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Creation Or Evolution? by alanto(op): 10:47am On Sep 21, 2025
Everyday scientists discover biblical archaeological evidence, other time it's human fossil that confirms human evolve from APES.

All these have me wondering; what exactly are we supposed to believe?

Eve or Lucy?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by CodeTemplarr: 10:50am On Sep 21, 2025
Evolved alongside thee apes and not from themmm
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by budaatum: 12:18pm On Sep 21, 2025
alanto:
All these have me wondering; what exactly are we supposed to believe?

Eve or Lucy?
You are not expected to believe. You are supposed to ask and knock and seek with all your heart and soul and mind and being for understanding.

https://www.nairaland.com/4923036/learn-reason-critically

https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101

https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass#106610434
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by LordReed(m): 12:56pm On Sep 21, 2025
alanto:
Everyday scientists discover biblical archaeological evidence, other time it's human fossil that confirms human evolve from APES.

All these have me wondering; what exactly are we supposed to believe?

Eve or Lucy?
All the real archaeological findings that match the Bible are some of the most mundane findings. None of them confirm the existence of a garden of Eden or the Adam and Eve story.

The good thing about evolution is you don't have to believe it, it operates whether you believe or not. Nor will you be judged and sent to everlasting punishment because you don't believe it.

You can read and understand the theory for yourself.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:02pm On Sep 21, 2025
LordReed:
All the real archaeological findings that match the Bible are some of the most mundane findings. None of them confirm the existence of a garden of Eden or the Adam and Eve story.

The good thing about evolution is you don't have to believe it, it operates whether you believe or not. Nor will you be judged and sent to everlasting punishment because you don't believe it.

You can read and understand the theory for yourself.
And evolution is based on creation because things do not evolve by themselves
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Gabrielshow24: 3:25pm On Sep 21, 2025
Dtruthspeaker:
And evolution is based on creation because things do not evolve by themselves
If I recall correctly, he accepts microevolution but, along with his brothers—most notably Jaephoenix—has been unable to substantiate macroevolution😅.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Dtruthspeaker: 6:19am On Sep 22, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
If I recall correctly, he accepts microevolution but, along with his brothers—most notably Jaephoenix—has been unable to substantiate macroevolution😅.
Don't mind them.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by LordReed(m): 7:38am On Sep 22, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
If I recall correctly, he accepts microevolution but, along with his brothers—most notably Jaephoenix—has been unable to substantiate macroevolution😅.
We have repeatedly provided the evidence unlike you. Meanwhile if you are looking for a magic show evolution is not it.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Gabrielshow24: 10:43am On Sep 22, 2025
LordReed:
We have repeatedly provided the evidence unlike you. Meanwhile if you are looking for a magic show evolution is not it.
For micro, I believe 🥱. As for macro, na da🤕.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by LordReed(m): 11:54am On Sep 22, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
For micro, I believe 🥱. As for macro, na da🤕.
Tell me the difference between micro and macro evolution.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 12:02pm On Sep 22, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
For micro, I believe 🥱. As for macro, na da🤕.
Evolution is real. Both micro and macro. Know this and know peace.
There are simply aspects that are as yet unexplained even by its very principles, and for me, I generally think are suggestive of another element simultaneously at play. What that element is, I dont know.
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Re: Creation Or Evolution? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:47pm On Sep 22, 2025
alanto:
Everyday scientists discover biblical archaeological evidence, other time it's human fossil that confirms human evolve from APES.

All these have me wondering; what exactly are we supposed to believe?

Eve or Lucy?
The word BELIEVE connotes TRUST so it'll make sense to be certain of what you intend to trust but how can you have trust in what you can't visibly verify how it happened?

The Bible defines Faith as the assured expectations of things hoped for the evident demonstration of reality though not seen. Hebrews 11:1

This means one who has faith can explain why he believes and demonstrate it for everyone to see what he is saying even though no one can see it's beginning.

Evolutionists only say things that's of no practical benefits to mankind rather it's putting humans in more trouble while Creationists though are difficult to identify in the midst of thousands claiming they are Creationists but if you engage real Creationists you will be happy to be alive!
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 5:48pm On Sep 22, 2025
CodeTemplarr:
Evolved alongside thee apes and not from themmm
Your evolution people do not agree that modern man evolved alongside the apes.

Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 5:50pm On Sep 22, 2025
budaatum:
You are not expected to believe. You are supposed to ask and knock and seek with all your heart and soul and mind and being for understanding.

https://www.nairaland.com/4923036/learn-reason-critically

https://www.nairaland.com/5238668/evolution-101

https://www.nairaland.com/6795272/reeves-pass#106610434
Your pictures on your second link seem to indicate that humans evolve from apes.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by budaatum: 5:54pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Your pictures on your second link seem to indicate that humans evolve from apes.
That's why you should study much instead of just watching pictures or reading only one book.

