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Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:26pm On Dec 28, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: After telling you: MaxInDHouse: OK nah! |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 8:36pm On Dec 28, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse: You just don's want to believe in Jesus christ in Mark 16:15,17 &18 as you don't want to pick up snakes and speak in Japanese so your excuse is that The book of Mark 16 ends at verse 8, are you not an enemy of Jesus christ by removing the things he has spoken. Mark 16:15,18 15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all” |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:43pm On Dec 28, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Continue the Ostrich game! Mark chapter 16 ends @ verse 8 Check several versions then we can talk but if you're just interested in trolling it's OK. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 8:48pm On Dec 28, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You started the Ostrich game and the trolling and now you can't keep up. Are you saying all these versions below are wrong? Mark 16:18 Modern Translations New International Version they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well." New Living Translation They will be able to handle snakes with safety, and if they drink anything poisonous, it won’t hurt them. They will be able to place their hands on the sick, and they will be healed.” English Standard Version they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover.” Berean Study Bible they will pick up snakes with their hands, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be made well.” New American Standard Bible they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not harm them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” NASB 1995 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." NASB 1977 they will pick up serpents, and if they drink any deadly poison, it shall not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” Amplified Bible they will pick up serpents, and if they drink anything deadly, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will get well.” Christian Standard Bible they will pick up snakes; if they should drink anything deadly, it will not harm them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will get well.” Holman Christian Standard Bible they will pick up snakes; if they should drink anything deadly, it will never harm them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will get well." Contemporary English Version They will handle snakes and will drink poison and not be hurt. They will also heal sick people by placing their hands on them. Good News Translation if they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be harmed; they will place their hands on sick people, and these will get well." GOD'S WORD® Translation They will pick up snakes, and if they drink any deadly poison, it will not hurt them. They will place their hands on the sick and cure them." International Standard Version and they will pick up snakes with their hands. Even if they drink any deadly poison it will not hurt them; and the'll place their hands on the sick, and they'll recover." NET Bible they will pick up snakes with their hands, and whatever poison they drink will not harm them; they will place their hands on the sick and they will be well." Classic Translations King James Bible They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. New King James Version they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” King James 2000 Bible They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. New Heart English Bible they will pick up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it will not harm them; they will place their hands on the sick, and they will be made well." World English Bible they will take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it will in no way hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." American King James Version They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. American Standard Version they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in no wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. A Faithful Version They shall remove serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them in any way; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover." Darby Bible Translation they shall take up serpents; and if they should drink any deadly thing it shall not injure them; they shall lay hands upon the infirm, and they shall be well. English Revised Version they shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall in no wise hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Webster's Bible Translation They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Early Modern Geneva Bible of 1587 And shall take away serpents, and if they shall drinke any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lay their handes on the sicke, and they shall recouer. Bishops' Bible of 1568 They shall driue away serpentes: and yf they drinke any deadly thyng, it shall not hurte them: They shall lay their handes on the sicke, & they shal recouer. Coverdale Bible of 1535 Dryue awaye serpetes: And yf they drynke eny deedly thinge, it shal not hurte them: They shal laye their handes vpo the sicke, and they shal recouer. Tyndale Bible of 1526 and shall kyll serpentes. And yf they drinke eny dedly thinge yt shall not hurte the. They shall laye their hondes on ye sicke and they shall recover. Literal Translations Literal Standard Version they will take up serpents; and if they may drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the ailing, and they will be well.” Berean Literal Bible and with their hands they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it shall never hurt them; they will lay hands upon the sick, and they will be well." Young's Literal Translation serpents they shall take up; and if any deadly thing they may drink, it shall not hurt them; on the ailing