sod09:
the fool have suddenly lost his password or probably deactivate his account

He was the first to raise an alarm that Sarri has zero tactical knowledge. We were quick to insult him. I apologize for my role in that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1CQkoo4Sv0



Sooooo Arsenal gave Chelsea the D on and off the pitch? This life ehn.

hoopLA:

See response.
Na where dem wan start before?

This is the type of reply you get when your reasoning power is inversely proportional to the number of posts on this forum.

Oga is not by force to quote me, especially when you have absolutely nothing to say.

As for iamZero and the other two twerps that "liked" this rubbish, I have absolutely no words for you.

You are just too dumb to comprehend simple words. Did English FA gave Chelsea free 11 points or they earned it.

hensben:
You are just too dumb to comprehend simple words. Did English FA gave Chelsea free 11 points or they earned it.

yes you earned it. You will soon lose all. Hahaha

How much longer will Sarridon P last?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejETg9a6XVE

afrodoc2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1CQkoo4Sv0



Sooooo Arsenal gave Chelsea the D on and off the pitch? This life ehn.

See as troopz they blow like Whale in an ocean.

pamcode:
See as troopz they blow like Whale in an ocean.

They are "good" friends. Arsenal whoop Chelsea ass and no come reply their messages. E be like say Arsenal just use Chelsea do chop clean mouth.

homesteady:


So you think many teams have not tried to man-mark Busquets?

He is softer than Jorginho by far. He's lucky to be in a team like Barca and Spain, where his mates quickly give him options each time he receives passes.

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LoRdCaT:
Jeez!! You are wishing a human death because of football? That is taking things too far.

Lol. I was just kidding. Nothing serious.

airmark:


He is softer than Jorginho by far. He's lucky to be in a team like Barca and Spain, where his mates quickly give him options each time he receives passes.

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Oga,no dey try sound smart with all this gifs and actually watch some football match.Its just like showing gifs or videos of where Messi or Ronaldo missed seaters and say because they did on some occasions they are poor finishers.Absolutely ridiculous.


No other CDM is good under pressure than Busquet.He hardly loses possession or composure even under intense pressing from opponents and that is his greatest strength as a player..Hes very good at intercepting and has vision unlike what is obtainable in Jorginho and You cant simply mark him out in games just as you can mark out Jorginho due to teams heavily rely on his transtional play rather than his ability to play some key passes which Jorginho cannot do.Note the difference.

Don't know how to quote Posts on other threads but this what I once said

Sarri is a very predictable coach that the word Rotation is an alien language to him.Hes going to use the same starting line up and formation in his next match

Adiwana:



Oga,no dey try sound smart with all this gifs and actually watch some football match.Its just like showing gifs or videos of where Messi or Ronaldo missed seaters and say because they did on some occasions they are poor finishers.Absolutely ridiculous.


No other CDM is good under pressure than Busquet.He hardly loses possession or composure even under intense pressing from opponents and that is his greatest strength as a player..Hes very good at intercepting and has vision unlike what is obtainable in Jorginho and You cant simply mark him out in games just as you can mark out Jorginho due to teams heavily rely on his transtional play rather than his ability to play some key passes which Jorginho cannot do.Note the difference.

This one na jjc.

Let's assume i didn't watch Busquets that much. Read the opinions of Barca fans, who watched him more than i do and let me know if you have collected the amala stirrer from our own Dayo.

One shot fc..

airmark:




This one na jjc.

Let's assume i didn't watch Busquets that much. Read the opinions of Barca fans, who watched him more than i do and let me know if you have collected the amala stirrer from our own Dayo.

One persons opinion is now that of the whole fans?Have you ever watched Barca without Busquets??Barca can easily replace Messi than Busquets even though his more of a CM this days than a DM.And the guy was suggesting Vidal and Pogba to replace him.This goes to show you his ability to analyse football.How do you replace a DM with Box to Box midfielders?Simply laughable

Adiwana:



Oga,no dey try sound smart with all this gifs and actually watch some football match.Its just like showing gifs or videos of where Messi or Ronaldo missed seaters and say because they did on some occasions they are poor finishers.Absolutely ridiculous.


