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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 11:53pm On Jun 17, 2015
Specialist900:
I'm not dismissing Cech's quality. I'm only stating that David Ospina statistics last season was good. Moreso, he wasn't developed by us he was bought.

You shouldn't have headache and be treating stomach pain

I have two questions


in your opinion

is ospina world class

is he a EPL or UCL winning keeper
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Specialist900(m): 11:58pm On Jun 17, 2015
pickabeau1:


I have two questions


in your opinion

is ospina world class

is he a EPL or UCL winning keeper
I think world class is giving a great performance day in day out, he's not spent a long time with us for us to determine that

As regards winning the EPL or UCL. it's funny, somethings are not as simple as 1+1. Pls the keeper who won FC porto the UCL, was he world class? I can't even remember his name. Meaning you just can't tell it until they do

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 12:54am On Jun 18, 2015
Specialist900:
I think world class is giving a great performance day in day out, he's not spent a long time with us for us to determine that

As regards winning the EPL or UCL. it's funny, somethings are not as simple as 1+1. Pls the keeper who won FC porto the UCL, was he world class? I can't even remember his name. Meaning you just can't tell it until they do

Victor baia was a world class keeper

So ospina needs time....ok... grin

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by AJITERU: 6:04am On Jun 18, 2015
Is Cech actually better than Ospina on current form? I will say NO! Cech at 34 or 35 cannot be as good as Ospina in my own opinion. We should leave Cech alone and buy a quality stricker, DM and a top class defender. That is all we need in my humble opinion.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:11am On Jun 18, 2015
pickabeau1:


Victor baia was a world class keeper

So ospina needs time....ok... grin
Ermm, we can't just say Ospina and Sz...ny aren't world class for they are both internationals, just say Cech is best and can make the difference the former two won't make for us.
I always point that Man Utd wouldn't be in the top 4 if not for De Gea. We have always had great goalies- from Seaman to Lehmann. They were difference makers. Lehmann did not concede a goal in the 2006 UCL in all matches until he was sent off in the finals. But when Aluminium came in... You saw the Belletti goal didn't you?

But how will it feel to have 3 international keepers in one team? I think Sz...ny would go on loan.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:25am On Jun 18, 2015
AJITERU:
Is Cech actually better than Ospina on current form? I will say NO! Cech at 34 or 35 cannot be as good as Ospina in my own opinion. We should leave Cech alone and buy a quality stricker, DM and a top class defender. That is all we need in my humble opinion.
Goal keepers are like wine, the older the better until sour.

The major skill in goal keeping is confidence and that comes with experience which itself comes only with time.

Look at Buffon at 37, van Der Saar kept till he was 40, our own Lehmann too was 40, I don't know if Oliver Kahn was 45 when he became best keeper at his last WC before that dreadful mistake in his final game, Mark Schwarzer 39. Cech at 33 is better than even De Gea at 24 I tell you.

Yes we need a new CF and DM but with Cech for £11mil, and willing to join us? Too sweet to pass by.

And Mou knows this so the thing dey pain him die, that's why he wants an exchange with Chambo- see thief bad belle. :p
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 6:52am On Jun 18, 2015
Spy360:

Ermm, we can't just say Ospina and Sz...ny aren't world class for they are both internationals, just say Cech is best and can make the difference the former two won't make for us.
I always point that Man Utd wouldn't be in the top 4 if not for De Gea. We have always had great goalies- from Seaman to Lehmann. They were difference makers. Lehmann did not concede a goal in the 2006 UCL in all matches until he was sent off in the finals. But when Aluminium came in... You saw the Belletti goal didn't you?

But how will it feel to have 3 international keepers in one team? I think Sz...ny would go on loan.


In one breath you say the fact they are international means they may be world class
In another you concede keepers save points in the case of de gea.


