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| Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Ogbonaikenna(m): 11:23am On Feb 12, 2012 |
US Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assassinate US Ambassador To Nigeria, Terence McCulley Over MOU–Reports 9 February 2012 New York [RR] ABUJA–Credible communication Reaching Republic Reporters said that the Islamic terrorist group, the Boko Haram has made it clear that its leadership is miffed at the so-called proposed memorandum of understanding [MOU] between Nigerian and the United States of America (USA) with respect to the crumbling security concerns posed by terrorist Islamic Fundamentalists, Boko Haram. According to multiple sources, Boko Haram leadership emphatically declared that it will assassinate US Ambassador to Nigeria, Terence McCulley, if it signs so called Memorandum of Understanding (MOU). The Jihadists’ hardliners said: “We will murder the US Ambassador if the MOU is signed”. “We know his house in Maitaima [in Abuja]. We know his vehicle and the time he leaves his house and the time he returns” stated the one of the leaders with the Islamic group who continued to elaborate that Nigeria will be making a grave error if it joins America in an “unholy marriage” to fight “our men”. 247RReporters said that “As part of the USA – Nigeria Binational commission, a working group drawn from the two nations met in Abuja January 23-24, 2012 “to find a way to bring peace to the north through both security and political responses and to work with the Nigerian government and others in the international community to promote greater economic development and long-term growth throughout northern Nigeria”. This is according to Victoria Nuland, Department Spokesperson, Office of the Spokesperson, Washington, DC. [PHOTO: US Ambassador to Nigeria, Terence McCulley] Sources added that Boko Haram insiders show that the office of the National Security Adviser [NSA] to the President have opened a line of communication with the leaders of the group – and have met with three top ranking members of the group”, but details of the meetings have not been made public. Other sources said, that the Top ranking of Boko Haram leadership were reported to have met with the NSA in Abuja recently. But these are just mere allegations as possibility of government officials leaking secret information or propaganda feelers to distract from her myriad difficulties it face across the country. Nigeria police, SSS and other intelligence community claimed last week that it arrested spokesman of the Boko Haram member only to have the spokesman surface to discredit Nigeria police, SSS and NIA as propaganda machines that lie at every turn. As it stands presently with these conflicting claims and counter-claims the general public live in fear and do not know exactly whom to believe Boko Haram or discredited government officials. With recent assassination threat emerging from Boko Haram Islamic Fundamentalists and their partners against the US Ambassador to Nigeria, US and Major European authorities secretly regrets siding with Federal Troops during the Nigeria/Biafra civil WAR, 1967 to 1970 that killed 3.5Million Biafrans because of the fast-spreading Islamic fundamentalism in Nigeria and elsewhere. Secret internal communication between EU and UN diplomats demonstrate that the United States is apprehensive of past actions against Biafra, which it now regrets. United States Russia, Britain and others supported Nigeria Federal Troops in Nigeria/Biafra hostility. Credible source knowledgeable with US-internal memos states that ‘US now regrets its support for Nigerian Federal troops in its face-out with Biafra in the 60s”, insider of internal US working relationship with Africa who spoke on a condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on sensitive security problem facing Nigeria, disclosed our insider source. source: republicreport.com |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Valon4ego(m): 1:57pm On Feb 12, 2012 |
Can you provide the full link to the news? |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 10:33pm On Feb 12, 2012 |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by sheyguy: 10:59pm On Feb 12, 2012 |
Ogbonaikenna: |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by stayreal: 11:46pm On Feb 12, 2012 |
During the war, many Americans that were aware of the war were disgusted with the West involvement with the Soviet Union in the war. It is the only conflict during the Cold War era in which the US, UK and Soviet Union were on the same side. The rise of Biafra would have changed Africa for the better in the long run, because many of these colonial nations would have been balkinized, creating better stability and better governance in Africa. Citizens will be able to hold their own people accountable much easier. It would make it harder for outsiders (West, Russia, China) to exploit Africa and use division against us. Look at Europe, every country is divided into its tribe and language unlike Africa. That is how real national building works, but many ignorant Nigerians dont care to see this. Instead they want to keep an artificial British creation together. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Valon4ego(m): 11:49pm On Feb 12, 2012 |
, So what are they going to do about it now?!?! |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Yeske2(m): 9:15am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Good to know the US is admitting failing Biafra but what is it going to do about it now? |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 11:00am On Feb 13, 2012 |
This is what some of us have long divined. It is not only US but other western Countries. We shall see in the near future what they want to do about it. They better do it fast, help facilitate and empower Biafra as a counterpoise to Islamic fundamentalists agenda to Africa as they have empowererd Israel as a counterpoise to Arabism and fundamentalism in the middle East or or else contend with a fundamentalist Africa as Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism aims to consume the continent and beyond. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 11:45am On Feb 13, 2012 |
