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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by commoditiesnig: 11:37pm On Feb 13
DeLaRue:
During Buhari's government, Nigeria, through the CBN, was spending according to some estimates, more than $12billion per year to maintain 2 exchange rates N440, and I think N570 to a dollar.

That $12 billion dollars was effectively a subsidy.

By the time Buhari left, Nigeria had just about $3.5 billion in its account. It is from that amount that we have to pay our debts and pay for imports of goods.

As you can see, Nigeria no longer had the $12 billion dollars required to keep naira/dollar rate at less than N600. So the current government had no choice but to give up on trying to subsidise the naira.

If Atiku or any other candidate had won, they would have had no choice than to follow the same path.

It is like buying a BMW when you had money. If you no longer have money to maintain it, what do you do, you give it up. No be so?

Your friends and neighbours who see you taking Okada will call you stupid for giving up such a beautiful car. But, younno longer have know what they don't know - you no longer have the money to maintain the car.

This is exactly where Nigeria is at present.

Excellent explanation! Kudos!

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by blacknp(m): 11:38pm On Feb 13
Validated:

So, investors are now flooding SW?
Tinubu is a Buffonish President
Lazy man way no wan work, digitalized validated Almijiri, What is the difference between you & your Almijiri brothers in Jigawa & Gombe?

The latter are on the streets, whilst the former is on the World Wide Web.

Make all of una banbeallah dey wait for Tinubu.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by PoliteActivist: 11:40pm On Feb 13
Maxxim:

So this is an artificial condition, if the government did this on purpose why reassuring the masses on empty promises.
The irony is that this country won't be able to sustain this development cos we adopt American lifestyle which is the consumers type.
This is just like treating malaria with chemotherapy treatment
*Politeness*
See my post above. Actually the government just said, let's stop wasting resources trying to artificially hold up naira (with the attendant round-tripping, corruption, black market, hoarding, and speculation) and just let the market decide it's value with everything transparent.
No way it can be a bad thing in the long run.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by commoditiesnig: 11:43pm On Feb 13
Brilliant!
Genius100:


Look at what happened in the last few years when for example, official rate was N450 and parallel rate was N800. Nigeria essentially restricted the people that could get the dollar at N450. What that means is that there is a thriving black market where the rates are much higher. First, International airlines that sold tickets in Naira and wanted to convert their money to Dollars to take it back to their country could not do so because CBN did not have enough dollars to give them. Nigeria became the number 1 country where airlines had their money stuck. So this puts the country in a situation where foreign entities would not want to invest in the country.

Now think about Diasporan remittances which is supposed to be over $20 billion a year. This money will never come through the official changes because no one will change dollars for N450 when parallel rate is N800. So consequently, the CBN reserves became very low. With low forex reserves, the Country was in a position where we almost could not pay our foreign debt back which constitutes is a death sentence to the economy, if we default.

Also, the Diasporan remittances never made it into the country. It was being held by certain Fintech and their partner banks in Nigeria. They hoarded it which made dollars more scarce and led to Naira continuing to lose value. They were seeing crazy gains while the rest of the country suffered.

Compare that to when you float. The official rates and parallel rates are largely harmonized. Now Diasporans can send money through officially licensed IMTOs. These IMTOs will give the CBN a certain percentage of the dollars- let's say 50% - That amounts to about $10 billion.

Second, the people that were speculating and hoarding millions of dollars for gains, now can no longer make arbitrage money because there is no longer substantial difference in rates between official and parallel. Those dollars can now go to productive activity. Last, foreign companies now know they can get their money in and out of the country which will spur investments.

Ultimately, floating allows CBN to grow its reserves, which allows Nigeria to service debts and also procure additional low interest debt that can be used for the desperately needed capital investments in the country.



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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by blacknp(m): 11:45pm On Feb 13
PoliteActivist:

*Politeness*
See my post above. Actually the government just said, let's stop wasting resources trying to artificially hold up naira (with the attendant round-tripping, corruption, black market, hoarding, and speculation) and just let the market decide it's value with everything transparent.
No way it can be a bad thing in the long run.
You even dey try to even convince these nomadic minded things, let them be waiting for government to keep giving them a subsidized existence.

Nothing them they export for foreign exchange, 220 million sambos are waiting from 1.4 million barrels per day crude oil receipts, they no get shame, Oblivious minded Things waiting for the CBN to do magic.

Una go wait tire.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by loffyloffy: 11:45pm On Feb 13
Reducing Debt Burden: Nigeria owes money to other countries (national debt). Devaluation makes it easier to repay those loans because the Naira is worth less. It’s like paying back a smaller amount.

