The Mark of the Beast - If You See It, It’s Too Late.
The Book of Revelation is rife with confusing passages. Yet it is crystal clear on the need to avoid the Mark of the Beast at all costs. But how do you make sure you do? What if they force it on you or trick you into taking it? Don’t we need to identify it now to best avoid it? Is it a figurative mark and somehow already here today? Also, why would anyone take it given the clear warnings described against it? Find out everything you need to know about the Mark of the Beast—plus a startling new insight on the months of torture awaiting those who take action too late.

If the Antichrist is the most dreaded threat of the Book of Revelation, then his mark would have to be a close second. Just as people wonder who might be the Antichrist today, they also wonder whether the Mark of the Beast is already here. As a result, the following passage from Revelation about the Mark of the Beast is one of the most quoted passages in the Bible:

The Mark of the Beast Passage
Revelation 13:16-18 (HCSB) — 16 And he [the False Prophet] requires everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom:, The one who has understanding must calculate the number of the beast, because it is the number of a man. His number is 666.
This passage is talking about the Great Tribulation (Mt 24:21) or the time when the Antichrist (or first Beast of Revelation 13) rules the entire earth. The second beast of Revelation 13, also called the False Prophet (Rev 16:13; 19:20; 20:10), will put in place a system of total control. They will attempt to brand every human with a mark that is needed for commerce. Obviously, without being able to buy or sell anything, you are not going to function in society or last long.

Despite the downsides of this path, it's plain from another passage that you can choose to refuse the mark:

Revelation 20:4 (HCSB) Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge. I also saw the people, who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of God’s word, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted the mark on their foreheads or their hands.
This passage should reassure those who worry that they can be tricked into taking the mark or forced to take it without their permission. It seems that the False Prophet will need your permission. Otherwise there would be nobody who "had not accepted the mark." The bad news is that they will not accept your response of "no, thanks" kindly. They will try to persuade all people to take the mark through at least four separate pressures or methods of persuasion.

Four Powerful Pressures For Taking the Mark
The first pressure is what Paul calls the strong delusion (2Th 2:11). The Antichrist will actually succeed in pawning himself off as God on earth ruling from the Third Temple in Jerusalem (2Th 2:4). Jesus said that this deception would be so convincing that even the "very elect" would be taken by it if it were possible. Thankfully, it's not possible because God intervenes with the Two Witnesses and 144,000 to preach the truth as a alternative to the popular lie (Mt 24:24). Despite God's counter-programming, the vast majority of the people are going to be convinced that the Antichrist is indeed God. This is due to the convincing signs performed at the hand of the False Prophet. These include calling fire down from heaven and making the image (statue) of the Beast that speaks (Rev 13:13-15).

The second pressure takes care of the minority who do not fall for the strong delusion. It appears from the passage above that the False Prophet will command death for those who refuse the mark. This is just as he does to those who refuse to worship the image/statue of the beast (Rev 13:15 = Rev 20:4). Many Christians will have read their Bibles or heard and believed the warning of the mark, but they simply are not martyr-material. They will crumble under the pressure. Like Jesus said, the love of believers will wax cold and believers will betray each other to save their own skin (Mt 24:12, 10).

To understand the third and fourth pressures requiers a correct understanding of the prophetic roadmap and especially where the Great Tribulation fits in it. Most believe or have been taught that the Great Tribulation begins at the First Seal. While the White Horseman does indeed seem to fit the Antichrist, that's an incorrect conclusion; it actually refers to what Jesus said about the many (religions) that would come in his name, talk about him, and deceive many (Mt 24:5). The real match for the rise of Antichrist and start of the Great Tribulation is the 5th trumpet. When someone shows you the proof of how the Great Tribulation starts when Satan is cast out of heaven (he has not been cast out yet) as the start of three "woes," the Great Tribulation / 5th trumpet connection becomes pretty self-evident (cf. Dan 12:1=Rev 12:7-17=Mt 24:15,21=Rev 9:1-6, 11-13).
Once you get that crucial point correct, it opens up the possibility of seeing a couple of other key insights. First, obviously the 5th Trumpet follows the 4th Trumpet. The 4th Trumpet concludes the sequence of severe global catastrophes on earth caused by near earth objects (such as Star Wormwood) starting at the 6th seal. This will leave the world in a state of devastation (Rev 6:14; 8:7, 9), fear, panic, chaos (Rev 6:15-16), dark , cold (Rev 8:12), smoke, fires (Rev 8:8-9), water scarcity (Rev 8:10-11) and famine (Rev 8:7, 9, 12). Second, this answers how the Antichrist comes to power. It provides the perfect scenario for the Antichrist as the would-be God and "Savior of the world" to arrive and be the only solution all the problems—including the severe food shortage. Probably the mark will be presented as part of his plan to solve both the security (identification) and shortages of basic necessities (rationing). (Americans saw a similar thing after the 9-11 attack with the push for a national-ID called Real ID.)

