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Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Rhino5dm: 3:40am On Dec 28, 2011
All Igbos covertly and overtly HATES any truthful northerner and like dubious ones like IBB for reasons known to all. They see the north as their enemies, the north prevented them from making SS their slaves, by creating South South region. Can they survive without the north? Even with all the display of sheer hatreds and current spate of bombings, watch them race back to thesame north after christmas.

check them out on Nairaland. . .its allowed for them to think they are smart.


kingoflag:


Buhari is also the reason why Aso Rock intends to spend $1billion on food while the average Nigerian is starving.

Buhari is also the reason why theres no electricity.

Buhari is also the reason why the average pay for Senators in Nigeria is north of $2million while the Government says it cant afford a $60 minimum wage pay for Nigerians.

Buhari is also the reason why $75million is budgeted to build the Vice President a spanking new villa will a lot of Nigerians are homeless and sleep under bridges at night.

Bros look in the mirror and realize who truly has the heart of Lucifer. Freaking Intolerant and illiterate bigots!
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Relax101(m): 3:42am On Dec 28, 2011
History of Northern Madness in Nigeria.

Jos in 1945

Kano genocide 1953

1966 Massacres

Kano1980

Maiduguri in 1982

Jimeta in 1984

Gombe violence in 1985

Kaduna & Kafanchan 1991

Bauchi & Kastina 1991

Kano 1991

Zango-Kataf in 1992

Funtua in 1993

Kano in 1994

Maiduguri January 10, 2001

Kaduna 2000

Kaduna 2002

Kaduna 2011

Beheading of Gideon Akaluka in December of 1996 in Kano

Saint Moritz killed on December 12 2001

Post Election: 10 corpers and numerous citizens murdered.

Jos Christmas eve 2010 and still ongoing.

Christmas day 2011



Na Only North dey naija? haba!
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Rhino5dm: 3:45am On Dec 28, 2011
^
what are your people still doing in the north? ?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 3:47am On Dec 28, 2011
dayokanu:

^^ Some people are just so retardded that they cant even post sensible topics

If it isnt insane ideas like excluding Northerners from the military its spinning and selling about how Buhari sponsors Boko Haram, later Boko Haram is Matatsaine and later Buhari kills Maitatsine from Cameroun

Can anyone be more retardeed

I guess the real retards are those like you, people who pull rumours straight out of their sorry gory arses to "counter" articles and positions that are backed up with solidly verifiable references and impeccable logic.

Mek una dance e! Celebrate! Hunters, rewires and hedgehog chasers have come to an intellectual debate! Wonders!! grin
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 3:57am On Dec 28, 2011
Beaf,

I saw lies, i saw Buhari and I saw Maitatsine in the heading. . . . so I thought I should see what you cooking. It smells good but can you make it more flavorable for tatse? Where does lies, buhari, maitatsine connect with Boko?

I understand the logical link that Boko is, possibly, a remnant of Maitatsine reformated. I am lost though on what Buhari has to do with that reformation? Can you please clarify.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Relax101(m): 4:00am On Dec 28, 2011
Rhino.5dm:

All Igbos covertly and overtly HATES any truthful northerner and like dubious ones like IBB for reasons known to all. They see the north as their enemies, the north prevented them from making SS their slaves, by creating South South region. Can they survive without the north? Even with all the display of sheer hatreds and current spate of bombings, watch them race back to thesame north after christmas.
 
  check them out on Nairaland. . .its allowed for them to think they are smart.




If you dnt know who suggested the creation of the south south region, then you should forever shut your mouth.
You sound so mentally unbalanced. lol. mumu

Rhino.5dm:

^
what are your people still doing in the north? ?


haha, you dey talk like say your people no dey affected. we go talk make everybody dey take notice of the list.
I remember the SW community demanding billions from the FG after the Jos riot.
As usual you go shut up dey follow follow like say all is well.
Are you mentally defeated or what? I just dnt get it.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 4:10am On Dec 28, 2011
Negro_Ntns:

Beaf,

I saw lies, i saw Buhari and I saw Maitatsine in the heading. . . . so I thought I should see what you cooking. It smells good but can you make it more flavorable for tatse? Where does lies, buhari, maitatsine connect with Boko?

I understand the logical link that Boko is, possibly, a remnant of Maitatsine reformated. I am lost though on what Buhari has to do with that reformation? Can you please clarify.

