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Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by aariwa(m): 5:49am On Feb 14
ElSudani:
No matter how much you cry or shrieking your cries become. It will not change the fact that Tinubu was left with a mess and he is doing his best to clear them up.
Nobody is saying things are rosy but to heap all the blame on someone who came to power just 8 months ago is a bit of a stretch.
We won't fall for it. So, keep on crying.
same excuse buhari started and ended up blaming Jonathan for eight years, even on the eve of his departure he was still blaming Jonathan. An 8 year old child should be in primary 3 or 4 and buhari not only couldn’t make a change in 8 years made Nigeria completely worse. A failure is a failure. Are the people tinubu is working today the technocrats he promised Nigerians? Wike, onanuga etc A CBN governor with a degree in engineering, a member of more than 30 social clubs , ruined naira totally and turned it into worthless piece of paper within 8 months, reads press briefings from written piece of paper etc.. is he somebody a sane person should expect to or be part of a team to turn Nigeria around? Well maybe same people that believed buhari 8 years of blaming Jonathan would probably believe tinubu balderdash of same story . A failure is a failure, even if you give tinubu another 30 years he cannot change anything but make the country worse
Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by Antivirus92(m): 8:10am On Feb 14
ElSudani:


What made you think I cheered on Buhari?
because you will still come back here after 8 years and tinubu handed over to another apc criminal like him to ask "what made you think I cheered on tinubu"
Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by TopBanter: 8:12am On Feb 14
Sirmwill:
As per this post is Targeted against Tinubu

It won't near front page 🥂

How many of these sort of threads do you want on the front page when like 100 of them, very unobjective and saying precisely the same things repeatedly, are posted daily by a particular group of people and them alone?

Make una dey reason am na. Na only some people wake come or are we to believe they have ever, in the totality of our history as a nation, shown patriotic zeal to now validate this current and constant barrage of doom and gloom forecasting they are trying to disguise as 'patriotic care' for governance of the "Zoo"?

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Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by LordBillionz: 8:14am On Feb 14
ElSudani:
No matter how much you cry or shrieking your cries become. It will not change the fact that Tinubu was left with a mess and he is doing his best to clear them up.
Nobody is saying things are rosy but to heap all the blame on someone who came to power just 8 months ago is a bit of a stretch.
We won't fall for it. So, keep on crying.
Aside blame, you all have nothing with which to defend Tinubu. That's was the case with Buhari and the song haven't changed till now. And if your candidate would emerge as president after Tinubu, you will continue the blame game.

Keep it on. You're doing well.

When Jonathan took over from Yar'Adua after the later's death, he made Nigeria the fastest growing economy. But Tinubu ganged up with Buhari to feed you with lies and promises and when they eventually got hold of the power, on realising they are failures, they started blaming Jonathan. This has become a tradition for you and it ain't ending soon. Always blame others for your failures instead of taking responsibility - it is a virtue.
Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by TopBanter: 9:03am On Feb 14
LordBillionz:

Aside blame, you all have nothing with which to defend Tinubu. That's was the case with Buhari and the song haven't changed till now. And if your candidate would emerge as president after Tinubu, you will continue the blame game.

Keep it on. You're doing well.

What do you mean we have nothing to defend Tinubu with when the reality is that it is you and your ilk who have deliberately decided to remain blind to how transformative some of his reforms will be if given time to work.

In a nutshell, the biggest problem of Nigeria today, aside Buhari's deliberate bankrupting our country, is a stagnant, non-diversified and disgracefully unproductive economy matched with equally unproductive human resources like you.

Those considerations have bedevilled our economy and always will so far as we keep gaining Presidents like OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ and Buhari who wish to subsidize everything just to keep personally very broke and unproductive Nigerians, most only like 5k naira away from bankruptcy, happy that they are living, eating and breathing.

Yet should that be enough? Even if you have never left Nigeria, the Internet shows us how others live worldwide !!!

The reform-averse and subsidy-dependent practices of all our Presidents since 1999, is no way to secure development and dignity for a nation. All the subsidies (on electricity, petrol and even artificially and deceptively shoring up the value of the Naira) were making us bankrupt and pushing us towards failed Nation status.

Like putting a bandage over a wound caused by cancer yet you have no interest fighting and defeating the cancer. Surely death is inevitable.

If nations were people Nigerians would be the equivalent of hand-to-mouth loafers who only scurry around looking for what to eat this minute and trying to get through the day while citizens of developed nation, showing the status we should seek if informed and ambitious, are productive and earning living wages that covers their feeding, bills, general cost of living and even leave them something to save for a rainy day.

