Ever8090:
the kids ought to listen to the word of God at this age, during our time and still now in africa, kids cry in church and at the same time, the once not crying at the time listen to the word of God. Mother's in Africa knows how to pamper a child to be silent when they start crying, so the reason you gave is invalid, let's call a spade the spade ..

KnownUnknown:


Good way to continue the creation of morons.

armadeo:



Harry Potter was written for that age group. When should the child read it, at university ?

seunayantokun:
I know this is for church minsters primarily but it is a blessing to all serious Christian parents. Young Christian children can also learn from it. God bless the writer and op who posted it here.

fa636:


Thank you for the reasonable submission above.

I haven’t posted on Nairaland for years now, but felt the need to do so for this topic.

Anyone who has an autistic child that is triggered by loud sounds that lead to dysregulation of the child would’ve done the same thing. It’s a coping mechanism from what years of research has shown in the abroad.

Taking positions of this as an example of bad parenting (let’s be honest that’s what is being suggested here) is rather ill-informed and dangerous.

I implore us to be more widely read and expand our minds. The more we do that, the better our understanding of things around us.

Happy learning!

rexbuton:
I attended two different church programmes this month and I noticed some trends that got me worried, so I thought i should share and offer some counselling too.

1. African women not knowing what to do with children in church. As soon as the service started, the woman in front of me brought out two large ear muffs for both of her children, blocked their ears while she began praising God. They weren’t sat close to a sound speaker. Other women in the congregation came with kids tablets, and you could see how engaged these kids were with their tablets. How do you expect these children to develop faith in God if they cannot hear the word?

(Rom10.17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.)

(2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby

(2Tim 3.15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.)

The above three scriptures explain in detail how the word of God is necessary for growth, faith development and for wisdom. Christianity is not like chemistry where you mix acid and base to get salt and water, in this kingdom, the unseen controls the seen, and faith is the currency.

Our generation was fortunate; we did bible knowledge in primary and secondary school, our parents dragged us along to church revivals, even if we slept through it, the spoken word permeated us and was registered in our subconscious. Today’s generation in the western world do not have that privilege, instead they have tiktok, YouTube and Snapchat. And woe betide anyone who believes what they say about their societies being secular. There is nothing called secularism or atheism in the spirit, ‘’he who is not for us, is against us’’.

I have a teenager who works with me once a week, he’s in college, and he casually mentioned to me that they had to read Harry Potter in Secondary school Year 7! Little wonder young people overseas are increasing dabbling in occultism and paganism. Schools have a subject called Religious Education whose content varies depending on the country and county where you are. In most cases, there is no time or space for bible reading, but there’s enough time for gender ideology, sexual perversion normalisation , and other satanic nonsense

What can be done differently?
Parents must recognise that children must be exposed to God at a tender age, just as Hannah took Samuel to the Lord after she weaned him. We must recognise that school teachers would not do the job as in the times past, thus we must double our efforts in prayer and word study.

I can remember as a child, church was not the most interesting place to be, but how was my attention held?

1. Bible quizzes. Then we didn’t have the internet, so questions required tough bible study, and as I grew older, I learnt to use a concordance.

2. Sword drills. These were interesting events where you had to open your physical bible to a particular scripture as quickly as possible. Thus, most children knew where particular bible books were precisely.

3. Choir and drama events. In one Sunday every month, the kids choir would have a performance at the main church, during regular service, and as they got older, they could commandeer praise and worship even with their own instrumentalists.

4. Kids retreats. Usually once a year, 3-day retreats away from home, for word study, prayer, and fun games. Parents didn’t have to worry about their child’s nut and pollen allergy, because they were in God’s hands.

In conclusion, pastors and church leadership must concentrate on integrating children into the church. In today’s world, they grow up so quickly, we can’t risk having them fall to the wayside. Pastors ought to take personal interest in children’s development, guide them, pray for them, anoint them, recognise those that appear to have fallen into bad company, and create a specialized development plan, just to keep them engaged .
God bless you.

rexbuton:
I attended two different church programmes this month and I noticed some trends that got me worried, so I thought i should share and offer some counselling too.