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How can devaluation reduce debt burden..when the amount owing is in Dollars..please enlighten me

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by PoliteActivist: 11:50pm On Feb 13
Gadafii:
mention any local manufacturer that are likely to replace these foreign ones, are you aware of how many local companies have folded the past one year,??!

If this is the case, why is dangote cemetery expensive since the source raw material locally??


Why is tomorrows and onions fucking expensive since they are produced locally

It doesn't have to be big companies. People will learn how to make their own soaps and cough syrups, plus small mam and pap local manufacturers. Any local company that folds despite lack of competition from foreign-made (due to expensive dollar) should not be in business in the first place

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by GeneralDae: 11:50pm On Feb 13
Jessyjeff:
Please, just say APC mismanaged the Naira by over borrowing and floating of the currency.

When Obasanjo took over in 1999, Nigeria had around 3 billion dollars in foreign reserve. Nigeria was still then heavily dependent on importation; he didn't float Naira, and he didn't stop subsidy on petrol, diesel and Kerosene.

Yet, Nigeria's inflation rate was under 15% and food was affordable too. He assembled able hands who were able to grow the economy and pay Nigeria's debts or negotiate some debt forgiveness.

Why did everything about Nigeria's economy start deteriorating rapidly immediately APC took over government in 2015? APC has no clue about economic management, especially on federal level.
Obasanjo floated naira. When Abacha died, parallel market was almost 90 naira while he kept official rate at 22 naira (x4 less). Obasanjo floated naira in order to get debt forgiveness amongst other things. So naira went from 22 to 90 and he left it at 150.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by hansomb: 11:51pm On Feb 13
malali:
Cheaper Exports: When the Naira is devalued, it becomes less valuable compared to other currencies. This makes Nigerian products cheaper for people in other countries. Think of it like selling your cool toy cars to friends abroad at a lower price. More exports mean more money flowing into Nigeria!

Expensive Imports: On the flip side, devaluation makes foreign toys (imports) more expensive for you. Imagine your favorite video games suddenly costing more because they’re imported. This encourages people to buy local toys instead.

Boosting Local Industries: When local toys (goods and services) become cheaper for foreigners, it helps Nigerian businesses grow. They can sell more, hire more people, and contribute to the economy.

Tourism Advantage: Devaluation makes Nigeria an attractive travel destination. Foreign tourists find it cheaper to visit, explore, and spend money here. Imagine more tourists enjoying Nigerian culture, food, and music!

Investment Inflow: Investors like to put their money where it grows. Devaluation encourages foreign investors to set up factories, offices, and businesses in Nigeria. This creates jobs and stimulates economic growth.

Balance of Payments: Devaluation can improve Nigeria’s balance of payments. It’s like keeping track of how much money comes in (exports, investments) versus how much goes out (imports, debt payments). A positive balance is good!

Inflation: Devaluation can lead to higher prices for everyday items (inflation). Imagine your pocket money buying fewer candies because prices went up. But controlled inflation can be healthy for the economy.

Reducing Debt Burden: Nigeria owes money to other countries (national debt). Devaluation makes it easier to repay those loans because the Naira is worth less. It’s like paying back a smaller amount.

Competitiveness: Devaluation makes Nigerian businesses compete better globally. Just like you try to win in video game tournaments, our economy competes with other countries. A cheaper Naira gives us an edge!

Learning Opportunity: Finally, understanding devaluation teaches us about economics. It’s like leveling up in your favorite game. By knowing how money works, we can make smarter decisions for Nigeria’s future!
this is one reason for food scarcity, because Nigeria now prefer to export to neighboring countries

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by GeneralDae: 11:55pm On Feb 13
hansomb:
this is one reason for food scarcity, because Nigeria now prefer to export to neighboring countries
To make matters worse, they export to countries buying it with CFA not even dollars, euros, or pounds.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by hansomb: 12:02am On Feb 14
kokoA:
In Nigeria locally produced items are more expensive than imported ones.
Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by hansomb: 12:06am On Feb 14
The Honest Truth is all those theories if implemented will work. But has anything ever work in Nigeria? Truth is we have our dubious way/systems of doing things upside down hence the system even if it good doesn't turn out well. Corruption, nepotism, dishonesty has replaced the normal way of doing things to the extent that anyone that tries to do the right thing is seen as abnormal.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Belial06: 12:25am On Feb 14
PoliteActivist:

*Politeness*
I modified my post. See above. It is not economic jargon, it is common sense. If my money can buy more in your house, I'd like your house and buy stuff from your house... until I realize I'm giving you all my money!

This is a very inane childish way of looking at it. In that case why isn't everyone rushing to Venezuela?

