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| by IAmHim1(op): 1:50pm On Dec 10, 2023*. Modified: 9:48pm On Dec 22, 2024 |
| Re: by Dtruthspeaker: 1:56pm On Dec 10, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Someone took this man's wife that is why he is shouting upanda. Make una tell am sorry |
| Re: by luminouz(m): 2:56pm On Dec 10, 2023 |
Why is this dude mentioning my name everywhere? People will think I'm related to him or we are friends. NO WE AIN'T. ION KNOW THIS MUDAFUCKER!!! |
| Re: by Haydens: 4:31pm On Dec 10, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Any matter that has to do with religion I hardly involve myself in it cos it brings out people's worst emotion alot. Whatever one believe one should have it to oneself and not force it to others, I see it as wisdom. Enforcing some of your opinion to others isn't the best, I know you may talk about redpill but one should know wisdom and what's helpful when one sees it. |
| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 1:49am On Dec 11, 2023*. Modified: 3:48am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:06am On Dec 11, 2023 |
If you know what Christianity stand for you will breakdown in tears while embracing a copy of the Bible but due to different religions claiming Christians you won't even give it a second thought before condemning that book. So i will implore you to have a heart to heart discussion with me over what the book really teach and keep aside the interpretation those religions claiming Christians gave you for a moment. This has nothing to do with the threat of some fairy place of torment or going to heaven even you will be amazed at what you can gain by studiously considering that book: Bible! Are you ready? ![]() |
| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 3:52pm On Dec 11, 2023*. Modified: 3:48am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:16pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
IAmHim1:You don't know a single thing about the one and only true religion: Jehovah's Witnesses organization but since you don't want to discuss i'll say the same to you. Good luck! ![]() |
| Re: by Haydens: 5:46pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Guy, you don't have to chip in some snide remarks cos someone doesn't believe your belief I see it as a weak man's mentality i.e using open eyes or curse or shouting to cow someone into your reality, people have the right to choose what they wanna be and you can't do or say otherwise. Talking about reincarnation, I have seen something and similarities that happend that made me believe in reincarnation, even my tribe so much believe in reincarnation, but where I have issue with some of us that believe in after life or maybe some Christians that believe in reincarnation is where bible quoted "after death judgment follows." My question to you is that if someone's soul is damned or is in bliss will his soul be reincarnated ? |
| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 6:14pm On Dec 11, 2023*. Modified: 3:49am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by Dtruthspeaker: 6:34pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
IAmHim1:People already knew about gravity and shit like people were already making juices before Coca-Cola, these were just raised up to be the choirboys and these Laws were already on ground whether you were told or not and anyone who was going to make a plane was still going to make one, whether they heard what Galileo said or not. So you are just being silly thinking that you have something which no other person knows. |
| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 12:49am On Dec 12, 2023*. Modified: 3:49am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 12:57am On Dec 12, 2023*. Modified: 3:50am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by Dtruthspeaker: 6:23am On Dec 12, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Is that how much you are a nobody that you are desperately seeking attention and praise? what a great inferiority. If In Truth you had sense, you would see that you said nothing. |
| Re: by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:12am On Dec 12, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Are there Jehovah's Witnesses in their society? If there is then they will all perish for not accepting Christ's teachings. A real intellectual should ask "what made Jesus' teachings the yardstick all must use to measure righteousness?" That is where you need to concentrate not looking into people's faces and saying they look cute, my own ancestors also were cute people with their own religious beliefs and from what we heard about their time most people lived by conscience back then than now. So what made me abandon their religion and accepted Jesus from far away Israel? If you care to know i'm ready to share with you but if not know today that whoever rejects the teachings of Jesus will certainly PERISH there's no doubt about it! ![]() |
| Re: by LordReed(m): 10:02am On Dec 12, 2023 |
IAmHim1:If reincarnation is true why is the human population increasing? Where are the new "souls" coming from? |
| Re: by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:38pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
LordReed:I think the eastern religions who uphold reincarnation doctrine settled that question with universal reincarnation of not just human being but animals, insects and trees. So maybe a lion that spared a cub like I saw in one documentary may reincarnate as human in next life. So population increase might be a result of animals or trees or insect or fish coming back as human |
| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 2:26am On Dec 13, 2023*. Modified: 3:50am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 2:29am On Dec 13, 2023*. Modified: 3:51am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 3:18am On Dec 13, 2023*. Modified: 3:51am On Oct 01, 2024 |
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| Re: by IAmHim1(op): 3:18am On Dec 13, 2023*. Modified: 8:19pm On Nov 14, 2024 |
| Re: by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:15am On Dec 13, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Of course they will perish because God never purposed for miscreants to bear children out of wedlock or without care so such babies are waste products only babies trained will make a better world untamed babies will become miscreants like their parents so they're waste products from the viewpoint of my own God. |
| Re: by correctguy101(m): 8:28am On Dec 13, 2023 |
IAmHim1:Then you don't really get what Hayden was tryna tell ya. Too literal and petty minded. |
| Re: by LordReed(m): 9:17am On Dec 13, 2023 |
IAmHim1: FOLYKAZE:These are very unsatisfying answers since they only lead to more questions of the same vein, like how many animals and aliens are doing so well they are getting 'promoted' (a thoroughly human centric view of the universe btw). |
