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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by YourMrBoo: 9:45am On Feb 15
Ykc2:
during covid 19 me as a person total money i got from Austrian government is 1800 euros in as much our factory was working and am not yet a citizen of austria ooh,tell me what you as a nigerian is benefiting from your government? 3.5billion dollars was sold to dangote at rate 380naira while others were buying at rate of 7800 naira did that made him to lower the price of his cement?in western countries dangote will be serving 20 years imprisonment his a fraud

We know he is. But the government itself is illegal and incompetent.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by HeroicMeastro: 9:48am On Feb 15
gaby:
Na this Dangote refinery go cause the next civil war for Nogeria.

Westside Vs Northside.
😂😂😂
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by GerogeI(m): 9:51am On Feb 15
Paraman:


https://punchng.com/dangote-refinery-to-export-two-fuel-cargoes-report/?amp

For those who do not understand.
Dangote Refinery at this moment is nothing but same topping refinery you find in Niger Delta bushes doing atmospheric distillation of crude. We call the topping refineries. They produce basically,
LPG, naptha, diesel, kerosene and fuel oil.

Naphtha is incomplete petrol, it has low octane. Only those old 1980s engines might get away with running naphtha or straight run gasoline. They have no choice but to export it to another refinery that will finish the processing. They cannot sell it to the public, many engines will knock.

Then, about 40 to 60% of the out put is fuel oil. Modern refineries will normally convert more of the fuel oil to light components ike petrol through vacuum distillation. They go further to crack the last residue in a Fluid Catalytic cracker to get even more petrol, diesel and kerosene. So the Current Dangote Refinery is no different from those defunct refineries in Warri, and PH. Where "you know who" got rich by bribing people to go and poison the FCC catalyst, so the Refinery produces only base oil or fuel oil, which they then use political power to get govt awards to export at paltry sums. Exporting Base oil or fuel oil is almost as good exporting crude oil.

So the reason Dangote is exporting is not for money. The refinery is simply not functional.

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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Idaytesj29(m): 9:53am On Feb 15
proff010:
IMF will soon advise dangote not to sell to local market in Nigeria.

The International Monetary Fools (IMF)
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Celestialsword: 9:53am On Feb 15
Ykc2:
during covid 19 me as a person total money i got from Austrian government is 1800 euros in as much our factory was working and am not yet a citizen of austria ooh,tell me what you as a nigerian is benefiting from your government? 3.5billion dollars was sold to dangote at rate 380naira while others were buying at rate of 7800 naira did that made him to lower the price of his cement?in western countries dangote will be serving 20 years imprisonment his a fraud
Dangote holdings is where the collective loots of Nigeria politicians are invested.

He is given concessions in all his business activities for optimal profit for investors and not for the growth of the economy

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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Celestialsword: 9:55am On Feb 15
Idaytesj29:


The International Monetary Fools (IMF)
They are not fools, they run Africa economies
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Ohuhunsulurep: 12:01pm On Feb 15
gaby:
Na this Dangote refinery go cause the next civil war for Nogeria.

Westside Vs Northside.
Na lie, Yoruba will never go to war with Hausa,
They're in a strong relationship,
Yoruba dey fear Hausa like covid 19😀😀,
Dem no go ever try am.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Blazebond(m): 12:02pm On Feb 15
Kushites:


Are you minding these COMMUNIST ILLITERATES?

Soviet-era communists in disguise!

Closet Maoists and Leninists!


Any bold move by the private sector they frown on.

Any good project must be government-run.

If it is private-run, it means in their heads that some private guy is chopping their money.

Yet this is a capitalist economy modelled after the most capitalist USA and UK!

Do you know that HEATHROW AIRPORT LONDON is owned by a private consortium?

It has nothing to do with the UK govt!

Zero!

They just run it and pay small tax to the govt.

Can you imagine the reaction if the FG says they want to sell Murtala Muhammed Airport to a private consortium of Nigerian firms?

All hell will break loose!

They will accuse Tinubu of selling off the country’s assets to his cabal and his cronies!

We have to decide if we want to be a capitalist nation or not.

In a capitalist economy, apart from civil projects like roads and bridges, everything else major you see is private sector - owned. Stadiums, universities, power plants, factories, refineries, hospitals, everything!

Here in Nigeria, you want the govt to own and run everything!

When a private sector firm like Dangote does something big, you frown on it.

But you have NO PROBLEM with private white-owned multinationals like Unilever, Shell, etc coming here and raking in profits while producing a service, but a Nigerian firm does it, and all hell breaks loose! He is chopping our money!

