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Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by paris10: 5:33am On Nov 13, 2011 |
horny4u: My friend,you're a typical Muslim. You don't have to hide your religion. A typical muslim would say what you just vomited; "Islam is a religion of peace", really?. Terrorists causing carnage, Hausa's killing Christians and the arab world bombing themselves. Only ignorant fools like you would come out and defend a religion that is based on the premise of killing and killing of non-muslims. Yoruba muslims like you aren't Muslims at all because you not adhering to the suicide teachings of your prophet. A real muslim would kill and do anything to defend Islam. Only coward Yoruba muslims (I believe Yoruba muslims are part muslim, part Christian) would do nothing than utter those words. You also said we are one! How is this possible? Is Allah the same as God (not god o)? If so, how come the opposite of Bible is Quran? Is God then a liar? Read what Allah said in the Quran and read what God said in the Bible, compare and contrast, obvious big difference. Typical example, virgins waiting for terrorists in heaven, kill all the kafir , God have no son and so on. God must have gotten drunk when saying all these things in the Quran and yet said the opposite in the Bible? Think again! |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by sebastinta(m): 6:46am On Nov 13, 2011 |
IbroSaunks: that site is all abt d old testerment, jews follow d old testament nd christians for the New 1, we only compare the old testament, dont get it twisted |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by IbroSaunks(m): 6:55am On Nov 13, 2011 |
paris10:umm, going by ur "speech", it can also be inferred that the Muslims in Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, and all over the world that don't kill Christians are not real Muslims. no be me na Wetin u dey talk. what i just wish is, that u open ur mind and let people enlighten u first before u write speeches like this. u do not know a thing about Islam, its holy book, its Prophet (PBUH), anything! u access Islam by the behaviour of Muslims and not the teachings of the religion. you cannot understand the Quran by just seeing a few verses. you cannot understand the religion by doing that. you do not know anything, and im sure u let the media guide ur train of thoughts. so go back and ask, why Islam is the religion of peace, and who terrorists are. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by IbroSaunks(m): 6:57am On Nov 13, 2011 |
sebastinta:but there are links to bible study websites there na |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by Joagbaje(m): 7:15am On Nov 13, 2011 |
It depends on what you mean by faith and religious. Man may search for God through religion, But God is in the name of Jesus, John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by sebastinta(m): 7:22am On Nov 13, 2011 |
IbroSaunks: i didnt post d link d oda guy did, it ur so interested in it, www.evilbible.com dere u go |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by IbroSaunks(m): 7:43am On Nov 13, 2011 |
@sebastinta but i am the other guy, :-/ |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by sebastinta(m): 8:37am On Nov 13, 2011 |
IbroSaunks: ooo yea u r , but d old testament of d bible is similar to the torah of d jews, point out d evil verses in d new testament? |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by zinosleek(m): 9:40am On Nov 13, 2011 |
@pastuer and u think d anti christ movement will start outside the church? ti will definitely rise from the church if it has not started breeding itself there already. the thing is that religion has now become a tool of brainwashing people to act and believe in a certain way that a few people want the masses to. thats why one has to be vigilant and wise and pray from counsel from God to guide u. the latest tool use now by christain religion is that of miracle, we dont even look at life after death forgeting that d devil can also perform black magic. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by zinosleek(m): 9:56am On Nov 13, 2011 |
we have had the nazis and the jew, the blacks and white(racism), cultural clashes(ethnic cleansing as seen in rwanda) and the oldest of all is religious war which is still causing havoc till today. i believe every religion embrace living in peace and harmony, then why the fight? because we still allow ourselves to be lead by mortal like us who twist the doctrine for their own selfish gains. when a man decides to seek God by himself and revernce with him regardless of his religion then he will come to know the true meaning of his existence and he will realise that religion is man-made and God is universal |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by pendo89(f): 10:01am On Nov 13, 2011 |
Nope. RELIGION IS MAN'S WAY OF REACHING GOD FAITH IS GOD'S WAY OF REACHING MAN WHAT I HAVE IS FAITH. But because the God I serve is associated with christianity then am labelled a christian. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by babakb: 11:57am On Nov 13, 2011 |
calling islam the religion of peace is a misunderstanding, Islam is the total submission to the will of ALLAH and RASULULLAH (SAW), regardless of how you critisize islam, is still growing day after day, if you like call us murderers, fanatics, terrorists, molesters, extrimists etc we remain muslims for life and for your information islam is not only a personal relationship with ALLAH, Islam is all encompassing, the Qur'an and the Hadith teaches us our faith system, educational system, family system, security system, financial system, social system, defense system etc. if you claim the bible is God's words please why didn't it come from God direct like the Qur'an, in the bible you will always read "the book of God according to , " but in the Qur'an is a direct command from ALLAH to RASULULLAH eg first verse of chapter ikhlas: Say ALLAH is one. talking about jihad that the whole world is against, jihad is the defense system of muslims and this defense can be proactive or reactive depending on the circumstances, without doubt there are some muslims that are abusing some provisions of islam but that will never make us renounce our true religion, anywhere i see real jihad i will be among those fighting in the way of ALLAH and RASULULLAH, please don't be deceived Islam is the only real thing in this world take advantage before is too late. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by nodogma: 3:55pm On Nov 13, 2011 |