If you don't understand something don't comment

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Anguldi(m): 12:37am On Feb 14
GeneralDae:

To make matters worse, they export to countries buying it with CFA not even dollars, euros, or pounds.
Who told you Our neighbors french countries come with dollars
Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Anguldi(m): 12:38am On Feb 14
We've got a huge population but not productive. Industrialization is the way forward

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by grandstar(m): 12:44am On Feb 14
Genius100:


Look at what happened in the last few years when for example, official rate was N450 and parallel rate was N800. Nigeria essentially restricted the people that could get the dollar at N450. What that means is that there is a thriving black market where the rates are much higher. First, International airlines that sold tickets in Naira and wanted to convert their money to Dollars to take it back to their country could not do so because CBN did not have enough dollars to give them. Nigeria became the number 1 country where airlines had their money stuck. So this puts the country in a situation where foreign entities would not want to invest in the country.

Now think about Diasporan remittances which is supposed to be over $20 billion a year. This money will never come through the official changes because no one will change dollars for N450 when parallel rate is N800. So consequently, the CBN reserves became very low. With low forex reserves, the Country was in a position where we almost could not pay our foreign debt back which constitutes is a death sentence to the economy, if we default.

Also, the Diasporan remittances never made it into the country. It was being held by certain Fintech and their partner banks in Nigeria. They hoarded it which made dollars more scarce and led to Naira continuing to lose value. They were seeing crazy gains while the rest of the country suffered.

Compare that to when you float. The official rates and parallel rates are largely harmonized. Now Diasporans can send money through officially licensed IMTOs. These IMTOs will give the CBN a certain percentage of the dollars- let's say 50% - That amounts to about $10 billion.

Second, the people that were speculating and hoarding millions of dollars for gains, now can no longer make arbitrage money because there is no longer substantial difference in rates between official and parallel. Those dollars can now go to productive activity. Last, foreign companies now know they can get their money in and out of the country which will spur investments.

Ultimately, floating allows CBN to grow its reserves, which allows Nigeria to service debts and also procure additional low interest debt that can be used for the desperately needed capital investments in the country.




Beautiful answers.

Nevertheless, it is time government fought inflation. Tinubu should allow the CBN do its work by increasing interest rates.

Leaving interest rates way below that of inflation is very inflationary.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by PoliteActivist: 12:47am On Feb 14
Belial06:


This is a very inane childish way of looking at it. In that case why isn't everyone rushing to Venezuela?

If you don't understand something don't comment
*Politeness*
Floating is different from inflation. Also it depends on the type of country. Nigeria is the the type of country that CANNOT lose in the long run by floating her currency.
The only losers will be those who wish to travel, those who need to buy foreign, round trippers, blackmarketers, currency hoaders and speculators, corrupt government and CBN insiders, foreign countries who'd get less of our japa youths and brains and visa money!

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by mrdharkchild(m): 1:18am On Feb 14
Leaving it off for market forces( goods and services) to set market prices.

But this only works in capitalist countries, i guess.
Where privatly owned firms dictate the cost of things in the country.

But I think Nigeria is neither a capitalist or a socialist country.

To rule this country, you have to understand these terms

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by SisterAnn(f): 1:50am On Feb 14
hansomb:
The Honest Truth is all those theories if implemented will work. But has anything ever work in Nigeria? Truth is we have our dubious way/systems of doing things upside down hence the system even if it good doesn't turn out well. Corruption, nepotism, dishonesty has replaced the normal way of doing things to the extent that anyone that tries to do the right thing is seen as abnormal.
I agree with you.

Corruption is at the beginning and end of our national existence.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by MarketDispatch: 2:31am On Feb 14
Genius100:


Look at what happened in the last few years when for example, official rate was N450 and parallel rate was N800. Nigeria essentially restricted the people that could get the dollar at N450. What that means is that there is a thriving black market where the rates are much higher. First, International airlines that sold tickets in Naira and wanted to convert So this puts the country in a situation where foreign entities would not want to invest in the country.




In another way, could Government have forced the black market price per dollar to come down to government price ceiling to prevent arbitrage rather than float government price to meet Black market dollar price?

I just think the Government naira float was not a well thought out policy.. someone (Cbn Gov) just slept the night before, woke up and decided to float naira without doing proper study to have answers/solutions to all the issues that may arise

With the current float and analysing the below ...will a foreign investor be making profit or loses?

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Maxxim: 7:11am On Feb 14
PoliteActivist:

*Politeness*
See my post above. Actually the government just said, let's stop wasting resources trying to artificially hold up naira (with the attendant round-tripping, corruption, black market, hoarding, and speculation) and just let the market decide it's value with everything transparent.
No way it can be a bad thing in the long run.

