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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Oriental4: 6:36pm On Mar 18
Deadlytruth:

A high IQ people who vote for Shagari a barely educated Fulani man. The same high IQ people, at a moment as critical as independence, chose an alliance that would give power to the educationally most backward part of the country.
A high IQ people who voted for a barely educated Alhaji Bashir Tofa over Abiola a first class graduate of Accountancy from University of Glasgow Scotland in the 1993 election. A high IQ people who voted for Arthur Nzeribe twice into the Senate after the same Arthur Nzeribe helped the FG import weapons which were used to kill millions of them during the Biafra war. A high IQ people who were initially of the opinion that Peter Obi failed as governor in Anambra but suddenly began to bath him with accolades of performance when it began to appear that he was a serious contender for the post.
A high IQ people who have been voting to power as their own governors the likes of Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodore Orji, Ikpeazu (Mr. Kerosene), who all milked dry their state's purses , and worst of all whitewashed Peter Obi who invested state funds into his family business.
May God never give me that kind of IQ.

Google result is clear na so don't digress. Why do you think the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of Igbo country despite being the smartest African tribe?

Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 7:09pm On Mar 18
Deadlytruth:

Per the first bolded, Ironsi clinched power and all his decrees were centripetal, and the centripetal structure which he imposed on us has ended up killing innovative spirit, creating entitlement mentality, causing intellectual laziness, and killing human capital.

Per the second bolded, How come Igbos have not been able to use that their superior intelligence in beating the forces allegedly colluding to block them from power with an inferior intelligence?

I would answer you this way: The single most consistent test of IQ in Nigeria today is the standardized tests for university entrance and others like it in Nigeria. Why do Igbo states have higher cut-off marks than other non-Igbo states?
Answer this first.

You have no idea how much damage forced unity had done to the igbo in Nigeria.
Someone said earlier that Nigeria exists solely to stop Igbo from exercising FULL SELF DETERMINATION, hence self actualization - maximizing self expression (of intelligence).
Imagine a country that contains Israel, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon etc. And in that country, all that non-Israel nations (who obviously have more population when combined) obsess about is how to make sure that Israel never emerges, or Jews never fully express their God-given potential.
That is exactly what is happening to the Igbo in Nigeria.
For a very brief moment when Igbo enjoyed full sovereignty and autonomy, didn't you see what they produced?
In fact what they produced frightened some guys in Europe who said that they don't want "another Japan in Africa".
That is the point.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 7:18pm On Mar 18
Deadlytruth:

Per the first bolded, Ironsi clinched power and all his decrees were centripetal, and the centripetal structure which he imposed on us has ended up killing innovative spirit, creating entitlement mentality, causing intellectual laziness, and killing human capital.

Per the second bolded, How come Igbos have not been able to use that their superior intelligence in beating the forces allegedly colluding to block them from power with an inferior intelligence?

As for Ironsi, you people didn't even allow him to stay in office for more than 6 months.
Till today, only intellectually challenged people would believe the story being bandied about Ironsi.
It is like judging Enerst Shonekan. Ironsi and Shonekan are in the same class.
Give an Igbo man 4 years (never mind 8 years) and see whether he won't transform Nigeria beyond the usual black man's level.
I don't want to get into the Ironsi story because it is the usual strategy you people use to change the subject and derail threads like this one.
You can believe whatever you want about Ironsi, and I won't argue over it.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by babasolution: 7:21pm On Mar 18
onumadu:


I would answer you this way: The single most consistent test of IQ in Nigeria today is the standardized tests for university entrance and others like it in Nigeria. Why do Igbo states have higher cut-off marks than other non-Igbo states?
Answer this first.

You have no idea how much damage forced unity had done to the igbo in Nigeria.
Someone said earlier that Nigeria exists solely to stop Igbo from exercising FULL SELF DETERMINATION, hence self actualization - maximizing self expression (of intelligence).
Imagine a country that contains Israel, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon etc. And in that country, all that non-Israel nations (who obviously have more population when combined) obsess about is how to make sure that Israel never emerges, or Jews never fully express their God-given potential.
That is exactly what is happening to the Igbo in Nigeria.
For a very brief moment when Igbo enjoyed full sovereignty and autonomy, didn't you see what they produced?
In fact what they produced frightened some guys in Europe who they said that they don't want "another Japan in Africa".
That is the point.

