateonage or reward for those who dedicated themselves to doing what is wrong and regressive always.

Let a brave President give us all a governance model that will allow those who love progress to gain such without encumbrance from others. Tinubu is the only Southerner that can deliver that Governance model.

Argue with fact against my opinion but don't tell me the only southern leader with the bravery and support base to stare down enemies of progress is someone you can shame others away from supporting to follow a clown, coward and failure like Obi or the Dubai dweller who is never there when Nigeria is troubled.

Many of you are just prejudiced against Tinubu because of your innate bias. You have no factual justification , or proven history of leadership efficacy of all contestants, to argue any other can lead better than him.

To make Lagos fifth biggest economy in Africa and the only state in Nigeria that can self-fund herself na beans whereas Obi only took Anambra backwards, increased poverty rate and was in bed with genocidal killers?

Atiku, the Dubai dweller, is not even worth talking about. Overall, not had to tell who has jnprovressive allegiances. At least I am.backing a proven leader who has delivered while people like you want us to play Russian roulette with failures and reprobates like Obi and emptily desperate Atiku.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by TopBanter: 4:23pm On Nov 20, 2023
RepoMan007:
Empty junk. The north is the one running things in Nigeria.

The north owns NNPCL and only working refinery in Nigeria. Has better roads. The richest man. The food capital of Nigeria.



North is not running anything. It is the misguided opinion that they are, propagated by some hero-worshipping Nigerians and scaredy cats, that has made this myth resemble reality.

What exactly did the North do when Tinubu, unlike Jonathan, defined his Presidency as he wanted to include historically appointing a Southerner FCT Minister and EFCC boss?

The truth is that the North has always traded on the fear that they are a feared people , dominating the military and armed forces, able to create violent problem for Nigeria if they do not get their way. Imagine Gumi threatening Tinubu that Mr.President will not get a second term for making Wike FCT Minister.

Yet folks like you keep ignoring the fact that modern occurrences keep discrediting the so-called ‘North owns Nigeria’ charade. Remind me what happened over the food blockade the North convened under Buhari to punish the South.

Was it not the North that blinked first when their tomatoes were getting rotten without patronage from the much richer South?

Today, Lagos is the top business startup zone in Africa and the SW is essentially Nigeria. If the SW uncompromisingly down tools then what? Tinubu know the cumulative worth to Nigeria of the SW and other zones to Nigeria.

His actions are not to harm the North. His thinking is that of most progressive and well-educated Nigerians, that many are too scared to voice out, which is that we must stop indulging the North and help her so we help ourselves too. Nigeria can never be well unless the North is well or removed from our nation.

The North contributes a whopping 87% to the most poverty-stricken people of Nigeria. What kind of “owners of Nigeria “ is that. This is a region and people who need truth spoken to them so they reform for the better rather than take us all down yet we all indulging them and hailing them “owners” of this and that.

Southerners , especially, Igbos, ‘gaslighting’ Tinubu by saying he is harming and mistreating the North, just to cause disaffection for Mr.President because Obi lost, are too hateful and vindictive to appreciate how myopically harmful, anti-progressive and dangerous what they are doing is.

If the North, instigated by the likes of Gumi, gets riled up enough to start conduction pogrom on Southerners in the North I wonder who the biggest victims will be.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Sadwaste: 4:27pm On Nov 20, 2023
TopBanter:


You with the username of "sadwaste" has no allegiances or preconceived bias and prejudice ba?

We all have allegiances but the ability to think and talk objectively, progressively, and as critical thinkers seeking solutions for society always, is what sets us apart.

As an example, I want the best for the North and wish they would adopt the template of using the Awolowo model of aggressive development of human resources as a launchpad for the development of the region.

Yet, if Northerners prefer to listen to Gumi and Shekau because both are their ethnic and religious affiliate, rather than an Awolowo-type then I see no reason why Yorubas should go down with the North all in the name of "one Nigeria". There should be no pateonage or reward for those who dedicated themselves to doing what is wrong and regressive always.

Let a brave President give us all a governance model that will allow those who love progress to gain such without encumbrance from others. Tinubu is the only Southerner that can deliver that Governance model.