Thus, the third pressure would be that, given the clear scarcity of food and clean water prior to the rise of the Beast, you will not get your basic living needs met without accepting the mark. The threat of death from thirst and starvation will already be mounting by the time the mark is presented to offer relief. If you do not take it, death will be knocking at the door. Principles and skepticism go out the window in such dire situations.

But there are always stubborn, crafty and prepared people who would still refuse the mark and scratch out an existence "off the grid." There is apparently another, fourth, pressure that will take care of even them. At the 5th Trumpet, we are told that an army of deadly scorpion-like locusts with teeth and stingers are released from imprisonment in the Abyss (Rev 9:1-3). Although lethal-looking (Rev 9:7-9), they do not go out to kill people; they only go out to torture everyone except the 144,000 and the other gathered-protected servants of God (Rev 9:4-5; 7:3-4; 12:13-17) . It actually says people will seek death but not be able to have it (Rev 9:6). These demonic creatures will no doubt be able to search out every nook and cranny where survivalists and other resistors with stashes of food and ammunition are hiding. Their fortification, walls and weapons will not protect them from the locusts. The torture will no doubt be very effective in getting them to accept the mark.

The passage telling us that these tortured people "will seek death and not find it" during the five months seems like a contradiction with what we said above that the False Prophet will cause those refusing the mark to be killed. But if you think it through carefully, you'll see there is a resolution. Yet, it points to a terrifying new realization about the mark that you probably never heard of before. It points to the conclusion that refusing the mark is not rewarded instantly with death. On the contrary, it is rewarded first with up to five months of torture to persuade you to accept the mark. At the end of the five months of the locusts' torture tour, they finally will put you to death. Why the delay? They may be sadists or they may simply prefer to have Beast kingdom subjects than dead defeated martyrs.

(Note, that the locusts passage does not say all people besides God's sealed are tortured. It just says the power is there to do so. Since it makes no sense for the new Antichrist God to make his first order of business the torture his admiring subjects, even those who accept him as God, I think it's a fair deduction that the power to torture is not used on those who take the mark. If he really wanted to capture, mark and torture everyone, then why stop after five months? But if the torture is to force the mark, then it makes sense that the torture is only used for a short time at the beginning. It only takes a few months to find and capture every single living human on earth who is trying to avoid the mark and to try to convince them change their mind.)

In summary, then, here are the four pressures on people that will make most people accept the mark:

The 4 Reasons Why Most People Will Take the Mark
Convinced Antichrist is God on earth
To avoid beheading
To avoid wasting away
To avoid (up to) five months of torture
"Mark" Only Figurative? Or Literal?
Extremely frightening isn't it? Anyone understanding just a fraction of the pressures coming to push the mark on people will naturally want to know exactly what is now so they can be sure to see it coming. Actually, we'll see later why it is that if you want to successfully avoid it (and keep your life), you must never see it.

But, still, people want to know what it is, so the first question then is to ask is what is the intended meaning of the passage describing the mark? Should we read it literally, as a visible marking on the skin of the hand or forehead or figuratively as something completely different (such as, say, "sabbath-breaking/Sunday worship" like the Seventh Day Adventists and others believe)?

