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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 3:16pm On Jan 03, 2014
lalaboi: Well. . Mourinho wanted to be like citeh! outscore your opponents even if you conceed alot. That did not work out too well. \

More emphasis have been placed on the Defence because of the recent Horrow shows! It has paid off and everyone has stepped up thier game a bit. I prefer the Defend and take your chances if you ask me, Chelsea players are not suited for the attack attack attack and outscore your opponents


In my opinion, too many assumptions.

* Mourinho wanted to be like City. JM did not choose to be like City. Muourinho's choice will never be attacking football. This is the mandate he has been given. And that's why he keeps repeating in the press that he will default to defensive football.
* That didn't work out too well. Only because JM does not know how to set up a to attack.
* Chelsea players are not suited for attack attack. . . . This is unfounded when you factor in the fact that we have Oscar, Mata, Willian, Hazard et al. What do you think folks like Martinez, Pochettinno, Laudrup will do if they could afford all of the talent we have?

These guys have only a fraction of the talent we have yet managed to get and sustain attacking football from their mediocre players. At the Bridge, folks say we don't have the players.


Defensive football is easy. Attacking football is very difficult to teach, implement and sustain. You either know how to or you don't.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 1025: 3:35pm On Jan 03, 2014
nateevs:


In my opinion, too many assumptions.

* Mourinho wanted to be like City. JM did not choose to be like City. Muourinho's choice will never be attacking football. This is the mandate he has been given. And that's why he keeps repeating in the press that he will default to defensive football.
* That didn't work out too well. Only because JM does not know how to set up a to attack.
* Chelsea players are not suited for attack attack. . . . This is unfounded when you factor in the fact that we have Oscar, Mata, Willian, Hazard et al. What do you think folks like Martinez, Pochettinno, Laudrup will do if they could afford all of the talent we have?

These guys have only a fraction of the talent we have yet managed to get and sustain attacking football from their mediocre players. At the Bridge, folks say we don't have the players.


Defensive football is easy. Attacking football is very difficult to teach, implement and sustain. You either know how to or you don't.

if u don't conceed, nobody will win u. if nobody wins u, then u a great side. if mourinho does not know how to attack, how did he get the record of the highest number of goals scored in a season in la liga? barca is an attacking side yet a defending side has more goals than an attacking side - funny. in football, the target is to score and refuse to concede. are you also aware that all the attacking sides in bpl are behind chelsea on the number of goals scored in a season in the history of the league. any attack that does not bring in goals is not a good one. a good coach is the one that knows how to defend and when to attack.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:03pm On Jan 03, 2014
1025:

if u don't conceed, nobody will win u. if nobody wins u, then u a great side. if mourinho does not know how to attack, how did he get the record of the highest number of goals scored in a season in la liga? .

I will tell you how. Christiano Ronaldo. Yes that same one who scored 60 goals in the season you refer to.
Take Ronaldo out and you end up with a pretty average scoring side.


Everyone refers to the Chelsea of yore but never remember to mention that along with that success came over £600m worth of non stop spending hand-picking players over the globe. JM will not achieve that without the spending.


It's true that if you do not concede, you will not lose a game. However, this does not necessarily translate to scoring. The danger in this theory is only masked by the fact that there is quality in Chelsea and more often than not, Hazard/Ramires could skip past three players and create or score an individually crafted goal. If you tried the same with quality of the team in say West Ham, the best you will get is drawing all games and that will get you relegated.

So when you refer to the so-called "tried and tested" formula, never forget to add that the quality is what masks the danger in the that approach. Not conceding first and hoping to score is never a sustainable tactical approach to football. Without spending huge amounts, you will never win anything.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 4:25pm On Jan 03, 2014
nateevs: Everyone refers to the Chelsea of yore but never remember to mention that along with that success came over £600m worth of non stop spending. JM will not achieve that without the spending.

Without spending huge
amounts, you will never win
anything.