Majority of Nigerians don't care about the Igbo and have never hindered the Igbo in any way,limit your labeling to the specific groups that are hindering the Igbo, am from a small minority tribe in kogi,we have never done anything against the Igbo, the Igbo have had it way better than us in Nigeria,we have never benefitted anything from NIG, all we have is through our tears ,sweat and blood,don't categorise us with people who you think are hindering your igbo

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 7:28pm On Mar 18
babasolution:


Majority of Nigerians don't care about the Igbo and have never hindered the Igbo in any way,limit your labeling to the specific groups that are hindering the Igbo, am from a small minority tribe in kogi,we have never done anything against the Igbo, the Igbo have had it way better than us in Nigeria,we have never benefitted anything from NIG, all we have is through our tears ,sweat and blood,don't categorise us with people who you think are hindering your igbo

I know.
And I would add that Igbo love and always want to align with "small minority tribes" in Nigeria if they are willing to align.
That is why we overwhelmingly supported Jonathan, (an Ogbia man).
To prove my point, Igbo would vote for you before voting for a far northerner in any presidential elections. FACT.
You just need to dress in ways that distinguish you from far northerners. grin
We know who has been marginalization us in Nigeria. We know them, trust me. cool
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by babasolution: 7:36pm On Mar 18
onumadu:


I know.
And I would add that Igbo love and always want to align with "small minority tribes" in Nigeria if they are willing to align.
That is why we overwhelmingly supported Jonathan, (an Ogbia man).
To prove my point, Igbo would vote for you before voting for a far northerner in any presidential elections. FACT.
You just need to dress in ways that distinguish you from far northerners. grin
We know who has been marginalization us in Nigeria. We know them, trust me. cool

My tribe as no relationship to any far northern tribe whatsoever,we don't speak Hausa or dress like one,neither do we look like them,you probably would not be able to even tell if am not even an Igbo if I tell you am one
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 7:47pm On Mar 18
babasolution:


My tribe as no relationship to any far northern tribe whatsoever,we don't speak Hausa or dress like one,neither do we look like them,you probably would not be able to even tell if am not even an Igbo if I tell you am one

The thing is that the people SERIOUSLY marginalizing the Igbo in Nigeria are not from the middle belt.
Even military leaders from the middle belt (like IBB) didn't marginalize the Igbo.
I will name names: Muhammadu Buhari is a typical element of the "school" of Igbo marginalizers in Nigeria.
Use him as a template to locate others.
The man was/is so anti-Igbo that he couldn't even allow himself to organize an election that an Igbo man was predicated t to win.
Every opinion poll before the elections pointed to an Obi victory, but Buhari and his cohorts rigged the election to prevent that.
This is a historical fact.
Like I said, we know who has been marginalizing us in Nigeria.
Maybe your people sef and Igbo are in the boat! cheesy
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by JagabanB: 11:04pm On Mar 18
Oriental4:


Awwwn... a pity you have no way of changing reality with talk....even Obasanjo, your tribesman concurred with Google. Let's even forget what the Europeans said and did. Anyway, the topic is about why the Igbos couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country despite being the most intelligent Afican tribe. What do you have to say about that? Any contribution since you claim not to be a low IQed African?
I am not a Yoruba, if u have high IQ u wóñ't assume everyone is a Yoruba.
The talk is on google because people actually seem to igñóre u foIks, we all know that u are not the most intelligent trîbè.
Intelligent only the internet.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 4:56am On Mar 19
onumadu:


As for Ironsi, you people didn't even allow him to stay in office for more than 6 months.
Till today, only intellectually challenged people would believe the story being bandied about Ironsi.
It is like judging Enerst Shonekan. Ironsi and Shonekan are in the same class.
Give an Igbo man 4 years (never mind 8 years) and see whether he won't transform Nigeria beyond the usual black man's level.
I don't want to get into the Ironsi story because it is the usual strategy you people use to change the subject and derail threads like this one.
You can believe whatever you want about Ironsi, and I won't argue over it.
How will you be able to get the Ironsi issue when you don't understand how important the adherence to the constitution is in genuine nation building. Ironsi tampered with a sovereign and truly people's constitution thus sparking off a constitutional crisis which consumed him and sparked off a war.
Comparing Ironsi with Shonekan is at best dubious because Shonekan was more of a figurehead civilian while Ironsi was a military despot who had raw power and authority in his hands.

