Fhemmmy:

[b]Michelle Obama is the First lady of a president that is busy working and making things happen, while GEJ is like nobody, a figure head that has no clue on how to run a nation . . .  Tell me his achievement since assuming power, just one.[/b]

Mogidi:

When was the last time you read an American newspaper? Obama is as castigated as GEJ is. Reading American newspaper online one would think Obama hasn't lifted a finger since he took office. GEJ and Obama are victims of cicumstances, both came at the wrong time. Obama like GEJ didnt create the present turmoil in world economy.

GAR3TH:

Not really sure why you are Comparing Michelle obama to GEJ on this issue. Fact remains that the USA political system is more advance and has more pressure than Nigeria. Can you compare this to this. For god sake we are still promising and debating of the simple building of common road, while the Americans are debating about the real issues. Like I said, Nigeria's current political climate is not worthy of any aides at all, what so hard about building the basic foundations of a country. When we get pass introduction to government class 101 then we can start appointing aides to advise us.

alj harem:

Hmmm funkymallam, I see your comparison but these are things you need to consider

1. The average senator in Nigeria is collecting more money than Obama.

2. Mrs Obama is technically much more busy. Not to down grade Nigeria or anything but her presence in another country is more important and GEJ in that same country.

3. Also she is a role model not only to women in America but all over the world because America is one of the most diverse country in the world, America is a world power both economically and militarily.  

4. We need to be critical here, the money her country has is much more than Nigeria thus there is no bases of comparison.

5. The money spent in the USA government is well managed unlike the current admistration that spends money on 13 million dollar just on Gold. The period Clinton bought 4 tommy hilfiger suits, he was queried, can we as Nigerian even ask why GEJ has not told us why the money of the subsidy jumped up and why he removed it when we still are on 2011 budget without people criticizing us. Lets be honest with ourselves things are more transparent there than here and that is why even their senator can take 50 aids and there should be no problem because the life there is far better than the life in Nigeria when the minimum wage is 18,000 naira while in america is 185,000 naira.

There is no bases of comparison

Kobojunkie:

Both came at the wrong time? Really? they , both knowing the situation as it was at the time, campaign that they were definitely the write people for the situation. So how can they have come at the wrong time?

Worse, the last 12 years has not been right time for Jonathan Goodluck? Then when would have been a good time? When there was no problem of any kind to deal with . . . i,e when other, more proficient and capable leaders had solved all the problems?

Mogidi:

To me both are doing a brilliant job compared to what would have happened if Mc Cain and Buhari got in.

Mogidi:

Please tell me when in the past 50yrs world economy has been this bad?

jmaine:

I can see the bosom trap laced in the thread caught some game . .and here they are struggling to escape . . . Funkymallam. . .see as you don catch bush meat plenty

Funkymallam:

Bros hw far? These guys r just insincere, [size=16pt]lets see hw they prove d more important role Michelle plays compares to a president. If not slavery mentality, worshipping d west[/size].

Kobojunkie:

HUH??  
Both are doing a brilliant job compared to what people who NEVER GOT THE JOB would have done? Are you for real?

Just so you know . . .  the complaint in America is largely that much of what Obama is doing is what McCain promised to do on the most part. From his handling of Iraq, and Afghanistan, to the Bail out . . .  All compare to what McCain promised during his campaign. Just saying . . .  

Now back to Nigeria, again, Jonathan KNOWING FULLY WELL the state of the economy and that of the world, took the job. So what does it matter what the state of the economy is when he told us he was the right person in this economy for the job?

And he has been in Government office for 12 the last 12 years  . . . the first 6 were when the world economy was mostly sound and yet he accomplished nothing even then. So, again, when is this good time you speak of?

Mogidi:

To say if those two had got the job they would have done better is purely academic. GEJ did not create the dismal economic climate we're in. Greece lost their govt so did Italy, the European union is about to implode. What magic wand were you expecting GEJ to wave?

Mogidi:

The bolded above is childish and I wish you can re-read your post. How can the complaint about Obama be because he's doing what McCain would have done. I thought the complaint in America was to do with foreclosures and high unemployment?