Its simple, each time there is a bombing, Buhari's followers (and the man himself) begin hopping happily and telling huge lies about how Buhari quenched the maitatsine scourge.
Well, it is evident that the maitatsine cult was not defeated and persists until today. It is also evident that the maitatsine murderers killed between 1000 and 2000 people during Buhari's reign, armed with only sticks and stones. A figure that the modern boko haram, armed with bombs is far from matching.
If maitatsine animals could wipe out so many innocent souls under a military dictatorship, should the ex-dictator and his followers come out lying about how they snuffed out maitatsine? Instead, does it not raise suspicion that the animals were left to slaughter at will and their leader killed as a token as happened to boko harams Ustaz Muhammad?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Nobody: 4:25am On Dec 28, 2011
Beaf:

Its simple, each time there is a bombing, Buhari's followers (and the man himself) begin hopping happily and telling huge lies about how Buhari quenched the maitatsine scourge.


Uncle, abeg try forget who dey toot their own horns, after all, its mere human nature to be boastful. Just try tell us wetin Oga GEJ dey try do to curb this raging inferno that is insistent on taking innocent souls into its raging flames. After all, GEJ DON TALK SAY HE KNOW THE CULPRITS; SO WHAT IS HE WAITING FOR TO BRING THEM TO JUSTICE!?!?!
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Rhino5dm: 4:33am On Dec 28, 2011
Brouhahahahahahaha!
I said created and you vomit "suggested". Did i ask who created SS or Suggested the creation os SS? Are you having malaria? Or its just early morning ogogoro? Now, who is suffering from mental unbalance?


Relax101:


If you dnt know who suggested the creation of the south south region, then you should forever shut your mouth.
You sound so mentally unbalanced. lol. mumu


haha, you dey talk like say your people no dey affected. we go talk make everybody dey take notice of the list.
I remember the SW community demanding billions from the FG after the Jos riot.
As usual you go shut up dey follow follow like say all is well.
Are you mentally defeated or what? I just dnt get it.

As for your second rants, it is very normal to ask for compensation, when there is an establish facts of unwarranted damage by any body. Many of our people are caught up in many tragedies, like road accident, religious crisis and all that, but we dont do go about lying everywhere to justify tragedy or acts by illiterate misgiuded, stone-aged animals. We cant be scattered all over the north, and be complaining about our people being killed, when we have the options of pulling out.



But, it is very wicked to lie and create an ugly scenario based on previous deep rooted hates the average SE'ner have toward the north, to justify whatever agenda you are harbouring . Agreed, the north is wicked,evil and all that. One would have expected your people to consider north as no go area, than shouting everywhere and making up lies to justify the greedy Biafrann agenda. the numbers of Igbos killed in road accident alone, is by far far more than those lost in religious/ethnic northern crisis, why haven't we see you shouting about road accident? That is called hypocritism!
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by dayokanu(m): 4:37am On Dec 28, 2011
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Rhino5dm: 5:45am On Dec 28, 2011
Wow! wow!!!
This is it! This is it!!!
No wonder these animals continue to forment trouble and create a make-believe, self serving, egocentirc-maniac syndromes everywhere they are.

I remember while going to school in the north in my early days, my igbo friends always refer the northerners as goat, cows, mumus and all sorts of self demeaning names even when the northerners accord them due respect, atimes i wonder whats really the cause of this intentional inciteful pervarted atitude toward those that allow you to stay, trade and multiply in their communities.

There is a particular Igbo woman that will go at night to search for dead/semi decaying cows, which she will use to make pepper soup to her costumers in the morning. I use to wonder the reaction of those people eating from her would be, if they find out the source of her meat. Going by how the northerners detest eating dead meat without the usual islamic/christian rituals of praying before slaughtering.



There was a time when almost all robbery suspects caught in Bauchi are thesame Igbo traders. They usually own small shops as a cover/decoy, while robbing people in the night and plugging back the blood monies into the business. The most annoying of all, is they will come and start boasting about how hard working they are. Anytime an armed robber is capture or killed and the body display it must be Igbo trader.