No other CDM is good under pressure than Busquet.He hardly loses possession or composure even under intense pressing from opponents and that is his greatest strength as a player..Hes very good at intercepting and has vision unlike what is obtainable in Jorginho and You cant simply mark him out in games just as you can mark out Jorginho due to teams heavily rely on his transtional play rather than his ability to play some key passes which Jorginho cannot do.Note the difference.

How would you know if he can't be marked out when opponents have their hands full with Messi and other attackers?

eph12:

How would you know if he can't be marked out when opponents have their hands full with Messi and other attackers?

I just dey wait make the guy land. Why would you be manmarking Busquets when Messi would just dribble past the entire team?

eph12:

How would you know if he can't be marked out when opponents have their hands full with Messi and other attackers?

Because he has done it in Spain where there's no Messi and where there's no particular player to be stopped.Trying to mark him out in a game is utterly useless because he's not a player to build your team around.The teams rhythm and style of play will exist whether he's marked or not as he's not a priority player neither is he a player that scores goals or makes defence splitting passes.So coaches have no other option than to pay him no attention which then allows the team to channel their build up play through him.Thats why he was and still the heartbeat of both Barca and the Spanish team

Adiwana:


One persons opinion is now that of the whole fans?Have you ever watched Barca without Busquets??Barca can easily replace Messi than Busquets even though his more of a CM this days than a DM.And the guy was suggesting Vidal and Pogba to replace him.This goes to show you his ability to analyse football.How do you replace a DM with Box to Box midfielders?Simply laughable

Who will you easily replace Messi with? Keep deceiving yourself, if you think teams are afraid to go all out against Barca, because of one Busquets?

Replacing Busquets with CM, is to show you how poor defensively Busquets is, such that a CM could do what he does and better.

Busquets would be exposed when he has to fight more for the ball, rather than relax and do his 'receive and pass' thingy. Much of his energy (ofcourse low), will be burnt running, marking and battling for possession. He is buscuit for a reason.

Messi no dey make defense splitting passes
I thought i've seen it all

Adiwana:



Because he has done it in Spain where there's no Messi and where there's no particular player to be stopped.Trying to mark him out in a game is utterly useless because he's not a player to build your team around.The teams rhythm and style of play will exist whether he's marked or not as he's not a priority player neither is he a player that scores goals or makes defence splitting passes.So coaches have no other option than to pay him no attention which then allows the team to channel their build up play through him.Thats why he was and still the heartbeat of both Barca and the Spanish team

So you've agreed that teams haven't paid him attention, right? Why were you now arguing blindly? That's the reason why he should come to where they would pay him attention every week.

When we started this season, teams didn't pay Jorginho attention, now all guns are pointed to his head by opponents.

airmark:


Who will you easily replace Messi with? Keep deceiving yourself, if you think teams are afraid to go all out against Barca, because of one Busquets?

Replacing Busquets with CM, is to show you how poor defensively Busquets is, such that a CM could do what he does and better.

Busquets would be exposed when he has to fight more for the ball, rather than relax and do his 'receive and pass' thingy. Much of his energy (ofcourse low), will be burnt running, marking and battling for possession. He is buscuit for a reason.

Barca win more of their games when Messi is injured than when hes around.The argument could be null though given the ratio of matches played with and without him but you can't overlook it.They've shown they can cope fine without him and this are facts.But Busquet??Barca can't play without Busquet.They struggle heavily without him and that is the more reason why the club has slowly integrated him from DM to CM over the years.Because the more he plays as anchor,the harder it is to find a replacement.So the only option is to play him as more of holding CM.But still at that you won't ever see Barca drop him or give him rest.Be it cup or league games.


The False 9,Anchor role are if not the most difficult roles to play in football and that is why players that are good at this positions are once in a life time kind of players.Players like Messi,Makelele and Busquets are priceless to their clubs.Ask RM what happened when they sold Makelele.Any player with flare and vision can play as a Regista,playmaker,striker etc but it takes a special kind of player to play the above mentioned rolea

airmark:


So you've agreed that teams haven't paid him attention, right? Why were you now arguing blindly? That's the reason why he should come to where they would pay him attention every week.