A big reason for doubt about the interpretation of the mark passage comes from an uncannily similar instruction to Ancient Israel recorded in the Torah about a sign/symbol in their forehead and hand (Ex 13:9, 16; Dt 6:8; 11:18):

Exodus 13:16 (HCSB) — So let it be a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead, for the LORD brought us out of Egypt by the strength of His hand.
Orthodox Judaism uses this command to justify their tradition of binding of phylacteries to the forehead and hands. However, most agree that Ancient Israel did not follow this verse the way modern Judaism does. Instead, they understood it figuratively as telling them to keep the Torah firmly in mind ("forehead" and in their actions (the "hand". If you agree with this interpretation, then it's natural to read the very similar passage in Revelation exactly the same way: figuratively (especially in a book like Revelation that is already assumed to be mostly symbolically figurative).

But we have to decide how to read a verse individually and in its own context. We cannot assume that every instance of every construct will be used the same, or misinterpretation will result. For example, there are at least three different meanings for the word translated "star" in the Book of Revelation alone (angels, meteors/"shooting stars", and literal stars)! In fact, the use of similar constructs for different purposes seems to be one of the ways that God made the Bible tricky on purpose as Isaiah and Jesus declared about God's word (Isa 6:9-10; Mk 4:11; Mt 13:11; Lk 8:10; 10:21-24).

Why Only a Literal Mark Works
Whenever you are in doubt after carefully considering a verse in context, you can usually resolve it by looking at related passages or in other words by looking at it in the greater Biblical context. Revelation 14:9 is another passage dealing with the Mark of the Beast which we can consult for help. Using it we can dispel any doubt about the literal meaning of the Mark of the Beast.

This passage is the third of three angel's warnings delivered to mankind. This third message specifically warns everyone about the grave consequences of receiving the Mark of the Beast in the "forehead" or "hand:"

Revelation 14:9-10 (HCSB) — 9 And a third angel followed them and spoke with a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10, he will also drink the wine of God’s wrath, He will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels
Now think about the theory of a figurative mark in the context of this dire warning. The unsuspecting general public is going to be given this warning so that they are able to know what to do to avoid God's wrath, a very serious thing indeed. They will need simple clear understandable instructions that they can act on. But a message referencing a forbidden figurative mark is not clear but requires further explanation or thought before people can know what it is they must avoid. This would leave people uncertain and unable to follow the instructions.

If a figurative mark does not work in the warning here, then why did God use figurative language to "warn" Israel about keeping Torah in their thoughts and deeds? It worked for that because that earlier hand/forehead sign referenced something that he had already told them volumes about: the Torah. He wanted to communicate to them how integral they needed to make Torah to their life and he did so using a powerful metaphorical illustration. In contrast, the mark warning is a stand-alone command to a general public who God has only spoken two other messages ever in total to. Thus, metaphorical language does not get the job done. The warning about receiving a "mark in the head or hand" can only refer to a literal marking on the forehead or hand which people can readily understand, identify, and know what to do when they encounter it.

But Wait, If There'll Be a Universal Warning, Why Won't Everyone Just Listen and Avoid the Mark?
With that settled, it raises another question. If the warning about the mark is going to be as global and clear as stated above, then why will anyone get trapped into taking the mark?

This is a simple question with a not-so-simple answer. It requires knowing several aspects of the end times in order to understand it. To help with that, let me outline the distinct categories people will fall into when the mark is out:

3 Categories of People When the Mark Comes
Mark accepters (alive, but destined for God's wrath)
Mark rejecters/martyrs (dead or soon-to-be dead(see below) but destined for the First Resurrection)
Mark evaders (alive and destined for the rapture)
The first two categories are obvious and self-explanatory, but the last one, of mark evader requires explanation. The mark evaders are obviously similar to the mark rejecters in wanting to heed the universal warning about not taking the mark. However, they differ from the mark rejecters in the two aspects of proactivity and of faith. We shall see that to evade the mark is not as simple or foolproof as it may seem to you now.

By way of illustration, you could compare it to the challenge of getting a girl to evade teen pregnancy by giving her a warning about it when she is ten years old. She may agree at that age that teen pregnancy is a bad outcome which she does not want. Yet, after she passes puberty, certain temptations must be resisted or certain actions taken for the teen pregnancy warning to work out well.

Similarly, when you hear the warning about the mark, you must take a specific action before the mark even arrives. If you do not do so, it will be too late and you will get pregnant, as the analogy goes, or be left with choices 1 and 2 above only. That's the proactive aspect of evading the mark.