It depends on which God you are talking about. If you are referring to the God of the bible, then religion is needed because that God has many rules and regulations that followers must adhere to. The bible is the spiritual book for Christianity. For Christians, this religion is needed to manifest what they study in the bible. However, if one does not place God in a box, such as only believing in the God of the bible/ Jesus, then no religion is not needed to exercise faith in God. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by AroOkigbo(m): 5:28pm On Nov 13, 2011 |
Just thinking of a world without fanatical moslems, |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by ikhideman(m): 10:13am On Nov 14, 2011 |
@Poster: Nope! Religion is bondage; check out Hebrews 11:1-6 Religion is: "trying to please God by Works of the flesh"; that's someone thinking God would be impressed by good works ALONE! Faith(belief that Jesus died & resurrected for us once & for all) is what pleases God, i.e. without Faith its impossible to please God - (Hebrews 11:6) |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by Kizilala: 11:02am On Nov 14, 2011 |
IbroSaunks: Really?They don't kill Christians?Do you watch news at all? |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by Fancier(f): 4:56pm On Nov 14, 2011 |
Being Religious is far different form being godly, I can be religious and not have the fear of God in Me. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by iotama22: 4:31am On Dec 17, 2011 |
EXCERPTS FROM Judek2: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-801408.96.html On the bolded,it seems you are out of this world . Islam was formed on violence "The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah's Cause." (Qur'an:9:5)"Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war." (Qur'an:9:112) "The Believers fight in Allah's Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed." (Qur'an:9:29)"Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission." (Ishaq:3257)"Muslims, fight in Allah's Cause. Stand firm and you will prosper. Help the Prophet, obey him, give him your allegiance, and your religion will be victorious." Qur'an:8:39 "Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah." Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non- Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)." Ishaq:324 "He said, 'Fight them so that there is no more rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.'" Qur'an:9:14 "Fight them and Allah will punish them by your hands, lay them low, and cover them with shame. He will help you over them." Ishaq:300 "I am fighting in Allah's service. This is piety and a good deed. In Allah's war I do not fear as others should. For this fighting is righteous, true, and good." Ishaq:587 "Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace." Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding." Ishaq:326 "Prophet exhort the believers to fight. If there are twenty good fighters they will defeat two hundred for they are a senseless people. They do not fight with good intentions nor for truth." Bukhari:V4B52N63 "A man whose face was covered with an iron mask came to the Prophet and said, 'Allah's Apostle! Shall I fight or embrace Islam first?' The Prophet said, 'Embrace Islam first and then fight.' So he embraced Islam, and was martyred. Allah's Apostle said, 'A Little work, but a great reward.'" Bukhari:V4B53N386 "Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: 'Whoever amongst us is killed as a martyr shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.'" Muslim:C34B20N4668 "The Messenger said: 'Anybody who equips a warrior going to fight in the Way of Allah is like one who actually fights. And anybody who looks after his family in his absence is also like one who actually fights." Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place." They re uncountable. If you want more, visit http://Prophetofdoom.net/Islamic_Quotes.Islam |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by UncleCharles: 9:05am On Nov 03, 2012 |
emofine: Yes to your last question. You apparently think that there are numerous Gods but there is only one and no religion can hold patent rights over Him. He is the Creator of all and He is without religion. Religion is merely an effort to commercialise the knowledge of the Creator by claiming patent rights and blackmailing anyone who refuses to go through the particular religion and its selfish prescriptions. In the process, religion has become for man, an obstacle to his Creator. This is why Christ could not associate with the Jewish religion and their Pharisees wand priests. This is why the priests plotted his murder because Christ was spoiling their religious business. This is why Christ threw out the money changers at the temple and this is why Christ did not teach or bring a religion. This is also why after Christ's departure, men quickly turned Christ's teachings into a money making religion and forced people to accept it. This is why religion is the biggest business in Nigeria today. |
Re: Does One Need Religion In Order To Exercise Faith In God? by Franklinus: 7:50pm On Jul 10, 2014 |
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