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Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Bawss1(m): 4:38pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Kobojunkie: I recall some Nlanders rejoicing that the Education allocation for that year was the highest and GEJ was positioning the country for greatness. Apparently that was all part of the election campaign. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by debosky(m): 4:39pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
texazzpete: Call me a cynic but I don't think throwing more money at the problem is necessarily the solution. 'Special attention' often means 'special looting' opportunities in Nigeria. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by aljharem3: 4:40pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
texazzpete: thus private schools are doing the job well. not many people take their children to public secondary schools. the university bit, i agree with u on that |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Beaf: 4:44pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
I don't understand anybody complaining about education. The sector is getting N100bn more than last year. Or una tink say N100bn na moi moi? |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by DisGuy: 4:50pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
alj_harem: serious?? |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by jason123: 4:50pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
That cesspit of corruption called NDDC should be scrapped! Imagine, NDDC collecting almost twice the allocation for Science and technology. What the FUC.k is "FEDERAL CAPITAL TERRITORY ADMINSTRATION – N45.57 billion" |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Mobinga: 4:54pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
The budget for education last year was N304.3bn; for 2012, it is N400.15bn. It's how the allocated amount is expended on actual development that matters more. In 2 years the sectors budget is a total of 704bn, that is OK, for proper development. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Nosyke(m): 4:55pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Over 900 Billion on security , Boko Haram is in real trouble Please you guys should tell us in unambigous terms and simple english how the budget is gonna help the unemployed,make power steady, transportation afforadble and efficient, and moreover life better for the common man in the village. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Beaf: 4:57pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
jason123: As far as I am concerned, the FCT is the only county that deserves a monthly federal allocation, so its all in order. What we should question, is why the states get allocations from the FG, instead of funding the FG as applies across the developed World. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by jason123: 5:00pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Beaf: Your FCT argument makes a lot of sense but NDDC(assuming Niger-delta is NDDC)?? Really? |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Gbawe: 5:09pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Razia Khan of Standard Chartered: http://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL6E7ND3OU20111213?pageNumber=3&virtualBrandChannel=0 "While markets may initially react positively to the announcement that the fiscal deficit is likely to narrow further as well as the slight reduction in the proportion of recurrent expenditure, we caution that there are still significant concerns," said Razia Khan, head of Africa research at Standard Chartered. "Spending has been raised further during uncertain times globally , leaving little wriggle room for the budget in response to any downside uncertainty that may impact on domestic (oil) output," Khan added. The budget proposal also assumed an exchange rate of 155 naira to the U.S. dollar compared with the current level of above 160, and average inflation of 9.5 percent compared with current double-digit levels. GDP growth was forecast at 7.2 percent in the budget proposal. FALLING SAVINGS Africa's most populous nation is supposed to put revenue above the benchmark oil price into a savings account to cushion it from future oil shocks. But analysts have raised concerns about how Nigeria would cope with a dip in oil prices, given the country's inability to save during a period of booming prices. The Excess Crude Account (ECA) has been drained in recent years, despite high oil prices.[size=14pt] The government removed $2 billion from the ECA for "various projects" last month and it now contains an estimated $3 billion.[/size] Foreign exchange reserves are around $33 billion, down $1 billion from the same period last year, despite oil prices averaging over $100 a barrel during that period. Fitch ratings agency revised its outlook on Nigeria to 'stable' from 'negative' in October following April elections, which observers said were the fairest in decades, and on optimism over a new economic team focused on reforms. Jonathan appointed former World Bank managing director Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as finance minister following his election victory and she pledged to clean-up public finances, launch a sovereign wealth fund and end costly petrol import subsidies. [size=14pt]Okonjo-Iweala said subsidies would cost $7 billion this year, a quarter of total spending, but Jonathan made no mention of subsidy plans or the SWF in his speech.[/size] The subsidy plan is controversial because most Nigerians believe cheap fuel is the only benefit they get from living in an oil-rich state. Economists see removing the handout as a necessary step because subsidies fuel corruption. Fitch warned that a sharp fall in oil prices or the failure to improve savings mechanisms, like the SWF, or to push through badly needed reforms to the power, energy and agriculture sectors could lead to downward pressure on ratings. ($1 = 162.1500 Nigerian nairas) (Additional reporting by Chijioke Ohuocha in Lagos; Writing by Joe Brock; Editing by Ruth Pitchford) |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by jmaine: 5:11pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
