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Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 4:45pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


Quote the laws that's broken!
You are the hypocrite here!

Even holy spirit can't save you!
Leviticus 18:15 Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife; do not have relations with her.
Muhammad is a criminal law breaker who deserved to be stoned to death according to the Torah
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 4:50pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:

Leviticus 18:15 Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son's wife; do not have relations with her.
Muhammad is a criminal law breaker who deserved to be stoned to death according to the Torah

There's no divorced adopted daughter-in-law in your verse?

Look further and bring another verse!

Jesus the adopted son of Joseph the carpenter was hanged accursed on the tree and many Israelites know him to be only a criminal!

Muhammad is revered by his people!
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 4:51pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


David and Solomon were Prophets and kings!

They were both!
Your quran claims Psalms was a revelation to David from Allah while the Jews knew it as Psalms of David.
I'm the Psalms, David put the years of man's life as 70 or 80. Muhammad did not live up to 70. Does that mean Muhammad did not fulfil destiny? Why did Muhammad not live up to 70 according to the "revelation of David" from Allah
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 4:55pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


What's the difference between an adopted son and a son born by an outside affair of your wife?
The difference is that one is legitimate and the other is not. A child born through outside affair is illegitimate.
That said, the child Muhammad had with the Copt woman, was he legitimate or not?
Muhammad was known to have also married two sisters. How does that stand with the Torah?
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 4:56pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:

Your quran claims Psalms was a revelation to David from Allah while the Jews knew it as Psalms of David.
I'm the Psalms, David put the years of man's life as 70 or 80. Muhammad did not live up to 70. Does that mean Muhammad did not fulfil destiny? Why did Muhammad not live up to 70 according to the "revelation of David" from Allah

grin

How old was Jesus and John before they were killed?
cheesy
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 4:59pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


There's no divorced adopted daughter-in-law in your verse?

Look further and bring another verse!

Jesus the adopted son of Joseph the carpenter was hanged accursed on the tree and many Israelites know him to be only a criminal!

Muhammad is revered by his people!
There is no distinction. Your claim is like saying if your father dies, you're at liberty to marry your mother since she's no longer married to your father. Your son is your son and your son's wife is your son's wife whether divorce or not. Have some shame islamist. You use your teeth to bite meat but claim you did not chew it!
Jesus was known to be innocent by the Romans who were the political authority in Judah at the time Jesus lived.
Muhammad was known to be a criminal and a caravan robber by the political authority in mecca. That's why he went about killing them as a bloodthirsty murderer.
Not only that, he was poisoned to death by a woman he was lusting after.
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 5:01pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:

The difference is that one is legitimate and the other is not. A child born through outside affair is illegitimate.
That said, the child Muhammad had with the Copt woman, was he legitimate or not?
Muhammad was known to have also married two sisters. How does that stand with the Torah?

Show us the legimacy of an adopted son in the Bible?

Joseph adopted your Jesus, does that makes him Joseph's son?

Was he ever called by Joseph's name?

Differentiate the terms using your biblical references not common laws!
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 5:08pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:

There is no distinction. Your claim is like saying if your father dies, you're at liberty to marry your mother since she's no longer married to your father.

The Qur'an forbids marrying of ones direct parents and even suckling mother! So that aside.

I don't share any blood with the adopted son so the legitimacy comes only from common law!

The illegitimate son at least has the wife's blood like Jesus!

Your son is your son and your son's wife is your son's wife whether divorce or not. Have some shame islamist. You use your teeth to bite meat but claim you did not chew it!
How is an adopted son your son according to the Bible?

Jesus was known to be innocent by the Romans who were the political authority in Judah at the time Jesus lived.
Muhammad was known to be a criminal and a caravan robber by the political authority in mecca. That's why he went about killing them as a bloodthirsty murderer.
Not only that, he was poisoned to death by a woman he was lusting after.

Jesus's people the Israelites know him to be a criminal today! Most Israelites reject him today!

All Muslims pray for the prophet today for Allah to increase his blessings!
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 5:09pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


Show us the legimacy of an adopted son in the Bible?

Joseph adopted your Jesus, does that makes him Joseph's son?

Was he ever called by Joseph's name?

Differentiate the terms using your biblical references not common laws!


John 6:42 They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”

The Jews don't make any hypocritical distinction between adopted and biological son as long as the father recognises the child as his.
It was same with muhammad until he developed lustful desires towards his adopted son's wife that he had to go and fabricate a quranic verse to exonerate himself.
Take note that he had to do that because the Jews in that area were accusing him of being a false prophet for marrying his son's wife. The Jews made no distinction of his adoption.
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 5:11pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


grin

How old was Jesus and John before they were killed?
cheesy
They were not up to 40. But you see, unlike your fake Muhammad, they never claimed the Psalms were a revelation from one fake Allah.
So you can't use that revelation to judge them. Since the Qur'an says the Psalms was a revelation from Allah and Psalms says the days of man's life is 70 years, can you explain why Muhammad did not live up to 70? Was he cursed by Allah?
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 5:17pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:



John 6:42 They said, “Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, ‘I came down from heaven’?”

The Jews don't make any hypocritical distinction between adopted and biological son as long as the father recognises the child as his.
It was same with muhammad until he developed lustful desires towards his adopted son's wife that he had to go and fabricate a quranic verse to exonerate himself.
Take note that he had to do that because the Jews in that area were accusing him of being a false prophet for marrying his son's wife. The Jews made no distinction of his adoption.

This is not what I requested! Show us laws for adopted son in the Bible!

You quoted Leviticus the other time!
In Genesis 38 the post in this thread,

A brother married a wife. God killed him.
The brother had to create seed for his dead brother!

