mostob:
Thomas Partey excused by Ghana for Afcon.

I want to believe this is a tactic by arsenal sha but that doesn't matter right now. He should get back on the field and do the job they are paying him to do.

Chasicolis:
You said it all.
Odegard is too rigid and has phobia operating from the centre nor the other flank. Always crowding or be hiding in the right with Saka.
I'm shocked that ARTETA didn't learn anything from his errors last season.
One, he shouldn't have signed Havertz
Either he signed a proper 9 that could have rivaled Jesus and sit him down or a proper attacking midfielder to compete with odegard.
Secondly, a top winger on the right to do so to Saka(he's nonchalant these days because of no threat).
3rdly, Had he signed a top striker, Jesus and Martinelli will drag the left flank bringing a serious competition which Trossard didn't put up much.
4th, give Trossard a quite number of start-ups on the left wing to test waters between Nelli and him.

5. Knowing Partey and injury crisis, should have kept xhaka for at least one more year even if it means doing away with Jorginho. That could have freed RICE a bit as the partnership of rice, xhaka and odegard would have been deadlier than what trossard and havertz have offered while playing similar role.

6. Odegard flatter to deceive, ignore his stats, they are just their for padding. Any game the wingers failed to operate, he looks like a worn out player. He can't dictate the flow of the game from the middle or left flank nor give killer and defence splitting passes regularly.

7. With Jesus, Arsenal isn't winning anything anytime anywhere. He's not a deadly striker. He's more Julain Alvarez.. Alvarez succeeds with Argentina because of the threat Messi and Di maria possess and bring. At City, Haaland and De bruyne like Messi takes the pressure off him and that creates room for him to shine mostly in big matches as seen last season. If you clearly watch most of the games without De bruyne nor Haaland, he also struggle to impact the games but running round the whole pitch to make touches to show his influence even as being the only striker up. Folden or Benardo also take pressure of the attack off him too.
Put Alvarez in Arsenal and see him exposed or in Argentina without Messi and watch.
There's a reason city struggled in champions league with Jesus as point man because he leaves the main work like Alvarez to roam the field.

daveP:
Wait one, you guys on here with this constant "mention somebody better" thing, why do i find it very odd, especially when viewed from the lens of inference?? It is hilarious o. There's always going to be someone better. And then again, there's always going to be averages that click in teams that makes one forget they were ever average. These things are not too direct now.


For now, all our Forwards need competition. If this is how we play, UCL football go do us wiunnnnn for ear.

The 2nd problem is Arteta refusing to just give minutes to players. In a way, Tierney, though, injury prone, was a good one.

Make we sha see 5buys this January.

We also need Arteta to find ways to end this direct approach thing. It is very annoying.

Jodera:

This is good news.

Hopefully, he stays fit in Jan

Jodera:
So who come be the "Us" wey you dey refer for Man u thread?

mostob:
It is an open discussion. Suggesting players that would add quality to the team should be seen as an agenda

Jodera:

Lmaooo....
Statistics been no tell you say e no been dey work during West Ham loss when you pin am ontop Havertz absence?

mostob:
He should stay fit from January till June abeg.

Ray07:
that was before before. I done fully port this year to Girona.

We're winning the league

daveP:
Wait one, you guys on here with this constant "mention somebody better" thing, why do i find it very odd, especially when viewed from the lens of inference?? It is hilarious o. There's always going to be someone better. And then again, there's always going to be averages that click in teams that makes one forget they were ever average. These things are not too direct now.


For now, all our Forwards need competition. If this is how we play, UCL football go do us wiunnnnn for ear.

The 2nd problem is Arteta refusing to just give minutes to players. In a way, Tierney, though, injury prone, was a good one.

Make we sha see 5buys this January.

We also need Arteta to find ways to end this direct approach thing. It is very annoying.

Spy360:

I expected that given a low block Arteta would send Havertz into the forward position as aerial threat.

Let me use this post to state that statistics are recommended evidence and should be respected. But as Davep said, they are indicative but not conclusive which I agreed.

You see, me saying Giroud is on par with RvP is based on stats which is true. However, everyone of us who watched Arsenal knows that RvP is a far superior player/goal scorer.

That said, my grouse with you is when you make unguarded statements probably due to arrogance like saying Giroud is very very average. Which we have seen that it isn't true because it is not backed with facts.

You can say you prefer RVP or you can say RVP is better than Giroud. But don't say Giroud is very average just to push an agenda.

Spy360:

I expected that given a low block Arteta would send Havertz into the forward position as aerial threat.

Let me use this post to state that statistics are recommended evidence and should be respected. But as Davep said, they are indicative but not conclusive which I agreed.

rooftops:

After all said and done Florian wirtz is the big name player you called. Someone who is just having his breakout season if I am correct.

The wirtz is even more of a ball carrier to me who is also still developing. So your solution to odegaard is wrong. Let us hear your solution to saka and martinelli.

rooftops:

All his criteria no even enter for wirtz. I even had to check their stats. Wirtz has 5goals and 5 assist while odegaard has 4goals and 3 assist with less games o and a more competitive league.

I no be arsenal fan but there is no way I won't put odegaard in top 5 creative midfielders in the league and saka also top 5 wingers in the league.
If he said the coach should request more from them that is understandable but saying they can't take you guys anywhere (which I will be happy about anyway ) is where I no go gree for am

Spy360:
For all the talks about Liverpool defenders, they have the best defense so far this season. Better than Arsenal and Man City.

Jodera:


Lol, the guy just dey cap, reason why no one takes him serious again.

Those are the type of people that will tell you Pepe is a better player than Saka but arsenal decided not to use him well.