Finally, my perception about them has been changed,laminated and cemented. I came to NL with different notion about them, finding it very difficult to accept the reality even with alot of memories of their usual ways. Thanks DK for this great master piece. Finally, today i learn something new. Wow!





dayokanu:

Rhino

You need to read this

http://chatafrik.com/articles/nigerian-affairs/item/321-why-do-igbos-always-go-looking-for-trouble?.html
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Nadanbata: 6:52am On Dec 28, 2011
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 7:18am On Dec 28, 2011
Its simple, each time there is a bombing, Buhari's followers (and the man himself) begin hopping happily and telling huge lies about how Buhari quenched the maitatsine scourge.
Well, it is evident that the maitatsine cult was not defeated and persists until today. It is also evident that the maitatsine murderers killed between 1000 and 2000 people during Buhari's reign, armed with only sticks and stones. A figure that the modern boko haram, armed with bombs is far from matching.
If maitatsine animals could wipe out so many innocent souls under a military dictatorship, should the ex-dictator and his followers come out lying about how they snuffed out maitatsine? Instead, does it not raise suspicion that the animals were left to slaughter at will and their leader killed as a token as happened to boko harams Ustaz Muhammad?

Let me correct some misperception about the Maitatsine riots.

The Political Environment

1. The problem erupted during Shagari's regime as President - NPN
2.  Alex Ekwueme was the VP.
3.  Abubakar Rimi was Governor in Kano - PRP
4.  Abubakar Rimi was a liberal and though favored by the people, he was unpopular with the elites
5.  Rimi fell out of line with the Emir and divided Kano into two camps
6.  Rimi subsequently fell out of line with Aminu Kano and left PRP to join NPP.  
7. There was not a single member of the Governor's cabinet, male or female, that was not a college graduate.

The Social Environment

1.  Abubakar Rimi severed the annual homage rites enjoyed by the Emir of Kano from the sub Emirs in the provinces thereby clipping Ado Bayero's wings of dominion and power over the emirate.  
2.  Rimi made a number of drastic social changes that went counter to traditional values cherished in the conservative society - he challenged the value of keeping an harem locked up.
3.  He pushed liberal values of western ideas into schools and classrooms and made it unlawful to deny education to girls.
4. There is a wide perception of dissafection with the governor.

The Religious Environment

1.  Friday services in the Masjid became rallying ground for sermonizing about the bad government
2.  It was believed that Rimi was listening to Southern voices that wanted to accelerate development in North and they were doing that by tearing down the fabric of the culture and values.  The culture is Islamic and so it was viewed as an affront to Islam.  The forces of Evil against Good!   - George Bush must have taken from this playbook for his post 9/11 response.  
3.  Chatter and movement started underground within the city walls, particularly in Fagge.  Protests and marches to air grievances are ususally reserved for after Jumaat prayer.
4.  The abbattoir (slaughter house) was located in Fagge, in fact up the block from Dantata's family house.  
5.  Maitatsine's religious or cult compound was also located in that district of town but couple of blocks east of the abbattoir.
6.  Fagge is just on the outside of the city wall and so it has its red light zones and the shady black market pawn dealers areas and the bootleggers and all.  It is a close enclave of muslims from all parts of the Africa - Arabs from North, Malians, Senegalese, Ghanaians, Camerronians, Nupes, Yorubas, Sudanese, Chadians. . . all in there.  Its not uncommon for dialects to change from Hausa to Arabic in an instant.
7.  The people of Fagge knew the maitatsine cult members by their appearance. . . .to the untrained eye they are almajiris, but to those who know them they are distinguishable by their dressiing and manners.  Some of them do pan handle but for most part they set up tent on the roadside and preach sermons.
8.  There had been reports of missing and never found persons generally in the municipal area for some time but in the immediate months leading to the riots the number of dissapearance jumped up.  There were also rumors of sightings in the vicinity of the compound of people. . . strange people that didnt belong that are escorted in but no one see them exit.  
9.  Ado Bayero knew about maitatsine and was not comfortable at all with his presence in town, particularly couple of blocks outside the city gates and his Palace.  They contained him but kept an eye . . . a close eye on his acts.  
10.  The week before the riot broke out, on a tip off, police undercover went to surveul maitatsine and his boys.  They did not know who is who but believed if anyone has his ears to the ground and has leading information to share, the area almajiri would be the one.  Big error!
11.  The next day, few of the workers in the slaughter house were caught trying to sneak the facility's daggers out of premise.  It was allowed for individual to own personal dagger for skinning, cutting, of the meat and so on. . . . but the slaughter knives themselves were not allowed outside and in fact only specific trusted people were authorized to be in posession of it and only within premise.  Anyway, when they were stopped scuffle broke and before you could say stop. . . human blood was flowing where cow blood had been.  
12.  Police was not far away because they had a surveillance watch on. . . the boys were arrested at gun point and locked up.
13.  News got to Emir.  News also got to Maitatsine.  He demanded release of his boys.  In Hausaland police cannot enter and search a compound, it is forbidden because there are harems in there and so it was impossible for police to barge in and arrest or conduct search of the compound.  
14.  Tensions brewed in that few days and skirmishes between these boys and citizens were reported on and about town.
15. On Friday as people were heading to prayer, maitatsine boys were already showing signs of trouble and in fact there reports of them attacking people going to prayers.  This forced some people to return home and grab their own weapons before heading back out.  
16.  The central Jumaat mosque is right outside the Emir's palace.  You come out of the mosque, take about ten steps into a gate and you enter a long corridor that brings you out into the courtyard.
17.  When prayer ended word had gone around that Maitatsine boys were on the street butchering uniformed police and innocent civilians.  A line of defense formed around the palace and mayhem broke loose.   There were people sent to take attack to Fagge and match force and savagery with tatsine.  None of them came back alive. . . in fact the ones that saw what was happening in the distance turned their backs and fled back to the mosque.
18.  Maitasine boys had also formed their own defense line - 1, they blocked access to the abattoir and the adjoining sheep market, they blocked all access road into their enclave, they locked their compound down.  
19.  They were shooting arrows, they had swords, double-edged daggers and guns.  Then they had a powerful gaze that paralyzes their victims.  So that if one of them fixes his gaze into you it paralyzes your ability to escape and he just approach and finish the kill.  
20.  Bad and ruthless as mopo - mobile police - was at the time, you will see mobile police taking his uniform off to blend into crowd and flee.  
21. They attacked police stations and stole automatic power rifles.  


