Calitoscassius:
Is pastor an occupation? Or a vocation? who makes who a pastor? Anyone one can call himself a pastor, it is all self appointed.



What does an Atheist mean? Does that even mean anything? You don't even know what i believe in, you are rather assuming or concluding that i am an atheist.

Yes, most people who claim to be pastor are truly not.

Your initial comment gave the impression that God doesn't exist.

GanagiBitrus:

Yes, most people who claim to be pastor are truly not.

Your initial comment gave the impression that God doesn't exist.

Good! I am glad you agree with me on that.


Just because i said God doesn't exist doesn't make me an Atheist, i believe in my own God, my kitchen table is could be my God, everyone has their own God, afterall i can see my own God (my kitchen table) unlike the christian's God or other Gods that cannot be seen

Again, what does Atheist really mean?

RIP🙏

Calitoscassius:
Total rubbish! i bet you have never witnessed these bullshit pesonally. Cock and bull story..

I know the people involved personally. They were family friends. Some success is bought at a very high price. What condition did this man give to raise the over N16Billion used to purchase access bank! It will look like someone lent them the money but how about the spiritual forces that made such possible? Those forces require payment in future. The cost of the payment is never disclosed from the beginning.

skj1377:



I know the people involved personally. They were family friends. Some success is bought at a very high price. What condition did this man give to raise the over N16Billion used to purchase access bank! It will look like someone lent them the money but how about the spiritual forces that made such possible? Those forces require payment in future. The cost of the payment is never disclosed from the beginning.

So this story was what they told you? And you believed it?

Well.. ask them to show you how they did it, and they d run away.


Still cock and bull story.

We4all:
Anu! During his induction into the society, his chicken didn't pick many guinea corn; hence his short life span. Sleep well Wigwe! You made a choice and you were happy with it.

Be careful what u post on nairaland. U can be arrested

GanagiBitrus:

Your explanation points more to God as Sovereign, but not as a Loving Father. Thanks anyway.

Lol.
It's so funny that we humans see God as good only when the going is good.

When the ride was smooth for the deceased I am very sure everyone around him would be like God is partial to him.
When he was acquiring other banks, merging with others, conquering the continent, building the Wigwe University I guess God was a loving God then.

That same God that was loving to him that period he bought over intercontinental bank, how do you think the staff that lost their jobs in that merger and acquisition, how would they see God.

As sovereign or as loving or as an unfair God?

See life happens and it doesn't change the fact that God remains God despite whatever life throws at us.

Experiences differ.

At a time in my life, I was on a long loosing streak. Nothing I invested on worked. I always end up loosing..
To me, God was God still. Loving one at that.

Last year, I slumped twice and almost died due to low blood ish.
Neighbors thought I wouldn't make it back from the hospital those 2 different occasions.
God, this same God came through for me..

For me he remains the same God , the same sovereign and loving God. The same father and friend.
Both in Good time and in bad time.

Meanwhile some people also slumped but died straight up. How would their families see God?

He remains my Kabiyesi.
The one who through the breath of his mouth sustains ones life.
The one who through his mighty power delivers.
The one who through his loving kindness, overlooks our many sins.
The one who saves the sinner from sin, redeems him and makes use of him to conquer the nation.
I am sure to this sinner, that God is a loving God, isn't it?

God over all.

W0t0w0toman:


Be careful what u post on nairaland. U can be arrested

I dey Mars, come and arrest me.

Kukutenla:

That's what you think
You are thinking at your level

I swear u no fit smart like dis ajeh

theamazonguru:


Lol.
It's so funny that we humans see God as good only when the going is good.

When the ride was smooth for the deceased I am very sure everyone around him would be like God is partial to him.
When he was acquiring other banks, merging with others, conquering the continent, building the Wigwe University I guess God was a loving God then.

That same God that was loving to him that period he bought over intercontinental bank, how do you think the staff that lost their jobs in that merger and acquisition, how would they see God.

As sovereign or as loving or as an unfair God.

Seez life happens and it doesn't change the fact that God remains God despite whatever life throws at us.

Experiences differs.

At a time in my life, I was on a long loosing streak. Nothing I invented on worked. I always end up loosing..
To me, God was God still. Loving one at that.

Last year, at slumped twice and almost died due to low blood ish.
Neighbors thought I wouldn't make it back from the hospital those 2 different occasions.
God this same God came through for me..

For me he remains the same God , the same sovereign and loving God. The same father and friend.
Both in Good time and in bad time.

He remains my Kabiyesi.
The one who through the breath of his mouth sustains ones life.
The one who through his mighty power delivers.
The one who through his loving kindness, overlooks our many sins.
The one who saves the sinner from sin, redeems him and makes use of him to conquer the nation.
I am sure to this sinner, that God is a loving God, isn't it?

God over all.