| Re: by FOLYKAZE(m): 9:44am On Dec 13, 2023 |
LordReed:A solution opens door to more problem. So also is whatever I provide since you are not in that culture nor understand what their totem represents. 1. Spiritual matters do not work scientifically whereby you quantify in a particular unit how many animal or insects or sea creatures that incarnate to human. 2. Human is an higher animal in biology but in Buddha teaching, they are the lowest because they experience suffering and pains almost throughout their lifetime. So it is entirely wrong to say they get promoted. 3. I watched a Korean movie recently and got to know about a statue or totem scattered all around Jeju Island. The statue is known as Dol Hareubang which literally mean grandfather. With about thousands scattered around, across Jeju island, Japan and other Asian countries where Buddhism have foothold, it is believed that these stone images are souls, that lived and most likely going to be reborn either as human or animal or whatever. So the issue of rebirth is not necessarily limited to living beings. 4. In Yoruba culture, we actually believe in the rebirth of souls. Known as Asheyinwaye, they uphold that all entities that exist in the physical realm have consciousness and that these souls transverse between realities that are there. |
| Re: by LordReed(m): 10:30am On Dec 13, 2023 |
FOLYKAZE:It's a problem when the so called solution is only kicking the can down the road. My question was where are the new souls coming from and your answers are from insects and aliens, that has only shifted the numbers to a different direction. However of course I understand that I am not part of a culture that has embraced the concept of reincarnation so will not have as broad of a view of it but when I do ask a question and people who are more versed in it are only producing passing the buck answers then its no longer my fault, is it. The inanimate object acquired a formally living soul not that it became one by some process so I don't know how that is part of how human souls are increasing. If any of this is true, I am not seeing anything that precludes us from finding scientific evidence for it, unless of course we just gonna shift the answer to another inscrutable 'realm'. |
| Re: by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:44pm On Dec 13, 2023 |
LordReed:Reed, This problem is not mathematics where 1+X=2 can be solved by a mathematical method and arrive at a definite answer, giving a complete rest to the problem. This is philosophical and metaphysical, and any answer brought will open door to more problems especially when your premises is scientific. I need to add, there is no new soul added into the system. It is constant, like the amount of energy in the universe, not destroyed at the point of biological death or a new one created at the point of birth. This can be understood only when you see biological system as a vessel for which our souls experience the world. However, this soul can be recycled either as animal or insects or fishes or deity. To solve this puzzle, you have to see this whole lot as a circle of souls between state of existences. In Buddhism, it is believed the circle stops and soul becomes purified after attaining enlightment and merge with the supreme soul, God. In Yoruba culture, it attains Ìwà pẹ̀lẹ́ tó become Òrìṣà. I would have wanted us to explore the area of what soul, consciousness, or self is. We did in the past but really didn't scratch the surface |
| Re: by 22jumpstreet1(m): 1:37pm On Dec 13, 2023 |
another big flaw Who invented hell? 99.9% of Christians/moslems are christians/moslems because of the fear of eternal demnation in HELL.. The remaining 0.1% are those who know religion/hell to be scam but are christians/moslems because of the easy money they make from gullible followers.. The concept of 'Hell' is serious leverage for some religions, mostly, Judaism, Islam and Christianity. There is a good deal of study going on in Christian academic circles on the actual words translated into "hell," from the Hebrew and Greek words. I just bought a book on this exegetical study of hell- "The Fire That Consumes," by Edward William Fudge. This is a Christian-centric examination of the concept of hell as it evolved from the translation of the Christian Bible and also the integration and syncretism of cultural imaginative constructs of hell from cultural literary sources such as Dante's Inferno and also paintings such as Heironymous Bosch's "The Garden of Earthly Delights," which is a pretty frightening visual depiction of a concept of hell. What is interesting is that some "bible scholars" are actually dismissing the current cultural concept of hell because of a scholarly examination of the Bible texts and words. Two words translated as "hell" in the Bible are the Hebrew word "Sheol" which can literally mean grave, and the Aramaic word, "Gehenna" which is a place name outside of Jerusalem for burning refuse. Neither Gehenna or Sheol actually have inherent to them the idea of a place of everlasting torture or torment. The idea of everlasting torment is actually a concept that was expounded into a more fearsome and gruesome concept especially by the Catholic Christian church.. So the very interesting idea is that the concept of "Hell" Biblically back then was a rather tame concept of simply death or quick annihilation that the early Christian church expounded on and expanded to further instill fear and control over its followers. This frightening concept of hell was useful to badger and force Christians into obedience by especially the early Catholic Church. They needed a firm totalitarian grip of their followers then other religions like Islam borrowed it.. Think of it this way, There is no mention of hell in the Christian Old Testament. Hell is exclusively a New Testament doctrine. 😁 * "Omniscient" Bible god changed his mind and decided to introduce "hell" in the new testament? * When was hell Created according to the bible? THEY KNOW THEIR RELIGIONS CAN'T SURVIVE WITHOUT YOUR FEAR😱 |
| Re: by LordReed(m): 1:51pm On Dec 13, 2023 |
FOLYKAZE:So basically all the "souls" that will ever be have already been, they are just cycling between different types of existence? |
| Re: by Maynman: 2:12pm On Dec 13, 2023 |
FOLYKAZE:Please in Buddhism go and better understand it, they have no concept of SOUL, the Soul does not exist. They call it Anatta. The Soul is not an individual, it's supra individual. |
| Re: by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:31pm On Dec 13, 2023 |
Maynman:Atman |
| Re: by Maynman: 2:34pm On Dec 13, 2023 |
FOLYKAZE:It's rejected in Buddhism. They have Anatta. Where are you getting your whack info if can't get the correct information on the MAIN BASIS of Buddhism? |
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