The faith aspect of evading the mark comes in because the action required to avoid the mark will be to "come out of Babylon" (Rev 18:4; Jer 50:8; 51:6, 9, 45). The end time prophecies of the Bible repeatedly speak of God leading his faithful servants out of their home countries to a place he prepares to feed them during the Great Tribulation (Rev 12:12-17). However, it will not be so clear that this is right to do, as it is to, say, exit a burning house when someone shouts "Fire! Get out!" Probably everything in the world will look as fine (if you ca call it that) as it does today. It will be counterintuitive.

It has been my experience that when this clear (future) travel prophecy from the Bible is shared with normal church-going Christians, they reflexively reject it. It sounds ridiculous to the average Christian that God would ever require his people to do something so radical as to leave their homes. Many of them miss the obvious irony in their objection to a future God-given travel command in light of the fact that God has done this very thing repeatedly in the past with his faithful servants as the OT records. He told Abraham to leave his country. Lot had to leave Sodom. He told the entire nation of Israel to leave Egypt. Sure, they were slaves there anyway, but there are many parallels to their literal slavery and our modern slavery to sin, addictions, distractions, etc. in our home countries that an end time exodus would release us from, too.

(Note: A major reason that many despair upon hearing about needing to move to escape the end times, is that, again, they are not remembering the lessons of the Exodus. When God commanded Israel to leave Egypt, he did not abandon them but gave them tremendous "provision to go along with the commission" as the saying goes. They had great leadership, divine protection, payment of back wages through spoiling of the Egyptians and miracles such as the Red Sea crossing, shoes not wearing out, healings, manna from heaven to feed them, water from the rock to drink, victory over their enemies, etc. We can expect the same thing again when God again commands his servants to march out. Passports, money, illnesses unwilling spouses and children will all be worked out (cf Ex 19:4 = Rev 12:14). Hope this helps)

Another reason that faith will tie in greatly is that, most likely, the instructions of the three angels will be spoken to people not by the three angels themselves, but by humans; prophets. This probably sounds ridiculous at first but if you read the passage carefully you'll note that it never quite says that the angels themselves do the preaching of their own messages (Rev 14:6). It simply says they "have" the messages to be preached. This leaves room for someone else to do the preaching. This phrasing is good because it does not make the passage break with precedent for how angels are tasked by God in the Bible. Angels usually interface only with the righteous or small groups of the public. When God deals with the general public or nations, he uses men exclusively.

I think the answer to which men it will be this time is found, by no coincidence, in the verses immediately preceding (Rev 14:1-5). If you ever wondered who the 144,000 are and why they are given such special protection so that the Beast's forces cannot touch them, this would answer that. Their message of warning must go out without encumbrance to counteract the powerful dragnet that the Beast will be allowed to unleash on humanity. However, like all prophets before them, they are mere men and not as fearsome and compelling as an angel of light speaking before your eyes. People will be able to doubt and ignore the warnings and call to action of the 144,000 men.

It should not be hard for the reader to imagine how most Christians will scoff at even a real miracle-working Bible-conforming prophet sent by God telling people to "come out of Babylon" per the prophecies. Christians by nature rely on their pastors and other Christians to tell them what is right or what to do. They sincerely believe "all these churches can't be wrong." Thus, when most churches advise people to ignore the crazy prophet mesage to leave, and just stay "safe in Jesus" where they are and/or await the "pretrib rapture," it will be largely followed. They will not have the faith or guts to obey the command to leave early enough in order to avoid the mark.

Then, when they actually see the Abomination of Desolation (military takeover of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Antichrist) that they were warned would come, they will want to obey the "crazy" instructions they ignored years before. However, if they are not close to the location that God told them to move to, there will be no chance of them making it there in time before the Great Tribulation begins (30 days later).

The mark edict will soon be issued and they will be faced with the tough choice of option 1 or option 2. Option 3, of mark evasion, will have expired.

What To Do Today To Escape the Mark
Clearly, every believer prefers to avoid ending up in that no-win situation of having to choose between martyrdom and markdom. We all want choice 3; neither. To have that option, the challenge at that point of no return will be in having the discernment to recognize which way God is leading; "should I stay or should I go?" Even if you do recognize the truth spoken by God's prophets on leaving, you will also need the faith to go ahead with the minority in following such radical and hard instructions.

