ToyinDipo:

But VVD had to turn first (complete 180 degree), then accelerate after turning

Bottom line an attacker who was behind him, in a few seconds moved away from him and scored. How did the epitome of defending couldnt make a 180 turn in a few seconds, Is he a Dangote trailer?

raumdeuter:


See how effortlessly Sane got past him, Look at the starting position of Sane about 3yards behind, in a few seconds pulled away and scored from the epitome of defending
This is reality not fairy tales


Starting position and ending position in a few seconds

I don't know why you are showing me this. I have watched him deal with Traore and Mbappe effortless. Never did I mentioned he has not been outpaced before in his career. I have watched Van dijk enough to know my opinion about him and he is the best defender in the world currently. I don't need you to tell or show me anything.

Kimbeast:

I don't know why you are showing me this. I have watched him deal with Traore and Mbappe effortless. Never did I mentioned he has not been outpaced before in his career. I have watched Van dijk enough to know my opinion about him and he is the best defender in the world currently. I don't need you to tell or show me anything.

You havent clarified how he outpaced Traore

raumdeuter:


Now lets see who is dishonest

At the time Adama collected the ball, he was behind VVD

At the time VVD dispossed him they were level

So explain with logic how someone behind you was level with you after a few seconds and you still claimed you outpaced him? We are checking to see who is dishonest

So if A is 5 meters behind B and after 70meter race they are level, You will say B outpaced A

See Ramos vs Neymar

raumdeuter:

You havent clarified how he outpaced Traore

I mentioned you and told you he outpaced Traore? Can you show me where.

Kimbeast:

I mentioned you and told you he outpaced Traore? Can you show me where.

what is the title of the youtube video you posted?

raumdeuter:


So the style of the WPOTY and best defender in the world was not suited to Madrid but the style of one useless VVD is what will suit Madrid. I really hope Madrid will buy him and have Marcelo Kroos Carvajal around him so we can see his point and shout tactics in effect

He would do better than Canavaro I am certain of that. Pepe played with all those players, and he didn't flop, VVD can't do worse than Pepe

raumdeuter:

what is the title of the youtube video you posted?

I didn't post any YouTube video.

ToyinDipo:
He would do better than Canavaro I am certain of that. Pepe played with all those players, and he didn't flop, VVD can't do worse than Pepe

Is Pepe a better defender than Canavaro? or is it not the same Pepe that was regularly getting carded, the same thing you castigated Ramos for?

Kimbeast:

I didn't post any YouTube video.

Oh you were the one who mentioned effortless defending and I just gave evidence of such

raumdeuter:


Bottom line an attacker who was behind him, in a few seconds moved away from him and scored. How did the epitome of defending couldnt make a 180 turn in a few seconds, Is he a Dangote trailer?

It will take about 1.5 seconds for any player to make such turn, you know the meters Sane would have gained on him in those few seconds

raumdeuter:


Is Pepe a better defender than Canavaro? or is it not the same Pepe that was regularly getting carded, the same thing you castigated Ramos for?

Pepe did better at Madrid than Canavaro, he is the one who was coordinating the defence. 1 card for Pepe = 3 cards for Ramos

ToyinDipo:

It will take about 1.5 seconds for any player to make such turn, you know the meters Sane would have gained on him in those few seconds

A player or dangote truck?

ToyinDipo:

Pepe did better at Madrid than Canavaro, he is the one who was coordinating the defence. 1 card for Pepe = 3 cards for Ramos

After Pepe left, Ramos is leading Varane to CL and La Liga titles.

raumdeuter:


A player or dangote truck?

Lol, it will take dangote truck fewer second

raumdeuter:


After Pepe left, Ramos is leading Varane to CL and La Liga titles.

Pepe won those too, and mostly due to their attacking prowess.

ToyinDipo:

Pepe won those too, and mostly due to their attacking prowess.

Ramos won without Pepe, Ramos also won the world cup

raumdeuter:


That is for people who believe in myths and fables

in reality this is the epitome defender made in the lab spinning like a barbers chair

So you mean English FA, UEFA body are believing myths.

