raumdeuter:


And how will Nigerian call ups enhance his career? If he is useless no amount of National team caps can help his career. The same way National team call up did not help Ali Daei who is one of the most capped footballers

Emmynator:
On this matter of Abraham choosing England over Nigeria, the truth is that we cant fault him for it, he most likely feels more English than Nigeria, Abraham himself maybe comfortable with been a second fiddle player for now, he chose England, we can do without him surely, him and osimehn are of almost the same quality so its not like Abraham will find it easy in Nigeria team, he has to fight for his place as he is doing currently in England.

airmark:


Don't let us deceive ourselves, with his current form he will be starting ahead of Osimhen, being a Chelsea player. That's how our national team is wired.

chrisooblog:
i beg to disagree Wilhelm Troost-Ekong a Tottenham Hotspur reject was playing in 2nd division Netherlands when he made his debut for nigeria. now he plays in serie a. nigeria cap clearly aided his career. from 2nd tier dutch football, norway and turkey he's now in italy

raumdeuter:


How has this National call up helped the career of Leon Balogun and Iheanacho?

chrisooblog:
that is not my business. you said how has a nigerian cap helped anyone's career and i gave you an example cest fini

raumdeuter:


How do you know its Nigerias cap that helped him and not his club performance in Turkey? That is why I am asking which help has the same Nigerian cap done to Ahmed Musa, Iheanacho and co

Emmynator:

True but that doesn't matter anymore, and it doesn't also mean Abraham made a bad choice.

raumdeuter:


How do you know its Nigerias cap that helped him and not his club performance in Turkey? That is why I am asking which help has the same Nigerian cap done to Ahmed Musa, Iheanacho and co

airmark:


See question?



I didn't say it was a bad choice, likewise choosing Nigeria wouldn't have been a bad choice. He just needs to work harder to leave the bench to play for England.

raumdeuter:


How do you know its Nigerias cap that helped him and not his club performance in Turkey? That is why I am asking which help has the same Nigerian cap done to Ahmed Musa, Iheanacho and co

Branzy:
You know Musa world cup heroics got him his lucrative Saudi Arabia club

chrisooblog:
well the facts tell me he was in career purgatory before he started playing for nigeria. once he started wearing the green white green things looked up he went from norway to italy. Tyrone Ebuehi was playing for some no name club in Netherlands too moved to Benfica before he got injured. i'm not bothered about your hypothesis you asked a question i answered EOD.

airmark:
See question?

raumdeuter:


Players that dont have National teams even change clubs, trying to tie their club change to National team call up is being miscievious, Ebuehi joined Benfica even before the world cup started

Ekong was in Turkey and he moved to Udinese, what proof do you have that his National team exploits was what gained him that move and not his club football exploits. Especially since most of his colleagues at the National team have not progressed

chrisooblog:
Ebuehi was already in the national team setup since 2017 a whole year before the world cup.
Ekong started playing for nigeria in 2015 he was 2nd division dutch league player then.
your argument is not about whether if most have progressed stop shifting goal posts

your argument was clearly nigerian cap no epp anibodi and i've shown evidence that it does

raumdeuter:


Correlation is not causation

That Ekong changed clubs did not mean it was his National team cap that made it
I can claim it rained in Lagos because I came to Lagos, The logical question will be that when I went to Kano did it rain?
If the National team was what made Ekong change to better clubs how come it hasn't helped others?

You mean the substitute appearance in friendlies plus the 45mins he played at the world cup was what made Ebuehi sign for Benfica not his 3yrs at Den Haag?

There are players without National teams that make career change maybe you will tell us Naby Keita moved to Liverpool because of his playing for Guinea

Omeruo has been playing for Nigeria way longer than Ekong or Ebuehi yet he was getting tossed from one tier 3 team to another for the past 6yrs that he was a National team player

chrisooblog:
ekong has been playing for nigeria for 4 years at the beginning his club career was nothing to write about 4 years he's in italy. if he was so good then he would have been playing for better clubs before he joined nigeria.
ebuehi was/is a talent before he met up with nigeria nobody knew benfica was interested in him nigeria provided that platform to showcase his talents and hey presto he was.
wo i'm done arguing with you believe what you will if it will help you sleep better at night

raumdeuter:


Very legit one. Players without National teams make career moves. Wan Bissaka joined Man Utd, how many caps does he have for his country

raumdeuter:
Another example Victor Osimhen.
Last season played well in Belgium and got a transfer to Lille, Currently he is Ligue 1 top scorer
If he gets a move to a big club next thing we will be hearing is that the National team was what helped Osimhen to get the transfer

airmark:


Nobody told you players without national teams never made career moves, don't switch the argument.

Did national team caps help some players, YES. Okocha's performance at France 98, fetched him that PSG transfer (most expensive African player that time). PSG weren't chasing him before the world cup, so don't tell us about his Fenerbahce's performances.

If you have contact with any soccer agent, ask him about the benefits of starring for a national team. Many big clubs will tell their scouts that they only need national team players, playing in europe. There was even a time in epl, if you hadn't got a certain number of caps for your national team, you wouldn't be signed. I don't know if that law still applies.


Do you think players bribing their ways to play for Nigeria, are fools? Why do clubs send scouts to tournaments?

raumdeuter:


He is on loan in Saudi. Are his fellow 27yr old footballers playing in Saudi now? Despite his world cup heroics, he is being tossed to backwater leagues

raumdeuter:


That is why we are asking you for evidence that it as National team that was responsible for the move and not the displays at Fenerbahce

If Osimhen moves now, you will also say it was because of National team plays

Branzy:


His move to Saudi is very lucrative. They are many Brazilians even Europeans younger than him. Plying their trade in Asia for the money. Is Carrasco not one

airmark:
How many of you?
Evidence that PSG weren't chasing him until his great performance in the world cup? Find another thing to type.

raumdeuter:


Like I said its like if Osimhen moves to a bigger club you will claim it was because of good performance with National Team

airmark:


I will not.

raumdeuter:


That is why we are asking you for evidence that it as National team that was responsible for the move and not the displays at Fenerbahce

If Osimhen moves now, you will also say it was because of National team plays

raumdeuter:


Give us evidence that PSG bought him strictly because of his world cup performance

raumdeuter:


Give us evidence that PSG bought him strictly because of his world cup performance

kendrick93:
for players playing in the backwaters/unknown league's in europe,playing for your national helps give you more exposure...... especially if your national team is playing at the world cups or nations cup.
it's different if you're already playing in England,italy,germany,etc cos there is already coverage/exposure in those top league's so national team appearance doesn't weigh much

airmark:


You are asking for evidence from 1998, when every sensible person that watched him in the tournament, could remember that PSG only showed interest after his great performances in the tournament.