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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Emyogalanya: 8:08am On Nov 26, 2023
Save itself fron itself or fron people like you
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by doctore212(m): 8:09am On Nov 26, 2023
Na to carry two Olosho dey hungry me this morning
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by victorazyvictor(m): 8:09am On Nov 26, 2023
PDP is dead, GEJ killed it.
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Sirianese: 8:10am On Nov 26, 2023
Estello:


Posted by TonyeBarcanista on X(Formerly called Twitter)

I don't understand why people keep talking about the PDP saving itself, because how can it even happen? The same fate exactly awaits APC when they lose power at the centre...these so-called parties are bereft of any ideology or any other type of common ground or higher ideal they are simply structures set up for the purpose of sharing Nigeria's resources among a certain group of thieves and criminals. PDP could not even finish their own HQ building while they were in power because they were too busy stealing from each other!

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Antoeni(m): 8:13am On Nov 26, 2023
PDP & APC Are Satanic Extension of Each other

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by id4sho(m): 8:13am On Nov 26, 2023
Self-destruct, Atiku contributed to division of the party. I mean at state factions B4 the wike issue

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by waveman2: 8:14am On Nov 26, 2023
PDP is dead and buried,if the party couldn't comeback to power when buhari who is not a seasoned politician was there and who also performed badly, is it now that a strategist is there?Tinubu knows politics is a game of numbers therefore no discrimination and he is already controlling the pdp indirectly.
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by igwebuike01: 8:15am On Nov 26, 2023
Next time don't mess with the Igbos. We have ruined PDP forever. Peter Mbah will be removed in the next election
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by tesppidd: 8:16am On Nov 26, 2023
Estello:


Posted by TonyeBarcanista on X(Formerly called Twitter)
It's not about the party but about the President in power.

The same thing you are saying was the same thing that was said against Buhari.

During Buhari, PDP were settling all their disputes while APC had crises everywhere.. Buhari didn't lift a finger.
He let party disputes fester to the point they lost power in many states..

Buhari was a curse to APC politically.


Tinubu is the real politician.

So it's not about party, all parties are made up of the same old crooks, corrupt, incompetent, selfish and mischievous.

If Buhari was still in charge of this same APC they would have settled nothing.



As for the current PDP, what they lack is power and leadership.

The members are not interested in the country but in their personal gains.
They would rather frolic with Tinubu and get some crumbs off his table than form a strong opposition to checkmate Tinubu for the betterment of the country as a whole.
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Omalicious1: 8:30am On Nov 26, 2023
Estello:


Posted by TonyeBarcanista on X(Formerly called Twitter)

PDP will implode...just a matter of time
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Fiscus105(m): 8:33am On Nov 26, 2023
PDP finished itself immediately they refused to zone ticket to south.

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by femi4: 8:37am On Nov 26, 2023
Estello:


Posted by TonyeBarcanista on X(Formerly called Twitter)
We have PDP everywhere. PDP isn't lost, they only change camp
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by casualobserver: 8:43am On Nov 26, 2023
Prigidypogodo:
PDP is dead and buried
SE was the last region holding the forte in pdp both online and offline.
as soon as they left, pdp became dead.

Those shouting rigging
Those shouting judiciary
Those shouting INEC
Those shouting one party state
Those shouting Obi is the savior

If and when they decide to engage whatever is left of their brains, they will realize 2 things

1: PDP is and has always been an indisciplined party that was handed power in 1999 and relied on rigging to remain in power. As soon as yaradua /GEJ started to implement electoral reforms, rigging became more difficult and they struggled to remain in power. They are a party of impunity, selfish interests and are not democrats. They don’t know how to build a party because they did not have to build their party. They were anointed by the military with a military mindset.
2: the real effect of Obi leaving PDP is to condemn the remnants of the PDP to a life of opposition for the foreseeable future. Obi has boxed himself into a corner, he can’t move forward and he can’t go backwards. He can’t win an election as president even with PDP support and he can’t step down as president to be Vp to PDP. This was exactly what caused them to split to begin with. They are stuck. Obi has taken his votes away from PDP and can’t go back without losing the facade of credibility.