Godx:


His positioning is always superb and he is also a bit fast so that gives him good advantage against speedy wingers. He can match them for pace and just nick the balls of them. Their was a particular situation in the champions league final Son breezed pass Matip and in the box and was about to pull the trigger but Vvd just nicked the ball and cleared it. Van dijk is the definition of a complete defender in my books.

Like I said before his positioning is the most impressive thing about him and the wah he makes defending enjoyable. Very composed and astute.
If Van dijk was for sale before the pandemic I reckon he would cost nothing less than $180million.

hensben:
So you mean English FA, UEFA body are believing myths.

Some people believed Ferdinand was better than Vidic, Some believed Terry was better than Vidic, Some even believed Modric was better than Ronaldo in 2018

raumdeuter:


Ramos won without Pepe, Ramos also won the world cup

He won the world cup as a RB, he flopped in world cup as a CB

Some believe that Boateng is better than Vidic and Van dirk

Kimbeast:

I don't know why you are showing me this. I have watched him deal with Traore and Mbappe effortless. Never did I mentioned he has not been outpaced before in his career. I have watched Van dijk enough to know my opinion about him and he is the best defender in the world currently. I don't need you to tell or show me anything.

It's not even a thing you debate with anyone. Van Dijk is the best and most complete defender in the world. He is better than the others by some distance. He is one of those players who makes you want to sack your recruiting department. What were they doing and how did they miss him. It’s infuriating how easy everything is for him. I had no idea he was this good when he was at Southampton.

Expert17:
Some believe that Boateng is better than Vidic and Van dirk

Boateng won the world cup as a starting CB and the best player in the final all by age 27.

raumdeuter:


Some people believed Ferdinand was better than Vidic, Some believed Terry was better than Vidic, Some even believed Modric was better than Ronaldo in 2018

Some people means random people. UEFA, English FA, coaches and captains of clubs are not some people, they know better.

Honestly, you are the only person I’ve seen talking Dijk down, it means the way you see the game is faulty. And I also believe you started liking the game of football in an amateur or unprofessional way and it’s now stalk in your brain like that. I mean, as professional as Dijk is you have the effrontery to talk him down.

raumdeuter:


Boateng won the world cup as a starting CB and the best player in the final all by age 27.

Using this model....

Giroud is better than Lewandowski....

Expert17:


Using this model....

Giroud is better than Lewandowski....

Because France is the same as Poland in football?

hensben:
Some people means random people. UEFA, English FA, coaches and captains of clubs are not some people, they know better.

Honestly, you are the only person I’ve seen talking Dijk down, it means the way you see the game is faulty. And I also believe you started liking the game of football in an amateur or unprofessional way and it’s now stalk in your brain like that. I mean, as professional as Dijk is you have the effrontery to talk him down.

That's the word....

Imagine, saying Ferdinand and Terry are just attache

hensben:
Some people means random people. UEFA, English FA, coaches and captains of clubs are not some people, they know better.

Honestly, you are the only person I’ve seen talking Dijk down, it means the way you see the game is faulty. And I also believe you started liking the game of football in an amateur or unprofessional way and it’s now stalk in your brain like that. I mean, as professional as Dijk is you have the effrontery to talk him down.

Not everyone watches football critically, Are you not talking down Ramos that is a serial winner and the bedrock of the best team in recent times history?

You have the confidence to compare VVD to Ramos to Vidic to Boateng and some of you even claim he is the best defender ever in the EPL

Expert17:


That's the word....

Imagine, saying Ferdinand and Terry are just attache

Yes they attached to better partners, when Terry and ferdinand partnered for England they won the square root of zero, they didnt make any semi, they couldnt even qualify for ordinary Euro 2008

hensben:
So you are just knowing Raumdeuter, the guy rates players in an unprofessional way hence his inconsistency when analyzing football. Ramos has that fighting spirit but he is tactically average as a Centre back.

LMFAO......Well you are the ones who gives the small boy the attention that his making him thinks his opinion about a particular player means anything.

raumdeuter:


Not everyone watches football critically, Are you not talking down Ramos that is a serial winner and the bedrock of the best team in recent times history?

You have the confidence to compare VVD to Ramos to Vidic to Boateng and some of you even claim he is the best defender ever in the EPL

I catch you... Remove it