Anyway, this went on for over a month and the authorities played political games trying to score points to influence the electorates for upcoming elections.  They thought about bombing them from the air. . . dropping explosives into the compound from the air.  An air force jet would not match the desired precision but a helicopter could do it but then judging by the amount of arsenal and the grade of ammo they were using, it was best not to underestimate their ability to shhot down the hovering chopper, so the aerial bombardment idea was dropped.  At last the Army was deployed with tanks.  In the battle, even couple of soldiers lost their lives and had to retreat and reinforce.  They brought in an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on.  They came in from three directions. . . . before they made it to the compound courier already delivered news of their approach.  Maitatsine himself abandoned the coompound. . . there was a drainage canal that ran for miles behind his compund through the city.  He dropped into the canal.  A soldier spotted him and fired hitting his thigh or leg. . . . but then another soldier spotted him and gave chase to break the distance and attemnpt to capture him alive.  The two soon lost sight of him.  In their separate accounts given later, they said Maitatsine had to be using some supernatural power in his flight along the canal, he was not running at the pace of a sprinter but almost triple the speed and for a man mortally wounded in the leg it was beyond logic to explain how he made it that fast and covered that much distance as he did in such a little time.  They foillowed the blood trail and is how they found him already slumped dead.  

A search of the compound revealed two deep wells, no water but filled to the top with severed human heads.  Some were fresh. . . just slaughtered that morning.  These were the people that had dissapeared and not found. . . . the ones that went in but never came back out,   The number in the wells alone was over 1000, not counting numerous people killed on the streets over a month period.  It was revealed that he was using human blood for supernatural powers for himself and for other pwople who came to seek his help to get rich, or get women or power. .