Most Nigerians remain stagnant their whole life with many never being able to afford a car, house, take holidays etc.

All because of leadership dishonesty that simply want to bribe simpletons with food and cheap petrol to shut them up. Elsewhere worldwide, citizens demand more. Far more.

The incredible danger of that self-serving approach by leaders is that Nigerians have no buffers to insulate them even a little bit from the smallest emergency same as Nigeria too is always on edge due to an unproductive economy that is dangerously undiversified away from dependence on crude earnings and has been looted to a stupor recently.

To change this for the better, with triumvirate positive developmental effect on the Nigerian economy, Nigerian people and the ability of both to be part of the solutions propelling us towards developed nation status, then holistic reforms, which many be painful in the short term, has to be embraced.

To say you want a return to conditions under OBJ, GEJ and Buhari means the plan of leaders to make you 'poverty crack addict' is working.

They give you basics, even though that basic is actually nothing in comparison to what your peers enjoy worldwide, while they luxuriate in garish opulence even far more productive Western leaders never seek to commandeer for themselves.

As an example, Nigerians fo not even know they chase cheap petrol because if poor transport option and poor power supply. Instead of rioting for return of petrol to 86 naira per litre, why not protest uncompromisingly for government ot declare state of emergency on transport and power?

The UK has one of the highest petrol pump pride in the world yet many citizens are not concerned because they do have have to buy their own car and don't know what power outage is.

This is the crude and terrible system Tinubu is trying to change but he will have his work cut out for him because many Nigerians are too illiterate and poverty-ridden to ever be interested in reading or researching to note, for the first time and as obtained with Awolowo, a leader wants to teach them to fish rather than give them fish, as others have done, only for Nigerians to be worthless, skilless and ' ebi pa mi' desperate when the fish can no longer be provided by leaders.

Things are not helped by supposedly educated Nigerians like you who have huge appetite for ethno-religious discrimination and mischief but non for genuinely and uncompromisingly supporting progressive developments and reforms I suspect, deep down, you know will transform Nigeria.

Goodluck to all of you. However it goes down, Tinubu, or any President, will never be able to give what he and the completely bankrupt and unproductively worthless Nigerian economy cannot give you. A stone cannot give you a bucket of water.

Better to take time to understand solutions needed and support them so we escape our chains once and for all.

Or we can continue to display crab in a bucket mentality where Nigerians will never escape poverty and underdevelopment because what keeps you poor and underdeveloped (disguised as "assistive" subsidy, palliatives and cheap fuel) you cannot sacrificially let go of for a considerably better tomorrow for you and generations unborn.

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Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by LordBillionz: 10:16am On Feb 14
TopBanter:


What do you mean we have nothing to defend Tinubu with when the reality is that it is you and your ilk who have deliberately decided to remain blind to how transformative some of his reforms will be if given time to work.


if given time to work? And announcing the removal of fuel subsidy and floating of naira on his first day in office even when he yet to assemble a team to work with was the best? and this is you subtly planting a hook to hang on to further blame the past presidents should the supposed saviour of your fails. The time was not enough?

TopBanter:

In a nutshell, the biggest problem of Nigeria today, aside Buhari's deliberate bankrupting our country, is a stagnant, non-diversified and disgracefully unproductive economy matched with equally unproductive[b] human resources like you. [/b]

And you deem yourself productive because you wrote this lengthy piece riddled with same blames on past leadership while elevating Tinubu as the saviour instead of taking responsibility?
TopBanter:

Those considerations have bedevilled our economy and always will so far as we keep gaining Presidents like OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ and Buhari who wish to subsidize everything just to keep personally very broke and unproductive Nigerian, most only like 5k naira awy from bankruptcy, happy rhat they are living, eating and breathing.


Yet should that be enough? Even if you have never left Nigeria, the Internet shows us how others live worldwide !!!
This same internet did not show you about cost of governance and security amongst others which?


TopBanter:

The reform-averse and subsidy-dependent practices of all our Presidents since 1999, is no way to secure development and dignity for a nation. All the subsidies (on electricity, petrol and even artificially and deceptively shoring up the value of the Naira) were making us bankrupt and pushing us towards failed Nation status.

Like putting a bandage over a wound caused by cancer yet you have no interest fighting and defeating the cancer. Surely death is inevitable.

If nations were people Nigerians would be the equivalent of hand-to-mouth loafers who only scurry around looking for what to eat this minute and trying to get through the day while citizens of developed nation, showing the status we should seek if informed and ambitious, are productive and earning living wages that covers their feeding, bills, general cost of living and even leave them something to save for a rainy day.