Give Igbo man four years to transform Nigeria? How much have your Igbo governors been able to transform your SE Region beyond the usual black man's level for the 25 years they have ruled in the SE so far?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 5:43am On Mar 19
onumadu:


I would answer you this way: The single most consistent test of IQ in Nigeria today is the standardized tests for university entrance and others like it in Nigeria. Why do Igbo states have higher cut-off marks than other non-Igbo states?
Answer this first.

This propaganda has been peddled by you Igbos for long and have successfully used it to hoodwink the ignorant Nigerians into believing it is a policy deliberately targeted to pull Igbo race down when in actual fact it is a fall out of the failure of the governors of the Igbo states in educational development of their region.
Take a look at the content of the link below
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268440/number-of-primary-schools-in-nigeria-by-state/

You would observe that the SE states have the lowest state government owned primary and secondary schools in Nigeria relative to their population. This therefore causes a situation whereby most Igbo kids can't find admission placement in secondary schools in their home states and therefore have to burden the other regions and the FG unity schools more than every other region. This is the simple reason why the FG therefore jacks up the cut off mark for applicants from Igbo states. It is therefore more of a statement that governors of Igbo states have failed to build schools for to their people than the alleged deliberate ploy by the Nigerian system to hold down Igbos. It is a matter of simple Economic principle of price increase when demand outweighs supply.
I know you will not open the link hence I have attached the screenshots below. You can see states like Anambra, Abia, Ebonyi at the rock bottom of the table as against states like Lagos, Oyo and even some Northern states like Kaduna and Bauchi at the top spots.


onumadu:


You have no idea how much damage forced unity had done to the igbo in Nigeria.
Someone said earlier that Nigeria exists solely to stop Igbo from exercising FULL SELF DETERMINATION, hence self actualization - maximizing self expression (of intelligence).
Imagine a country that contains Israel, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon etc. And in that country, all that non-Israel nations (who obviously have more population when combined) obsess about is how to make sure that Israel never emerges, or Jews never fully express their God-given potential.
That is exactly what is happening to the Igbo in Nigeria.

Unfortunately for you, all records in the annals of history prove clearly the fact that the forced unity was the handiwork of Igbos who had assumed that Nigeria was their to dominate.
Remind me the tribe of Azikiwe who killed all motions for secession clause. Also remind me of the tribe of Aguiyi Ironsi who promulgated the Anti-secession Decree. Remind me of the tribe of Ojukwu who crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic quest.

onumadu:

For a very brief moment when Igbo enjoyed full sovereignty and autonomy, didn't you see what they produced?
In fact what they produced frightened some guys in Europe who said that they don't want "another Japan in Africa".
That is the point.


According to Abraham Lincoln, nearly every man has the capacity to withstand adversity, but if you want to know the weaknesses of a man, give him power '

The first part of this quote makes it clear that necessity is the mother of invention meaning that being inventive in a time of great need for survival is not really a mark of intelligence. In biology, we learned about the principle of adaptation which even lower and unintelligent animals practice to survive in times of existential threat and extremely harsh conditions.
The real test of Intelligence thus IQ is how inventive you are in a time of peace and comfort. This is what keeps America at the top of the world power table as America votes so much money for research and their scientists are always in the laboratory even in time of no visible external threat to their country.

Ever since after the war, what have Igbos ever been able to invent again?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 6:03am On Mar 19
Oriental4:


The election of 2023 is actually proof of the OP position that they're the most intelligent tribe in Africa. Imagine a people who saw through the Tinubu and Buhari incompetence. You rather owe Igbo an apology for low intelligence voting dragging them back. I can't laugh abeg...that you're even proud of voting Tinubu has evinced your low IQ, which is what the OP is about. So let's not derail rthe post. It's about Igbos inability to stop the colonialist unlike the Japanes. If you have a view on that please.