The question, then, is how do we develop the faith and boldness needed to take the hard early action required to avoid the mark? Jesus gave us the clearest advice I know:

Luke 18:8 (HCSB) I tell you that He will swiftly grant them justice. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will He find that faith on earth? 

Luke 17:5-6 (HCSB) 5 The apostles said to the Lord, “Increase our faith.” 6 “If you have faith the size of a mustard seed,” the Lord said, “you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘Be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it will obey you. 

Luke 21:36 (ESV) But stay awake at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are going to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Ever notice that nowhere in the Gospels can you find Jesus directly answering the question of how one increases their faith? I was frustrated at that for a while when I was wanting more faith, like the apostles. Finally, I realized that the Bible gives us the answer elsewhere and everywhere.

In the many stories of the Bible we see God's servants walking prayerfully with him through hardships and learning several things in the process. They learn how to recognize his hand leading. This normally does not consist of voices, dreams, and visions, but of coincidences or "God-incidences" or "open doors" (Rev 3:8, 20) and "closed doors" (Rev 3:7). They learn what he is likely to to do or lead us to do and what he is not likely to do nor lead us to do. They learn how to trust him when the situation looks like he has abandoned them and just wait in patience and peace until the clear direction come to act, if any action is required. In other words, they learn faith and how to act on it.

If you pray daily about having faith and strength as Jesus instructed, then you can be sure that God will hear that prayer according to his will. In response, he will direct you just as he did the servants in the Bible who wanted the same thing. You will be put in sometimes uncomfortable situations like they were which require you to be bold and radical at times, and to be inactive or meek at other times; the whole gamut. This will prepare you for all situations including the coming crisis of decision over leaving your home country early enough to escape the Mark of the Beast.

Conclusion
The Mark of the Beast is going to be far more irresistible than most Christians can imagine. But to get distracted today with trying to figure out exactly what it is in advance is not the solution to the problem of the mark. Even if you did figure that out, it would do you no good. If you see the mark, it will already be too late to escape it with your life intact.

The proper escape will instead require faith and proactive, radical action. Unfortunately, as Jesus insinuated, faith will be a rare trait in the end times (Lk 18:. Further, you do not learn bold and radical action by just going to church every Sunday and listening to your pastor. The answer is to follow Jesus' advice to stay awake and to pray daily for strength to escape what is coming (Lk 21:36). God will be sure to answer that prayer by guiding your life so that you get the experiences and information which will develop the faith and radical streak you will need when the time comes. What's more, these two things will help you to serve God and shine your light even better every day along the way, just like the faithful maverick Jesus did.

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plappville:

The Mark of the Beast - If You See It, It’s Too Late

There will still be opportunity for salvation for some people who will be left behind at that time . It's just that their salvation will be by works and not by grace.

Joagbaje:

There will still be opportunity for salvation for some people who will be left behind at that time . It's just that their salvation will be by works and not by grace.

U re right, the writer stated it in his article. It's best to be well prapared and avoid the 1st and 2rd options.
Every believer should work/pray and watch to be among the mark evaders(rapture guaranteed)
As the option two will be terrible due to lack of Grace to face the tribulations. May his grace keep us straight and focus to this great period amen.

Joagbaje:

There will still be opportunity for salvation for some people who will be left behind at that time . It's just that their salvation will be by works and not by grace.

Wrong !!!!

Joagbaje:

There will still be opportunity for salvation for some people who will be left behind at that time . It's just that their salvation will be by works and not by grace.

hhmm,  that is going to be a tough nut to crack since the Bible says that after rapture God will send a strong Otumokpoor to delude those left-behind.
If you are left behind then you are stuck up shi.t-creek without a paddle 

"2 Thess. 2: 11-12 [/b]And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness . "

I think your Salvation by Works hypothesis is just conjecture following this bible passage -- >

[b]Revelation 7: 14: "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Make no mistake -if you get to see the Mark of The Beast - you are finished, Ogaga4Luv and his Satanic Crew will have you all kinds of wayz - and you know it will please him immeasurably

Revelation 13

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

[size=14pt]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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[size=14pt]If any man have an ear, let him hear.[/size]

He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
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And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.[/size]

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

This is a very important topic that we need to address.

Will read through after work and make some important comments.

Watch this space

from Frosbel: Wrong!!!!