Im sorry to bore you all with the lengthy narrative, forgive me. . . but we need to have the accurate history of what happend in past so we know how to counter it when a repeat demands action.   GEJ know what to do dissolve Boko. . . and the Northern Emirs know what to do to dissolve it.  The two need to work together and end Boko, we should stop playing politics with people lives.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Rhino5dm: 7:36am On Dec 28, 2011
^
You have succeded in throwing pearls to the pigs! My style of approach is what keep them in checked. Dont waste your time in educating their fat lazy brains and over feed their ignorance. We all know that this thread is born out of sheer desperation to protect the blood thirsty clueless, stuupid and useless PDP-GEJ lead government. I have vowed to frustrate all their efforts at my leisure time. They are hypocrites!
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Nobody: 7:48am On Dec 28, 2011
classic tactics from the dolt speaker for the hatted drunkard

long after the election is over and done with the dunce is still swiftboating buhari, just as his dunce oga in aso rock is still miscafonting



Anyway, this went on for over a month and the authorities played political games trying to score points to influence the electorates for upcoming elections. They thought about bombing them from the air. . . dropping explosives into the compound from the air. An air force jet would not match the desired precision but a helicopter could do it but then judging by the amount of arsenal and the grade of ammo they were using, it was best not to underestimate their ability to shhot down the hovering chopper, so the aerial bombardment idea was dropped. At last the Army was deployed with tanks. In the battle, even couple of soldiers lost their lives and had to retreat and reinforce. They brought in an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on. They came in from three directions. . . . before they made it to the compound courier already delivered news of their approach. Maitatsine himself abandoned the coompound. . . there was a drainage canal that ran for miles behind his compund through the city. He dropped into the canal. A soldier spotted him and fired hitting his thigh or leg. . . . but then another soldier spotted him and gave chase to break the distance and attemnpt to capture him alive. The two soon lost sight of him. In their separate accounts given later, they said Maitatsine had to be using some supernatural power in his flight along the canal, he was not running at the pace of a sprinter but almost triple the speed and for a man mortally wounded in the leg it was beyond logic to explain how he made it that fast and covered that much distance as he did in such a little time. They foillowed the blood trail and is how they found him already slumped dead.

A search of the compound revealed two deep wells, no water but filled to the top with severed human heads. Some were fresh. . . just slaughtered that morning. These were the people that had dissapeared and not found. . . . the ones that went in but never came back out, The number in the wells alone was over 1000, not counting numerous people killed on the streets over a month period. It was revealed that he was using human blood for supernatural powers for himself and for other pwople who came to seek his help to get rich, or get women or power. .



Im sorry to bore you all with the lengthy narrative, forgive me. . . but we need to have the accurate history of what happend in past so we know how to counter it when a repeat demands action. GEJ know what to do dissolve Boko. . . and the Northern Emirs know what to do to dissolve it. The two need to work together and end Boko, we should stop playing politics with people lives.

does the bolded sound familiar?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 7:50am On Dec 28, 2011
lmao. . . Rhino, I know.  Trust me bruh, I can keep a sealed lip for centuries if my life will be spared that long.   This truth on the other hand needed to come out.  

I saw a picture of a little child held in the arms of a nurse.  A little child Rhino.  The skull was blown open, brain in view.  This is someone's child.  I dont know the parents, dont even know if they are alive or dead with the child. . . wherever they are I grieve with them in spirit.  There are certains savagery that are justified and which I will support and even maybe champion. . . but not an attack on a people that did me no wrong or attacked me.  People gathered to worship their GOD. . . .who is Boko to define which GOD people should worship?  

Men, for the sake of that child, let the truth out there and let these leaders get it together.  They dont need what I shared tonight, they know it.  In fact they know more than I know of this history.  What are they waiting on?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Nobody: 8:03am On Dec 28, 2011
I saw a picture of a little child held in the arms of a nurse. A little child Rhino. The skull was blown open, brain in view. This is someone's child. I dont know the parents, dont even know if they are alive or dead with the child. . . wherever they are I grieve with them in spirit. There are certains savagery that are justified and which I will support and even maybe champion. . . but not an attack on a people that did me no wrong or attacked me. People gathered to worship their GOD. . . .who is Boko to define which GOD people should worship?

may BH, their sponsors and our good for nothing security chiefs and yes gej ALL BURN IN HELL angry angry angry angry angry
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 8:14am On Dec 28, 2011
Amen.

For anyone interested in more maitatsine story go here. Some of the accounts are misplaced but generally the author captured the fact as it was. If you don't know boko haram, read this account and you will have a intimate knowledge of what they stand for. The method of operation is same but on different scale.