OK2NV: Quite revealing. Contradicts Mark Anthony. It appears that the good Kennedy did lives after him. His evils are interred with his bones. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Okijajuju1(m): 11:55am On Feb 13, 2012 |
Once more, Ndigbo playing the victims and seeking attention. Republic reporters!! Who the Bleep' are they and what do they report?! Look at the shabby reporting style!! Let me show you how useless the news was; Ogbonaikenna: Even HINTS and BETTER LOVERS have reported useless news in a much better fashion than this. Please Ndigbos, lets move on beyond this Biafran thing, I am tired of playing victim. Nobody is even looking at our faces anymore. Even the Niger Delta has achieved a president before us because we are there crying and sulking in the background. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by PhysicsQED(m): 12:11pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
OK2NV: JFK died in 1963. He was far from the worst president, although he made some mistakes. On the issue of Biafra, the U.S. couldn't go against its most important ally (Britain) in the world at the time, so there was never even a question of the U.S. intervening once the U.K. had decided its course of action. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 12:14pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Okija_juju: Dont understand your point. The original news about BH threat on US ambassador was first reported by 247ureports not the republic and was all over Nairaland why are you criticising the republic? I guess its because you are bemused that the news disagrees with your appetite. If this were reported by say Newsweek or Times what would have been your reaction. In any case the news is not strange to some of us who study global trends and are able to forecast foreign policies of Nations. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Dainfamous: 12:17pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
They have seen the same people that they helped doing biafran war is now their worst enemy talk about eat the cake and have it, |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Dainfamous: 12:20pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
So that means if the next war start western powers will not aid them again  they have lost the trust for Nigeria as a country, |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Okijajuju1(m): 12:22pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
houvest: did you look at the highlights?! Even I could report this same news from the comfort of my toilet seat, with a laptop on my leg, a joint in my mouth and shi't coming out my anus. Says alot and no real sources to lay your hands on. It might as well be hearsay news from a beer palour filled with drunken retards/ |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 12:24pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
PhysicsQED: You are right about Kennedy. I suspect it was his vice Lyndon Johnson that was in power then. However I disagree that US could not go against her ally at the time. Probably wouldnt is better especially as they were bogged down with the war in Vietnam. It does not however stop them from regretting their action or inactions against an unjust war and genocide with the benefit of hindsight and unfolding world events. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 12:30pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Okija_juju: Yes you can always see what you want to see. I asked if this same report were credited to a western medium, would you still try to crucify the messenger and abandon the message. Since we may never know the credibility or otherwise of the medium, the question should be this: Is the news incredible in light of unfolding events? |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Bulldog(m): 12:49pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
<Yawns> it's all been predicted before in the bible so am not suprised. Call me a christian jerk but all i can say is that the US and co have helped in creating a monster that'll surely pull them down, it helped in empowering a brain washing machine(islam) much worse than the tele just for interim business partnership that yielded nothing but weapons, deception and islam fueled hatred. Regreting their past doesn't undo the done and igbos relying on their past (failed)heroism and their braveness is fighting the world with virtually nothing isn't gonna solve the current crises either but i know and am sure that God will surely avenge the blood of innocents massacred in northern nigeria and around the world all over by these jihadists. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by PhysicsQED(m): 12:51pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
houvest: Well, the U.S. and U.K. had a special relationship at that time and the British government actually expressed modest "moral support" for the Vietnam war (http://www.americansc.org.uk/Online/Wilsonjohnson.htm), although it didn't send troops. But there was really no pretext which the U.S. could use for interfering in a civil war in the U.K.'s former colony anyway, and there is nothing to suggest that the U.S. government would have taken military action. And if they had objections, they could have been raised, but they weren't. As for the Vietnam war, being "bogged down" with Vietnam wasn't really the issue. They simply deferred to Britain. U.S. diplomats even explicitly said that they were deferring to Britain as the country (Nigeria) was within their sphere of influence. The U.S. hasn't expressed regret for any of the actions that they actually did take in certain parts of the Middle East or South America. It's more than doubtful that the U.S. government would express regret over something that had nothing to do with them. As for whether a war is unjust or not, that often depends on what perspective one is looking at it from. [edited, "always" --> "often"] |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 1:15pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
