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Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by Tamunor: 2:01am On Jan 08, 2012
Nigerians public are tired of fake promises and lies from President Goodluck Jonathan and the government in general, especially now that they are aware of the truth though President Goodluck Jonathan has succeeded in deceiving them in the past.
Nigerians demand immediate surrender form the politician to the military because we need to pray for the military takeover in Nigeria because the politicians are worst and do not care about the feelings of the common Nigerians, hence we have been deny fuel subsidy which is the only thing the poor Nigerians are benefiting as citizens from the government and Politicians keep deceiving us with fake info about the military administration.
Obasanjo era, part of the subsidy was initially removed and the pump price of Petrol increased from N11 to N65 to translate the gains from subsidy removal to the betterment of citizens but up-til now, Nothing was done with such fund and Nigerians are still suffering from the pain cause and now getting worst by Jonathan Badluck administration.
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by logica(m): 2:06am On Jan 08, 2012
Military? Was it not the military that started the whole mess? Matter of fact, are we not being "led" by the same "military men" who quickly shed the uniforms for agbada to become politicians?
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by Kobojunkie: 2:38am On Jan 08, 2012
Tamunor:

Nigerians public are tired of fake promises and lies from  President Goodluck Jonathan and the government in general, especially now that they are aware of the truth though President Goodluck Jonathan has succeeded in deceiving them in the past. 
Nigerians demand immediate surrender form the politician to the military because we need to pray for the military takeover in Nigeria because the politicians are worst and do not care about the feelings of the common Nigerians, hence we have been deny fuel subsidy which is the only thing the poor Nigerians are benefiting as citizens from the government and Politicians keep deceiving us with fake info about the military administration.
Obasanjo era, part of the subsidy was initially removed and the pump price of Petrol increased from N11 to N65  to translate the gains from subsidy removal to the betterment of citizens but up-til now, Nothing was done with such fund and Nigerians are still suffering from the pain
cause and now getting worst by Jonathan Badluck administration.

Thank you!
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by thoth: 11:32am On Jan 08, 2012
cap28:

Is it too late to stop them in their tracks? what can nigerians do to prevent this?
Considering the extent that their operations has been succesfull the only bet is to educate the masses as much as we can, they have more money than us,they have bought all the assumed leaders from Ohaneze to OPC, The goverment is a collosal puppet show, our aim should be to unite all nigerians and fight them, since they continously use our puppet leaders to divide us across cultural lines only EDUCATING the masses and helping them identify OUR COMMON ENEMY will UNITE us and fight together with one objective. Anything else will play us more into their hands.
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by Superego: 11:55am On Jan 08, 2012


[B]
IMF Forces African Nations to Remove Fuel Subsidies[/B]
http://www.newsrescue.com/2012/01/imf-forces-african-nations-to-remove-fuel-subsidies/
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by cap28: 12:55pm On Jan 08, 2012
thoth:

Considering the extent that their operations has been succesfull the only bet is to educate the masses as much as we can, they have more money than us,they have bought all the assumed leaders from Ohaneze to OPC, The goverment is a collosal puppet show, our aim should be to unite all nigerians and fight them, since they continously use our puppet leaders to divide us across cultural lines only EDUCATING the masses and helping them identify OUR COMMON ENEMY will UNITE us and fight together with one objective. Anything else will play us more into their hands.

I've been reading through your posts and i must say you are very very knowledgeable on international affairs and how they affect nigeria.

You sound like someone who has had a lot of exposure - you must feel a lot of frustration reading most of the posts on here.

The nigerian historian Chinweizu Ibekwe once stated that if no black african country is able to get its act together by the end of the 21st century black africans are going to suffer the same fate as the native americans and the aborigines of australia, new zealand and tasmania ie extermination  at the hands of europeans - here is what he says:

[b]The 20th century has been the most disastrous century, so far, for Black Africa. It was the century in which, under colonialism, Black Africa was subjected to culturecide at the hands of White Power. That culturecide destroyed our ability to resist the genocide that is now taking place. As a result, this 21st century is likely to see the physical extermination of Black Africans, unless those now under 30 organize and defeat the extermination campaign that white power has already unleashed on Black Africa. Therefore,

2] The problem of the 21st century is the problem of African Power – how to build it, and enough of it, to end the long era of our defeats and disasters in the race war, to prevent our extermination, and to ensure our dignity.

3] We should particularly note that Lugardism is a false framework, and these Lugardist states, Nigeria included, are the wrong foundation for building African Power[/size]

http://www.bnvillage.co.uk/news-politics-village/88291-africans-will-exterminated-21st-century.html

[/b]

do you agree with this?

Also africans have attempted to end the neo colonial exploitation and abuse by coming up with economic policies which will help grow their economies - have you heard of the lagos plan which was deviced by various african countries in the 1980s?  African countries tried to implement it but were blocked by america and europe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Plan_of_Action
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by thoth: 2:27pm On Jan 08, 2012
cap28:

I've been reading through your posts and i must say you are very very knowledgeable on international affairs and how they affect nigeria.

You sound like someone who has had a lot of exposure - you must feel a lot of frustration reading most of the posts on here.

The nigerian historian Chinweizu Ibekwe once stated that if no black african country is able to get its act together by the end of the 21st century black africans are going to suffer the same fate as the native americans and the aborigines of australia, new zealand and tasmania ie extermination  at the hands of europeans - here is what he says:

do you agree with this?

Also africans have attempted to end the neo colonial exploitation and abuse by coming up with economic policies which will help grow their economies - have you heard of the lagos plan which was deviced by various african countries in the 1980s?  African countries tried to implement it but were blocked by america and europe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Plan_of_Action


Don't let some posters frustrate you, keep in mind that some are working hard to achieve a goal that clearly opposes yours, just see it as a game.