@Frosbel how?

the mark of the beast is "sunday worship" and more it is part of economic system you won't be able to buy sale or trade with the mark

@frosbel,

from Frosbel: Wrong!!!!

You've still not explain why you said I was wrong.

was waiting for some insight - oh well

watch this link here it will open your mind to the real truth


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl41CEcIUpw

crossman9:

the mark of the beast is "sunday worship" and more it is part of economic system you won't be able to buy sale or trade with the mark

That is why, one has to be stonge in the lord, my daily prayer is for him to give me the strenght to wait on him.

Better not to see the mark.

The sequence of events is rather that the Rapture of the saints (christians) will take place before the Great Tribulation.

plappville:

But there are always stubborn, crafty and prepared people who would still refuse the mark and scratch out an existence "off the grid." There is apparently another, fourth, pressure that will take care of even them. At the 5th Trumpet, we are told that an army of deadly scorpion-like locusts with teeth and stingers are released from imprisonment in the Abyss (Rev 9:1-3). Although lethal-looking (Rev 9:7-9), they do not go out to kill people; they only go out to torture everyone except the 144,000 and the other gathered-protected servants of God (Rev 9:4-5; 7:3-4; 12:13-17) . It actually says people will seek death but not be able to have it (Rev 9:6). These demonic creatures will no doubt be able to search out every nook and cranny where survivalists and other resistors with stashes of food and ammunition are hiding. Their fortification, walls and weapons will not protect them from the locusts. The torture will no doubt be very effective in getting them to accept the mark.

The passage telling us that these tortured people "will seek death and not find it" during the five months seems like a contradiction with what we said above that the False Prophet will cause those refusing the mark to be killed. But if you think it through carefully, you'll see there is a resolution. Yet, it points to a terrifying new realization about the mark that you probably never heard of before. It points to the conclusion that refusing the mark is not rewarded instantly with death. On the contrary, it is rewarded first with up to five months of torture to persuade you to accept the mark. At the end of the five months of the locusts' torture tour, they finally will put you to death. Why the delay? They may be sadists or they may simply prefer to have Beast kingdom subjects than dead defeated martyrs.

(Note, that the locusts passage does not say all people besides God's sealed are tortured. It just says the power is there to do so. Since it makes no sense for the new Antichrist God to make his first order of business the torture his admiring subjects, even those who accept him as God, I think it's a fair deduction that the power to torture is not used on those who take the mark. If he really wanted to capture, mark and torture everyone, then why stop after five months? But if the torture is to force the mark, then it makes sense that the torture is only used for a short time at the beginning. It only takes a few months to find and capture every single living human on earth who is trying to avoid the mark and to try to convince them change their mind.)

The locusts torture is for all those who continue in refusing to accept Jesus as the Christ and Messiah. Tribulation saints would be exempt from this

I agreed with you concerning the Mark of the Beast and the great tribulation. It will really be terrible.
But I'am not sure or I can't guaranty that there will be another opportunity for anybody that missed the rapture.

Consedring the following verses:
Hebrews 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Also.
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

So you see, The end time issue and the mark of the beast could also be a time of clear distinction between believers and unbelievers and then the harvest will take place.
I can't guaranty any opportunity of making heaven after rapture. Bearing in mind that rapture involves the resurrection of the saints who are already death before the rapture.

After the rapture the world will face the wrath of God. Where God will punish those in earth including the antichrist.

Surely, there is a chance for does left behind after the rapture to still make Heaven. However, they will have to endure and experience much persecution and catastrophe. The best thing therefore is to go with the first batch.

Come dear Jesus, We await Thee.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

It will happen after the rapture. Those whose names is not written in the book of life of Jesus Christ,the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the earth will experience the trials and the acceptance of the mark.
They shall surely be given a second chance,this time their works shall determine their faith.

Ozichim:

I agreed with you concerning the Mark of the Beast and the great tribulation. It will really be terrible.
But I'am not sure or I can't guaranty that there will be another opportunity for anybody that missed the rapture.

Consedring the following verses:
Hebrews 12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.