If you see the way I vex when I saw Wirtz as that example ehh. Omorr, I vex.

Anyways sha, na him opinion. Make him just deh carry am dey go

Jodera:
Nobody is saying we shouldn't get a better player. In fact, we've always been advocating for players for Saka and Martinelli positions and deputy here.

What we're against is someone saying this guys can't lead us and you gave criteria that they're lacking on why they can't lead us. Oya suggest players that fits into your criteria, then you can't suggest. Even when he finally suggests, it's someone who is like a breakout star. Like who does that??

We need a lot of improvements. We need a lot of players to give our forward competition, sadly Arteta isn't doing so

Jodera:
Na lie joorr, that was just ystdy.

Bad friend

Jodera:


As for this Havertz matter.

How many times have he pushed Havertz upfront against low block teams and he's been dangerous through headers?

I can count the numbers of low block teams we've played and hardly have we ever crossed ball. In fact, Dave.P is always saying we're not a crossing team reason why we need strikers that are good aerially. You think if Havertz is always doing that, we'll be complaining?
So I don't understand which tactics you claimed he changed.

The only low block team he scored from a header is Brentford and he even came on as a sub sef.

The way you were going about and talking about unlocking and creativity, someone would think his passes and dribbles was what we missed not knowing you're talking "cross and nod" which we even hardly do.

You just formed one scenario out of your head and just dropped it here like say we no dey watch ball.

Like I said, na only you for this thread fit claim say we miss Havertz against West Ham.
And na only you dey claim say Havertz deh give us something different.

Only you ooo. But then I'm not surprised again. Na stats you dey watch

Spy360:

I expected that given a low block Arteta would send Havertz into the forward position as aerial threat.

Let me use this post to state that statistics are recommended evidence and should be respected. But as Davep said, they are indicative but not conclusive which I agreed.

You see, me saying Giroud is on par with RvP is based on stats which is true. However, everyone of us who watched Arsenal knows that RvP is a far superior player/goal scorer.

That said, my grouse with you is when you make unguarded statements probably due to arrogance like saying Giroud is very very average. Which we have seen that it isn't true because it is not backed with facts.

You can say you prefer RVP or you can say RVP is better than Giroud. But don't say Giroud is very average just to push an agenda.

Hausa:
I don't need anyone to take me seriously, lol.
Na una dey find who una go take hold body. I don't need it.
For many years, I've said we can't go all the way with the quality we have. E go be like sey na bad belle, but I've been proven right every single time. You're carried away with stats, se-len-se football and flair. I'm not.
All I'm saying is, what we have cannot take you and I to where we want to be.
But I guess the definition of where we both want to be is subject to our varying interpretation.

I know where I desire my club to be. But I know that these guys won't take us there.

Come'on!
We didn't win the League in 2005, 06, 07 and 08 with far superior players and u think we will now?
How? Why? Better Coach? Better squad? What a joke!
We almost won last season, like we didn't almost win it for many other seasons.

One ucl final in over 20 years and you think we can now reach even the ucl semi finals with these players?
Are u not seeing what our competitors are doing and how they're doing it? Nawa ooo!!!
History plays Football, bro. Know this and know peace.

You will keep dreaming and get nothing. Unfortunately, whatever you get is what I also get.

iamoyindamola:
Martinelli is an asshole and a stupid boy at that

https://twitter.com/Rice6ii/status/1741491145840918888?t=zL7Rgh45sG1npGt5q76OHw&s=19

mostob:
You dey play rubbish, Dem comot you, you dey vex sotey you ignored handshake. Na we dey give am liver sha.

Jodera:
Nobody is saying we shouldn't get a better player. In fact, we've always been advocating for players for Saka and Martinelli positions and deputy here.

What we're against is someone saying this guys can't lead us and you gave criteria that they're lacking on why they can't lead us. Oya suggest players that fits into your criteria, then you can't suggest. Even when he finally suggests, it's someone who is like a breakout star. Like who does that??

We need a lot of improvements. We need a lot of players to give our forward competition, sadly Arteta isn't doing so

Spy360:

I expected that given a low block Arteta would send Havertz into the forward position as aerial threat.

Let me use this post to state that statistics are recommended evidence and should be respected. But as Dave p said, they are indicative but not conclusive which I agreed.

You see, me saying Giroud is on par with RvP is based on stats which is true. However, everyone of us who watched Arsenal knows that RvP is a far superior player/goal scorer.

That said, my grouse with you is when you make unguarded statements probably due to arrogance like saying Giroud is very very average. Which we have seen that it isn't true because it is not backed with facts.

You can say you prefer RVP or you can say RVP is better than Giroud. But don't say Giroud is very average just to push an agenda.

Jodera:


As for this Havertz matter.

How many times have he pushed Havertz upfront against low block teams and he's been dangerous through headers?

I can count the numbers of low block teams we've played and hardly have we ever crossed ball. In fact, Dave.P is always saying we're not a crossing team reason why we need strikers that are good aerially. You think if Havertz is always doing that, we'll be complaining?
So I don't understand which tactics you claimed he changed.

The only low block team he scored from a header is Brentford and he even came on as a sub sef.

The way you were going about and talking about unlocking and creativity, someone would think his passes and dribbles was what we missed not knowing you're talking "cross and nod" which we even hardly do.

You just formed one scenario out of your head and just dropped it here like say we no dey watch ball.

Like I said, na only you for this thread fit claim say we miss Havertz against West Ham.
And na only you dey claim say Havertz deh give us something different.

Only you ooo. But then I'm not surprised again. Na stats you dey watch