So why do you rate ospina or scz ahead of cech

Scz has been.given a lot of opportunity
His ball distribution is whack..
He has lost command of his box unlike his first full season

He can b sold really or loaned

His head is not there now
...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Specialist900(m): 7:39am On Jun 18, 2015
pickabeau1:


Victor baia was a world class keeper

So ospina needs time....ok... grin
I laugh at victor Baia being a world class. A solid defence line covers flaws of a keeper.

IMO, David Ospina hasn't performed badly. If Cech does come, no problemo if he doesn't it doesn't do us harm

Remember, AW turned down Cesc return cos he felt he had a good attacking midfield
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 9:16am On Jun 18, 2015
continue laffing.. does not change the fact

ok.. no problem... cech will be even great addition

cesc was not a priority but as per keepers.. we just have manageable ones


Specialist900:
I laugh at victor Baia being a world class. A solid defence line covers flaws of a keeper.

IMO, David Ospina hasn't performed badly. If Cech does come, no problemo if he doesn't it doesn't do us harm

Remember, AW turned down Cesc return cos he felt he had a good attacking midfield
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 9:18am On Jun 18, 2015
Victor Baia was world class. Someone who won best keeper in Europe and best keeper/player in Portugal multiple times plus also won over 20 titles with Barca and Porto has got to be WC, No?

That aside, Arsene has not come out to say bringing in Cech automatically rules out buying a CF or DM. So let's not conclude. Everywhere I go, I hear fans and others say we need 3 quality signings to compete next season - GK, DM and CF. If we bring in Cech, that's one down, two to go.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Specialist900(m): 9:32am On Jun 18, 2015
pickabeau1:
continue laffing.. does not change the fact

ok.. no problem... cech will be even great addition

cesc was not a priority but as per keepers.. we just have manageable ones


there's no fact there na

Let's hope Wenger starts his transfer business early
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 9:35am On Jun 18, 2015
Specialist900:
there's no fact there na

Let's hope Wenger starts his transfer business early

ok..

As usual, lets wait for the last day to buy
Maybe a thrashing will help him make his mind up like the 8 -2 by United some years back
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Specialist900(m): 9:39am On Jun 18, 2015
pickabeau1:


ok..

As usual, lets wait for the last day to buy
Maybe a thrashing will help him make his mind up like the 8 -2 by United some years back
but he tried doing his business early last summer. Let's hope he repeats same now
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 9:40am On Jun 18, 2015
Specialist900:
but he tried doing his business early last summer. Let's hope he repeats same now

Yes he did
Lets wait n see
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 1:18pm On Jun 18, 2015
pickabeau1:


ok..

As usual, lets wait for the last day to buy
Maybe a thrashing will help him make his mind up like the 8 -2 by United some years back
Wenger didn't use to buy early because he wanted to be sure of UCL which is understandable. That's one of the reasons, the other is that clubs who really want to sell especially to raise funds or trim their squads break their resolves on the last day, so the players come at reasonable prices. Same with every other club that is why 70% of transfers take place on the last day.

Nevertheless if the money is available, it is better to pick up the player early enough so he can blend with others during preseason. I think that was what helped Sanchez to have his spectacular first season with us. So now that we are already in the UCL lets hope that Arsene will complete his major business early.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 1:46pm On Jun 18, 2015
Spy360:

Wenger didn't use to buy early because he wanted to be sure of UCL which is understandable. That's one of the reasons, the other is that clubs who really want to sell especially to raise funds or trim their squads break their resolves on the last day, so the players come at reasonable prices. Same with every other club that is why 70% of transfers take place on the last day.

Nevertheless if the money is available, it is better to pick up the player early enough so he can blend with others during preseason. I think that was what helped Sanchez to have his spectacular first season with us. So now that we are already in the UCL lets hope that Arsene will complete his major business early.