Most Nigerians remain stagnant their whole life with many never being able to afford a car, house, take holidays etc.

All because of leadership dishonesty that simply want to bribe simpletons with food and cheap petrol to shut them up. Elsewhere worldwide, citizens demand more. Far more.

The incredible danger of that self-serving approach by leaders is that Nigerians have no buffers to insulate them even a little bit from the smallest emergency same as Nigeria too is always on edge due to an unproductive economy that is dangerously undiversified away from dependence on crude earnings and has been looted to a stupor recently.

To change this for the better, with triumvirate positive developmental effect on the Nigerian economy, Nigerian people and the ability of both to be part of the solutions propelling us towards developed nation status, then holistic reforms, which many be painful in the short term, has to be embraced.

To say you want a return to conditions under OBJ, GEJ and Buhari means the plan of leaders to make you 'poverty crack addict' is working.

They give you basics, even though that basic is actually nothing in comparison to what your peers enjoy worldwide, while they luxuriate in garish opulence even far more productive Western leaders never seek to commandeer for themselves.

As an example, Nigerians fo not even know they chase cheap petrol because if poor transport option and poor power supply. Instead of rioting for return of petrol to 86 naira per litre, why not protest uncompromisingly for government ot declare state of emergency on transport and power?

The UK has one of the highest petrol pump pride in the world yet many citizens are not concerned because they do have have to buy their own car and don't know what power outage is.

This is the crude and terrible system Tinubu is trying to change but he will have his work cut out for him because many Nigerians are too illiterate and poverty-ridden to ever be interested in reading or researching to note, for the first time and as obtained with Awolowo, a leader wants to teach them to fish rather than give them fish, as others have done, only for Nigerians to be worthless, skilless and ' ebi pa mi' desperate when the fish can no longer be provided by leaders.
TopBanter:

Things are not helped by supposedly educated Nigerians like you who have huge appetite for ethno-religious discrimination and mischief but non for genuinely and uncompromisingly supporting progressive developments and reforms I suspect, deep down, you know will transform Nigeria.
grin grin grin Really? I give up on you. If you are not guilty of what you are accusing others of, why will you be supporting someone who sees governance as a position to reward those loyal to him instead of assigning duties to capable hands?
And, its a good thing that their failure is felt even by those in their circle that they are telling themselves they have failed. And you are here typing nonsense why deeming yourself educated?
TopBanter:

Goodluck to all of you. However it goes down, Tinubu, or any President, will never be able to give what he and the completely bankrupt and unproductively worthless Nigerian economy cannot give you. A stone cannot give you a bucket of water.


Better to take time to understand solutions needed and support them so we escape our chains once and for all.

Or we can continue to display crab in a bucket mentality where Nigerians will never escape poverty and underdevelopment because what keeps you poor and underdeveloped (disguised as "assistive" subsidy, palliatives and cheap fuel) you cannot sacrificially let go of for a considerably better tomorrow for you and generations unborn.

Mr. productive and educated, you have said nothing but hooks to hang on to defend the imminent failure of you principal.

And your Saviour has returned subsidy through backdoor but guess what? He didn't announce this.

Keep defending rubbish

Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by jude79(m): 1:12pm On Feb 14
ElSudani:
No matter how much you cry or shrieking your cries become. It will not change the fact that Tinubu was left with a mess and he is doing his best to clear them up.
Nobody is saying things are rosy but to heap all the blame on someone who came to power just 8 months ago is a bit of a stretch.
We won't fall for it. So, keep on crying.


Let's assume that tinubu is not at fault, infact let narrow everything down, let's forget security, economy, human development index, let use differentiation dy/dx, get the infinitesimal factor of development, electricity generation only
Let's remove any excuse factor both, helping and declining factor, let's look at the true figures
Jonathan of PDP, left 7000 megawatts
Buhari and Tinubu of APC has brought us down to 3000 megawatts loosing 60% of what PDP left for Nigeria, resulting in 60% loss in other sectors
VERDICT: while electricity generation has been rising from obasanjo to Yar ardua, then to Jonathan, it started declining under APC, even after buhari handed power to Tinubu, it continues to decline.
Conclusion: Nigeria didn't Dodge any bullet, we were hit by ballistic missile called APC,
SOLUTIONS: when ivory coast lost the group stage, the removed their coach and replaced him with another, they were rewarded with the nation cup, Nigeria needs to replace APC with a new party or at worst go back to PDP.
Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by ElSudani: 5:07pm On Feb 14
TopBanter:


What do you mean we have nothing to defend Tinubu with when the reality is that it is you and your ilk who have deliberately decided to remain blind to how transformative some of his reforms will be if given time to work.