The cynic bandits are in dha house and as usual emitting stench criticism for no just cause . . . The Good news is that your screams only ends here while the rest of us look forward to a proper implementation of the stated figures . .which is the most important |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by aljharem3: 5:21pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Dis Guy: yeah seriously there are more private school built in the last 20 years In Nigeria than any other country the so called public schools like KC QC etc are now rubbished by schools like BIS etc also are you aware that the public schools in Nigeria is not excatly public You still end up paying about 5000 Naira or so every term. they would ask that u buy the school uniform from them at high prices compulsory books according to them. ( Library is nothing to write home about) term registration fees about 3000 Naira ( they would tell you it is not school fees but registration) etc for what, crap education ? I would always advice any parent to send their children to private schools (primary and secondary). The public schools in those dayz are not the way they are now. KC aka King college Lagos was one of the best secondary school in Africa back in the days but now it is a shadow of it's former self. As for Universities,I would always advice people to go for Federal University because University is not just about education but also exposure aka experiencing life in a micro community. It is better to go to a Public university with a 2.1 than go to a private university with a 2.1. Why because the 2.1 graduate in a public university does not only have a high IQ but also streetwise and can use his digression and common sense when it is needed. Of course a 1st in a public or private university is a genius. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by kokoA(m): 5:24pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
I am really not concerned about how much money goes to which sector. Obviously, the whole sectors of Nigerian economy is sick and needs urgent attention. What I am concerned about is how this budget will be implemented. As it is, if properly implemented to at least 70 percent, we shall all forget about who got what. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Gbawe: 5:41pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
jmaine: The usual 'dem again us' talk. My brother, we are all Nigerians who saw the 2011 budget do nothing for Nigerians despite recieving praises the usual sycophantic praises. In real terms, there is nothing spectacular about this budget and with corruption running double what it was last year i.e 200% ( ) we can expect even worse implementation of the 2012 budget. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by olaezebala: 5:47pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
sometimes I wonder where this money all goes to |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by adamooye5(m): 5:50pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
I'm surprise u guys r complainingan I remember during election u all r shouting for fresh air!To me oil subsidy is. The fresh air and I'm enjoying it. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by DisGuy: 5:50pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
How much was spent in a single year to tackle MEND ? is the FG saying Boko Haram is more dangerous than MENd whose activities directly affected oil feed back door subsidy if you ask me, will they be doling out contracts for retired general just to keep the peace or actually tackle the cause of these as they partly did for the ND |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by jmaine: 5:51pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Gbawe: Bros . .we should be more concerned about the budget percentage implementation than allocation . . .even if an allocation of N1 trillion is designated to certain sectors people felt received low attention, and the implementation still remain poor as usual. . .how does it change the decay already on ground . . . That was why i said . . the implementation of the budget is much more important to me than who get whats . . . As per your 200% corruption tory . . . : well |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by jason123: 5:52pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
jmaine: Asking questions and criticizing when deemed fit does not mean people are not look forward to its implementation. He is our president, after all. I wish GEJ all the best!!! |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Gbawe: 5:59pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