PhysicsQED: Please read the report again. It never said that US has expressed regrets but this : With recent assassination threat emerging from Boko Haram Islamic Fundamentalists and their partners against the US Ambassador to Nigeria, US and Major European authorities secretly regrets siding with Federal Troops during the Nigeria/Biafra civil WAR, 1967 to 1970 that killed 3.5Million Biafrans because of the fast-spreading Islamic fundamentalism in Nigeria and elsewhere. Secret internal communication between EU and UN diplomats demonstrate that the United States is apprehensive of past actions against Biafra, which it now regrets. United States Russia, Britain and others supported Nigeria Federal Troops in Nigeria/Biafra hostility. Credible source knowledgeable with US-internal memos states that ‘US now regrets its support for Nigerian Federal troops in its face-out with Biafra in the 60s”, insider of internal US working relationship with Africa who spoke on a condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on sensitive security problem fac ing Nigeria, disclosed our insider source. As for US regretting its actions in the Middle East,what did they do there that they should regret? Do you regret doing something inself defence?I do not get your drift here. If you are referring to Bush's lies that got them into the second Iraqi war, then you should know that it has been thoroughly condemned in US and resulted in policy reversal there. All troops have been pulled out of Iraq. However US does not waste time to regret their mistakes, one of the things that make them great, eg http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/World/Story/A1Story20111009-304032.html, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/06/08/Obama-regrets-Afghan-civilian-losses/UPI-55691307568676/. Us fought a civil war because of the injustice of slavery and only nuked Japan as a last resort so why cant they regret their actions or inactions in not stopping the death of 3.5 million Biafrans especially with the threat of Islamic fundamentalism threatening them and the rest of Africa from Nigeria at present. Why the eager desire to deny this news as credible? |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by PhysicsQED(m): 2:17pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
houvest: Actually, my point was more that they don't regret those actions, not just that they don't express regret, so I should have stated that. But whether openly or secretly regretted, the point is that if there's nothing to suggest that there was ever any "secret" regret over affairs that they actually interfered in that had to do with the cold war (in the case of South America) and which they might actually have a reason to regret, there would be no reason to feel regret over issues that had nothing to do with them (Nigerian Civil War) and which they didn't involve themselves with. Anyway, assuming that an "Arewa Republic" had been created following a Biafran victory, America would still have an ambassador to that country, and Boko haram would instead be threatening to kill that ambassador. So either way a U.S. ambassador would be threatened. So the argument of this article doesn't even make sense. Secret internal communication between EU and UN diplomats demonstrate that the United States is apprehensive of past actions against Biafra, which it now regrets. United States Russia, Britain and others supported Nigeria Federal Troops in Nigeria/Biafra hostility. Credible source knowledgeable with US-internal memos states that ‘US now regrets its support for Nigerian Federal troops in its face-out with Biafra in the 60s”, insider of internal US working relationship with Africa who spoke on a condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on sensitive security problem facing Nigeria, disclosed our insider source. Yeah, my point is that this is a fabrication, because there's nothing to suggest that any U.S. government has ever expressed "secret regret" over actions during the cold war which they actually could have a possible reason to regret, so it would make no sense for any U.S. government officials to express regret over something (Nigerian Civil War) which they had no stake in and no participation in. As for US regretting its actions in the Middle East,what did they do there that they should regret? Do you regret doing something inself defence?I do not get your drift here. If you are referring to Bush's lies that got them into the second Iraqi war, then you should know that it has been thoroughly condemned in US and resulted in policy reversal there. All troops have been pulled out of Iraq. I was actually referring to Iran (Mossadegh, 1953), Iraq (being pals with Saddam Hussein when he was massacring Kurds, up until he invaded Kuwait), Afghanistan (looking the other way with respect to the drug trade when deciding which specific people to support), and Israel (being so overly friendly and chummy with Israel that the current government there is bold enough to continue allowing the building of more Israeli settlements on future Palestinian land). However US does not waste time to regret their mistakes, one of the things that make them great, eg http://www.asiaone.com/News/AsiaOne%2BNews/World/Story/A1Story20111009-304032.html, http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/06/08/Obama-regrets-Afghan-civilian-losses/UPI-55691307568676/. That's quite a different thing than expressing regret over a political decision to side with a certain side in a civil war in a foreign country. America chose to involve itself in a war in Afghanistan against the Taliban so it makes sense to express regret over civilians killed by America in the process of prosecuting a war against the Taliban. Us fought a civil war because of the injustice of slavery and only nuked Japan as a last resort so why cant they regret their actions or inactions in not stopping the death of 3.5 million Biafrans especially with the threat of Islamic fundamentalism threatening them and the rest of Africa from Nigeria at present. Why the eager desire to deny this news as credible? The U.S. government has absolutely no reason whatsoever to feel any regret or express any regret over nuking Japan. The Empire of Japan was an extremely evil country during WW2 (see for example experimenting on