Right before our very eyes, Nigeria has become the biggest manufacturer and exporter of refined petroleum products in Africa - a massive step towards industrialisation, and these BUSHMEN on nairaland are here typing streams of ignorance.

It's just pitiful.

The Dangote refinery boasts a capacity of 650,000 barrels of crude oil per day and is expected to meet Nigeria's domestic demand for petroleum products and help Nigeria save the much-needed foreign exchange currently spent on the importation of such petroleum products.

Nigeria currently imports more than 80% of its refined petroleum products. She is the largest importer of refined petroleum products in Africa.

Local production by the Dangote refinery will therefore massively cut the country’s import bill.

''According to the Central Bank of Nigeria, the cost (including freight) of petroleum products imports into Nigeria doubled over a five-year period from about US$8.4 billion in 2017 to US$16.2 billion (indicating an annual average of US$11.1 billion), before rising further to US$23.3 billion by end-2022.

The central bank says the average annual cost of petroleum products imports to Nigeria could reach US$30 billion by 2027 if the country continues to rely on petroleum imports.

This money can now potentially be saved with Dangote refinery plugging the supply shortfall.''

https://theconversation.com/dangote-launches-africas-biggest-oil-refinery-4-ways-it-will-affect-nigeria-205685


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Yet we have this inglorious gathering of professional malcontents pouring sickening invective on the refinery!

I mean, who did this to you people?

Ignorant clowns like you is what brought Africa down on her knees today, capitalism slaves like you don't know that there is no full scale capitalism anywhere in the world,see as you gather dey write rubbish like idiot,the capitalist nations that you slave for and lick their boots will also also compell all businesses operating in their country to satisfy their countries needs first before they export,dummies like you don't know anything.
Next time keep your stupidity to yourself.

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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by zionstaar75: 12:04pm On Feb 15
tppzzy01:
And nna go gree? If the vessel leave Nigeria, then Nigerians are bastard and should forget about a better Nigeria.
make sure you involve your brain next time you want to comment

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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by unclejb2(m): 12:05pm On Feb 15
YourMrBoo:


That's not true there are often exceptions, such as cases involving gross misconduct, violations of human rights, or actions taken outside the scope of official duties. There sorry ass can get sued
you can't sue a governor in Nigeria. That's the law
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Blazebond(m): 12:05pm On Feb 15
YourMrBoo:
You can't dictate for a private firm....

Dangote has every right to export his products....

And Nnpc is a stakeholder.

And where did you get this directive from? From your nightly coven meetings I suppose,I will continue to say it o,Africa is doomed with kids like you,you know absolutely nothing at all.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by zionstaar75: 12:07pm On Feb 15
Blazebond:


Ignorant clowns like you are what brought Africa down on her knees today, capitalism slaves like you don't know that there is no full scale capitalism anywhere in the world,see as you gather dey rubbish like idiot,the capitalist nations that you slave for and lick their boots will also also compell all businesses to operating in their country to satisfy their countries needs first before they export,dummies like you don't know anything.
Next time keep your stupidity to yourself.
but you're the one that is actually stupid with the senseless comment you made
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by GeneralDae: 12:12pm On Feb 15
DeLaRue:


'Upgrading units' - I guess that's for petrol.

So the refinery may not produce petrol for a some months yet. Hmm.

Someone from abroad told me yesterday that Nigeria will not benefit much from the refinery. My immediate interest was in another topic we were discussing so I didn't really press him to explain why he thought that would be the case.

But thinking about it now, I think the government will just end up paying same old subsidy to Dangote as the current pump price of around N650 is not going to cut it. Subsidy is here to stay.

So we are back to square one, with the only advantage being that the government will not be buying the petrol from him in dollars.

If Nigeria's wahala is too much, the man may even decide not to sell to Nigeria.

O ti lo o sad




For Government to do this subsidy thing without stress, PH and Warri refineries have to come alive. Govt can then dictate the price by pegging both PMS and diesel at 350-500 naira. The new oil swap agreements would be with our local refineries. But the price to pay is smuggling to Benin republic and petrol queues. This is where Dangote would make up for the rest but he should be allowed to fix his price.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Ikukuudo: 12:26pm On Feb 15
I don't really have words, let the right thing be done. If these products are going to reduce the suffering of the masses my selling to this nation let it be considered. If selling it outside this country is going to cause problem and increase to the suffering of the masses, I go join for the war.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by fitinwell: 1:00pm On Feb 15
YourMrBoo:
You can't dictate for a private firm....

Dangote has every right to export his products....

And Nnpc is a stakeholder.