jmaine: I agree with you and that is why I mentioned that implementation will be worse because of corruption. What we are seeing in the NNPC, for example, is worrying and not limited to the oil sector in my opinion. GEJ's ministers are not , IMO, the team to move budget implementation appreciably higher in favour of greater efficiency. I honestly think percentage figure for implementation will be worse if the gradualist response we see so far, to specific challenges, continues to be the norm. That is my opinion based on solid premises of what we can all see so far. http://www.businessdayonline.com/NG/index.php/analysis/editorial/30747-budget-2012-and-public-expectations Budget 2012 and public expectations |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Chubhie: 6:07pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
This budget will keep the generals busy and happy with loads of cash to burn. The masses should just perish any thoughts of revolution after the removal of fuel subsidy. Presido don plan em moves wella. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Kilode1: 6:13pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Ejiné: Ejiné: Exactly. I will also like to piggy back on the previous Questions you asked about FCT allocations: The same applies to the Niger Delta Budget. Why do we have another $Bilions of dollars for the Niger Delta when they are already benefitting from the monies allocated to other sectors from Education to Security to Works? I'm asking this with all sense of responsibility. The Niger Delta is a criminally neglected part of this country. They have carried the brunt of misrule, mismanagement and oppression by the "owners of Nigeria" but I fail to see how previous allocations to that Ministry has benefitted the region. Will Niger deltans not share out of the rest of the budget too? The sad thing is that this money will never get to the right places under this lopsided system. Never! What we need is federalism. True federalism. This divide and chop method of budget and oil money sharing benefits no one but the few people with access to power and influence across all regions. BTW, shebi we wanted to reduce recurrent expenditure? What happened nah? 1 Like |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Funkymallam(m): 6:22pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
@Gbawe. Last year benchmark was $75 and not $65/barrel, even u quoted a source and chose to highlight just d one that favours ur argument. Must u lie to prove a point? Below is ur source again. http://sweetcrudereports.com/2011/09/16/nigeria-sets-2012-budget-on-75b-oil-price-benchmark/ My main problem here is implementation. Also that budget for ND i dnt get it. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Nchara: 6:23pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
So you admit GEJ was lying when he claimed that Boko Haram is fast becoming a non-issue? Texazzpete: ''Is fast becoming a non- issues'' does not mean it is now a non-issue. This budget if well implement will help make it (fasten) a non issue |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Demdem(m): 6:29pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
We have always have good budgets, implementation is our main challenge. Just like someone asked earlier, me think 2011 budget was spent on salaries, allowances, estacodes and their kinds. |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Nchara: 6:30pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
certainly not by putting more more into the generals to appease them, or what is the money for exactly? ransome fees? The generals are not the only ones involved in defense contracts Arisekola Alao Folawiyo Rochas Okorocha Arthu Nzeribe and I believe several northern civilians are all defense/police contractors |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Gbawe: 6:37pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Funkymallam: I think it was $65 because I remember this causing a problem when the Reps wanted it revised upwards and the DG of the budget office refusing flatly. http://sturvs.com/4155/ 2011 budget: Why we project $65 benchmark for crude oil -FG Go to article |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by holahabib: 6:41pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
ttt |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by Funkymallam(m): 6:45pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
@Gbawe. Pls check my modified post again, i just read tru ur post ans source again. Thnx |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by ITL: 6:58pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
k |
Re: 2012 Budget Breakdown by sectors (Defence is the biggest) by chidexy(m): 7:00pm On Dec 13, 2011 |
Why don't we exercise some restraint until the breakdown of the budget comes in before seeing the real picture of where more money has been allocated, with respect to the previous year(s). Like @Gbawe said, implementation of the budget is the key to national development. We have faced serious security challenges and tackling them should cost increasingly more. While I would have loved to see less money spent on security, we cannot but spend more to try to contain the various challenges. At least now that we see the cost, we can consider the cost and importance of peace in the country. FCT is administered by a Minister and it is a creation of the constitution and usually take direct appropriation from source (I guess it is 1% of federal revenue). So it's expected that their allocation should be 1% of the total federal budget, hence the 45 billion Naira. Nobody expects the recurrent expenditure to be drastically lowered - what with the recently approved new minimum wage for workers. If they can reduce just the fraction of what political jobbers take home, Nigerians would be glad. |
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