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Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Babaken(m): 2:08pm On Jan 27 |
Tinubu and his team so so mouth. 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Agboriotejoye(m): 2:59pm On Jan 27 |
aswani:I think it's becoming a culture in Nigerian politics to blame the predecessor(s) for any malaise happening on the watch of a sitting political leader. We saw it with Buhari. "Jonathan's corrupt govt" was the song for every setback under Buhari till the man left office. He was painted as the man cleaning the augean stable. I even remember a cartoon picture of him washing the Nigerian flag. He's out of the picture now and his successor Tinubu is also being labelled as correcting the wrongs of his predecessors. The simple question to ask is if correcting previous wrongs should make a bad situation worse or improve it. Tinubu met CBN rate at 400. Today it is at 900 The parallel market was around 750 when he took office. Today, it is at 1400. Compare the gap between the two and you'll see that the currency is worse off on all indices. You're still playing the same game that destroyed this country under Buhari. You guys are not yet ready to be honest with yourselves. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:14pm On Jan 27 |
aswani:Again, there is nothing like subsidy or artifical value of a currency. A currency is not a commodity like fuel that is produced and sold for a profit. I can see the other guy correcting you on that too. You're not conversant with what you're discussing. Your aim is simply to defend Tinubu regardless of whether you understand what you're defending or not. What you call subsidy is simply defending the naira which is part of CBN's core functions. If you claim that defending the naira is subsidising it, what do you now call countries like China who deliberately devalue their currency? Do you call that removal of subsidy? In any case, the route to the easy money which you condemned still exists since the official rate is 900 and parallel market rate is 1400. Petrol subsidy also exists till now as well since the price of 600 is artificial as the landing cost is over 700. Go figure 5 Likes |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by tensazangetsu20(m): 3:17pm On Jan 27 |
Lol on your mandate we shall stand. It's not even 9 months yet 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Gerrard59(m): 3:26pm On Jan 27 |
The naira is at best where it is and should even decline further. What Tinubu should do is promote exports or, at least, ease the process of exporting. The small agro exports we dey do, Fulani herdsmen would not allow farmers farm in peace. What am I even saying? Didn't Tinubu utter "Where are the cows/herdsmen" when those marauders were ransacking forests in Ondo? 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by killsmith(f): 3:32pm On Jan 27 |
The money supply is in the hands of crooks and you're asking why there's inflation? Una never ready to use una head. 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by aswani(m): 3:36pm On Jan 27 |
Agboriotejoye: The other guy that is asking me "what is the real value of the Naira" is who you are hanging your hat on? I am not defending President Tinubu, I might as well accuse you of defending past Presidents who have made the mess he is trying to clear up but I won't. He didnt meet a healthy economy and is taking steps to turn it round. Those that did full terms and left things worse for the incoming government's are the ones we should be hailing. I will not join you on that. 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by fregeneh(m): 3:41pm On Jan 27 |
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Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:47pm On Jan 27 |
aswani:I'm not hanging my hat on anyone. I'm simply enlightening you. There's nothing like subsidising currency in real terms. One of the core functions of CBN is defending the naira when needed and devaluing it when expedient. I already gave you clear links especially under PDP presidents that I know of who floated the naira. So your claim that every govt before Tinubu controlled the value of the naira is simply false. You have to take an education when it is offered and accept when you're wrong. Nobody left things worse for Tinubu. You guys are just making that claim to deflect from his incompetence. If 700 exchange rate was worse, how do you now call sinking it to 1400 correcting that wrong? Are we progressing or retrogressing? 4 Likes |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by RepoMan007: 4:07pm On Jan 27 |
If Tinubu truly knew the value of maintaining production and thus supply to keep prices down and demands met, he won't tax Lagosians heavily then leave them at the mercy of thugs and area-boys to be extorted. What he knows is Nigerian politics of using money to get power at all cost. I always knew he was going to struggle to inspire increased productivity. Even his attempt at taxing Nigerian after subsidy removal is a strong pointer to that. What I didn't bargain for regarding the naira palaver is the naira sliding further down after local diesel production. 2 Likes |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by RepoMan007: 4:15pm On Jan 27 |