But at the same time those very people were routing for a man whom they themselves once described as a huge failure of governance in Anambra. So it wasn't about intelligence but about seeking their turn to rule Nigeria. And if anything, Obi's tenure as Anambra governor can't be compared with Tinubu's as Lagos governor.
Peter Obi invested Anambra funds to buy the shares of a brewery which thereafter plummeted in value and causing over 80% capital erosion while Tinubu at the same time invested Lagos funds in Airtel which thereafter recorded over 300% capital appreciation. It clear that the one who made a very bad investment decision is the less intelligent. Then Peter Obi gave out so many false and bogus statistics.
So we actually dodged a bullet.
And come to think about it, you don't even need to be an economist to know that Peter Obi's decision to invest public funds in brewery business is a very unintelligent decision. Here are the reasons:

1. Those who drink bear in any population are usually of a very small percentage in the range of 10 to 15% , and that even among the few who drink, only about one third of them are really able to afford it from their pockets hence they are always at the mercy of their fellow drinkers who are generous enough to buy for them. In essence therefore, beer manufacture does not really generate revenue from the larger population composed of women and children and those men who don't drink.
An intelligent governor should have rather invested in the manufacture of soft drinks and biscuits which are far cheaper than beer, are eaten by over 80% of the population, even children and babies can easily afford it from their own pockets thus a good revenue stream for government, lower cost of production than beer, etc.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 6:13am On Mar 19
JagabanB:

I am not a Yoruba, if u have high IQ u wóñ't assume everyone is a Yoruba.
The talk is on google because people actually seem to igñóre u foIks, we all know that u are not the most intelligent trîbè.
Intelligent only the internet.
To them, whoever takes exception to their lies must be a Yoruba person. Very paranoid set of people.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Christlike01: 6:29am On Mar 19
onumadu:


As for Ironsi, you people didn't even allow him to stay in office for more than 6 months.
Till today, only intellectually challenged people would believe the story being bandied about Ironsi.
It is like judging Enerst Shonekan. Ironsi and Shonekan are in the same class.
Give an Igbo man 4 years (never mind 8 years) and see whether he won't transform Nigeria beyond the usual black man's level.
I don't want to get into the Ironsi story because it is the usual strategy you people use to change the subject and derail threads like this one.
You can believe whatever you want about Ironsi, and I won't argue over it.

Lol! Just like your Governors have been able to transform your erosion ravaged land of primitive hinterland bushmen "beyond the usual black man's level",right ?

It is confirmed,you Igbo are suffering from narcissistic personality disorder! People who suffer that disease need to constantly bolster their self esteem through grandiose fantasy, exaggerated ambition,exhibitionism,feelings of importance and entitlement! What a Narcissist is actually trying to disguise or cover up with his fake sense of superiority is an inherent inferiority complex he suffers from! You igbos need to rise above this annoying level of crass primitiveness, it's appalling! From being "African Jews" to now,"African Japanese", it's quite shameful! You always see yourselves as some kind of very important people,yet your history is nothing to write home about,it is a sad story of slavery and primitive cannibalism! "African Jews" and "Japanese of Africa" with the "most intelligence " that couldn't build any enviable culture or civilisation that's worthy of being emulated or celebrated today! People whose ancestors were sold in droves into the slavery by all their neighbors - Ijaws,Itshekiri, Binis and Igalas,shior, intelligent my foot!

Even the Yoruba are not bragging or claiming to be the most intelligent Africans or whatever despite their unrivalled records of successes and achievements in every field of human endeavor. Isn't it quite funny that it is one primitive hinterland dwelling tribe ,who are never associated with any civilisation,that's claiming one non existent "most intelligent"?! Isn't it what is called grandiose delusions of the highest order ?! It is, certainly!

Lol! "Most Intelligent" cannibals of potopoto Republic, morons who are incapable of achieving anything enviable!
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 6:35am On Mar 19
Deadlytruth:


LOTS AND LOTS OF HOGWASH ...

The real test of Intelligence thus IQ is how inventive you are in a time of peace and comfort. This is what keeps America at the top of the world power table as America votes so much money for research and their scientists are always in the laboratory even in time of no visible external threat to their country.

Ever since after the war, what have Igbos ever been able to invent again?

The bolded is a total opposite of the true quote:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I add to it that the real test of intelligence is how inventive and resilient a person can be when he is under bombardment 24/7 and when he had no assurance of the next meal (because the enemy was violating all known and unknown laws of war and conventions).
Under such crucible, the Igbo-dominated nation shocked their enemies with many inventions.

You keep sidestepping the issue of autonomy, but I won't let you change the subject. ..