[url]http://books.google.com/books?id=4X4oYdPpXGQC&pg=PA153&lpg=PA153&dq=maitatsine+in+fagge&source=bl&ots=tdIpM3kIx1&sig=xTIdkP-lFqjesYSj0VXgay-tkcA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=G8D6TpuwAdGbtwe7893QBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CB0Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=maitatsine%20in%20fagge&f=false[/url]
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Rhino5dm: 8:16am On Dec 28, 2011
^
I totally understood how you feel and every genuine citizen should find away of condenming this cold hearted murder of innocent souls by these stone-aged savages. That said.

But when you are dealing with mongrels that value a cup of garri more than their parents, then you will be left with no option than to act in away to combat their lies. How can any reasonable person want to cash in this ugly situation to further his political prosperity nonsense? More pathetic when thesame guy is a special adviser to the president. I find it very insultive on the innocent souls of the departed victims caught up between a weak dumb government and sordid stone-aged animals.

How can any sane person dive in to celebrate death of innocent souls? Instead of the OP to advise GEJ on the best way to tackle this uprising he is trying to place spin on the issue and distort the existing facts. How can any meaningful atom comes out this government with the likes of the OP around GEJ? Come to think of the kind of the advise the OP will be feeding the moroonic brain of GEJ. shocked Lord have mercy!

Atimes you wonder how they manage to sleep at night with all the gory pictures of innocent souls flying the air waves. Disgusting!

My policy is either the records be set straight or their lies should be destroy. Finito! cool
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 11:48pm On Dec 28, 2011
@Negro_Ntns
Did you post that lengthy text for fun? I am at great pains to understand the "misconceptions" you claim to be clearing or even if 100% of what you posted is not lightweight hearsay that is irrelevant to this thread.

Please don't derail the thread.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Nobody: 12:02am On Dec 29, 2011
Rhino.5dm:

All Igbos covertly and overtly HATES any truthful northerner and like dubious ones like IBB for reasons known to all. They see the north as their enemies, the north prevented them from making SS their slaves, by creating South South region. Can they survive without the north? Even with all the display of sheer hatreds and current spate of bombings, watch them race back to thesame north after christmas.
   
   check them out on Nairaland. . .its allowed for them to think they are smart.



I doubt your insinuations are true. I understand where you're coming from, especially if you use NL as a Yard stick. The Igbos that I know, however, do not even know hatred like this exists in Nigeria and they will be appalled if I ever showed them a site like NL existed; might change their view of things for the worst. The truth is the mentality of Nigerians is Super-Weird and the things I read on here not only shock, but also anger, me as well.

The Igbos you are referring to above are the Ne'er-do-wells, the crooks, the criminals, the tribalists, and the bigots. Those are the ones that'll share an affinity with a scoundrel that deserves to be dragged in the streets and butchered like Sallah Ram like IBB. See, most of my Igbo friends are Educated and God fearing (my closest friend is Atheist).

Aren't there Igbos that love Northerners? You can't characterize them all as the same. Take a wild guess who Chinua Achebe would rescue if IBB and Buhari were on the edge of a cliff and he had to save just one person. See? Its just unfortunate that most of the clowns we see on NL are the lowest of the low. But, hey, what can we do, right? After all, Seun has to make a living somehow.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by dayokanu(m): 12:11am On Dec 29, 2011
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Enugu — THE Ikemba Nnewi, Chief Chukwuemeka Odumegwu Ojukwu, was yesterday, reported to be in support for the presidential ambition of former military leader, General Ibrahim Babangida, in 2011, saying he would support him as far as it was the desire and aspiration of the people of the country.

What do you say about that?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 12:19am On Dec 29, 2011
kingoflag:

I doubt your insinuations are true. I understand where you're coming from, especially if you use NL as a Yard stick. The Igbos that I know, however, do not even know hatred like this exists in Nigeria and they will be appalled if I ever showed them a site like NL existed; might change their view of things for the worst. The truth is the mentality of Nigerians is Super-Weird and the things I read on here not only shock, but also anger, me as well.

The Igbos you are referring to above are the Ne'er-do-wells, the crooks, the criminals, the tribalists, and the bigots. Those are the ones that'll share an affinity with a scoundrel that deserves to be dragged in the streets and butchered like Sallah Ram like IBB. See, most of my Igbo friends are Educated and God fearing (my closest friend is Atheist).