When we started this season, teams didn't pay Jorginho attention, now all guns are pointed to his head by opponents.

But this can be said for literally any footballer that is not Messi or Ronaldo. If any player is paid enough attention, in any league, their abilities to effect a game can well and truly be nullified.

What exactly is the point of these arguments?

airmark:


So you've agreed that teams haven't paid him attention, right? Why were you now arguing blindly? That's the reason why he should come to where they would pay him attention every week.

When we started this season, teams didn't pay Jorginho attention, now all guns are pointed to his head by opponents.

As I have already said,teams play can exist with or without Busquet.If the guy is in Chelsea with a good coach that will utilise him well,marking him means play will go through Kovacic and Kante.All he needs to do is play one or two passes or no passes at all.He can easily just shield the defense by just dropping deep and being an extra man thereby allowing Alonso more freedom to push up or drop in as an extra midfileder.This means is either the strikers mark him or an extra man from midfield will just like Ramsey did yesterday thereby leaving extra space in the midfield for players like Kovacic to expolit.The team will easily channel the ball from the defense through Kante who is more energetic.Imagine what will happen if Pep gets him.Man city struggle without Fernadinho who is not even technically gifted and is less football intelligent than busquet.What then will happen if he plays under Pep??

nateevs:


But this can be said for literally any footballer that is not Messi or Ronaldo. If any player is paid enough attention, in any league, their abilities to effect a game can well and truly be nullified.

What exactly is the point of these arguments?

Some players no matter the pressure, they hardly lose possession, they don't need to look like Lukaku. Iniesta, Modric are my favourites in this aspect.

Busquets' weaknesses won't make him survive in epl, just as we are seeing in Jorginho's case, Busquets' lack of physicality in his game and tracking back like a pregnant woman, will be exposed every week. We are talking about a dm coming to play in epl, not playing for barca in laliga.

Adiwana:



Barca win more of their games when Messi is injured than when hes around The argument could be null though given the ratio of matches played with and without him but you can't overlook it.They've shown they can cope fine without him and this are facts.But Busquet??Barca can't play without Busquet.They struggle heavily without him and that is the more reason why the club has slowly integrated him from DM to CM over the years.Because the more he plays as anchor,the harder it is to find a replacement.So the only option is to play him as more of holding CM.But still at that you won't ever see Barca drop him or give him rest.Be it cup or league games.


The False 9,Anchor role are if not the most difficult roles to play in football and that is why players that are good at this positions are once in a life time kind of players.Players like Messi,Makelele and Busquets are priceless to their clubs.Ask RM what happened when they sold Makelele.Any player with flare and vision can play as a Regista,playmaker,striker etc but it takes a special kind of player to play the above mentioned rolea

You are ridiculous, Barca have so much quality in attack to kill all the eibars in laliga. How many times did Barca win ucl without Messi playing from the knockout stages? How many classicos did you guys win without Messi?

I wasn't talking about Busquets in laliga or barca, i'm talking about in epl, where Busquets would be chased up and down and where he also needs to do some chasing. Why do you think people are praising Fernandinho in Fraudiola's team?

Unlimited22:

I just dey wait make the guy land. Why would you be manmarking Busquets when Messi would just dribble past the entire team?

bar Messi, Busquets is by far the most important Barca player. Barca midfield looses stability without Busquets and gets overun easily. coaches know this that is why Busquets is man marked in some of the matches. the guy is the most intelligent DM in football . there is a reason Busquets at 20 displaced both Mascherano and Yaya Toure players who are epl legends in their own right. Busquets has held his own against strong and aggressive teams both in Spain and across Europe but Chelsea fans think he is too weak for EPL.

