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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 10:48pm On Dec 17, 2023 |
Jodera:Now that Man City are wobbling, we really need to beat Liverpool and create breathing space. 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:58pm On Dec 17, 2023 |
Shegzdave: Somehow, it's looking like MA is cool with it until 70th min when Nketiah brings inbox presence. Let's see what January offers. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 11:59pm On Dec 17, 2023 |
toluxe0075: Even the goal, he was far from the spot a 9 should be contesting from. I loved his counter attacking play overall sha. Esp that flip on Dunk. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by daveP(m): 12:00am On Dec 18, 2023 |
mostob:Yeah. Osimhen will be free at most by February. Meaning no major intro till early march if na him they wan buy. So it will be a summer move. The new deal signals it in a way sha. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 7:42am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Bench martinelli for trossard Replace Kai with partey so that when zinny go astray partey will cover for him LFC fullbacks won't overlap too much because of our wingers We must take our chances, arteta beg your boys to take chances(martinelli the culprit) And we have a game at anfield |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:50am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Spy360:They're not playing in the same position na. And presently, he has no competition in his position no thanks to injuries. Glad he's picking up form and consistency. Make him pick am well and I go become him Stan. If I can become Ramsey and Xhaka Stan, wetin come be Havertz |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:52am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Spy360:This... I just hope makes up proud next week and create that space at the top |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:54am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:09am On Dec 18, 2023 |
daveP:The perfect MA striker Na person like Kane. Someone who will come deep to interplay and still be active in the box. No matter how we need that Pure 9, you'll find out that Arteta doesn't needs it— at least according to the way he wants his team to play. Even with all Nketiah presence in the box, watch him, you'll still find out he comes deep, though not like Jesus(and that's partly to the reason it's not his style of play). 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkforyou(m): 9:47am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Hello Roland17 a penny for your thoughts? About Arteta's man management, what is your specific line of argument? Is it that he is not developing youngsters well enough i.e bringing out their potential? or he isn't rotating the team well enough to give space for rest for other first team players. My own opinion is that, he needs to do better with giving first team players rest, he needs to rotate the squad better so as to avoid, burnout, mental block or injury. On the aspect of mental block, I think that is what is affecting Martinelli-that final output. Otherwise, I think he was impressive yesterday IMO, he was causing defenders problem, but you see that "what to do with the ball in the end" that is where he is frustrating to watch. Saka has a better chance conversion than him, but I digress On the aspects of Arteta's player management, I am trying to see things from his perspective in the sense that, he thinks he is under pressure to win all games and as such he doesn't want to take chances by fielding in so much youngsters. There was a time I was furious with Wenger for always featuring youngsters in such a way that we were constantly bullied by the likes of Sheffield and Stoke city. However, if it is in the aspects of bringing out the potentials in a player, is it to early to commend Arteta for that? seeing that he was able to turn things around with Xhaka and about to do the same with Kai and Jorginho. In essence, all am saying is that, maybe he has the ability to develop potential but he thinks now is not the right time, as he needs to deliver. But on the aspects of Squad rotation I totally agree because asides Saka, Gabriel is another player that featured in almost all our matches. Those guys need rest so as to be available during the final stages where teams like Man City would be in mad form. Arteta needs to know that the league is won between March and April and we need all our squad to be fully fit by then. What say you? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 9:50am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Jodera: Jesus is the kind of striker that understands the pattern and plays the way Arteta likes to set up his team. Areta didn't set up his team to have his Number 9 scoring 25 goals per season. The fans hoping to always see Jesus in the box having 10 shots per game need to cut down on their expectations. When opposition defenders form wall of Jericho in front of their keeper, Jesus is always ready to take them on, draw players to himself and free up space for other attackers to have a chance at goal. I think it was agsinst PSV or Lens when Jesus did a crazy skillful turn to take out two players and set up our goal. He did something similar yesterday and turned either Veltman or Dunk inside out. If we take such chances, it will always make the difference. I read somewhere that Nketiah may be planning to leave. If he leaves, we should get a striker like Toney or Osimehn . Also it's concerning that Arteta has not been able to transition any young striker we can even suggest to be promoted as our third striker; at least a youngster who grew through the ranks would not be complaining of game time when Jesus & Toney/Osimehn gets most of the playing time upfront. Never mind; Harry Kane is out of our reach. Watkins is another player that will fit in perfectly well into this team; I can bet my life Good Ebening will reason if Aston Villa do mistake sell Watkins to Arsenal even for 150m |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 10:24am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Fkforyou: I am one of those that supported and even commended Arteta for our second place finish last year. I chose to see the progress we made from a team losing scandalously against most big teams to almost running away with the league within a one-year period. I believe we were ill-prepared for the title race last year , hence we faltered when it mattered most (which I do not really see the reason to blame Arteta for cos there was nothing he could've done to keep Saliba injury free nor prevent some of senior players like Partey, Saka and the likes from making game-costing mistake) That being said, the bold is where our problem lies this season and if Arteta does not show he has learnt his lesson, we may still suffer similar fate as season. If Arteta does not learn to use fringe players in dead rubber matches, he will lose key players to avoidable injuries or fatigue which may come back to bite us when we need those players more. He needs to stop the nonsense he tried in that PSV match and manage his thin squad's fitness. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkforyou(m): 11:36am On Dec 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: Exactly, and which begs the question of, what is the use of keeping a lot of Fringe players without using them when it matters and doing so adequately? Come to think of it? non of our fringe player have played a complete match this season (correct me if am wrong). My point is knowing when to have all your players fit is the difference between success and failure in EPL. Honestly I will be so mad if we don't capitalize on Man Citys dwindling form this season, at lease lets give them a lot gap pending when they pick form towards the later stage of EPL. I genuinely hope he gets this sort out because the season is still long..o On a side note, bloated squad does not mean squad depth, players like Cedric to me are just occupying space, let them leave so that we can replace him with one of our academy player that will understudy Tomiyasu and Benny blanco, same can be applied will elneny. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:53am On Dec 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: The reason why I use Kane is that he's the only person who can do what Jesus does (aside his excessive work rate sha) and still give you that 25goals. Tbh, the only thing Jesus is missing is just clinicality. I've been vocal about this since last season. Else he's very perfect for our setup. Almost everyone will say we need that 9 that will be in the box to score goals, we need that 9 that will not come to the middle and all that. But my question always is that, is that the kinda 9 Arteta wants for his system? I know Arteta wants his team goals to be shared amongst all his attackers including wingers and Midfielders and not only the striker(s). And if you look at our team, you'll find out we're one of the top scoring sides in the league yet I doubt any of our players is in top 6 goalscorers this season. In fact, there's a stat that says Arsenal is the 1st team in the history of EPL to have 14 (abi 11) different goalscorers consecutively. That's very impressive if you ask me I'm not against us buying Osimhen or Toney for option B(I know we can never get Kane ) or even Watkins whom I believe will fit into our system. My own issues is that Arteta, I believe, is setting this team up to creates good goalscoring chances and anybody such chances falls on should be able to convert it. That's why I get angry when arsenal miss chances upon chances. Also, the issue about Arteta not progressing any youth so far is concerning. But I never really talk about that one yet. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 11:53am On Dec 18, 2023 |
Fkforyou:I also don't fancy bloated squad, it usually leaves the coach with headache trying to give almost everybody a chance. That's why I believe a club like arsenal that uses 1 striker needs 2 senior striker and 1 academy player that gets regular feature in cup matches making it easier for him to step up when fatigue or injury requires. I believe city is the biggest threat we have in this title race, but I won't rule loserpool out at all considering how their new signings have given their team a breath of fresh air. Maybe if players like Sobozlsai, Endo and Luis Diaz get injured or out on long suspension I will reason them less. We really need to watch for them as well. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 12:06pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
Jodera:What happened to “Enjoy the Moment” |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:12pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
Jodera: I guess all players (most especially the midfielders and attackers) need to do more shooting practise in training going forward since the ideal Arteta team anybody can score. Odegaard missed chances upon chances in that villa match ehn.... I hope Timber comes back early o, Ben white has not been at his best of late sha |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:16pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
Shegzdave:Lol... I'm enjoying the moment oo, but not with full chest See Liverpool wey dey first last week don enter 3rd(not even 2nd sef) just because dey drew Omorr, that top is very slippery at the moment |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:27pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: Yeah, I believe they are. Partey increased his shot accuracy here last season, Odegaard that we all thought wasn't a goalscoring Midfielder have started scoring and even Saka and Martinelli have improved on their scoring too. So yeah. Was really mad that day when Odegaard was just missing chances against Aston Villa and it cost us dearly(with Martinelli miss too). Same thing he did ystdy(same with Martinelli) but thankfully Jesus and Havertz spared their blushes. We just need to be converting chances. I hate good chances been missed by any attackers (be it Midfielders or forwarders). As for White, I don dey fear am. He's no more as sharp as he was once since Tomiyasu injury. Brighton just dey target am ystdy and it's not as if Mitoma was really in the mood sef I just hope Timber do come sha. Na second half of season go really help us if our depths comes back from injury the way we're projecting (ESR, timber and Partey) |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:27pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
We got porto Tricky but very possible |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:35pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:Na wa ooo Why we go get Porto of all the whole cheap clubs. Anyways sha, we suppose try win them |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:37pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
iamoyindamola: Good! We no get choice but to beat them. If we can't qualify against Porto, then we don't have any business playing UCL. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:38pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
But How the hell is Man City always getting the cheapest teams in round of 16. Every year? How?? |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 12:43pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
Jodera: Just imagine say Coppenhagen bundles city out . Just Imagine ! |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 12:44pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:. Very possible if we do not have injury |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Kbs468(m): 12:45pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:We supposed to eliminate FC Porto though as far as if and when we do not lose the first away leg |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 12:49pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick: It'll be sweet sha but mehhhnnnn,... Almost impossible to imagine |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Lush100(m): 12:51pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
iamoyindamola:. The strength of Liverpool is there fullback. Martinelli has to start. Your see they will need to players each to keep Saka and Martinelli (Note Saka has not been playing very well except yesterday). Bloop moved ATE to midfield but he operates the same way as full back (wing back). If Martinelli can get to act. AAT will have to help in that right side. The problem really is Zinch. And Toni is not available. Another Problem is white. All of a sudden he is lacking confidence. It means Harvetz has to start . I don't know who will help white. White and Zinny is making Rice to work so.hard. That guy is a baller |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:01pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
Jodera: BlueRayDick: Lush100: Kbs468:They are fast and can play long range shots The advantage is thee will be plenty counter attacks against old man pepe |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:03pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
Lush100: U are right, If Rice burns out early they should arrest white and Zinchencko as main culprit. They make Rice's job extra stressful with the way both of them usually lose concentration in the middle of the the game. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 1:06pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:That is why partey must start ahead of kaikai Saka and odegaard can help out white but you see that sallah You saw his last burst of speed which led to dalot red, i was just shouting ema je ko lo oo, e pa sibe |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 1:13pm On Dec 18, 2023 |
iamoyindamola: Funny enough, Havertz always mark, its just that he can give out fouls in dangerous areas with that his long leg that is always outsretched. If partey must play, then Rice needs to be allowed to play advance role thereby leaving Partey to do most of the defensive work . I don't know if Partey is fully fit to burst a lung doing that for at least 70 minutes. |
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