Why had there not been even a fully functioning international airport and seaports where goods and persons can go DIRECTLY NONSTOP to and from Igboland since the end of the war?
What are you people afraid of?
It is like tying your boxing opponent's hands and legs before declaring the fight on, and then you turn around to accuse him of claiming to be a better fighter after you've landed some blows on him.
Duh ... you tied his hands and feet first!
Untie him first, and then bring the fight on, and see if you won't be beaten to stupor. grin cool

Heck, you couldn't even conduct a simple presidential election which EVERY POLL predicted would be won by an Igbo man. You had to rig it.

Forget about the so called "unity schools"; what about JAMB and university entrance nko?
Shouldn't all Nigerians be tested purely based on intelligence? Why single out Igbo states to require higher cut-off marks?
Until you allow EVERY Nigerian to have the same cut off marks for university entrance, I will continue to say that Igbo are BY FAR more intelligent than others with lower cut-off marks.
And if you still doubt Igbo IQ superiority, give them independence and allow them to prove you right. QED.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by onumadu: 6:44am On Mar 19
And the other one calls himself "Christlike" but is actually DEVILlike with a totally twisted mindset.
Gat no time for his kind. cool
Moving on...
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 7:12am On Mar 19
onumadu:


The bolded is a total opposite of the true quote:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I add to it that the real test of intelligence is how inventive and resilient a person can be when he is under bombardment 24/7 and when he had no assurance of the next meal (because the enemy was violating all known and unknown laws of war and conventions).
Under such crucible, the Igbo-dominated nation shocked their enemies with many inventions.

You keep sidestepping the issue of autonomy, but I won't let you change the subject. ..

Why had there not been even a fully functioning international airport and seaports where goods and persons can go DIRECTLY NONSTOP to and from Igboland since the end of the war?
What are you people afraid of?
It is like tying your boxing opponent's hands and legs before declaring the fight on, and then you turn around to accuse him of claiming to be a better fighter after you've landed some blows on him.
Duh ... you tied his hands and feet first!
Untie him first, and then bring the fight on, and see if you won't be beaten to stupor. grin cool

Heck, you couldn't even conduct a simple presidential election which EVERY POLL predicted would be won by an Igbo man. You had to rig it.

Forget about the so called "unity schools"; what about JAMB and university entrance nko?
Shouldn't all Nigerians be tested purely based on intelligence? Why single out Igbo states to require higher cut-off marks?
Until you allow EVERY Nigerian to have the same cut off marks for university entrance, I will continue to say that Igbo are BY FAR more intelligent than others with lower cut-off marks.
And if you still doubt Igbo IQ superiority, give them independence and allow them to prove you right. QED.

Martin Luther King was a sociopolitical activist while intelligence is more of a biological trait hence a sociopolitical activist's view of a biological concept can't be valid. All biological principles show clearly that any living organism becomes relatively more inventive when faced with an existential threat, and the inventiveness naturally abates when that existential threat is removed. Therefore genuine inventiveness is a measure of intelligence in time of peace and safety when there is no compelling quest for survival.

The issue of autonomy you are harping on is actually against you because a people who genuinely believe that they would have excelled under autonomy would not have maintained a conspiratorial and criminal silence when all other regions were in the streets in demonstration against Ironsi's Unification Decree which was clearly going to kill autonomy. This is simple logic.

On the issue of seaport in Igbo land: does any Igbo State have access to the sea directly? If so, why couldn't Michael Okpara build one at that sea access point during the time you enjoyed the very autonomy you claim would have taken you to heaven on earth?

On the issue of presidential election; so the Igbo man would have won an election after openly calling it a religious war to the hearing of core Northern state voters who have the highest voter turn out and are passionately of a religious persuasion opposite that of the Igbo candidate who so declared?
If the Igbo man was going to win as you claim, then implicitly you are also claiming that majority of Nigerians masses loved him and actually vote for him. Is that not a self contradiction to your propaganda that other Nigerian ethnicities hate Igbos and deliberately don't want them to rule?