Selfishness, lack of strategic thinking, impunity , lack of internal democracy in the PDP is what is playing out in the opposition PDP whether Core PDP, Obi, Atiku Kwakwanso. If you look at At the actors, they have all defected at least twice, showing they are not loyal party men and therein lies the problem.

They will point fingers at INEC, judiciary and APC for creating a one party state but. Is it APC that forced PDP to flout a court order in Plateau? Is it APC that made PDP violate its own constitution and give the ticket to North? Is it APC that forces Obi out of PDP, Kwakwanso out of PDP, G5 out of PDP? PDP got 14.7m votes in 2023, APC got 8.7m. Democracy worked, the people spoke with their votes but PDP lost because they can’t keep their house in order. Obi Kwakwanso, Atiku are all PDP. Nigerians voted for PDP but APC is in power because PDP cannot put its house in order…not because of INEC, not because of Judiciary, not because of one party state, not because of rigging!

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by tollyboy5(m): 8:52am On Nov 26, 2023
Addme:
Unfortunately it's not looking like that and it's very dangerous for our democracy.
I knew this would happen long time ago once Tinubu was elected.

Tinubu unlike Buhari is a seasoned Politician that has mastered the habit of weakling oppositions. He did it in Lagos and he's currently on the path of doing it again in Nigeria.
Every notable PDP Politicians will in one way or the other get something from Tinubu administration either directly or by proxy.

Though PDP started their self extinction but if not rallying together,Tinubu will help them to nail their burial coffin very soon.

Blame nobody,it's what it is, Politics is about bringing people to your side especially monitized Politics like ours unfortunately most of our politicians lack ethics to resist this.
When obidient were saying tinubu is not smart, he's this and that. I just look at them as they dont even know tinubu. Tinubu is very good at his games.
I told my friend that the danger of tinubu becoming president is that he will put his allies n key position and once he dominate it would take grace to remove tinubu from there even after 8 years. Now it has started lol.
PDP is filled with arrogant individuals that will destroy this country if giving the chance

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Burna440(m): 8:54am On Nov 26, 2023
Kingozymandias:
Who cares !! its Sunday start preparing for work tomorrow. Too many jobless men on this forum

😂😂😂😂
See diss
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by jogsman01(m): 8:54am On Nov 26, 2023
Barcanista my guy.... Power to the People
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Nobody: 9:01am On Nov 26, 2023
Okay
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by tnerro1(m): 9:03am On Nov 26, 2023
Yes by expelling Atiku and Wike and any one that wants to follow them and start the rebuilding process afresh with eyes on 2027 for the presidency
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by LivingSage: 9:09am On Nov 26, 2023
PDP is dead in Nigeria. Buried in 2023

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by sageb: 9:15am On Nov 26, 2023
Estello:


Posted by TonyeBarcanista on X(Formerly called Twitter)

The sad reality 😔
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Prigidypogodo(f): 9:15am On Nov 26, 2023
casualobserver:


Those shouting rigging
Those shouting judiciary
Those shouting INEC
Those shouting one party state
Those shouting Obi is the savior

If and when they decide to engage whatever is left of their brains, they will realize 2 things

1: PDP is and has always been an indisciplined party that was handed power in 1999 and relied on rigging to remain in power. As soon as yaradua /GEJ started to implement electoral reforms, rigging became more difficult and they struggled to remain in power. They are a party of impunity, selfish interests and are not democrats. They don’t know how to build a party because they did not have to build their party. They were anointed by the military with a military mindset.
2: the real effect of Obi leaving PDP is to condemn the remnants of the PDP to a life of opposition for the foreseeable future. Obi has boxed himself into a corner, he can’t move forward and he can’t go backwards. He can’t win an election as president even with PDP support and he can’t step down as president to be Vp to PDP. This was exactly what caused them to split to begin with. They are stuck. Obi has taken his votes away from PDP and can’t go back without losing the facade of credibility.