Aren't there Igbos that love Northerners? You can't characterize them all as the same. Take a wild guess who Chinua Achebe would rescue if IBB and Buhari were on the edge of a cliff and he had to save just one person. See? Its just unfortunate that most of the clowns we see on NL are the lowest of the low. But, hey, what can we do, right? After all, Seun has to make a living somehow.

Hmmm! There is some good in you after all!
The above is a very redeeming post, the fellows you hang with on NL are all ethnic bigots, so pardon me if I say people like me had written you off.
We might not agree, but you have truly gained my respect with the above post; please keep it up.

The likes of Rhino.5dm are hateful irredeemably creatures fit only to be exhibitted in zoo's and freak shows.

@topic
Can the bigots who are present address the indisputable points about maitatsine and Buhari instead of airing your vast stup!dity about ethnic groups?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Nobody: 12:30am On Dec 29, 2011
Beaf:

Hmmm! There is some good in you after all!
The above is a very redeeming post, the fellows you hang with on NL are all ethnic bigots, so pardon me if I say people like me had written you off.
We might not agree, but you have truly gained my respect with the above post; please keep it up.

The likes of Rhino.5dm are hateful irredeemably creatures fit only to be exhibitted in zoo's and freak shows.

@topic
Can the bigots who are present address the indisputable points about maitatsine and Buhari instead of airing your vast stup!dity about ethnic groups?

What dudes do I "HANG OUT WITH" ?!

Dude, you intelligence  is not in doubt, so is your bigotry. Go through my posts, then go through yours.

Now, chuck your compliments where the sun don't shine. Peace.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 12:37am On Dec 29, 2011
kingoflag:

What dudes do I "HANG OUT WITH" ?!

Dude, you intelligence is not in doubt, so is your bigotry. Go through my posts, then go through yours.

Now, chuck your compliments where the sun don't shine. Peace.

There is no bigotry anywhere in my posts, and I'm willing to withdraw my compliments to ungracious types.
As for my intelligence, it is Gods gift and I sincerely thank Him.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by dayokanu(m): 12:40am On Dec 29, 2011
kingoflag:

What dudes do I "HANG OUT WITH" ?!

Dude, you intelligence is not in doubt, so is your bigotry. Go through my posts, then go through yours.

Now, chuck your compliments where the sun don't shine. Peace.

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Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by dayokanu(m): 12:43am On Dec 29, 2011
Beaf:

There is no bigotry anywhere in my posts, and I'm willing to withdraw my compliments to ungracious types.
As for my intelligence, it is Gods gift and I sincerely thank Him.



Egbon mi razist?

Shey you want Aboniki, Alabukun or After-5? This beating too much ooo

Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 1:30am On Dec 29, 2011
@Negro_Ntns
Did you post that lengthy text for fun? I am at great pains to understand the "misconceptions" you claim to be clearing or even if 100% of what you posted is not lightweight hearsay that is irrelevant to this thread.

Please don't derail the thread

Beaf, you are the one having fun, not me. . . . You are insinuating with your post that Buhari is culpable in the transformation from Maitatsine to Boko. What I posted is not hearsay, my family lived in Kano at the time, I gave you a first hand account. Its relevance is to clear your falsehood.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 1:32am On Dec 29, 2011
Here is how you opened the post. . . .


This is a thread to burst the outright lies being spread about the Maitatsine uprisings.
It is strange the way the rumour mill hijacks the laziest minds and turns them into efficient propagators of super-stretched tall tales and unenvieble gossip.
The duty of every morally and mentally robust citizen is setting the records straight.

I rose to the challenge of setting records straight.
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 1:55am On Dec 29, 2011
Negro_Ntns:

Beaf, you are the one having fun, not me. . . . You are insinuating with your post that Buhari is culpable in the transformation from Maitatsine to Boko. What I posted is not hearsay, my family lived in Kano at the time, I gave you a first hand account. Its relevance is to clear your falsehood.

For the bolded, there is no need for you to be dishonest. It is childish.

Secondly, I quoted from several sources to back up my words, but you posted a very lengthy essay that makes no sense. You even compressed the maitatsine episode into a single month shocked, despite writing stuff about Shagari's regime and extending that into Buhari's. Would this be because your family members gave you "first hand account" or would it be because you did a copy and paste from different sources without the slightest understanding of what you were doing?