You must be leaving in a different planet if you don't know that the world economic recession is the worst since world war2.

Mogidi:
Even if GEJ and Obama were to incorporate the best economic policy, a lot still depend on other countries because every country is inter dependent on another.
He was part of govt but even you will aknowledge that he hasn't been ruling for 12yrs.

Funkymallam:

Hmmm. So u guys mean the president of Nigeria ia a 'noboday'?
That a ceremonial first lady is more busy than d leader of d most populous black nation?
That a first lady deserves to have aides more than Our president?


Its terrible hw some of us think, u want to tell me that Chad, Niger, Ghana, Senegal and other dnt have aides for their president?
This is pure hate and very sentimental.

Again, read that link again and see hw many other first ladies in her post had. Most had just one aide, and does that mean they were never in office?
Pls, learn to criticize across boad and stop being sentimental.

werepeLeri:

The most silly thing an adult of sound mind will say - "Michele Obama is technically more important in America than GEJ is in Nigeria"

Hmmm - Silly people have a way to show themselves.

Funkymallam:

Bros hw far? These guys r just insincere, lets see hw they prove d more important role Michelle plays compares to a president. If not slavery mentality, worshipping d west.

alj harem:

There is no slave mentality there, what is it is what is it

"Cut your coat according to your size" is what they say not "cut your coat according to others sizes"


Nigeria is most populous black nation in the world, and so what ? What have we achieved with that population other than terrorism and militancy, killer roads, primary school standard federal universities, fraud, tribalism , etc

Until we start telling ourselves the truth and acting appropriately then we are not going anywhere.

Take this analogy for example

As a father that has your children school fees pending, would you use the little saving you have for aids or would you invest in your children's future.

Again my friend there is no bases of comparison. Nigeria needs to get off the high horse and humble herself. Ghana, Niger are far better than Nigeria interms of standard of leaving with low population and without oil.

the american budget for defence alone is far out gun the Nigeria entire budget.

Kobojunkie:

This has absolutely nothing to do with Greece or Europe. The economies there do not directly affect growth in Nigeria, This is evident from the fact that Nigeria has been recording record growth in the last 2 or so years, while during the same period, much of Europe has been experiencing really hard times. So please let us focus a bit more(turning off anime).

I don't think your comparision there is academic as you claim considering
a. Both men you compare the sitting presidents to have never helpd the office in question
b. And even as leaders, they continue to have better records than those you elected (well, in the case of Obama, if we are to go with what a lot of the critics say).

Please focus! Jonathan, knowing fully well, the state of the economy(He did not come in BLIND . . . he was at the top when the global economic problems became obvious), came out and declared himself the best candidate for the economic climate as it was. Why do you keep ignoring this?

And honestly, we are not here to debate America and what your personal opinion is on the country. This thread on something entirely different . . . I am trying to understand how you even came up with the post I initially responded to cause that is what I consider OUT OF THIS WORLD . . . OUT OF WHACK!!

Again, Jonathan has been in high office -- leadership for 12 straight years. No achievement.

One of the qualities of a good leader is that he/she does not wait until he is declared NUMBER ONE before he moves to change lead.

Serious leaders don't wait till they are made CEOS before they start to lead right where they are. This man has been in high position for 12 years . . . and still no single achievement to his name. Why do you still suggest he is doing an outstanding job when even when interviewed back on December 23rd, he openly admitted he still had none.

muyoto:

would it not make more sense to compare the number of aides GEJ has with that of less developed country one with a similar GDP?

Funkymallam:

And ur point is that Nigeria is damn poor that we cant maintain common 24 aides for our president. Smh

here again, Barack Obama have 454 aides. . . .

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/obama-white-house-salaries-soar.html

Let the battle continue.

werepeLeri:

Why you people involve in this kind of blind argument that no one beyond here reads, still baffles me.

Mogidi:

To say if those two had got the job they would have done better is purely academic. GEJ did not create the dismal economic climate we're in. Greece lost their govt so did Italy, the European union is about to implode. What magic wand were you expecting GEJ to wave?