I Thought we bought mascherano , someone with spine and premier league experience to bench busquets and he was relegated to centre back

Adiwana:



As I have already said,teams play can exist with or without Busquet.If the guy is in Chelsea with a good coach that will utilise him well,marking him means play will go through Kovacic and Kante.All he needs to do is play one or two passes or no passes at all.He can easily just shield the defense by just dropping deep and being an extra man thereby allowing Alonso more freedom to push up or drop in as an extra midfileder.This means is either the strikers mark him or an extra man from midfield will just like Ramsey did yesterday thereby leaving extra space in the midfield for players like Kovacic to expolit.The team will easily channel the ball from the defense through Kante who is more energetic.Imagine what will happen if Pep gets him.Man city struggle without Fernadinho who is not even technically gifted and is less football intelligent than busquet.What then will happen if he plays under Pep??

Didn't see the highlighted before mentioning Fernandinho's influence in Fraudiola's team. Now that you mentioned it, what do you think made Fernandinho important in that city team?

Busquit in Chelsea, defending for Alonso? Say no more.

Adiwana:



Because he has done it in Spain where there's no Messi and where there's no particular player to be stopped.Trying to mark him out in a game is utterly useless because he's not a player to build your team around.The teams rhythm and style of play will exist whether he's marked or not as he's not a priority player neither is he a player that scores goals or makes defence splitting passes. So coaches have no other option than to pay him no attention which then allows the team to channel their build up play through him.Thats why he was and still the heartbeat of both Barca and the Spanish team

Thanks for the clarification.

airmark:


You are ridiculous, Barca have so much quality in attack to kill all the eibars in laliga. How many times did Barca win ucl without Messi playing from the knockout stages? How many classicos did you guys win without Messi?

I wasn't talking about Busquets in laliga or barca, i'm talking about in epl, where Busquets would be chased up and down and where he also needs to do some chasing. Why do you think people are praising Fernandinho in Fraudiola's team?

Oga,I no understand your argument.How many matches has Barca played in the champions league with Messi injured.Barca were winning RM 3-0 at Santiago without Messi until he was brought in.Demolished them this season without him

First using Busquet argument to try to substantiate the very fact that Jorginho has been poor is what I can't fathom. Jorginho is not even a good player and I have said it before.Coupled with the fact that he has a coach that has refused allow Kante cover his deficiencies And to make things worse off,the whole team is built around him.And I have already mentioned time and time again,unlike Jorginho,Busquet is not the type of player you build your team around so you can't just mark him out.No good epl coach will build his team around him simply because he doesn't have that ability.You don't build your team round a DM.I have not seen where a DM is being marked out by the opposition.Physicality is not his strong suite and that is where an energetic Box to box midfielder comes in to provide that extra shield

airmark:



Didn't see the highlighted before mentioning Fernandinho's influence in Fraudiola's team. Now that you mentioned it, what do you think made Fernandinho important in that city team?

Busquit in Chelsea, defending for Alonso? Say no more.

First,Fernandinho is just there.Nothing special about him.He is the Jorginho of Man City.He loses possession under intense pressing.Just get good midfielders that can keep the ball and press then you would see he's very useless.With good players that do their job in attack he's good.But go toe to toe with him in the midfield,he fumbles.

He is important to Pep mainly because Man City doesn't have another DM.So it's only natural that for a coach like Pep that plays DM system,he will look important because of his role.Noting more,nothing less

Adiwana:



Oga,I no understand your argument.How many matches has Barca played in the champions league with Messi injured.Barca were winning RM 3-0 at Santiago without Messi until he was brought in.Demolished them this season without him

This season only? Even they lost to farmers anyhow this season

Adiwana:

Jorginho is not even a good player and I have said it before.Coupled with the fact that he has a coach that has refused allow Kante cover his deficiencies

Just like Jorginho at Napoli, those are the deficiencies that Busquets needed no one to cover for him at Barca. He cant run, he cant defend, just receive and pass.

Adiwana:

Physicality is not his strong suite and that is where an energetic Box to box midfielder comes in to provide that extra shield

In epl as a dm, you will be asked questions by opponents every week. You are on your own, Kante can't be doing your work for you.