Until when did they start to implement the floating of the naira, I guess it's not up to two weeks now.
Which means the government has been deceitful all this while, somehow the government was still using some means to purchase the dollar at cheap rate through banks until lately the official rate matches the parallel.
So it's right to say the government has not been transparent whatsoever.
All the methods adopted to build the economy up to this moment is one sided and detriment to the live hood of the citizens and no investor will want to risk their funds into a temporary and fluctuating economy.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by BenuePolitician(m): 7:36am On Feb 14
We Nigerians ourselves are majorly responsible for how our economy and Naira nosedived in recent years, due to greed and greedy mechanisms put in place to make and make more money. Now everybody is complaining before when somebody will buy Dollar @400 Naira and sell for 800 Naira because he/she wants to make excess profit. Nobody was complaining. The problem with the country is simple"Greed mentality" exist in 8 of every 10 Nigerians, how will commodities not keep raising everyday?? Tinubu removed subsidy then overnight marketers started selling the un-subsidised fuel left in stock @600 per liter yet they blame Govt for everything bad when in truth its we ourselves that pilot our problems due to GREED, GREED AND GREED sad

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by MarketDispatch: 7:43am On Feb 14
Currently if a foreign investor invests $200,000 dollars at an exchange rate of 1400. to $1. =.N280,000,000

After a while investment is now worth N300,000,000 but at an exchange rate of N1500 to $1.. have you made any profit?

No...it's just been a complete waste of time. and stress.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Jessyjeff: 7:57am On Feb 14
GeneralDae:

Obasanjo floated naira. When Abacha died, parallel market was almost 90 naira while he kept official rate at 22 naira (x4 less). Obasanjo floated naira in order to get debt forgiveness amongst other things. So naira went from 22 to 90 and he left it at 150.
Olusegun Obasanjo never floated Naira, he did some devaluation of Naira. During his administration the CBN was still defending Naira to a large extent.

Floating a currency means abandoning any form of control mechanism, while currency devaluation means allowing your currency lose some percentage points to other major currencies. Every other administrations in Nigeria since independence has never floated the Naira, except Tinubu's.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Iamanoited: 8:04am On Feb 14
LEGALIZING ABOKI MARKETS. IT'S BUHARINOMICS AND EMEFIELE CONTINUE.
Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Peppysco: 8:28am On Feb 14
Validated:

So, investors are now flooding SW?
Tinubu is a Buffonish President

Your rigid,unyielding and dark mindset won't make you understand all the explanations given. Your mind is programmed already, nothing will make any sense to you right now.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by GeneralDae: 8:30am On Feb 14
Jessyjeff:
Olusegun Obasanjo never floated Naira, he did some devaluation of Naira. During his administration the CBN was still defending Naira to a large extent.

Floating a currency means abandoning any form of control mechanism, while currency devaluation means allowing your currency lose some percentage points to other major currencies. Every other administrations in Nigeria since independence has never floated the Naira, except Tinubu's.
Okay fine. He devalued naira but the reason he could defend it was that he was constantly selling 2.2 million bpd of crude oil. At a point, we had an excess crude account of 104 Billion dollars in 2004, it was almost wiped out under same Obasanjo regime. He was also forgiven debts in 2004, so no debt servicing to drain dollars.

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by FutureFocus: 8:31am On Feb 14
You think IMF is your friend ?

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by Alphiegabe: 8:31am On Feb 14
It would stop dollar racketeering

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by sammhi(m): 8:32am On Feb 14
ckc:
Based on the catastrophe this floating of naira of a thing by Tinubu is causing to the economy, can anyone please educate me on the ONE benefit of this policy. I want to learn.
None
The worst CBN Gov in history...
Destroying our industry and causing hyper inflation all in the name of floating Naira
How can you float something you don't have
Senselessnness

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Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by fareed69(m): 8:32am On Feb 14
Kenneth4u205:
It will reduce the price of cocaine which is the most important commodity to our drug lord

Hear yourself.
Re: What exactly Is The Benefit Of Floating The Naira? by yeshuasfootstep(m): 8:34am On Feb 14
What actually is currency devaluation first?

It is advice good countries give to foolish ones while making sure their own currency is top notch.

It is an exercise selfish, wicked and greedy politicians rush to carry out knowing their stacked foreign currencies will appreciate.

It is an exercise that shows the gullible's penchant for hoping on hopelessness, that their money will bounce back without a selfless, purpose driven , production oriented leadership.

So don't expect any benefit unless you're among the benefitting class.

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