For JAMB and University entrance, you need to ask yourself whether state owned universities in the SE admit non-SEasterners as much as SEasterners are admitted into state owned universities outside their regions. Then per, federal government owned universities, the same explanation for unity schools holds. Most states in the SS and SW were ahead of Igbo states in founding their own universities.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 8:21am On Mar 19
Deadlytruth:


This propaganda has been peddled by you Igbos for long and have successfully used it to hoodwink the ignorant Nigerians into believing it is a policy deliberately targeted to pull Igbo race down when in actual fact it is a fall out of the failure of the governors of the Igbo states in educational development of their region.
Take a look at the content of the link below
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268440/number-of-primary-schools-in-nigeria-by-state/

You would observe that the SE states have the lowest state government owned primary and secondary schools in Nigeria relative to their population. This therefore causes a situation whereby most Igbo kids can't find admission placement in secondary schools in their home states and therefore have to burden the other regions and the FG unity schools more than every other region. This is the simple reason why the FG therefore jacks up the cut off mark for applicants from Igbo states. It is therefore more of a statement that governors of Igbo states have failed to build schools for to their people than the alleged deliberate ploy by the Nigerian system to hold down Igbos. It is a matter of simple Economic principle of price increase when demand outweighs supply.
I know you will not open the link hence I have attached the screenshots below. You can see states like Anambra, Abia, Ebonyi at the rock bottom of the table as against states like Lagos, Oyo and even some Northern states like Kaduna and Bauchi at the top spots.




Unfortunately for you, all records in the annals of history prove clearly the fact that the forced unity was the handiwork of Igbos who had assumed that Nigeria was their to dominate.
Remind me the tribe of Azikiwe who killed all motions for secession clause. Also remind me of the tribe of Aguiyi Ironsi who promulgated the Anti-secession Decree. Remind me of the tribe of Ojukwu who crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic quest.



According to Abraham Lincoln, nearly every man has the capacity to withstand adversity, but if you want to know the weaknesses of a man, give him power '

The first part of this quote makes it clear that necessity is the mother of invention meaning that being inventive in a time of great need for survival is not really a mark of intelligence. In biology, we learned about the principle of adaptation which even lower and unintelligent animals practice to survive in times of existential threat and extremely harsh conditions.
The real test of Intelligence thus IQ is how inventive you are in a time of peace and comfort. This is what keeps America at the top of the world power table as America votes so much money for research and their scientists are always in the laboratory even in time of no visible external threat to their country.

Ever since after the war, what have Igbos ever been able to invent again?

You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 8:54am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declared that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 8:55am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 8:57am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

I have addressed the issue of high cut off marks for Igbo states. Go and press your governors to build more schools for you and watch those cut off marks drop in the same manner the Naira drops against the Dollar.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 9:09am On Mar 19
Deadlytruth:


That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

You are jumping here and there.
1) why do Igbo children need to score 160 in an exam that other children from other tribes need to score as low as 6 to qualify if they're not deemed to be of superior intelligence even by your government?

2) Why do Igbo children lead in national exams that create level playing fields such as WAEC and JAMB? Even when they write these exams in non Igbo states?

3) Why would you be a prosecutor and judge in a case you have vested interest in as an African or even a Nigerian? Don't you think that nonAfricans such as Europeans and Americans are in the best position of objectivity to assess the most intelligent and smartest African tribe since it's obvious that as an African, emotions such as jealousy would play a role in making you distort the truth?

4) if the European countries and Americans who are obviously more advanced than you and whose schools teach you say Igbo are the most intelligent African tribe, what evidence can you provide to the contrary?

5) if you can answer any of these then I'd like you to tell us why you think that the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they're the most intelligent African tribe.
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 9:15am On Mar 19
babasolution:


Majority of Nigerians don't care about the Igbo and have never hindered the Igbo in any way,limit your labeling to the specific groups that are hindering the Igbo, am from a small minority tribe in kogi,we have never done anything against the Igbo, the Igbo have had it way better than us in Nigeria,we have never benefitted anything from NIG, all we have is through our tears ,sweat and blood,don't categorise us with people who you think are hindering your igbo
You just said the truth. I too am from a minority within a minority in Edo State. In my place no one cares about Igbo issue as long as they don't interfer with our local politics. In fact during the war, those Igbos living in my town were protected from the Nigerian forces when they came searching from house to house for Igbos to kill. Our people hid them in the attics of their houses for days and giving them food right there till those Nigerian soldiers were gone.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 9:29am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


You are jumping here and there.
1) why do Igbo children need to score 160 in an exam that other children from other tribes need to score as low as 6 to qualify if they're not deemed to be of superior intelligence even by your government?
You can keep pretending not to have seen the explanation. I can't help beyond that.

EbinPawaGovt:


2) Why do Igbo children lead in national exams that create level playing fields such as WAEC and JAMB? Even when they write these exams in non Igbo states?
The Mmesoma UTME scandal has long shattered that myth.