humans: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731), and they were prepared to fight to the last man (not literally of course, but you get the idea) when invaded. That would have cost more American and Japanese lives than trying to end the war quickly with a nuke. They actually saved many more Japanese lives by taking the decision to nuke them. Islamic fundamentalism and Islam are separate issues entirely from the Nigerian Civil War which was not religious, but ethnic and political, and the way the author of the article tried to connect them shows that he's possibly confused. And during the Nigerian civil war, the Hausa and the Fulani were probably outnumbered in terms of participation by their non-Muslim "Middle Belt" allies anyway. Also, the U.S. is on good terms with Turkey (majority Muslim country) and several other majority Muslim countries around the world (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.), including some in Africa. By the way, it's not "desire" to deny it as being credible news, I just see the entire spin and argument being made in the article as illogical and nonsensical based on known facts. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Nobody: 2:32pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Bulldog: You sound crazy! |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by PhysicsQED(m): 2:57pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
@ houvest Interestingly enough, after a bit of searching, I did find one instance where a (Democrat) U.S. president openly expressed regret over siding with a certain Greek regime during the cold war: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1298&dat=19991121&id=yuwyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=mAgGAAAAIBAJ&pg=5353,5100677 http://www.nytimes.com/1999/11/21/world/clinton-tries-to-subdue-greeks-anger-at-america.html |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Okijajuju1(m): 3:11pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Anyways, I have heard information from a Credible, reliable source close to the white house that says that this NEWS article is a lie. The Americans have bigger things to be apologetic about and the least of which is Biafra (for which they did nothing to be sorry for.) Maybe after being sorry for Hiroshima, Liberia and a few more important issues. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by ektbear: 3:33pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
You put a lot of effort into a debunking a source (Republic Report) that is basically an Igbo "man gives birth to three-headed dog" sort of tabloid. Still, I suppose worthwhile to make it crystal clear why nothing they said is of any value. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by PhysicsQED(m): 3:47pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
Ironically, I didn't initially post in order to debunk the original article, but merely to counter OK2NV's misconception about JFK's involvement in 1967 events and to explain the very simple reason why the U.S. couldn't have been involved. The original article didn't seem credible enough to warrant an argument, so I originally wasn't planning on responding to this thread. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 11:39pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
ekt_bear: You have come again with the same baseless accusations that I quarrel with you about. You could have made more sense if you cited evidence in your allegation except that it is an Igbo tabloid. A little account of some of their reports where a 'man gave birth to three headed dog' would have sufficed instead your write-up shows you up as a prejudiced armchair commentator. The Republic website is there with their archives. It wont take 2 minutes to dig up scores of such fairytales if really your assessment is accurate. Please come off these spurious allegations. They show you up in bad light. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 11:48pm On Feb 13, 2012 |
PhysicsQED: Good a thing that you yourself have debunked your whole argument before that US does not regret its past actions so no need for me to start debunking them. Dig further, you are going to see more. |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by Onlytruth(m): 12:06am On Feb 14, 2012 |
The only thing I know is that Biafra (by her very nature -95% Christian, hardworking, republican, peaceful, tech-inclined and business oriented) IS A NATURAL ALLY of the USA. Policies can change. Presidents come and go. Nothing will ever change the natural disposition of Biafra to be a GREAT ally of the United States. Simple and short.  |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by ektbear: 12:06am On Feb 14, 2012 |
You want me to argue why a crappy tabloid is in fact a crappy tabloid? What would be the purpose of that? How is that a good use of my time? |
| Re: Us Regrets Past Actions Against Biafra, As Boko Haram Threatens To Assasinate: by houvest: 12:09am On Feb 14, 2012 |
Physics wrote Actually, my point was more that they don't regret those actions, not just that they don't express regret, so I should have stated that. But whether openly or secretly regretted, the point is that if there's nothing to suggest that there was ever any "secret" regret over affairs that they actually interfered in that had to do with the cold war (in the case of South America) and which they might actually have a reason to regret, there would be no reason to feel regret over issues that had nothing to do with them (Nigerian Civil War) and which they didn't involve themselves with. The question is this, if you have the power to stop the death of 3.5 million people and you did nothing to stop that, have you not done sometthing wrong and if you find out later that this your inaction was the wrong policy, Can you not regret it since we have established that the US can and does regret past actions? Forget all other story and answer this simple question? Does the world regret not intervening in Rwanda? Do you only regret active actions? Can't you regret passive actions? Note that historians regard US role in the Nigerian Civil war as dubious. http://www.jstor.org/pss/721864 |
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