Stop Staking Rubbish out .. you are grown Man ok!...

By the Time Revolution hits Full scale.. make dangote strong make em stop men..

Na over greediness go Burn this country last last... Down
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Tektronics12: 1:23pm On Feb 15
All money from Oil and Gas should be Saved in a trust and Investment globally for future generation.

Lets go back to Agriculture, Solid Minerals, Maritime and others. This would make Nigeria rich like Norway till thy Kingdom come!
Paraman:


https://punchng.com/dangote-refinery-to-export-two-fuel-cargoes-report/?amp
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Golan007: 1:47pm On Feb 15
RepoMan007:
stop acting ignorant. Those cheap forexes given to Dangote could have been given to small businesses to also import machineries.

Dangote has loan to repay in dollars also and must have considered that to sell to Intl buyers who can pay him forex.
What FG should push for is for Dangote to at least take Nigerian crude at prevailing rate and sell part of his refined product locally to reduce forex demands in govt. That's the best the government can get from him.

He stopped all the SMEs before and after government prioritised Dangote Refinery?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Bluntemperor: 2:56pm On Feb 15
robinso01:
If e no go reduces the price of fuel in 9ja ,make e Bleep off . Mtchew

The question is - how much is Dangote Refineries going to sell to NIGERIANS and at what Price?
Why is Dangote selling abroad and keep mute on local Prices?
We need to be more Patrotic than we claiming to be Nigerians!
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by sheffybugatty: 3:25pm On Feb 15
Dangote needs dollars to import more crude oil. Central bank as at today can't given him such a huge volume not to talk of Nigeria banks.

The only way for him is to earn in dollars in order to fuel is business.

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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 4:28pm On Feb 15
gaby:
Na this Dangote refinery go cause the next civil war for Nigeria.

Westside Vs Northside.
why
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by gaby(m): 4:31pm On Feb 15
Cromagnon:
why

It's deep but continue to observe.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 4:31pm On Feb 15
DeLaRue:


'Upgrading units' - I guess that's for petrol.

So the refinery may not produce petrol for a some months yet. Hmm.

Someone from abroad told me yesterday that Nigeria will not benefit much from the refinery. My immediate interest was in another topic we were discussing so I didn't really press him to explain why he thought that would be the case.

Demand and supply
Price will not change much


.
But thinking about it now, I think the government will just end up paying same old subsidy to Dangote as the current pump price of around N650 is not going to cut it. Subsidy is here to stay.

With which money
They've looted it all



.
So we are back to square one, with the only advantage being that the government will not be buying the petrol from him in dollars.

If Nigeria's wahala is too much, the man may even decide not to sell to Nigeria.

O ti lo o sad




Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 4:33pm On Feb 15
Kenochi:
Education is very important,I want to encourage everyone to google the products that Dangote Refinery wants to export and its uses
After that,you can come to a conclusion whether it is something that we use in Nigeria and what level of usage is there in Nigeria

Some of us have always insisted that there are more than three products from Crude Oil,and this only justifies our stance.This brings me to the NNPCL and it's management for the past 20 years.
What did they do with our by products for the past 20 years when they had this rubbish swap arrangements
What did the money for fuel oil,naphtha,propylene,carbon black and other byproducts disappear into

As for Dangote Refinery,this is another big short coming in our nation.A big Oil producing country whose leaders refused to set up Industries and take advantage of their God given blessing
They were busy subsidizing petrol and allowing conmen to destroy this country
The chicken has come home to roost,and everyday we keep seeing that we were just producing leaders who were not willing to take the long road to success but were always comfortable taking short cuts that led to nowhere
At least you agree we were producing them
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 4:35pm On Feb 15
a4cube:
Yes ofcourse. IMF is not for the poor, they are for profit and more hardship to thr downtrodden.
but you are not part of the problem, waiting for another man to come and spoonfeed you?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 4:35pm On Feb 15
tppzzy01:
And nna go gree? If the vessel leave Nigeria, then Nigerians are bastard and should forget about a better Nigeria.
why you no go gree
Na your property
Are you a thief
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by emmi14: 5:30pm On Feb 15
YourMrBoo:
You can't dictate for a private firm....

Dangote has every right to export his products....

And Nnpc is a stakeholder.
You have started talking rubbish
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Growing(m): 5:32pm On Feb 15
It is his business.