they shall lay hands, and they shall be well.' Smith's Literal Translation They shall take up serpents; and should they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall put hands upon the sick, and they shall be well. Literal Emphasis Translation And in their hands They will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly it shall not hurt them; they will lay hands upon the sick and they will be well. Catholic Translations Douay-Rheims Bible They shall take up serpents; and if they shall drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them: they shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they shall recover. Catholic Public Domain Version They will take up serpents, and, if they drink anything deadly, it will not harm them. They shall lay their hands upon the sick, and they will be well.” Translations from Aramaic Aramaic Bible in Plain English “And they will take up snakes, and if they should drink lethal poison, it will not harm them, and they will place their hands on the sick and they will be healed.” Lamsa Bible And they will pick up snakes; and if they should drink any poison of death, it will not harm them; and they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will be healed. NT Translations Anderson New Testament they shall take up serpents; and, if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Haweis New Testament they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly potion, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover health. Mace New Testament they shall handle serpents, and if they drink any mortal poison, it shall do them no hurt: they shall lay hands on the sick, and the sick shall recover. Weymouth New Testament They shall take up venomous snakes, and if they drink any deadly poison it shall do them no harm whatever. They shall lay their hands on the sick, and the sick shall recover." Worrell New Testament they will take up serpents; and, if they drink any deadly thing, it will not hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover." Worsley New Testament they shall take up serpents, and if they should drink any thing poisonous, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall be well. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:04pm On Dec 28, 2023 |
Do you take the time to READ the preface? They will tell you that it ends at verse 8 but since other versions includes long endings they also copied it. For instance in the interlenear this is what is found: LONG CONCLUSION Certain ancient manuscripts (ACD) and Versions (VgSycp) add the following long conclusion. SHORT CONCLUSION Some late manuscripts and versions contain a short conclusion after Mark 16:8, as follows: But the most oldest manuscripts stops at verse 8. So if you believe in the books you should be able to figure out which is true because Jesus only sent his Jewish disciples to perform miracles within the Jews {Matthew 10:5-6} and he himself expressly told a none Jewish woman that miracles and it's imminent benefit is strictly for Jews. Matthew 15:24 Moreover God has never empowered anyone outside the children of Jacob to perform miracles. Now the ball is in your court! |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 8:29am On Dec 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The manuscripts for the New Testament too are fictional stories written to follow the trend just like the speaking in thongs and speaking in garbage today many people are copying just to follow the trend. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27am On Dec 29, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: This is what i'm saying, you don't want to hear anything about the books in the first place so you're trying to condemn it no matter what is found in it! |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by elder1002: 9:51am On Dec 29, 2023 |
Muslims make sure they guard their forum and made it to look like once you comment on their thread you automatically have converted to islam. Why can't we implement such in our Christianity forum Like i said, there is nothing like one Nigeria expecially when it comes to religion... Imagine even nairaland is now deep into religion
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Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MightySparrow: 12:39pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: The scriptures are true. The problem is that today, science and philosophy have taken the place of spirituality in Christianity. Some people even when confused misinterpret the scriptures and teach their congregations faithlessness such as Jehovah's Witnesses's and MaximumSide. I believe in the scriptures you qouted without question and it works for me. You cannot develop a doctrine around only one verse. Are there other verses that say or imply the same thing? Mark 11:23, Acts 1:8; 1 Corinthians 12. All these talk about supernatural manifestations of believers. So, if you walk around faith talkers and users, you will have the Bible results. Our God has not changed. If He seems far away, it is man that moved away. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 3:12pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MightySparrow: MaxInDHouse: The New Testament is a fictional story of an invented Jesus christ and it's used to mess up the minds of the gullible ones who truly believes this fiction. The truth is that most of those preaching the New Testament fiction don't believe what they are preaching but are just using it as a tool to control others who are gullible. Though we don't have the Original Old Testament, but we can still find the True God of the Jews in the Old Testament. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MightySparrow: 9:54pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Anyway, I like the fiction, it plays out as truthful script for me. My gullibility pays off. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by ItShallPass: 10:46pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MightySparrow: He shuts down all evidences to the contrary and holds on firmly to what demons echo into his ears. The Romans invented Jesus and still killed almost all the disciples of the invented Jesus. The Romans invented Jesus and still laboured to stamp out Christianity for more than 300yrs until the days of Constantine. The Romans invented Jesus and yet early Christians had to write successive roman emperors in defence of Christianity. You don't need to argue with such fools. Personally I don't have the time for fools. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 10:51pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