Mourinho is not the culprit for Italy's bankruptcy, yet he took Inter to the highest peak possible in football. He didn't have hundreds of millions to spend before he desecrated European football sanctuaries en route to lifting the CL with Porto.

All the "JM gats spend plentiful to succeed" yarnings nor get footing cos Mourinho's greatest success came at Inter where greenbacks nor dey nyanfu nyanfu.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ritchboy(m): 4:49pm On Jan 03, 2014
nitlad:
Mourinho is not the culprit for Italy's bankruptcy, yet he took Inter to the highest peak possible in football. He didn't have hundreds of millions to spend before he desecrated European football sanctuaries en route to lifting the CL with Porto.
All the "JM gats spend plentiful to succeed" yarnings nor get footing cos Mourinho's greatest success came at Inter where greenbacks nor dey nyanfu nyanfu.

Nonsense... Which grounds were desecrated? Porto's UCL win is a classic example of "luck of the draw", United were the only decent side they faced and they needed help from the officials to progress.

Inter spent shitloads of money when JM was there...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:56pm On Jan 03, 2014
nitlad:



Mourinho is not the culprit for Italy's bankruptcy, yet he took Inter to the highest peak possible in football. He didn't have hundreds of millions to spend before he desecrated European football sanctuaries en route to lifting the CL with Porto.

All the "JM gats spend plentiful to succeed" yarnings nor get footing cos Mourinho's greatest success came at Inter where greenbacks nor dey nyanfu nyanfu.



Inter Milan's spending, £53m in 08/09 and £82m in 09/10 says you are wrong.
And where's the team he built only 3/4 years ago?


Plus like Ritchie said, check out the fixtures Porto en route the final.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:16pm On Jan 03, 2014
And how Nateevs would think in line with a whimsical Dayo is shocking!

Mourinho has always shown tactical flexibility, i refuse to embrace the notion that big spending is his forte and a chief factor that has had him churn out results and play more attacking footie undecided

Before Jose, the likes of Carvalho, Deco, Maniche, Costinha etc were mostly nobodies - either run-of-the-mill players in a decent porto side, or players plucked from unfashionable clubs in the Liga Sagres - Paulo Ferreira from Vitoria de Setubal.

He had them mutated into world beaters, repeated it in Chelsea, Inter and Madrid.

Yeah, Ronaldo might have been the brain behind Jose's Madrid league success story but we must recall that he [Ronaldo] was already there before Jose's arrival and never helped Madrid's or Pellegrini's course.

It took Jose's ingeniuty to have his innovative Chelsea triangle replaced with a double midfield-holding pivot in Khedira and Alonso, they dictated the game. An unproven Ozil occupied the hole and appeared to be the creativity hub. Took a powerful Didier who occupies two markers and replaced him with Ronaldo. And he won the league in style.

He's yet to strike a pattern of play for us that i know but then he's doing fine grinding out wins with a host of stockpiled Ams that'd need time to play like a unit.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 5:29pm On Jan 03, 2014
Sometimes nateevs makes me sick of watchin football sad
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jan 03, 2014
I agree with Guapo: JM has always shown tactical flexibility in the past, along with a great ability to read the game and ring the required changes when needed.

But has his lot been helped by throwing millions into the locker rooms? yes.

It could be argued that big spending is a requirement to stay at the top level, but it could also be argued that big spending can paper over the cracks left by a less-than-astute-tactician.

Except for his stint Porto (who had a pretty easy run to the CL final), JM has had the luxury of working with huge warchests and exceptional players.

Now that he(seemingly) has not been allowed to spend big, Nateevs is only asking if our recent underperformance is due to a lack of tactical nous and/or a possible inability to throw money at the problem.

A valid question IMO.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:34pm On Jan 03, 2014
Who wouldnt have stumped in the transfer market to salvage Inter's plight?

Inter's management was capsizing, the players were dead in the spirit.