Agboriotejoye:How will the Naira be devalued by CBN? The naira has to go down because those at the top can't inspire productivity locally. His focus was to tax the people heavily after subsidy removal and pay salaries then do projects. He is just realizing economy is production centered. If we produce fuel and food to cover 100% local needs for example, there will be no need to go out to buy either of those. That will mean more dollar to sell to industries trying to get machines and raw materials. If we stop using scarce dollar to do.pilgrimage every year, same effect as local production can be achieved. What of importation of non-essential luxuries like hair and wine? His predecessor used insecurity and amnesty drive to kill whatever production gains the north made. He himself is just realizing printing of money to pay salary is the fatstes way to hyperinflation. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by ZaddyJ: 4:17pm On Jan 27 |
lukui:Baba dunlop left since the era of baba OBJ not Tifnubu era |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by aribisala0(m): 4:20pm On Jan 27 |
Validated: Tinubu cannot and should not reverse exchange rate slide It is a symptom not the disease The disease is that Nigerians are unproductive. Very bitter truth.You What do you make in Nigeria that they buy with dollars That is the ultimate question Our young people have a sense of entitlement to all the good things from abroad YOU have to pay for that by being productive and making something that brings dollars into the country Your peers around the world are moving into artificial intelligence you are collecting peanuts from Yahoo and happy. All we know is olosho,fraud ,burglary and cultism Young people want to blow without effort. People all over the world fix their countries. Stop waiting for government. Find a way to be productive and stop waiting for government. Our sense of entitlement to good stuff does not match what we contribute to humanity. 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by RepoMan007: 4:27pm On Jan 27 |
thesolutions:So accurate! No local production means more import and when one guy imports rices with dollar and converts to weak naira, prices become higher locally. The local farmer capitalize on that to push for more profit by arguing that rice cost close to what foreigners sell it to produce it. How can a man who taxed Lagosians and watched them get extorted by thugs know anything aboutghe value of local production and conducive business environment. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by lastkingsman: 9:57pm On Jan 27 |
Gerrard59: "We reduce the purchasing power of the people, we can further slow down the economy; let's widen the tax net for those who are not paying now. If it's inclusive of 'boy' Bola Tinubu, let the net get bigger and we take in more taxes and that's what we must do in this country" - Bola Ahmed Tinubu, 23 August, 2022 I don't understand why people are expecting this man to do what he didn't promise. He's exactly fulfilling his campaign promises and people are complaining. The next step is to delink revenue from expenditures. That's when USD will hit 5000 naira |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by lastkingsman: 10:01pm On Jan 27 |
tensazangetsu20: JAGABAN in Wike voice 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Haywix: 10:47pm On Jan 27 |
aribisala0: This is the first time I'll comment in a long time cause I hate engaging brain dead people on Nairaland... what you said here is rubbish. The basic things needed for production is not provided. 1. Electricity 2. Good road 3. Long term loans If you can't blame government for this then you're a fool... your government make billions on tax on Generator importing, that's the reason you don't have stable electricity till now and you want to blame the citizens? 2 Likes |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Baxilexi(m): 7:16am On Jan 28 |
In a country with crude oil, lithium, LNG, Gold, Copper and over 40 minerals, groundnut, shea butter, bene seed, rubber in addition to Human Resources which is vital to production (even at the comparatively lower wage level cc China and Bangladeshi) we still use the term we need to produce more. How about manage our resources better? We wouldn’t all fit into the finished goods arena but we can find our place in the global value chain setup. To reiterate, the average Nigerian has a very low demand for USD compared to the Middle East, Europe, South America etc. Taking a poll, what does the average Nigerian pay for in USD? Holiday travels? Tear rubber cars? Subscriptions? Big or Medium brand new couture? (An original Nike or Adidas is upwards of $60, Ralph Lauren is upwards 100$ (on sale mostly), so what fraction of the population can afford that), an average Emirati spends in a year USD to the tone of 150,000$ (that by my estimation is what over 500-750 average Nigerians collectively earn in a year). The biggest consumer of Nigeria’s forex is the government at all levels. Cc UNGA/ Dubai Conference Not importers or the citizens. The biggest killer of production is the government. They mine minerals through unregistered companies, they share oil fields/other resources based off friendships, (food for thoughts, have you ever heard of any other upstream company complain about oil theft except NNPCL?), They take loans and receive aid that don’t reflect nor affect in the economy, our population replacement rate is not as high as it once was (especially with the increase in unatural and extrajudicial killings) so where does the government spend both internally and externally generated revenues? Where are the benefits from subsidy removal? Is PH refinery up and running? Nigerians we don’t need to individually all produce something, the government should be transparent with our oil and non-oil earnings. Protect investors interests, if we can’t export our own natural resources they’re thousands of companies that can come setup and sell these resources, and pay staffers in foreign currency. 3 Likes |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by nairalanda1(m): 7:19am On Jan 28 |