ItShallPass: And your invented Jesus christ abandoned his second coming to appear to Constantine 300 year later to help Constantine fight his own civil war in Rome. Don't you see you are the BIG FOOLL |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:52pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:All you've ever want to say! |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 10:59pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The New Testament says it too, you just need to read the fictional stories with a clear mind to know I'm right. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:19pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:Without the New Testament the Old is useless to me! |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 11:34pm On Dec 29, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: The original Old Testament is the True word of God, but your New Testament is a fictional story. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MightySparrow: 3:44am On Dec 30, 2023 |
ItShallPass: Thanks brother. I responded to the thread and he came in typing rubbish. I think he is arrogant in his conceit. Happy New Year in advance. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by ItShallPass: 4:44am On Dec 30, 2023 |
MightySparrow: You can see the empty response he gave me? Something is really wrong with his brains for him to have said Jesus abandoned His second coming to appear to Constantine as if it's only Constantine that Jesus has ever appeared to My own father was a Muslim. A chronic one. It was not possible for anyone to convert him to Christianity through preaching. Jesus Himself had to do it by Himself. His salvation experience was purely a miracle. I'll find time to narrate it someday. I just pity the guy. Wishing you the same happy and prosperous new year in advance. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:51am On Dec 30, 2023 |
MindHacker9009:If you believe in GOD and you truly know what that title means we wouldn't be having this conversation because GOD will not allow His word to be manipulated to the extent that the people who hated it will be able to overturn it's ORIGINAL purpose. Let whoever has the original or those having it make use of it so that the world could testify to the benefit of that so called ORIGINAL you're talking about. Isaiah 48:17-18 In the absence of obvious benefits then the god you're talking about is DEAD you shouldn't be fighting and arguing in behalf of a god who can't ORGANIZE his own people for others to learn from them. Isaiah 43:10-12 The story of Jesus has done a lot in the things written as prophesy which should be fulfilled in our own time that's why your argument that Jesus never existed won't fly! |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MightySparrow: 7:07am On Dec 30, 2023 |
ItShallPass: Thanks so much brother. 1 Like |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 1:44pm On Dec 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Your fictional 3 in 1 god in the New Testament that says all fictional power is given onto him and those that believe in him will do greater fictional works than him yet none of you have done any of the things he has listed below. God Almighty of the Old Testament is only True living God and His is not your fictional 3 in 1 god in the New Testament that was crucified by the Roman Empire and 300 years he went to Rome to help them fight their civil war after his fictional resurrection and fictional accession. Mark 16:15,18 15 He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 "They will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all” |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 1:53pm On Dec 30, 2023 |
ItShallPass: You can see the empty response you gave. Something is really wrong with your brains since you have been made to believe a fiction of your invented Jesus christ. Christians too become muslims, traditionalist, atheist etc because they too have had an encounter with their new religion. If your brain is not empty then show which of these Jesuses in these depictions over the centuries people have had an encounter with. God Almighty of the original Old Testament is the only True God.
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Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:02pm On Dec 30, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Since you don't want to know the truth it's better to allow you do your own talking but note that Jehovah my own God is not 3 in 1 He is the father and God of all. This is what Jesus taught us about the one and only true God: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’" John 20:17 So according to Jesus his father is my father and his God is my God. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MindHacker9009(m): 3:56pm On Dec 30, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Your Roman empire idol 3 in 1 god in your idol Testament/New Testament is not the same as the True God of the Torah/Old Testament. The True God of the Torah is not a 3 in 1 god, His is The I AM THAT I AM AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE BESIDE HIM. So go and look for your 3 in 1 Roman empire idol god else where sitting beside his father. |
Re: Why Are These Signs Spoken By Jesus Not Following Believers Today? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08pm On Dec 30, 2023 |
MindHacker9009: Guy Jehovah my own God is not 3 in 1 so you missed it big time! |
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