You amaze me. Please tell the house which of my quoted sources is wrong and why. If you cannot, then do the respectful and stop posting hearsay, we are adults.

Negro_Ntns: Anyway, this went on for over a month and the authorities played political games trying to score points to influence the electorates for upcoming elections.  They thought about bombing them from the air. . . dropping explosives into the compound from the air.  An air force jet would not match the desired precision but a helicopter could do it but then judging by the amount of arsenal and the grade of ammo they were using, it was best not to underestimate their ability to shhot down the hovering chopper, so the aerial bombardment idea was dropped.  At last the Army was deployed with tanks.  In the battle, even couple of soldiers lost their lives and had to retreat and reinforce.  They brought in an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on.  They came in from three directions. . . . before they made it to the compound courier already delivered news of their approach.  Maitatsine himself abandoned the coompound. . . there was a drainage canal that ran for miles behind his compund through the city.  He dropped into the canal.  A soldier spotted him and fired hitting his thigh or leg. . . . but then another soldier spotted him and gave chase to break the distance and attemnpt to capture him alive.  The two soon lost sight of him.  In their separate accounts given later, they said Maitatsine had to be using some supernatural power in his flight along the canal, he was not running at the pace of a sprinter but almost triple the speed and for a man mortally wounded in the leg it was beyond logic to explain how he made it that fast and covered that much distance as he did in such a little time.  They foillowed the blood trail and is how they found him already slumped dead.   

A search of the compound revealed two deep wells, no water but filled to the top with severed human heads.  Some were fresh. . . just slaughtered that morning.  These were the people that had dissapeared and not found. . . . the ones that went in but never came back out,    The number in the wells alone was over 1000, not counting numerous people killed on the streets over a month period.  It was revealed that he was using human blood for supernatural powers for himself and for other pwople who came to seek his help to get rich, or get women or power. .

Aside from the bloody comical stuff (eg "an all terrain apc, the type that flattens anything and everything it steps on"), I bolded just a couple of contradictions in the crazy writeup above.
Would you be kind enough to reveal what elections were about to be held in the month maitatsine died? Whould you be so kind to reveal the mystery elections that were held when Buhari was head of state?
Did this psychadelic info also come from "first hand accounts" from family members in Kano? shocked
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by NegroNtns(m): 2:08am On Dec 29, 2011
As you are aware by now, I hardly if ever post links or sources, simply for the reason of the madness you just exhibited. I prefer to give keyword and let everyone do their own search for whatever their truth is.

So Rhino is correct and I was wrong. . . I threw pearls to the pig!!


You hardly have thorough political knowledge to understand the totality of what is occuring in this nation at this time. If asked to give an independent evaluation and define the root cause of the problem you will not be able to but your report will be filled merry-go-round grammar that lead no where. Yet, here you are trying to assume authoritative knowledge for why Boko Haram became what it is. You think because your tribe man is in presidency makes you an authority on political debate.

Yes, you are right. . . . this topic is a great fun and you should enjoy yourself in it. I do not go into granular examination of words and terms with political newbies like you. Invite those who taught you politics to come and continue this discussion with Negro. You hear me?
Re: Lies, Lies, Lies About Buhari And The 5 Years Of Maitatsine by Beaf: 2:16am On Dec 29, 2011
Negro_Ntns:

As you are aware by now, I hardly if ever post links or sources, simply for the reason of the madness you just exhibited. I prefer to give keyword and let everyone do their own search for whatever their truth is.

So Rhino is correct and I was wrong. . . I threw pearls to the pig!!


You hardly have thorough political knowledge to understand the totality of what is occuring in this nation at this time. If asked to give an independent evaluation and define the root cause of the problem you will not be able to but your report will be filled merry-go-round grammar that lead no where. Yet, here you are trying to assume authoritative knowledge for why Boko Haram became what it is. You think because your tribe man is in presidency makes you an authority on political debate.

Yes, you are right. . . . this topic is a great fun and you should enjoy yourself in it. I do not go into granular examination of words and terms with political newbies like you. Invite those who taught you politics to come and continue this discussion with Negro. You hear me?

The bolded really made me laugh!!! grin grin grin
You were caught lying. You don't post proof, because you lie.

You don't post links because of Beaf? Na wa o!!! You mean your integrity is lacking because of Beaf? Are you smoking sontin?
Laf go broke pikin back o!

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