Also.
Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
Matthew 13:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
Matthew 13:26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
Matthew 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
Matthew 13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
Matthew 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
Matthew 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

So you see, The end time issue and the mark of the beast could also be a time of clear distinction between believers and unbelievers and then the harvest will take place.
I can't guaranty any opportunity of making heaven after rapture. Bearing in mind that rapture involves the resurrection of the saints who are already death before the rapture.

After the rapture the world will face the wrath of God. Where God will punish those in earth including the antichrist.

In this case there is no need for the period of great tortured by trying to brainwash the left behind to take the mark. Rapture has taken place, those who believed in Christ but somewhere along the line were not faithful with their heart, Those who never believed but have heard about the danger of taking the mark, they are the people that may decide to suffer their flesh no matter the torture, they will refused it, but its not gonna be easy, as many will giveup by accepting the mark. This is where faith will determined according to Judek2. No more grace for them. This passage makes it clearer:Revelation 20:4 (HCSB) Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge. I also saw the people, who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of God’s word, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted the mark on their foreheads or their hands.

Judek2:

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

It will happen after the rapture. Those whose names is not written in the book of life of Jesus Christ,the lamb that was slain from the foundation of the earth will experience the trials and the acceptance of the mark.
They shall surely be given a second chance,this time their works shall determine their faith.

To the bold, true there is the second chance, but best we avoid it, it is not to be witness at all.

Revelation 14:9-10 (HCSB) — 9 And a third angel followed them and spoke with a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10, he will also drink the wine of God’s wrath, He will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the sight of the holy angels

nahinbdis:

Surely, there is a chance for does left behind after the rapture to still make Heaven. However, they will have to endure and experience much persecution and catastrophe. The best thing therefore is to go with the first batch.

Come dear Jesus, We await Thee.

The inssurance to make the first batch is to hold firm to his word, and remain new as we are from the first day we confessed him.

I hope so. I really wish it should be the way you discribe. I have been looking for clearer understanding of the end time events.
If there will be another chance that will be good.

But my advice to every believer is that they shouldn't relax waiting for the second chance to prove their faith.
One don't really know how he/she will die.

When exactly do we think the rapture will take place.

Now check this out and I can explain more if need be.
There are clear different between Great tribulation and the wrath of God.

There are basically two belief here:
Pre-Tribulation rapture
Mid-Tribulation rapture
there is a third one (Post Tribulation) but I don't think that one has biblical backing.

Pre-tibulation I think would have been better for Christians and it is the most popular or most well explained by believers.

Pre-tribulation rapture is the rapture comming before the great tribulation.
If the rapture should come before the great tribulation then thats well and good by His grace I'm ready.

But I don't think; the scripture has not been contradicted if we get med-tribulation rapture.

Can somebody throw more light on this.
When will the Great tribulation come? When will it start and when will it end.
When will the wrath of God Start and when will it end?


Now another question:
Those that missed the rapture but managed not to recieve the mark of the beast; (lets assume that as many as did not recieve the mark must be killed even if they are in the forest) after they have been killed; when will they come to heaven?

Does it mean that those tribulation saints have (and will miss) the marriage supper of the lamb?

Revelation 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

This marriage supper comes soon after rapture. And as I said before the resurection of the deaths in Christ also took place at the rapture.

I'm not sure when the resuraction/rapture of those that got the second chance took place. And again after the rapture I don't think there is another people hervested(second rapture).

Aslo after the rapture the wrath of God follows and this is so terrible. So the things are not very clear to me.

the rapture does not even appear in the bible but the taking away is what is going to take place and it will be after the great tribulation, those who are dead will be brought back to life again, and then the rest that are alive will meet him up in the sky and the dead in Christ will hear the voice of and arch angel and this will be the lord speaking and they wake and meet him in the heavens the stratosphere and they will go to the holy city Jerusalem in Israel this is the (first resurrection) the second death has no power over them? And will go with the lord where the lord will stand on the “mountain of olives” then the armies of the nation will come to make war against him and they will gather at “meggedio”  what most call the “battle of Armageddon” this is only the gather place the real battle will take place in the “valley of the eternal judgment” better known as the “Valley Jehoshaphat” then the lord will overcome them he will send angels and with the sword out of his mouth they will all die and be struck down the blood will rise as high as the horse bridle running past the city it will be a battle unlike any in history and then man, will have the "Law restored" to him the word will go out from Zion and people will come every year to keep the feast of tabernacle and if they don’t keep this they will have no rain on the land and everyone will be keeping the law of God and the world will have a Sabbath of peace for one thousand years then the other nations will march across the earth after Satan is released to make war against the holy people but they will turn on each other and will take seven months to bury the dead no one will be out of work at that time and there will be spoils of the war and then the resurrection will take place call the great white throne judgment and all the dead will be judged with the saints and Christ and those who are not in the book of life will be put aside until the final judgment where the earth will be burned up with the rest of the universe and there will be weeping and those who were not in the book of life will simple die and it be like they never where dead
then the new heaven and the new earth and we will be like angels but much more we be like Gods sons but now we are just gods in the image this is when your truly born again the final stage?
And we will be with the lamb for ever there will be no more death or war or false pastors a liars they will be gone only the angels that are clean will be there for all time? No demons no unclean people only the real Christians but they will we not be called this no more they will be sons of God?