1. African women not knowing what to do with children in church. As soon as the service started, the woman in front of me brought out two large ear muffs for both of her children, blocked their ears while she began praising God. They weren’t sat close to a sound speaker. Other women in the congregation came with kids tablets, and you could see how engaged these kids were with their tablets. How do you expect these children to develop faith in God if they cannot hear the word?

(Rom10.17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.)

(2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby

(2Tim 3.15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.)

The above three scriptures explain in detail how the word of God is necessary for growth, faith development and for wisdom. Christianity is not like chemistry where you mix acid and base to get salt and water, in this kingdom, the unseen controls the seen, and faith is the currency.

Our generation was fortunate; we did bible knowledge in primary and secondary school, our parents dragged us along to church revivals, even if we slept through it, the spoken word permeated us and was registered in our subconscious. Today’s generation in the western world do not have that privilege, instead they have tiktok, YouTube and Snapchat. And woe betide anyone who believes what they say about their societies being secular. There is nothing called secularism or atheism in the spirit, ‘’he who is not for us, is against us’’.

I have a teenager who works with me once a week, he’s in college, and he casually mentioned to me that they had to read Harry Potter in Secondary school Year 7! Little wonder young people overseas are increasing dabbling in occultism and paganism. Schools have a subject called Religious Education whose content varies depending on the country and county where you are. In most cases, there is no time or space for bible reading, but there’s enough time for gender ideology, sexual perversion normalisation , and other satanic nonsense

What can be done differently?
Parents must recognise that children must be exposed to God at a tender age, just as Hannah took Samuel to the Lord after she weaned him. We must recognise that school teachers would not do the job as in the times past, thus we must double our efforts in prayer and word study.

I can remember as a child, church was not the most interesting place to be, but how was my attention held?

1. Bible quizzes. Then we didn’t have the internet, so questions required tough bible study, and as I grew older, I learnt to use a concordance.

2. Sword drills. These were interesting events where you had to open your physical bible to a particular scripture as quickly as possible. Thus, most children knew where particular bible books were precisely.

3. Choir and drama events. In one Sunday every month, the kids choir would have a performance at the main church, during regular service, and as they got older, they could commandeer praise and worship even with their own instrumentalists.

4. Kids retreats. Usually once a year, 3-day retreats away from home, for word study, prayer, and fun games. Parents didn’t have to worry about their child’s nut and pollen allergy, because they were in God’s hands.

In conclusion, pastors and church leadership must concentrate on integrating children into the church. In today’s world, they grow up so quickly, we can’t risk having them fall to the wayside. Pastors ought to take personal interest in children’s development, guide them, pray for them, anoint them, recognise those that appear to have fallen into bad company, and create a specialized development plan, just to keep them engaged .
God bless you.

Adonko:
if you have nothing to say pls keep shut...he is trying to talk about the rot in the society and possible solution. Who says you can't know more than your master/teacher..syllabus are updated everyday...as well as curriculum changes and also and student can choose to dive deeper In research than his master.

In this context ....these foreigner's don't know ..most don't know how to bring up children..both God fearing and morally.

Vulcan24:


U av no idea! U think the whites never had their foundation in religious knowledge and church upbringing!

Your comments shows you skipped real knowledge to scrap the surface. We were brought up with all what the author writes and same with our parents who founded Christianity in ijebu land !

Look at our strides and compare it to your woke belief in putting vague knowledge first without first learning about God!

YourGFsnatcher:
Nigerians will always lose their values faster than speed of light in new environments that's doing better than theirs

MySolace:

Wot vague knowledge are u talking about? Plz dont mistake or mix spiriuality wit morality, deyre different.

I said and reitrate, african parents should "step down" on religion and focus on bringing up problem solving individuals. Unreligious people are even more useful to mankind than the socalled religious ones.

I acknowledge ur type already. Those would see my take as attacking d body of christ, so i understand.