Selfishness, lack of strategic thinking, impunity , lack of internal democracy in the PDP is what is playing out in the opposition PDP whether Core PDP, Obi, Atiku Kwakwanso. If you look at At the actors, they have all defected at least twice, showing they are not loyal party men and therein lies the problem.

They will point fingers at INEC, judiciary and APC for creating a one party state but. Is it APC that forced PDP to flout a court order in Plateau? Is it APC that made PDP violate its own constitution and give the ticket to North? Is it APC that forces Obi out of PDP, Kwakwanso out of PDP, G5 out of PDP? PDP got 14.7m votes in 2023, APC got 8.7m. Democracy worked, the people spoke with their votes but PDP lost because they can’t keep their house in order.
trash trash trash
I didn't read this trash trust me
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Afamed: 9:17am On Nov 26, 2023
We attended the final burial of PDP at Wadata Plaza few months ago.

PDP is dead ,gone and buried.

Jonathan was the last President of PDP

You also contributed to the demise of PDP through anywhere belle face policies

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by flokii: 9:18am On Nov 26, 2023
Nothing for PDP again... the moment Atiku flouted the agreement and imposed himself as flag bearer, I knew it was over for them. Another Northerner wants to take over after 8 years of Buhari, for what na?

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Afamed: 9:26am On Nov 26, 2023
igwebuike01:
Next time don't mess with the Igbos. We have ruined PDP forever. Peter Mbah will be removed in the next election
5% don come, empty threat as usual
Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by VULCAN(m): 9:39am On Nov 26, 2023
You didn't read what he wrote but call it out as trash.

Hmmm.

Prigidypogodo:

trash trash trash
I didn't read this trash trust me

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Prigidypogodo(f): 9:48am On Nov 26, 2023
VULCAN:
You didn't read what he wrote but call it out as trash.

Hmmm.

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by JuanDeDios: 10:29am On Nov 26, 2023
Estello:


Posted by TonyeBarcanista on X(Formerly called Twitter)
I doubt a party that failed in governance and then in opposition can save itself.

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Rotji(m): 11:01am On Nov 26, 2023
They forgot to mention Plateau State whose almost a decade of unresolved issues led them to not having a constitutionally recognized structure which has led to them loosing every contested position in the elections since 2019.

Two factions exist in the state and they've not been able to unite and hold a legitimate congress that will enable them to vie for, win and maintain their positions.

People would rather be emotional about it than face the truth and do the needful.

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Benbellamor: 11:07am On Nov 26, 2023
Bobloco:
PDP needs to save itself and save this country from the current buccaneering power grabbers
PDP itself is filled with power grabbers who are too indisciplined....

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Benbellamor: 11:15am On Nov 26, 2023
flokii:
Nothing for PDP again... the moment Atiku flouted the agreement and imposed himself as flag bearer, I knew it was over for them. Another Northerner wants to take over after 8 years of Buhari, for what na?
you forgot to Mention that Atiku is not only trying to be a flagbearer, But flagrantly breaking the party's own rule with impunity by keeping a Northerner as the National Chairman even when the party constitution Clearly states ''When a Northerner EMERGED as the party's flagbearer.......automatically the Chairman will EMMERGE from the South & NOT after they must have won election''...(EVEN iyorchia Ayu pledge that he will resign when a Northerner Emerge but Atiku see to it that he stays and break the promise and the party's constitution)....The worst that hit them was the fact that Wike's faction that was keeping PDP floating when Atiku Led Buhari &Tinubu to rock the PDP boat, the wike faction that resisted the rough & toughest times was about to be rubbished and thrown out uncelebrated That alone clearly tear PDP into shreds that it will take a very long time to heal if it can ever heal

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Re: Can The PDP Save Itself? - TonyeBarcanista by Nahunger(m): 11:33am On Nov 26, 2023
ipobarecriminals:
cool tonyebarcanista grin cheesy.Long long time shocked shocked

The guy is broke, dem don renew him subscription, expect more lengthy jargons from him in the next few days

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