Not sure about this logic

Clubs now sell on the last day as a result of knock on effect

bale goes to Madrid.. spuds buy

suarez goes... sanchez goes

buyt otherwise I agree with most of ur post
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Keky(m): 2:50pm On Jun 18, 2015
Can't wait for Cech to retire as an Arsenal legend.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by diggz: 4:04pm On Jun 18, 2015
Keky:
Can't wait for Cech to retire as an Arsenal legend.

Godforbid....! Tufiakwa tongue
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by IZUKWU(m): 4:10pm On Jun 18, 2015
Keky:
Can't wait for Cech to retire as an Arsenal legend.
he already is a chelsea legend
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 7:43pm On Jun 18, 2015
Where is my friend Sod? I am missing him already.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Freelancer00(m): 4:51am On Jun 19, 2015
Specialist900:
I'm not sure Arsene will want to stunt the development of his keepers. Personally, i don't see the need for Cech
There's nothing like stunting their growth. WS1's growth has already been stunted by himself. If Cech comes in, he's going on loan to an EPL club. Ospina would be backup
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by fredoooooo: 5:32am On Jun 19, 2015
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 6:20am On Jun 19, 2015
Freelancer00:
There's nothing like stunting their growth. WS1's growth has already been stunted by himself. If Cech comes in, he's going on loan to an EPL club. Ospina would be backup

He prefers the duds be given chances n club gets stunted as a result

Some fans are now so used to mediocrity n penny pinching as a result of Wenger's pavlovian spiel over the years

I hope they see the injection of quality in the team by the additions of Ozil n Sanchez

Class is class.....

Cech is class
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Specialist900(m): 7:54am On Jun 19, 2015
Freelancer00:
There's nothing like stunting their growth. WS1's growth has already been stunted by himself. If Cech comes in, he's going on loan to an EPL club. Ospina would be backup
let's see how it plays out. We all want the best for AFC
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 8:24am On Jun 19, 2015
Would you sell Wilshere to Man City for £30million.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Freelancer00(m): 8:47am On Jun 19, 2015
pickabeau1:


He prefers the duds be given chances n club gets stunted as a result

Some fans are now so used to mediocrity n penny pinching as a result of Wenger's pavlovian spiel over the years

I hope they see the injection of quality in the team by the additions of Ozil n Sanchez

Class is class.....

Cech is class
Later they'll come and say they're not winning trophies. Our defence isn't all that so we need a solid goalkeeper
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 9:03am On Jun 19, 2015
Freelancer00:
Later they'll come and say they're not winning trophies. Our defence isn't all that so we need a solid goalkeeper

Simple
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by proudly9ja(m): 9:51am On Jun 19, 2015
Fact is whether Cech comes or not, we can't keep Ospina and Szczesny happy for long. They are both in their primes and there's just one year age difference between them. Both will want to play consistently which obviously can't happen.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by tayoccu(m): 10:20am On Jun 19, 2015
proudly9ja:
Fact is whether Cech comes or not, we can't keep Ospina and Szczesny happy for long. They are both in their primes and there's just one year age difference between them. Both will want to play consistently which obviously can't happen.

that is why they will up their game. once they know the better man will man the post, they will strive to be better
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Specialist900(m): 10:49am On Jun 19, 2015
Freelancer00:
Later they'll come and say they're not winning trophies. Our defence isn't all that so we need a solid goalkeeper
you don't know how shitty a goalie can be with a useless defence? No matter how good he is, once his defence line is bad a goalie has no say.

Majority of our loses this season were not down to goal keeper error rather faulty defending
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by pickabeau1: 11:38am On Jun 19, 2015
Specialist900:
you don't know how shitty a goalie can be with a useless defence? No matter how good he is, once his defence line is bad a goalie has no say.

Majority of our loses this season , two seasons ago, three seasons, four season, nth seasons were not down to goal keeper error rather faulty defending

Corrected
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:41am On Jun 19, 2015
Spy360:
Would you sell Wilshere to Man City for £30million.

Yes! Yes!! And FOOKING YES!!!

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