AbuTwins:


You mean your God ran away from home without permission? That's not nice as a good kid!

No wonder not much of his kid life was included in the Bible!

So how did Jesus advice you to train kids in church?

CountinBlessins:


Why not mind your business?

JASONjnr:


Fool .... How will you spoil my mood physically when you can't even type like a reasonable person....

The attention I am giving is worth a fortune in your entire existence.

Paul was a murderer.... He was assigned to kill followers of Christ. He was an executioner.

I won't refer you to the Bible.

I understand that you're an atheist and a very stupid one at that.

AbuTwins:
During Jesus's time what provisions did he make for kids in church?

None!

Did he even attend anything church on Saturdays or Sundays?

Paul and Pastors will have to fill in the gaps that Jesus left!

It is clear that you are either ignorant of the scriptures or you just chose to deliberately mislead others. Like 18:15-16 says: And they brought unto him also infants, that he would touch them: but when his disciples saw it, they rebuked them.
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.

Anyways, we hope those kids won't join the next generation of LGBTQ+ Christians abroad!

youngsahito:
is this really coming from an adult? I can imagine how lack of home training has turned u into a nonet*ity. "This mind your business" statement has made people to care less about what is happening around them.
I believe that you would be wise enough to retract your gullible statement.

MySolace:

Wot vague knowledge are u talking about? Plz dont mistake or mix spiriuality wit morality, deyre different.

I said and reitrate, african parents should "step down" on religion and focus on bringing up problem solving individuals. Unreligious people are even more useful to mankind than the socalled religious ones.

I acknowledge ur type already. Those would see my take as attacking d body of christ, so i understand.

Dancebreaker:


Even our pagan great grandparents had far more humanity, creativity and integrity than the religious zealots of nowadays. Which church taught Berners-Lee, Zuckerberg, Jobs, Gates and others to create the tech we all enjoy today?

Jokerman:
Not only on diaspora.

It happening even here in this country.

Children don't do bible study no more. No more sword drills, bible quizzes etc....

Parents always praying for blessings and blessings, while ignoring children growing up in the Lord

BigIyanga:

Kids in abroad dont need church to function and succeed.
No prayers needed to pass school cert exams
No prayers needed to get admission,
No prayers needed to get jobs… cos companies recruit young talents from unis.
No prayers needed to get paid cos it’s against the law to owe wages/salaries.
No prayers needed for banks and ATMs to pay you.. your money because.. Banks dont fold, dont run out of cash,. ATM s dont go out of cash and network.


What you may not know is this: there are this kind of people called Intercessors. Some of them, their job description is just to pray for children, teenagers ,students, workers, families, etc all over the world. And they don't need to know the people they are praying for. Mind you, God Almighty is their Employer and He knows how to reward them. The answer to their prayers are those results you are seeing. That is why God don't coerce men to serve Him, cos He still knows how to get things done in His own way, since He's not a man. Shalom.

sunsweet33:


Those ear defenders are designed for neurodivergent children who become distressed when overstimulated with noise, the lady was only trying to manage her family but you brought it here to make a mockery which is exactly what repels people from coming to church.

Adonko:

In this context ....these foreigner's don't know ..most don't know how to bring up children..both God fearing and morally.

plaetton:

How many generations have grown in your so-called Lord ? What positive legacies have these tokunbo religions left in Africa?
Despite being the most religious and the most bible thumping and prayerful people in the world, today, Nigeria is one of the worst hellholes on earth ?
What gives ?
" The pre-eminence of any system ,religion or philosophy is to be measured in the quality of its output ".
To that end ,the quality of our national output after 64yrs of independence says a great deal about our minds and adopted religious philosophies that occupy those minds.
They are all cow dung.

AbuTwins:
During Jesus's time what provisions did he make for kids in church?

None!

Did he even attend anything church on Saturdays or Sundays?

Paul and Pastors will have to fill in the gaps that Jesus left!

Anyways, we hope those kids won't join the next generation of LGBTQ+ Christians abroad!