Jose only needed an unproven Diego Milito, Thiago
Motta, a no-longer-superb Samuel Eto’o, Lucio and Madrid's flop Sneijder to record a treble.

Cometh the hour, cometh the man jare cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 5:41pm On Jan 03, 2014
I hate the fact you guyz keep repeating "easy runs" , which of the runs were easy for porto back then ? I want to know pls
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 5:43pm On Jan 03, 2014
El Guapo: And how Nateevs would think in line with a whimsical Dayo is shocking!


Why is it shocking? It's a sound point of view.


Mourinho has always shown tactical flexibility, i refuse to embrace the notion that big spending is his forte and a chief factor that has had him churn out results and play more attacking footie undecided


Mate, tactical flexibility and attacking philosophy are mutually exclusive. You can change tactically whilst still operating under the same attacking philosophy. I am sure you know exactly which this discussion is about.



Before Jose, the likes of Carvalho, Deco, Maniche, Costinha etc were mostly nobodies - either run-of-the-mill players in a decent porto side, or players plucked from unfashionable clubs in the Liga Sagres - Paulo Ferreira from Vitoria de Setubal.

He had them mutated into world beaters, repeated it in Chelsea, Inter and Madrid.


You must understand that no one undermines Jose's ability as a coach. What is undeniable at the same time is how much influence spending power has on his success. You claim he repeated it at Chelsea but not without the influx of £120m per season after Roman's arrival. How much success do you think Jose would have had without the wholesome changes upon his arrival?

Same at Inter. . spent over £130m over two seasons.

Madrid. . 130m over 2 seasons. Without the cost of the footballer of the year.




It took Jose's ingeniuty to have his innovative Chelsea triangle replaced with a double midfield-holding pivot in Khedira and Alonso, they dictated the game. An unproven Ozil occupied the hole and appeared to be the creativity hub. Took a powerful Didier who occupies two markers and replaced him with Ronaldo. And he won the league in style.


Before you go unto winning the league in style, think about the competition in the Spanish league. See what the rest of the league get from TV revenue relative to the league leaders.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dyabman(m): 5:47pm On Jan 03, 2014
Nonsense !!! ^^^^^ cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:03pm On Jan 03, 2014
GustavoFring: I agree with Guapo: JM has always shown tactical flexibility in the past, along with a great ability to read the game and ring the required changes when needed.

But has his lot been helped by throwing millions into the locker rooms? yes.

It could be argued that big spending is a requirement to stay at the top level, but it could also be argued that big spending can paper over the cracks left by a less-than-astute-tactician.

Except for his stint Porto (who had a pretty easy run to the CL final), JM has had the luxury of working with huge warchests and exceptional players.

Now that he(seemingly) has not been allowed to spend big, Nateevs is only asking if our recent underperformance is due to a lack of tactical nous and/or a possible inability to throw money at the problem.

A valid question IMO.



A valid question actually.

Mou spends for a serious reason, cos he wants to win. Mou is shrewd and prudent that he assesses the positions that needs to be addressed and occupies it with his kinda players - an attribute reserved only for astute gaffers.

This is his first season with our new look Barca's tiki-taka wannabe squad, i know him well enough to have assessed the situation in the team, i know he would love to strike the balance soon enough - possibly two signings.

His selections so far tells you more of whats on his mind. An aggresive Ramires manning the DM role, a solid Cahill replacing our erratic cult-hero Luiz, a hardworking Oscar ahead of our best player Mata and more recently a hardworking Azpi benching Cole. This team is not balanced, we shouldn't keep being shocked at some results.

This team needs just a season to appear in the mould the managers wants it to, a laurel this term should be considered a 'heavenly bonus'.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:12pm On Jan 03, 2014
GustavoFring: Now that he(seemingly) has not been allowed to spend big, Nateevs is only asking if our recent underperformance is due to a lack of tactical nous and/or a possible inability to throw money at the problem.

A valid question IMO.


