Former Pastor Says ''There will be no rapture and Jesus Is Not Coming Back!''

- Christian pastor turned Afrikan Spiritualist, Dr Ray Hagins, Spills the Beans on the European faith!


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the false prophets of the end times . if una like make una believe fake bast-ard pastor ray hagins.

huh?

wuuut

Only a Conspiracy theorist will make a fuss out of this 'nothing.'

Christianity is not a European faith btw.

It is a middle eastern faith that later became the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Europeans sef, many of them today are atheists or agnostics. . .

ekt_bear:

Christianity is not a European faith btw.

True !!

ekt-bear said

Christianity is not a European faith btw.

It is a middle eastern faith that later became the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Christianity was NEVER a middle eastern faith. Never was, and still is not!!!!

It was ALL invented in Rome (Europe). The 'gospels' were written by Europeans, not by anybody in the middle east.

Rossikk:

ekt-bear said

Christianity was NEVER a middle eastern faith. Never was, and still is not!!!!

It was ALL invented in Rome (Europe). The 'gospels' were written by Europeans, not by anybody in the middle east.

Then you have no clue about history !!!

frosbel said:

Then you have no clue about history !!!

NO. YOU have no clue about history. Oya. Show us the proof that christianity started in the middle east using  information and evidence from secular history.

before you ask for info,state your allegiance.

^^I have no ''allegiance''. Neither am I an atheist.




HOW THE WHITE MAN CREATED JESUS, BY FORMER PASTOR, DR RAY HAGINS



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ok.

^^You're welcome.

Rossikk:

^^I have no ''allegiance''. Neither am I an atheist.




HOW THE WHITE MAN CREATED JESUS, BY FORMER PASTOR, DR RAY HAGINS



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Don't take it personal, but if you believe the above, you need help !!

ekt_bear:

Christianity is not a European faith btw.

It is a middle eastern faith that later became the official religion of the Roman Empire.

Europeans sef, many of them today are atheists or agnostics. . .

WRONG!!! Modern Christianity is european.

Moved

its either Ray hagins is seeking attention or he has been initiated into esoteric mysteries. I also won't bother arguing with the OP,cos he's pitching for arguments. You can ignore God,but I can't because he is real and working out things in a way that's so wonderful.

He may say so ,but Jesus is coming anyhow

lari03 said

its either Ray hagins is seeking attention or he has been initiated into esoteric mysteries. I also won't bother arguing with the OP,cos he's pitching for arguments. You can ignore God,but I can't because he is real and working out things in a way that's so wonderful.

Nothing is more shameful than an African equating God with christianity. Implying that rejecting the western religion called christianity amounts to a rejection of God.

Colonised DUNDERHEAD. Did you ancestors not know God? Do you even know anything about the religious history of your people? Thoughtless waste of space with no common sense.

Even if the white man came and gave you his religion, is that enough to turn you into a ST.UPID, thoughtless dunce?

frosbel said

Don't take it personal, but if you believe the above, you need help !!

Why not tell us what YOU believe?

The third rate fairytales in the bible?

YOU are the one who needs help. Too bad you're too thick to accept it.

Where many people just like this man miss it is the inability to differentiate between the rapture and second coming. They are not the same event. The rapture of the church takes place before the tribulation . And the second coming of Christ to the earth for the Jews takes place 7 years after the rapture. The two have been used interchangeably by many people . Couple with the fact that the old testament did not see rapture. Because it seem not to be in the original timeline.

What is rapture ? The taking up of the church. Israel still blind about their Messsiah

Between the rapture and second coming ,Israel as a nation would have come to accept Christ as messiah.

What is second coming? Christ and the church coming to save and fight for Israel . Christ will come to the earth and establish his kingdom for 1,000 years and we will reign with him. Satan will be imprisoned .

After 1,000 years Satan will be released , he will try another rebellion , he finally be put down and the final white thrown judgment will take place.

Ray HAGIN IS WRONG.

Acts 1:9
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
Acts 1:10
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
Acts 1:11
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

@newmi

That coming back is not the rapture. But it refers to the second coming after tribulation. That coming back is coming back for Israel . T

We all know he's saying the truth so why all the fussing? I still can't understand how a normal human being will believe in something 100% all because a white man (who the black man feels inferior to) imported his religion to his land and so therefore, it is unquestionable because the "holy book" (that is unverified,vague and bogus) says so.

***It beats my imagination***

harakiri:

We all know he's saying the truth so why all the fussing? .

Who are the we? Speak for yourself. If you know the word of God enough you know he is speaking error.