EbinPawaGovt:


3) Why would you be a prosecutor and judge in a case you have vested interest in as an African or even a Nigerian? Don't you think that nonAfricans such as Europeans and Americans are in the best position of objectivity to assess the most intelligent and smartest African tribe since it's obvious that as an African, emotions such as jealousy would play a role in making you distort the truth?
And you yourself have been hypocritically relying on JAMB data issued by that same Nigerian government as an evidence of that your Igbo intelligence. What an interesting irony! Is JAMB a European or an American Organization?
EbinPawaGovt:


4) if the European countries and Americans who are obviously more advanced than you and whose schools teach you say Igbo are the most intelligent African tribe, what evidence can you provide to the contrary?
That statistics is about the academic performances of blacks in the US alone.
Academic performance is not same as intelligence. Thank God you agree that Americans and Europeans are more intelligent than us. Now, most Americans who broke records in intelligence dropped out of school. E.g. Bill gates. Even in history, some of the greatest scientists couldn't afford education. So intelligence is different from academic performance.

EbinPawaGovt:

5) if you can answer any of these then I'd like you to tell us why you think that the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they're the most intelligent African tribe.

This alone is the greatest proof that the alleged intelligence is a phantom hence the explanation is yours to make.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by nisai: 11:04am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


This is why we complain about the intelligence of the average black man. The topic is about the Ibo and similitude to the Japanese. Nothing should bring in Yoruba dick measurements here. You'll understand the pathetically flawed mindset of most African tribes if you use foreign forums. If you have nothing to contribute to the discussion, keep off.
Igbo man, you aren't so bright. You created a thread stating Igbos are the most intelligent black people and you said you didn't mention Yoruba people. Are you dumb or what?

Why do you igbos like deceiving yourselves?

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 11:36am On Mar 19
nisai:
Igbo man, you aren't so bright. You created a thread stating Igbos are the most intelligent black people and you said you didn't mention Yoruba people. Are you dumb or what?

Why do you igbos like deceiving yourselves?

Point of correction. Google, the Europeans and Americans say so.
2) Hopefully, you may have an important view about why the Ibos couldn't stop the British despite being the most intelligent African tribe. Any contribution since folks like Deadlytruth have been running in circles saying nothing? As you can see,we have already proven that Igbo childresn are required to score up to 160 in unity exams or disunity exams while some of your tribes children qualify if they scire 6. A clear testimony that even your government deem Igbo the most intelligent tribe in the country. Igbo children also beat the rest of you silly in national exams with level playing fiels such as WAEC and JAMB. At least, these are facts we all are aware of (before they start rigging exams the way they rig election in the country).

So why couldn't the smartest African tribe stop the British from colonizing them?
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 11:48am On Mar 19
onumadu:


The bolded is a total opposite of the true quote:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I add to it that the real test of intelligence is how inventive and resilient a person can be when he is under bombardment 24/7 and when he had no assurance of the next meal (because the enemy was violating all known and unknown laws of war and conventions).
Under such crucible, the Igbo-dominated nation shocked their enemies with many inventions.

You keep sidestepping the issue of autonomy, but I won't let you change the subject. ..

Why had there not been even a fully functioning international airport and seaports where goods and persons can go DIRECTLY NONSTOP to and from Igboland since the end of the war?
What are you people afraid of?
It is like tying your boxing opponent's hands and legs before declaring the fight on, and then you turn around to accuse him of claiming to be a better fighter after you've landed some blows on him.
Duh ... you tied his hands and feet first!
Untie him first, and then bring the fight on, and see if you won't be beaten to stupor. grin cool

Heck, you couldn't even conduct a simple presidential election which EVERY POLL predicted would be won by an Igbo man. You had to rig it.

Forget about the so called "unity schools"; what about JAMB and university entrance nko?
Shouldn't all Nigerians be tested purely based on intelligence? Why single out Igbo states to require higher cut-off marks?
Until you allow EVERY Nigerian to have the same cut off marks for university entrance, I will continue to say that Igbo are BY FAR more intelligent than others with lower cut-off marks.
And if you still doubt Igbo IQ superiority, give them independence and allow them to prove you right. QED.