Whom to export to is his decision to make.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by GeneralDae: 5:37pm On Feb 15
Kenochi:
Education is very important,I want to encourage everyone to google the products that Dangote Refinery wants to export and its uses
After that,you can come to a conclusion whether it is something that we use in Nigeria and what level of usage is there in Nigeria

Some of us have always insisted that there are more than three products from Crude Oil,and this only justifies our stance.This brings me to the NNPCL and it's management for the past 20 years.
What did they do with our by products for the past 20 years when they had this rubbish swap arrangements
What did the money for fuel oil,naphtha,propylene,carbon black and other byproducts disappear into

As for Dangote Refinery,this is another big short coming in our nation.A big Oil producing country whose leaders refused to set up Industries and take advantage of their God given blessing
They were busy subsidizing petrol and allowing conmen to destroy this country
The chicken has come home to roost,and everyday we keep seeing that we were just producing leaders who were not willing to take the long road to success but were always comfortable taking short cuts that led to nowhere
In all of this I blamed Yar Adua the most. He reversed some of the things Obasanjo did in his second tenure.

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Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 5:49pm On Feb 15
Kushites:


Are you minding these COMMUNIST ILLITERATES?

Soviet-era communists in disguise!

Closet Maoists and Leninists!


Any bold move by the private sector they frown on.

Any good project must be government-run.

If it is private-run, it means in their heads that some private guy is chopping their money.

Yet this is a capitalist economy modelled after the most capitalist USA and UK!




Not Really
We are more socialist than capitalist
That's why nothing works







Do you know that HEATHROW AIRPORT LONDON is owned by a private consortium?

It has nothing to do with the UK govt!

Zero!

They just run it and pay small tax to the govt.

Can you imagine the reaction if the FG says they want to sell Murtala Muhammed Airport to a private consortium of Nigerian firms?

All hell will break loose!

They will accuse Tinubu of selling off the country’s assets to his cabal and his cronies!

We have to decide if we want to be a capitalist nation or not.

In a capitalist economy, apart from civil projects like roads and bridges,


Eben roads and bridges can be privatised
Lekki to gate and link Bridge

. everything else major you see is private sector - owned. Stadiums, universities, power plants, factories, refineries, hospitals, everything!

Here in Nigeria, you want the govt to own and run everything!

When a private sector firm like Dangote does something big, you frown on it.

But you have NO PROBLEM with private white-owned multinationals like Unilever, Shell, etc coming here and raking in profits while producing a service, but a Nigerian firm does it, and all hell breaks loose! He is chopping our money!

Bad bele


.
Right before our very eyes, Nigeria has become the biggest manufacturer and exporter of refined petroleum products in Africa - a massive step towards industrialisation, and these BUSHMEN on nairaland are here typing streams of ignorance.

It's just pitiful.

The Dangote refinery boasts a capacity of 650,000 barrels of crude oil per day and is expected to meet Nigeria's domestic demand for petroleum products and help Nigeria save the much-needed foreign exchange currently spent on the importation of such petroleum products.

Nigeria currently imports more than 80% of its refined petroleum products. She is the largest importer of refined petroleum products in Africa.

Local production by the Dangote refinery will therefore massively cut the country’s import bill.

''According to the Central Bank of Nigeria, the cost (including freight) of petroleum products imports into Nigeria doubled over a five-year period from about US$8.4 billion in 2017 to US$16.2 billion (indicating an annual average of US$11.1 billion), before rising further to US$23.3 billion by end-2022.

The central bank says the average annual cost of petroleum products imports to Nigeria could reach US$30 billion by 2027 if the country continues to rely on petroleum imports.

This money can now potentially be saved with Dangote refinery plugging the supply shortfall.''

https://theconversation.com/dangote-launches-africas-biggest-oil-refinery-4-ways-it-will-affect-nigeria-205685


..........


Yet we have this inglorious gathering of professional malcontents pouring sickening invective on the refinery!

I mean, who did this to you people?
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by Cromagnon: 7:32pm On Feb 15
Vischy:


Dangote is a private business meant to profit private pockets but APC supporters have been celebrating like it's a national asset that will profit the common man.

Is common man not profiting
Abi is govt workers that will work in the refinery?
Will they not spend their money in the common market, schooll fees, hospitals, restaurants, mechanics, àbí they will not drive car or fall sick?
Myopic thinking that only profit is fuel price


.
Dangote really scam CBN and the collective hope of Nigerians.
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by ufotunang: 2:15am On Feb 16
Only God knows when this refinery will finally start ... nigerians are tired of too much stories and big grammar
Re: Dangote Refinery To Export Two Fuel Cargoes by BALLOSKI: 6:14am On Feb 16
proff010:
IMF will soon advise dangote not to sell to local market in Nigeria.
I no de understand those people!

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