Hmmm! Food for Thought. 🤔

PNomsule:

As u no fit spell correctly I no fit reply your question

You nothing but a werey in the eyes of God 🤣😂

Seunpapa65:

You nothing but a werey in the eyes of God 🤣😂

Nothing u want tell me, u still dey piss for bed ajeh 😆 😂 🤣

Calitoscassius:
Don't mind that one he is hallucinating.

I see

ednut1:
Bintin laye

walahi, binti ni

Creamypie:
A4re those remains? Or empty coffins. The chopper was burnt to ashes

I have also asked the same ⁉️ what did they put that coffin a burnt chopper. Imagine how wasteful people can be. Buying expensive coffin again when some people are hungry with flamboyant service is a sign that he was insensitive to the poor when he was a life. He made those from exploitative bank chargers, unclaimed dead people money left in the Bank, he has benefited so much from illegal sales of dollars, made money from the poor Masses then build a university that is not affordable by the poor, advertising on the CNN.

We4all:
Anu! During his induction into the society, his chicken didn't pick many guinea corn; hence his short life span. Sleep well Wigwe! You made a choice and you were happy with it.

That chicken thing can't give you a billion.

skj1377:


It's a kind of Ritual. The idea is money will be given to you but a chicken will be set free surrounded with pieces of corn. Each corn the chicken eats stands for 1yr extra of your life. I also think the powers can take extra members of your family when it's time to pay up depending on what you wanted

So his chicken picked 57 grains of guinea corn abi? One tradition even said that the chicken is normally starved for days before the day of initiation to enable it pick more grains when set free. Blackman mentality. Can you imagine such stupidity !!!

joefelin2345:
So his chicken picked 57 grains of guinea corn abi? One tradition even said that the chicken is normally starved for days before the day of initiation to enable it pick more grains when set free. Blackman mentality. Can you imagine such stupidity !!!

I said extra years. If he was already 37 probably the chicken only picked 20.

skj1377:


My neighbour did some kind of Ritual . He was a wealthy civil engineer. I was toasting his daughter so am familiar with the story. He was to giveup his first son . He refused so they killed him ,his wife and last baby boy in a singular motor accident.
Apparently they don't tell people consequences or the price of the so called wealth they give you.
My neighbour an upcoming miracle pastor had a disagreement with his mentor/ cult. He was killed with his first son but the wife survived the accident.
As you can see from my story it's not Bollywood or nollywood these are my neighbour in Lagos

But who told you the reason why those people were killed? Their cult members or who?

I think the ritual guys don't disclose the total payment due afterwards because from my observation the ritual usually takes more than two life's at a go.
No normal person will agree for such repayment terms

skj1377:


I said extra years. If he was already 37 probably the chicken only picked 20.

Ok then. I can now understand what you meant. But would the person could have died immediately should the chicken refused to pick any of the grain? Just asking pls.

Calitoscassius:
What do you mean? Do you know something we don't know? it is just a piece of cloth with access printed on it.

Oga you be small pikin o no matter your age. That man knows what he is talked ng about. I rest my case & I come in peace though.

joefelin2345:
Oga you be small pikin o no matter your age. That man knows what he is talked ng about. I rest my case & I come in peace though.

Rubbish, the man knows nothing and you know nothing yourself. You and him have no proofs to back up your ridiculous assumptions, you both are just imagining things in your heads and deluded.

Age has nothing to do with it, i am vastly kowledgeable more than you could ever dream of. Especially if you believe that their is more to piece of rag that has Access bank printed on it.

Please don't rest your case, explain what that man mean or what you mean and please provide some proofs.

You can come how you like, i am not bothered.

joefelin2345:
Ok then. I can now understand what you meant. But would the person could have died immediately should the chicken refused to pick any of the grain? Just asking pls.

I looks like sometimes they do it without your consent. I heard of a guy that the chicken did not pick anything and immediately he disagreed with the ritual but he died same year. At another incident the chicken picked only 2 and the man started going from church to church but still died second year. I guess because of past cases they tend not to allow the benefactor know his number.
I suspect once payment is due the forces can take the man and other family members together same instance .

joefelin2345:
But who told you the reason why those people were killed? Their cult members or who?

In the case of the civil engineer remember I was toasting his daughter so she was telling me stuff about her family. She said her younger brother ( first son) had a dream that some bad people wanted to take him away . He told his parents the story . The father assured the son that he will not allow anyone take him away. According to the daughter (girl I was toasting) strange things kept happening at night in the house. So on the faithful day he travelled with his wife and new born son to delta state . They had a fatal motor accident on the way. Both parents perished along with the new born baby. instantly my lady became an orphan and destiny changed . We lost touch as they locked the house from then till date.
In the case of the pastor, he travelled with his wife and according to the wife an eagle suddenly appeared on their windscreen and magically their BMW 7 series somersaulted killing him and his only son. On the day of his burial I attended , the head of his cult stood on his grave and in the presence of everyone present started vibrating and shouting " the power has come back to me".

So you can see this is not movies. Nairaland is good for sharing experiences .

4tomandchi:
Just try and make money before you die...

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