He doesn't want that as that would be like an illegitimate kid for his brother! He spill seed and God killed him again!

The father impregnated her daughter in law to born twins God no kill am!

The first of the twins were the ancestor of your God Jesus!

Any comments?
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 5:17pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


The Qur'an forbids marrying of ones direct parents and even suckling mother! So that aside.

I don't share any blood with the adopted son so the legitimacy comes only from common law!

The illegitimate son at least has the wife's blood like Jesus!

How is an adopted son your son according to the Bible?



Jesus's people the Israelites know him to be a criminal today! Most Israelites reject him today!

All Muslims pray for the prophet today for Allah to increase his blessings!
There's nothing like legitimacy from common law. The Jews were ruled by God's laws not common laws and they also condemned Muhammad's snatching of his son's wife.

Israelites also reject Muhammad. Jesus did not kill all those who opposed him in Israel unlike Muhammad who killed all those who opposed him in mecca and forced others to follow him. So those who pray for muhammad today in mecca are offspring of his supporters since he already killed and expelled those who opposed him. Muhammad was a murderer who enjoyed killing
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 5:23pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:

They were not up to 40. But you see, unlike your fake Muhammad, they never claimed the Psalms were a revelation from one fake Allah.
So you can't use that revelation to judge them. Since the Qur'an says the Psalms was a revelation from Allah and Psalms says the days of man's life is 70 years, can you explain why Muhammad did not live up to 70? Was he cursed by Allah?

O! You meant the psalm is not a revelation?

What I know is that Zabur is a revelation revealed to Prophet Dawúd!

And our Injeel is not your gospels!
Our Torah is not your old testament nor your Pentateuch!

So how will Zabur be your Psalms?

This is plain foolishness!
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 5:27pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


This is not what I requested! Show us laws for adopted son in the Bible!


There's no distinction between adopted and biological in the Torah just as it was in Islam before Muhammad developed lustful feelings for his son's wife. It might be hard for you accept but that's the fact.

You quoted Leviticus the other time!
In Genesis 38 the post in this thread,

A brother married a wife. God killed him.
The brother had to create seed for his dead brother!

He doesn't want that as that would be like an illegitimate kid for his brother! He spill seed and God killed him again!

The father impregnated her daughter in law to born twins God no kill am!

The first of the twins were the ancestor of your God Jesus!

Any comments?


And how did you know the man refused because the child will be illegitimate? Did you ask him and he told you that? Islamist and lies. The law of procreation for one's relative is in Deuteronomy 25 and there's no distinction made between a child birthed in such manner and one's biological child as far as Jewish law is concerned.
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by AntiChristian: 5:28pm On Mar 24
Kukutente23:

There's nothing like legitimacy from common law. The Jews were ruled by God's laws not common laws and they also condemned Muhammad's snatching of his son's wife.
You're still clutching at straws! What law is broken, you brought laws for a daughter in law. But she's divorced and adopted. Bring a similar sample and show us laws that forbid it. You're just ranting!

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Israelites also reject Muhammad. Jesus did not kill all those who opposed him in Israel unlike Muhammad who killed all those who opposed him in mecca and forced others to follow him. So those who pray for muhammad today in mecca are offspring of his supporters since he already killed and expelled those who opposed him. Muhammad was a murderer who enjoyed killing

There are more Muslims in Israel than Christians! Stop the lies!

Jesus did not kill but his father did kill many!
Is Jesus's father a murderer too that enjoys killing?
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 5:30pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:


O! You meant the psalm is not a revelation?

What I know is that Zabur is a revelation revealed to Prophet Dawúd!

And our Injeel is not your gospels!
Our Torah is not your old testament nor your Pentateuch!

So how will Zabur be your Psalms?

This is plain foolishness!
grin grin grin
So David has two Psalms. One for Muslims and the other for Jews and Christians. You see how fraudulent you guys are now?
I thought Muhammad was mentioned in the Old Testament. Are you saying the Old Testament is fake now? grin cheesy
Re: Is There Any Sane Lesson From Genesis 38? by Kukutente23: 5:52pm On Mar 24
AntiChristian:
You're still clutching at straws! What law is broken, you brought laws for a daughter in law. But she's divorced and adopted. Bring a similar sample and show us laws that forbid it. You're just ranting!
I already showed you that Jews referred to Jesus as Joseph's son and not his adopted son. Son na son as far as Jews were concerned.
Read again Deut 25: 5-6 “
If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family; her husband’s brother shall go in to her, take her as his wife, and perform the duty of a husband’s brother to her. And it shall be that the firstborn son which she bears will succeed to the name of his dead brother, that his name may not be blotted out of Israel.


You can see here that the first son will carry the dead brother's name with no distinction made whether he is the biological son or not. Unfortunately for you, your Muhammad has nowhere to hide. Even in common law that you claimed, an adopted son has all the rights of a biological son including inheritance!! The Jewish law made no such distinction. Son na son. Jesus was Joseph's son as far as Jews were concerned and not an adopted son whose wife Joseph could steal if he so wished. It is only your criminal Muhammad that has no shame taking his son's wife!!


There are more Muslims in Israel than Christians! Stop the lies!

Jesus did not kill but his father did kill many!
Is Jesus's father a murderer too that enjoys killing?

More Muslims in Israel because Muslims occupied the land when Jews were carried into slavery. How many of the Muslims are native israelites?
His father is God the Creator of all things. You can't question a Creator who chooses to destroy his creation. Your claim is like asking Toyota why they stopped making Cressida. It is foolishness. They are the creators and have the right to do what they wish with their creation. Muhammad on the other hand went about killing people he never created. Including people here referred to as God's people. He's a bloody murderer!!

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