Tinubu cannot halt naira slide because he is running an economy that keeps our revenue based on how much raw materails we sell. And he is keeping it on one raw material...meaning our forex earnings depend on the rise and fall of the price of that material...which is a disaster for our naira. Add our growing demand for foreign stuff, and you get the picture. I don't see APC changing course...because changing course means even more hardship before it gets better. They would just keep things the same old way, while taking loans to cover our ass..lol. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by nairalanda1(m): 7:21am On Jan 28 |
Baxilexi: NO, how about we use all those resources and make exportable manufactured goods and services. We would earn far more than just selling them to other countries to process...and then sell back finished product to us at an even higher price. (Government should reduce spending, that's a fact...but government spending is not why we have a dollar crisis). Modifed Government polices are why we have a dollar crisis. Goverment misspending is a symptom, not the cause. 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:27pm On Jan 28 |
nairalanda1:Tomorrow, you'll come and claim you don't defend govt and you don't like govt. Just own your APC with your full chest. No one will shoot you. You did not even attempt to debunk the points the guy made about lack of transparency in govt |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by RepoMan007: 12:50pm On Jan 28 |
nairalanda1:Comprehend before you talk. The person you quoted expressed what you replied better and you didn't see that. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Artscollection: 3:03pm On Jan 28 |
aswani: Defending your currency is not totally bad if it is done with a Good objective especially if you are diversing but It is always different with our country. Corruption is the problem here!! There are measures to counter the rising naira, Diaspora remittance can solve this problem by atleast 60% if harnessed properly. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by aswani(m): 3:08pm On Jan 28 |
Artscollection: An excellent point well made, especially the part about how Diaspora remmitance could somehow be harnessed to "help" the Naira. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Artscollection: 3:16pm On Jan 28 |
MadamExcellency: Printing money is never the problem,just those dumb thieves in charge. Go n check How much america printed last yr n still had a single digit inflation, i don't want to talk about China. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by badoh(m): 3:45pm On Jan 28 |
SalamRushdie:Simple thing, you no know. Was he the one that removed Subsidy? For crying out loud, there was no provision for subsidy effective July 2023 and Buhari was the one that prepared the budget, Tinubu only announced that it has been removed. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by SalamRushdie: 3:56pm On Jan 28 |
badoh: Keep deceiving yourself |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by nairalanda1(m): 4:28pm On Jan 28 |
Agboriotejoye: Okay kukutente. You know that saying that government is not the cause of our dollar problem does not mean that there isn't a dollar problem and that the government is not improving it by making us earn more dollars But because you think i supoort apc becauae i sup port subsidy removal you are blind to.see it Good evening and get off my mentions, good sir. I don't respond to bullies like you. Consider this a break in normal service |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by nairalanda1(m): 4:29pm On Jan 28 |
RepoMan007: Oaky pdpapc supporter. You are so eager to say that i am wrong that you miss the wood for the trees Well, good evening apcpdp supporter. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Iamanoited: 5:13pm On Jan 28 |
The BANKERS ARE LOOTING THE TREASURY TO FOREIGN LANDS. I THINK THAT TINUBU IS HELPLESS. I PLEAD THAT EMILOKAN WILL NOT REVERT TO CLANDESTINE LOOTERS COVEN. |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by Agboriotejoye(m): 5:15pm On Jan 28 |
nairalanda1:Who is kukutent? You said govt spending is not the cause of our dollar crisis in response to the guy saying govt is the highest spender of dollars. The question is if it is factual that govt is the highest spender of dollars. The answer is a definite yes. So why defend govt by claiming we're simply not making enough dollars to meet govt needs? What is obvious to the unbiased is that Nigeria's over-reliance on dollars is a a result of the proclivity of our elites, mostly politicians for ostentatious foreign goods. Meanwhile most of them hardly bring in any value in terms of dollars. Just imagine if US was also basing the strength of its economy on the amount of naira or yuan in its reserve. How do you think their economy will look like? Dollarisation of the economy is as a result of govt and politician's lust for foreign goods. Tinubu is presently in France on "private visit" Buhari had his in UK for eight years 1 Like |
Re: How Is It That Tinubu Cannot Halt Naira Downward Slide? by nairalanda1(m): 5:17pm On Jan 28 |
Agboriotejoye: LIke I said, I don't answer people whose jobs is to put down those who disagree with them We disagree. That is fine. But putting me down because I don't agree with you is not good. Good evening. You can do better. (FIN). |
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