I can help you eliminate the second option

Spending last summer Schulle = 20m, Willian = 30m, Van Ginkel = 10m, etc

Total Chelsea spending last summer = 65 m Pounds

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/chelsea-fc/transfers/verein_631.html

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:15pm On Jan 03, 2014
^^ See gbese o, when Jose come sign Andre Schurrle ni? shocked

Nateevs i would love to ask you this, bar Porto, which of these teams was in good shape and needed no revamp of its squad before Jose arrived there? Chelsea? Inter? Or Madrid? undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:18pm On Jan 03, 2014
El Guapo: See gbese o, when Jose come sign Andre Schurrle ni? shocked

When did Schurrle join Chelsea and when did Mourinho join
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by wonlasewonimi: 6:19pm On Jan 03, 2014
But, Mancini had bottomless pit with Man city what did he achieve?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:21pm On Jan 03, 2014
wonlasewonimi: But, Mancini had bottomless pit with Man city what did he achieve?

Mancini achieved at City the same thing Mourinho achieved at real Madrid

1 league, I super cup, one FA cup

trophyless in final season

mancinis own was even a bigger achievement because this was the first time City was winning and had no winning culture in them compared to madrid
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:24pm On Jan 03, 2014
Jose Mourinho is clueless when it comes to attacking football, But in his elements with counter attacking or parking the Bus.

Jose Mourinho told us all that its easier to play defensive than to play attacking

He tried attacking everywhere he went any small hiccup he automatically defaults back to his defensive football

Thats why he would always be inferior to pep Guardiola his lord and master
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jan 03, 2014
dayokanu: Jose Mourinho is clueless when it comes to attacking football, But in his elements with counter attacking or parking the Bus.

Jose Mourinho told us all that its easier to play defensive than to play attacking

He tried attacking everywhere he went any small hiccup he automatically defaults back to his defensive football

Thats why he would always be inferior to pep Guardiola his lord and master

You chat piss n' shiit like to say attacking footie underlines tactical ingeniuty.

Jose is not scared of any challenge, he takes them by the horn. He's got balls than your lord Pep who would resort for already structured teams in weak leagues.

Pep had the chance of moving to the EPL, why would he chicken out?

I love your gaffer though but mate, he's a weakling that dreads stern challenges.

Ofcourse its easier to defend than to attack, do you need Smith's tutorials at Harvard to grasp that simple notion?

If only most of you had the chance to step into a pitch, some debates here would be uncalled for.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by wonlasewonimi: 6:41pm On Jan 03, 2014
dayokanu:

Mancini achieved at City the same thing Mourinho achieved at real Madrid

1 league, I super cup, one FA cup

trophyless in final season

mancinis own was even a bigger achievement because this was the first time City was winning and had no winning culture in them compared to madrid

Uncle, it's not fair to judge him based on his performance in La liga. Even when Barcelona is struggling they are still on top of the league. Let Pep come and do the hard graft not the treble winning clubs he has been lucky to have.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:46pm On Jan 03, 2014
El Guapo: You chat piss n' shiit like to say attacking footie underlines tactical ingeniuty.

Jose is not scared of any challenge, he takes them by the horn. He's got balls than your lord Pep who would resort for already structured teams in weak leagues.

Pep had the chance of moving to the EPL, why would he chicken out?

I love your gaffer though but mate, he's a weakling that dreads stern challenges.

Ofcourse its easier to defend than to attack, do you need Smith's tutorials at Harvard to grasp that simple notion?

If only most of you had the chance to step into a pitch, some debates here would be uncalled for.

When both Pep and Jose were in the la Liga what was their head to head?

Why should Pep come to EPL? Its only football illiterates that talk those kind of gibberish Did Del Bosque, Marcelo Lippi, Hitzfeld, Arrigo Sacchi Jurgen Klopp, Van Gaal etc ever step into the EPL so why should Pep?