In a nutshell, the biggest problem of Nigeria today, aside Buhari's deliberate bankrupting our country, is a stagnant, non-diversified and disgracefully unproductive economy matched with equally unproductive human resources like you.

Those considerations have bedevilled our economy and always will so far as we keep gaining Presidents like OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ and Buhari who wish to subsidize everything just to keep personally very broke and unproductive Nigerian, most only like 5k naira awy from bankruptcy, happy rhat they are living, eating and breathing.

Yet should that be enough? Even if you have never left Nigeria, the Internet shows us how others live worldwide !!!

The reform-averse and subsidy-dependent practices of all our Presidents since 1999, is no way to secure development and dignity for a nation. All the subsidies (on electricity, petrol and even artificially and deceptively shoring up the value of the Naira) were making us bankrupt and pushing us towards failed Nation status.

Like putting a bandage over a wound caused by cancer yet you have no interest fighting and defeating the cancer. Surely death is inevitable.

If nations were people Nigerians would be the equivalent of hand-to-mouth loafers who only scurry around looking for what to eat this minute and trying to get through the day while citizens of developed nation, showing the status we should seek if informed and ambitious, are productive and earning living wages that covers their feeding, bills, general cost of living and even leave them something to save for a rainy day.

Most Nigerians remain stagnant their whole life with many never being able to afford a car, house, take holidays etc.

All because of leadership dishonesty that simply want to bribe simpletons with food and cheap petrol to shut them up. Elsewhere worldwide, citizens demand more. Far more.

The incredible danger of that self-serving approach by leaders is that Nigerians have no buffers to insulate them even a little bit from the smallest emergency same as Nigeria too is always on edge due to an unproductive economy that is dangerously undiversified away from dependence on crude earnings and has been looted to a stupor recently.

To change this for the better, with triumvirate positive developmental effect on the Nigerian economy, Nigerian people and the ability of both to be part of the solutions propelling us towards developed nation status, then holistic reforms, which many be painful in the short term, has to be embraced.

To say you want a return to conditions under OBJ, GEJ and Buhari means the plan of leaders to make you 'poverty crack addict' is working.

They give you basics, even though that basic is actually nothing in comparison to what your peers enjoy worldwide, while they luxuriate in garish opulence even far more productive Western leaders never seek to commandeer for themselves.

As an example, Nigerians fo not even know they chase cheap petrol because if poor transport option and poor power supply. Instead of rioting for return of petrol to 86 naira per litre, why not protest uncompromisingly for government ot declare state of emergency on transport and power?

The UK has one of the highest petrol pump pride in the world yet many citizens are not concerned because they do have have to buy their own car and don't know what power outage is.

This is the crude and terrible system Tinubu is trying to change but he will have his work cut out for him because many Nigerians are too illiterate and poverty-ridden to ever be interested in reading or researching to note, for the first time and as obtained with Awolowo, a leader wants to teach them to fish rather than give them fish, as others have done, only for Nigerians to be worthless, skilless and ' ebi pa mi' desperate when the fish can no longer be provided by leaders.

Things are not helped by supposedly educated Nigerians like you who have huge appetite for ethno-religious discrimination and mischief but non for genuinely and uncompromisingly supporting progressive developments and reforms I suspect, deep down, you know will transform Nigeria.

Goodluck to all of you. However it goes down, Tinubu, or any President, will never be able to give what he and the completely bankrupt and unproductively worthless Nigerian economy cannot give you. A stone cannot give you a bucket of water.

Better to take time to understand solutions needed and support them so we escape our chains once and for all.

Or we can continue to display crab in a bucket mentality where Nigerians will never escape poverty and underdevelopment because what keeps you poor and underdeveloped (disguised as "assistive" subsidy, palliatives and cheap fuel) you cannot sacrificially let go of for a considerably better tomorrow for you and generations unborn.

May God bless you abundantly. "Those considerations have bedevilled our economy and always will so far as we keep gaining Presidents like OBJ, Yar Adua, GEJ and Buhari who wish to subsidize everything just to keep personally very broke and unproductive Nigerian, most only like 5k naira awy from bankruptcy, happy rhat they are living, eating and breathing."

This here is the tragedy of governance in Nigeria, Tinubu could have taken this approach as well and create an illusion that everything is ok while the country goes deeper and deeper into the abyss.
Re: Tinubu: The Gradual But Steady Wrecking Of A Nation by FarmPlanetNG: 7:30pm On Mar 14
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