Think of Africa as the Paradise that Europeans never had,sunshine,fertile lands,no earthquakes,tsunamies or typhoons and aboundance of natural resources.
There has been numerous attempts to exterminate Africans and some are still going on. We had transcripts of 1968,1969,1972-78,1981,1990-1992,1999,2005 of the Bilderberge Conference to show for a fact that the Ebola Virus was artificially created as a biological weapon and tested in Congo . Though we cannot infer from the transcripts the origin of AIDS, We know it has been used as an extermination tool particularly in Africa and the modes of insertion was clearly stated and debated on some of them-Zimbabwe'99 (1990-92,1999). There are other measures targeted at the African population but this is a delicate topic.
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by 989900: 2:34pm On Jan 08, 2012
IMF is no respectable body, even the head of IMF, DSK was arrested in NY for r@p.e charges and that's not the first time he's been indicted for such.
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by thoth: 3:08pm On Jan 08, 2012
cap28:

Also africans have attempted to end the neo colonial exploitation and abuse by coming up with economic policies which will help grow their economies - have you heard of the lagos plan which was deviced by various african countries in the 1980s?  African countries tried to implement it but were blocked by america and europe:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagos_Plan_of_Action


]
Comunism failed not because it is inherently bad but because not enough countries adopted it, likewise many continental and regional economic policies failed because  many of those leaders are puppets and will always undermine the efforts of others.
Many African leaders stood by and left Ivory Coast to be invaded by French troops and Gbabo ousted. The somalians were attacked by the Ethiopians and Kenyans as a western proxy, Nigerian troops are used to terrorize and intimidate sudanese masses so that western corporations can exploit them. AU and OAU did nothing as Qaddafi was bombed.
I had a course in 2007 and that was where i heard that the "Ghana must go " saga was to pressure Mr Rawlings of Ghana to adopt US policies,now many Ghananians hates nigerians while the actual pepetrators remains in Ghana's good books.

I saw your posts and they are very encouraging .
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by cap28: 5:57pm On Jan 08, 2012
thoth:

Don't let some posters frustrate you, keep in mind that some are working hard to achieve a goal that clearly opposes yours, just see it as a game.

Think of Africa as the Paradise that Europeans never had,sunshine,fertile lands,no earthquakes,tsunamies or typhoons and aboundance of natural resources.
There has been numerous attempts to exterminate Africans and some are still going on. We had transcripts of 1968,1969,1972-78,1981,1990-1992,1999,2005 of the Bilderberge Conference to show for a fact that the Ebola Virus was artificially created as a biological weapon and tested in Congo . Though we cannot infer from the transcripts the origin of AIDS, We know it has been used as an extermination tool particularly in Africa and the modes of insertion was clearly stated and debated on some of them-Zimbabwe'99 (1990-92,1999). There are other measures targeted at the African population but this is a delicate topic.


have you read NSSM 200 by former US National security advisor (during Nixon's tenure) Henry Kissinger?

He details in that memo various methods that can be used to cull the population of various third world nations that are considered a threat to america's national security - nigeria is one of the ones listed. this report was drafted in 1974 and is official US foreign policy.
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by cap28: 6:02pm On Jan 08, 2012
thoth:

]
Comunism failed not because it is inherently bad but because not enough countries adopted it, likewise many continental and regional economic policies failed because  many of those leaders are puppets and will always undermine the efforts of others.
Many African leaders stood by and left Ivory Coast to be invaded by French troops and Gbabo ousted. The somalians were attacked by the Ethiopians and Kenyans as a western proxy, Nigerian troops are used to terrorize and intimidate sudanese masses so that western corporations can exploit them. AU and OAU did nothing as Qaddafi was bombed.
I had a course in 2007 and that was where i heard that the "Ghana must go " saga was to pressure Mr Rawlings of Ghana to adopt US policies,now many Ghananians hates nigerians while the actual pepetrators remains in Ghana's good books.

I saw your posts and they are very encouraging .

thanks thoth - your posts reassure me that im not going crazy.

do you think nigerians will ever get to the point of being able to do this?:


[flash=300,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VXP0FnTwZE&feature/related[/flash]

and if they do - will the nigerian govt use water canons or live ammunition?
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by thoth: 6:20pm On Jan 08, 2012
cap28:

thanks thoth - your posts reassure me that im not going crazy.

do you think nigerians will ever get to the point of being able to do this?:


[flash=300,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VXP0FnTwZE&feature/related[/flash]

and if they do - will the nigerian govt use water canons or live ammunition?



I think the masses should be careful because they would use any means neccesary to contain the protest, i don't think the police is meant to hurt anybody but if the protest becomes massive it might result in more casualties.
A bomb blast in one or two of the protest zones south of the country will do the trick,though i hope they never need to go such extremes.
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by Tamunor: 11:43am On Jan 09, 2012
[b]Nigerian Government are always found of fake promises and we have many reason not to trust this government
The same President Goodluck Jonathan that announce the immediate cuts in foreign trips to the barest minimum few hours ago is already in south Africa to celebrate with ANC with a very large entourage like somebody going for a rally but only to have fun in here another country,
what kind of man or nonchalant attitude leader leaves his house on fire and goes to the neighbor's house to celebrate a birthday party.
[/b]
angry
Re: What Exactly Will Western Countries/imf Gain From Fuel Subsidy Removal? by revolt(m): 4:08pm On Jan 09, 2012
i agree we must maintain control of our oil industry but the question is will tribalism nepotism n federal xter allow the real technocrats handle refineries in nigeria. if no then i support foreign influence wif our govt to serve as watch dogs against excesses

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