Pep saw a team that matched his ideology, Not a Sugar daddy team, not a park the bus team and he opted to join

Tell us Pep vs Mourinho head to head to show who is the better gaffer. Joses worst defeat was handed to him by Pep.

Since 2005 that Jose landed in Chelsea tell us how many players he has groomed. Pep in 5yrs would point at Sergio Busquets, Pedro etc

Jose always opts for the easy way out which is defending. Jose not scared of anything? Let him take Hull City, Eintracht Braunsweig, Almeria, and Livorno to win their local leagues first

I hope I have cleared your doubts about Schurrle and Mourinho

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:51pm On Jan 03, 2014
wonlasewonimi: Uncle, it's not fair to judge him based on his performance in La liga. Even when Barcelona is struggling they are still on top of the league. Let Pep come and do the hard graft not the treble winning clubs he has been lucky to have.

So what should we judge him based on? Before pep stepped into barca they finished 3rd almost 20 points behind Madrid

In Peps first season he removed Barcas best Player Ronaldinho, Deco etc

Thats like Mourinho getting to madrid and removing C.Ronaldo

By May 2009 a season with Pep the same barca who finished almost 20 points behind won the league with a 9 point gap won the Copa de rey won the CL in 2009 calendar yr won six titles

The day Jose achieves that he would be mentioned in the same sentence as Pep

BTW whats the hard graft? Parking the bus vs every team

Can you help your friend and show us Pep vs Jose head to head?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 6:53pm On Jan 03, 2014
August 2013 Super cup in prague

pep did what he has always done to Jose again. Handed him a smackdown despite Mourinhos anti football
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 7:10pm On Jan 03, 2014
ritchboy: Nonsense... Which grounds were desecrated? Porto's UCL win is a classic example of "luck of the draw", United were the only decent side they faced and they needed help from the officials to progress.

You are a fool. . . You call Porto winning the CL in the 2004 "luck of the draw" and Manure was the only decent side they faced?? Clearly, you are trolling. . .

Inter spent shitloads of money when JM was there...

So spending £135m in two years is shitloads compared to the hundreds of millions he had to spend at Chelsea or the limitless coffers at Madrid? You are out of your depth.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 7:11pm On Jan 03, 2014
nateevs: Inter Milan's spending, £53m in 08/09 and £82m in 09/10 says you are wrong.

This is a miserly % of what he had to spend at Chelsea. So I insist, he didn't have the cash to splash, neither did he "throw money at the problem".

Is it not an irony that JM's greater successes have come on budget jobs? cheesy

And where's the team he built only 3/4 years ago?

Mourinho's assignment at Inter was never to build a team to last a millenium, but to bring instant success, especially in Europe. This he did in spectacular fashion. Testament to this is the length of his contract in relation to the average age of the team then. He practically conquered Europe with a team of geriatrics, bargain buys and cast-aways like Eto'o and Sneijder. That is genius.

Plus like Ritchie said, check out the fixtures Porto en route the final.

Bitchboy is an idiöt, please don't reference him. . .

You can say that only with the benefit of hindsight. . . They were never the team to beat. Abi which of Porto's games were they favourites to win prior? Was it not after they had conquered all that gods were made out of their personnel - players and coach?

If to say na dem be Milan then ni, then you can talk about their 'easy fixtures', but they were Porto, freaking FC Porto! Their outlook prior to every game then is the same as it is now - unfancied. They conquered against the odds!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:23pm On Jan 03, 2014
dayokanu:

When both Pep and Jose were in the la Liga what was their head to head?

Why should Pep come to EPL? Its only football illiterates that talk those kind of gibberish Did Del Bosque, Marcelo Lippi, Hitzfeld, Arrigo Sacchi Jurgen Klopp, Van Gaal etc ever step into the EPL so why should Pep?

Pep saw a team that matched his ideology, Not a Sugar daddy team, not a park the bus team and he opted to join

Tell us Pep vs Mourinho head to head to show who is the better gaffer. Joses worst defeat was handed to him by Pep.