Can,t you all see d spirit of the antichrist already at work now, false prophets, cultism, withcraft, evil leaders, different religious organizations, al in the name of belonging, i heard in some market or business if you don't belong you can't sell, witches, cultists network everywhere in order to control trade and commerce, even these devil worshippers are the most committed worshippers in churches and regular in attendance polluting and thwarting the progress of the church by their sorcery and controlling the man of God , they create poverty, sin,sickness, all those beast in revelation are spiritual figurative spirit representative of satan manifesting his attributes through men, ok how does a best behave? i will tell you when man marries man, woman marries woman,a brother kills his brother over fifty naira,a father rapes daughter, is that not beastlike attitude? everything in the world system is gathering to welcome the man of lawlessness, their father devil reincarnate called antichrist,the beast is a demonic spirit, like d serpent in eden was cursed but reality it was d devil himself, and also d prince of persia is a demon dat witheld daniel prayer for 21 days,

Posted by: @divineson, I agree with you, the beast is manifesting already. We know we are in the signs that tells Christ coming. One needs to hold firm and be strong, the most decietful times are here. The wise serpent is not relenting, So should we not. God will strenghten us till the end Amen.

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Ogaga4Luv:

[size=13pt]^{There will be 666 different options or versions of the mark. The beast will have 666 slightly different names that all . One of these names will seem appropriate and attractive to each person on earth. we're taking over the World our time is now , your one World order (GOD ) is off . now is our time , the new world order is now and never going to change !!} [/size]

We are told here in: II Thessalonians 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: "only he who now letteth will let, "until he be taken out of the way". 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

So Whatever option it may come, the church is aware. Be sure that the "hindering" is the church full of God's Holy Spirit power. You ve not yet the power to take over the world yet. I must tell you that, right now, the overcoming church is the salt and light that is keeping this world from becoming an absolute cesspool of depravity.


The antichrist could not rise to power as long as the church is on the earth.
I know you might be wondering "how can that be??", See scriptures for urself:.

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it

The church knows that the owner of SIN will be powerful when he will be revealed, But Jesus has promised that as long as His church is on the earth, the "government" of hell will not prevail against it.

Luke 10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you

I John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world


I hope u can now understand that the church is indeed "hindering" the antichrist.
He cannot be "revealed" as stated in (II Thess 2: until we are taken out. And then, he will be consumed.

[size=13pt]^{keep making mouth until we reach your door step . . .no joking , nothing is going to STOP the anti-- Christianity movement . I won't tell u how far we've gone because u won't believe the only way to convince u is when u see with your eyes clearly that the time isn't far .}
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[Quote]Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
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Re: The Mark Of The Beast - If You See It, It’s Too Late.
« #5 on: November 11, 2011, 05:25 PM »

This is a very important topic that we need to address.

Will read through after work and make some important comments.

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@frosbel: the ^^^ is a reminder.

here is branch of the devils church the other is catholic church the mark of the beast is sunday worship

@ crossman9

crossman9:

the mark of the beast is "sunday worship"

Where did you get this revelation of yours from. You call others false.,But you teach heresy

plappville:

The Book of Revelation is rife with confusing passages.

The best part of your write up.

sunday worship  is part of the mark of the beast i will prove it to you it has to do with money
as well and a cashless world, but if i live through the night ill teach you some time on the phone Joagbaje or on skype