@Joagbaje: « #19 on: Yesterday at 07:19:18 PM »
[Quote]He may say so ,but Jesus is coming anyhow[/Quote]So he has not returned from the time he was lifted up? but he promised he will come back while the disciples were still alive, at least one of the 12?

The below are the things I expected to happen to no one else except to the disciples, by Jesus and the Another Comforter;

1. The Another comforter coming to correct the disciples. To lead them to all truth. To tell and or show them things Jesus didnt. To remind them of
truth Jesus must have said, correcting them on lies that may have crept in into the ministry of Jesus after he left. Glorifying Jesus. These were
to come from the "What he hears from God he shall speak" defined or confined process of the duties of the Another Comforter. We do know that
there is no where Jesus said the another comforter which is the teacher a spirit from God "the holy spirit" will affect anyone else except the 12
disciples or the 11 remaining after Iscariot killed himself, while Jesus had been murdered.

2. Jesus was to return with at least 1 or more of the disciples alive.


My question is this, did either happen exactly as it was written in the Bible? If not why?

If Jesus is expected in the future, is that not a failed prophesy, even now?

If Jesus arrives today, he will be playing to the ekiti gallery of statement that no one is ever late when they say "OYA HO" after much much overdue return.

I wonder if Jesus will be accepted to return in a nick of time, in the future, what shall we say of a mere 610 years when it comes to Muhammad [as]?
Joe. Ronu soro no ko to dami lowun.

Joagbaje:

Where many people just like this man miss it is the inability to differentiate between the rapture and second coming. They are not the same event. The rapture of the church takes place before the tribulation . And the second coming of Christ to the earth for the Jews takes place 7 years after the rapture. The two have been used interchangeably by many people . Couple with the fact that the old testament did not see rapture. Because it seem not to be in the original timeline.

What is rapture ? The taking up of the church. Israel still blind about their Messsiah

Between the rapture and second coming ,Israel as a nation would have come to accept Christ as messiah.

What is second coming? Christ and the church coming to save and fight for Israel . Christ will come to the earth and establish his kingdom for 1,000 years and we will reign with him. Satan will be imprisoned .

After 1,000 years Satan will be released , he will try another rebellion , he finally be put down and the final white thrown judgment will take place.

Ray HAGIN IS WRONG.

These are all bullshi.t written from your imagination. Isreal does not believe in Jesus christ hence from your biblical believe, should be destined for hell fire. Heaven and Hell doesn't exist, so stop making statement you have no objective proof about order than some ancient story book written by primitive illiterates.

^^^^

2good:

These are all bullshi.t written from your imagination. Isreal does not believe in Jesus christ hence from your biblical believe, should be destined for hell fire. Heaven and Hell doesn't exist, so stop making statement you have no objective proof about order than some ancient story book written by primitive illiterates.

They are not from imagination but from the bible. Try study it

Sweetnecta:

@Joagbaje: « #19 on: Yesterday at 07:19:18 PM »So he has not returned from the time he was lifted up? but he promised he will come back while the disciples were still alive, at least one of the 12?

He didn't say so. You need to understand prophecy interpretation. It's like dream some times hard to explain. His prophecy spanned over several issues and not one invent . There are laws of interpretations such as laws of double reference .

Destruction of the temple, and future tribulation of thousands of years apart are not in the same timeframe. That should tell you something.

Joe. Ronu soro no ko to dami lowun.

I "ronud" well well

Joagbaje:

Who are the we? Speak for yourself. If you know the word of God enough you know he is speaking error.

You are a real piece of work. So your "god" now speaks in "error"? Where in the "holy bible" is it depicted that the almighty god speaks in error? Isn't it the same bible that clearly states that no word of his will pass away until all has come to pass? Isn't it that same bible that frowns on it's mis-interpretation?

Guy, you shouldn't have bothered replying me coz you should know i am not the type you can sway left and right like the typical SHEEPLE who flood your church and keep the dollars and naira following in your numerous bank accounts. . .

Back to the issue. . .

What is this "word of god" that you claim to know so much about? Is it not that same "holy book" that was imported to African soil by the same people who not only enslaved our people but also brought guns,alcohol and all sorts of vices. Is it not the same "word of god"? Concerning the same bible, you cannot prove ONE SINGLE CLAIM and you are here talking trash. Pastor Joseph Agbaje, abeg no make me vex oooo! Na new year be dis. Keep your deception to all those unrepentant mugus who are forever cursed to keep you rich but do not for one second think you can cross boundaries and decieve those who know all about the "business of god".

Nuff