Since 2005 that Jose landed in Chelsea tell us how many players he has groomed. Pep in 5yrs would point at Sergio Busquets, Pedro etc

Jose always opts for the easy way out which is defending. Jose not scared of anything? Let him take Hull City, Eintracht Braunsweig, Almeria, and Livorno to win their local leagues first

I hope I have cleared your doubts about Schurrle and Mourinho

Oga get your stats right, Chelsea had already made enquiries about Andre and lounged in bids before Jose's arrival.

The board were busy with some signings and scouting that had nothing to do with Mou.

Epl wasn't tough under the days of Sacchi, Capello, Lippi etc, as it is now. Those days there was hardly a competition, it was Manure ruling the roost. So i understand why those great names never made a move.

Pep managed this Pep managed that - total prate talks!. A fella that had templates to work on made available by his predecessors - which made his work easier.

Pep had a better team than Jose during their days in Spain yet the latter putted up great fights, stopped him in a season and won the league convincingly.

Had already stopped him with Inter!

You dont fück with a gladiator Dayokanu.

Jose is a gladiator!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 7:30pm On Jan 03, 2014
135 mill over 2 years is a budget job?

I fear your extravagance...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nitlad: 7:39pm On Jan 03, 2014
GustavoFring: 135 mill over 2 years is a budget job?

I fear your extravagance...

Yes it is in comparison to the relentless spending he could afford at Chelsea and Madrid.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 7:43pm On Jan 03, 2014
El Guapo: Oga get your stats right, Chelsea had already made enquiries about Andre and lounged in bids before Jose's arrival.

The board were busy with some signings and scouting that had nothing to do with Mou.

Chelsea already made inquiries about a player does not mean Chelsea already bought him. Jose is the manager and can stop the purchase. Chelsea makes several inquiries every transfer season and still pull plugs till the last minute. Robben went to a Man utd training and still didnt sign.


Epl wasn't tough under the days of Sacchi, Capello, Lippi etc, as it is now. Those days there was hardly a competition, it was Manure ruling the roost. So i understand why those great names never made a move.

LVG was still a coach at Bayern till 2011. LvG is still a coach now. So you mean EPL wasnt tough in 2011 or now?

Capello still coached Real madrid in 2007, Coached English National team till 2012 He is still actively coaching now So what do you mean by EPL wasnt a tough competition in the days of capello?

Hitzfeld still coaches till now, he coached bayern in 2008 Are you saying EPL wasnt a tough competition in 2008 when they had 2 CL finalists or what?

Marcelo Lippi coached Juve in 2004, coached italian NT till 2010 still coaches now. So at what time during Lippis tenure that is still running did EPL become or stop being a tough league

Dont make me bludgeon you to death on Euro football


Pep managed this Pep managed that - total prate talks!. A fella that had templates to work on made available by his predecessors - which made his work easier.

Pep had a better team than Jose during their days in Spain yet the latter putted up great fights, stopped him in a season and won the league convincingly.

Before Pep stepped into Barca coaching role, the team finished 3rd 18points behind leaders Thats a fact. So tell me a manager inheriting a 3rd place team had templates to work with? Which templates?

How did Pep have a better team than Jose? Pep moulded the team that pummeled Jose to submission. The same set of players that Rijkaard took to 3rd place was what Pep turned to sixtuple winners.

Had already stopped him with Inter!

Pep battered him at madrid, And he still continued at bayern.
I have asked several times whats the head to head record between Pep and Jose? Can you kindly provide this?

You dont fück with a gladiator Dayokanu.

Jose is a gladiator!

You call Peps wife a Gladiator? I wonder what you would call Pep the man who domesticated him
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by dayokanu(m): 7:44pm On Jan 03, 2014
nitlad:

Yes it is in comparison to the relentless spending he could afford at Chelsea and Madrid.

Compare it to other clubs. How many clubs in Europe would spend 130m over 2 seasons and still call it a budget job?

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