You hit the nail on the head at the bolded. The country is even suffering the southern minorities like Akwa Ibom, Delta, Rivers and Crossriver just because of the Igbo. The policy is to slow the Igbo down even if the minority tribes go down. Unfortunately, what they couln't slow down is the natural intelligence of the Ibos. That's why Igbo kids still dominate in examinations.
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by Deadlytruth(m): 11:53am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


Point of correction. Google, the Europeans and Americans say so.
2) Hopefully, you may have an important view about why the Ibos couldn't stop the British despite being the most intelligent African tribe. Any contribution since folks like Deadlytruth have been running in circles saying nothing? As you can see,we have already proven that Igbo childresn are required to score up to 160 in unity exams or disunity exams while some of your tribes children qualify if they scire 6. A clear testimony that even your government deem Igbo the most intelligent tribe in the country. Igbo children also beat the rest of you silly in national exams with level playing fiels such as WAEC and JAMB. At least, these are facts we all are aware of (before they start rigging exams the way they rig election in the country).

So why couldn't the smartest African tribe stop the British from colonizing them?

You keep repeating this 160 score thing without being able to bring up any superior facts or logic than the explanation already given. How could a supposedly intelligent people have the least number of schools per population? Tell your governors to build you more public schools in your state and watch those cut off marks reduce. It should actually be a thing of shame that Northern states like Kaduna, Bauchi, Katsina each have up to 3,000 state government owned schools while states like Abia, Anambra and Ebonyi have less than 1,500 each.
You folks have for years been accusing Britain and the US of falsifying records against Igbo in Nigeria in the quest to help Fulanis dominate. But now, you are stuck to a statistics from the same colonial overlords because it seems to favor your sentiments. The day these same people will make an amendment to that claim is the same day we will begin to hear again how they cook up data to perpetuate Fulani hegemony in Nigeria.

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by nisai: 11:55am On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


Point of correction. Google, the Europeans and Americans say so.
2) Hopefully, you may have an important view about why the Ibos couldn't stop the British despite being the most intelligent African tribe. Any contribution since folks like Deadlytruth have been running in circles saying nothing? As you can see,we have already proven that Igbo childresn are required to score up to 160 in unity exams or disunity exams while some of your tribes children qualify if they scire 6. A clear testimony that even your government deem Igbo the most intelligent tribe in the country. Igbo children also beat the rest of you silly in national exams with level playing fiels such as WAEC and JAMB. At least, these are facts we all are aware of (before they start rigging exams the way they rig election in the country).

So why couldn't the smartest African tribe stop the British from colonizing them?
keep typing the same epistle like a loose machine. Deadlytruth and others have educated you enough. There's no changing potential in you. You just want this to be the truth so bad but unfortunately, reality differs.

Creating a thread and using another moniker to defend. Chronic inferiority complex 😂😂

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Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 12:10pm On Mar 19
nisai:
keep typing the same epistle like a loose machine. Deadlytruth and others have educated you enough. There's no changing potential in you. You just want this to be the truth so bad but unfortunately, reality differs.

Creating a thread and using another moniker to defend. Chronic inferiority complex 😂😂

Nothing to contribute... so shift. We need people with the intelligence to contribute.
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by nisai: 12:13pm On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


Nothing to contribute... so shift. We need people with the intelligence to contribute.
E pain am.😂 Abi you need igbos like you with inferiority complex to help massage your empty ego.😂
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by EbinPawaGovt: 12:46pm On Mar 19
nisai:
E pain am.😂 Abi you need igbos like you with inferiority complex to help massage your empty ego.😂

No my friend. I'm actually having a good time and you cannot possibly derail the thread since you're too late and we've already gained valuable insights. In fact, I need low IQed personalities like you to keep bumping the thread for better awareness and possible reasonable answers. So why do you think that the most intelligent African tribe, the Igbo, couldn't stop the Britiah, considering that they're best positioned to do so? I'm sure the question is way beyond your league. So go play outside.
Re: Ibos Have No Right To Claim They Are The Japan Of Africa by nisai: 1:05pm On Mar 19
EbinPawaGovt:


No my friend. I'm actually having a good time and you cannot possibly derail the thread since you're too late and we've already gained valuable insights. In fact, I need low IQed personalities like you to keep bumping the thread for better awareness and possible reasonable answers. So why do you think that the most intelligent African tribe, the Igbo, couldn't stop the Britiah, considering that they're best positioned to do so? I'm sure the question is way beyond your league. So go play outside.
As per japan or jew of Africa abi😂😂😂 Clown😂

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