Argue with fact against my opinion but don't tell me the only southern leader with the bravery and support base to stare down enemies of progress is someone you can shame others away from supporting to follow a clown, coward and failure like Obi or the Dubai dweller who is never there when Nigeria is troubled.

Many of you are just prejudiced against Tinubu because of your innate bias. You have no factual justification , or proven history of leadership efficacy of all contestants, to argue any other can lead better than him.

To make Lagos fifth biggest economy in Africa and the only state in Nigeria that can self-fund herself na beans whereas Obi only took Anambra backwards, increased poverty rate and was in bed with genocidal killers?

Atiku, the Dubai dweller, is not even worth talking about. Overall, not had to tell who has jnprovressive allegiances. At least I am.backing a proven leader who has delivered while people like you want us to play Russian roulette with failures and reprobates like Obi and emptily desperate Atiku.

Forget about my moniker, I just like the sound of it, nothing more.
The political leaders of Northern Nigeria made a choice years ago, albeit a very wrong one. They refused to invest in education, a key factor in enduring growth. They wanted to continue using their uneducated hordes to for their selfish interests but they forgot that free oil money will end one day. Today, oil earnings is no longer enough. They've suddenly found themselves in a difficult situation.

I agree that Tinubu showed guts against North but saying he made Lagos fifth biggest economy or whatever is pure nonsense. Tinubu only ruled Lagos between 1999 and 2007. There wasn't anything tangible on ground to show for those years. It's absurd to credit everything that happened in Lagos between 1999 to 2023 to Tinubu. The only major thing Tinubu did in Lagos is to make himself an emperor of sorts. With almost everything used by 200 million people domiciled in Lagos, even a dumbo will still rule the state and he would appear like he is a genius.

Saying that Peter Obi is a coward is laughable. A coward can't have the guts to deny moneybags and opposition who were in control of the house of assembly the opportunity to steal. A coward can't abandon a party like PDP to join an unknown party like LP and took them to win election! You've been too oppressed by politicians to the extent you developed Stockholm syndrome. You see politicians that are ruthless and wicked as strong while those that are compassionate as weak.

Again, without Peter Obi, it would have been extremely difficult for Tinubu to emerge. Because the entire East would have gone with North and such aliance would be too difficult to rig out.

In 2027, I would rather support Tinubu than support a Northern presidential candidate regardless. Except of course, they agree to back Peter Obi as president.

Charles Darwin's theory has started taking place in Nigeria. So, it's better to allow Tinubu or Obi to continue with it than allow another Northerner that will come and take us back like Buhari did.

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by onumadu: 4:34pm On Nov 20, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:


no use style toast tinubu

omo ibo go on your need and beg

Oga you are understanding me upside down.
It is your bala bluu that should be on his hands and knees begging the Igbo.
Though I concede that he may not succeed in getting Igbo support, but he should at least try.
There will be too many willing tools in Igboland to use against him if he doesn't.
Nigeria is a game of tip tac toe.
That Fulani silence should really worry you.

Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by Khyrvxjzy: 4:46pm On Nov 20, 2023
onumadu:


Oga you are understanding me upside down.
It is your bala bluu that should be on his hands and knees begging the Igbo.
Though I concede that he may not succeed in getting Igbo support, but he should at least try.
There will be too many willing tools in Igboland to use against him if he doesn't.
Nigeria is a game of tip tac toe.
That Fulani silence should really worry you.

that "try" you said tinubu will not try and ask for ibo support

tinubu vs ibo fight, is fight to death

we hate una

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Re: Decline Of Northern Nigeria & Why Tinubu Is Going For The Jugular by onumadu: 4:52pm On Nov 20, 2023
Khyrvxjzy:


that "try" you said tinubu will not try and ask for ibo support

tinubu vs ibo fight, is fight to death

we hate una

The feeling is very mutual. lol cool
And yes, a Carmel would have to pass through the eye of the needle before the Igbo nation would accept an election rigger as president.
The "try" I used is a nuanced word in politics.
It is mission impossible.
Your bala bluu is standing on one leg in a tripodal country.
In Igboland we say that a one-legged man should not take the title of "Mr stability". grin grin
The Fulani are strategic thinkers and they see these things, and smiling.
Bala bluu is sitting on a keg of powder.

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