Humans did not evolve from the apes alive today; instead, humans and modern apes (like chimpanzees and gorillas) share a common ape-like ancestor that lived millions of years ago.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:59pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Your evolution people do not agree that modern man evolved alongside the apes.
Let them continue to deceive themselves whether Creationists or Evolutionists both believe what they never saw how it really happened so the only difference is while one can makes its adherents happy and appreciate life the other makes its adherents feel worthless and wish they never existed!
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:01pm On Sep 22, 2025
DeepSight:
Evolution is real. Both micro and macro. Know this and know peace.
There are simply aspects that are as yet unexplained even by its very principles, and for me, I generally think are suggestive of another element simultaneously at play. What that element is, I dont know.
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is there an example of macro evolution that you've seen in present times?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:02pm On Sep 22, 2025
budaatum:
That's why you should study much instead of just watching pictures or reading only one book.

Humans did not evolve from the apes alive today; instead, humans and modern apes (like chimpanzees and gorillas) share a common ape-like ancestor that lived millions of years ago.
I thought you were the evolution teacher na....so your pictorial illustrations are actually deceptive?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by budaatum: 6:11pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
I thought you were the evolution teacher na....so your pictorial illustrations are actually deceptive?
Teaching does not mean I must open your head and put knowledge in your brain. You still need to use your own senses so you may learn, and I have full faith in your capabilities to not be lazy and put the effort in.

Do let me know how you get on please.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 6:13pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
is there an example of macro evolution that you've seen in present times?
I am sure you cannot mean one I have watched happening with my eyes in my lifetime.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:17pm On Sep 22, 2025
DeepSight:
I am sure you cannot mean one I have watched happening with my eyes in my lifetime.
Does your question suggest that evolution whether micro or macro has stopped?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by budaatum: 6:18pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
is there an example of macro evolution that you've seen in present times?
Yes. Human beings. And since macroevolution takes place over millions of years, your question shows the limits of your learning.

What you doing tomorrow? Would you like to come to the British Museum so we can look at the evidence together?

Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 6:19pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Does your question suggest that evolution whether micro or macro has stopped?
No one sees macro evolution in one lifetime directly. And thats where you want to go. Please dont do that to yourself.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:20pm On Sep 22, 2025
budaatum:
Teaching does not mean I must open your head and put knowledge in your brain. You still need to use your own senses so you may learn, and I have full faith in your capabilities to not be lazy and put the effort in.

Do let me know how you get on please.
Does teaching not also mean not using deceptive pictorial illustrations as a way to buttrress a point?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 6:21pm On Sep 22, 2025
budaatum:
Yes. Human beings. And since macroevolution takes place over millions of years, your question shows the limits of your learning.

What you doing tomorrow? Would you like to come to the British Museum so we can look at the evidence together?
I dont think that would help if he doesnt understand that it is observation over millions of years.

Also beware that not even the evidence in your picture is beyond question, in fact some of the skulls there will be an argument against you.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:22pm On Sep 22, 2025
DeepSight:
No one sees macro evolution in one lifetime directly. And thats where you want to go. Please dont do that to yourself.
So since you've not seen it in your lifetime, how can you say for certain that they exist?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 6:22pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So since you've not seen it in your lifetime, how can you say for certain that they exist?
There we go.
So you don't know what macro evolution is.

Budaatum, can you see why a visit to the museum will be useless?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:23pm On Sep 22, 2025
DeepSight:
There we go.
So you don't know what macro evolution is.

Budaatum, can you see why a visit to the museum will be useless?
Explain what macro evolution is.
Are you quoting the same budaatum who uses deceptive pictorial illustrations? Did he use those pictures because he did not visit the museums?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:25pm On Sep 22, 2025
DeepSight:
There we go.
So you don't know what macro evolution is.

Budaatum, can you see why a visit to the museum will be useless?
Are you quoting the same budaatum who uses deceptive pictorial illustrations? Did he use those pictures because he did not visit the museums?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 6:27pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Explain what macro evolution is.
In brief, the evolution which brings about changes of species and new species over exceedingly large expanses of time.

Let's say, how a fish becomes an amphibian. How that becomes a reptile. How that becomes a bird.

I am just making it simple.
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by Truthseeker10: 6:28pm On Sep 22, 2025
DeepSight:
I dont think that would help if he doesnt understand that it is observation over millions of years.

Also beware that not even the evidence in your picture is beyond question, in fact some of the skulls there will be an argument against you.
So are you saying that there are no observable macro evolution that has been taking place from the distant past till today?
Re: Creation Or Evolution? by DeepSight(m): 6:29pm On Sep 22, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Are you quoting the same budaatum who uses deceptive pictorial illustrations? Did he use those pictures because he did not visit the museums?
I have no idea who he is, where he is or where he has visited.

The point was about your understanding of macro evolution. . .
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