Mapoka:


I know your antecedent when it comes to Hazard, So I wouldn't go down that lane with you.
No need for the back and forth argument.
You choose to believe what you deem fit
Whether you like him or not, it doesn't stop him from winning the La Liga title.
And it doesn't stop Chelsea from cashing out as usual on him

raumdeuter:


We are talking about his stats and is my antecedent the reason he has been miserable this season for Madrid?

He will get a medal like Mangala got when City won and like Shaqiri will get but watchers of the game will know he has been mega useless and carried by greats like Benzema and Ramos

Mapoka:



Everything would be settled this season, thank goodness Hazard has gone to Madrid, he will shut them all

Mapoka:


I know your antecedent when it comes to Hazard, So I wouldn't go down that lane with you.
No need for the back and forth argument.
You choose to believe what you deem fit
Whether you like him or not, it doesn't stop him from winning the La Liga title.
And it doesn't stop Chelsea from cashing out as usual on him

Mapoka:
When you are on the right team you can rode on other people's sweat and claim you won the LA LIGA

I can even be in a team that won a trophy without even kicking a ball and also claim I won

raumdeuter:


Shut them with 1 goal? Tough

raumdeuter:


The man who saw tomorrow

Unlimited22:

Izuchukwu you no well o

That boy no let us rest for here

Him wahala too much

izzou:


That boy no let us rest for here

Him wahala too much

thorrvik55:
Imagine if this was Rudiger marking Alonso during a corner in the 96th minute and the ball ended up in the back of the net

Ibime:
Dem say Referee sprint past Jorginho

Ibime:
Jorginho!
If only we had added Seri, midfield would be a ticked box.

hensben:
Welcome Jorginho. One of my favorite player in the world. Jorginho as CDM, Kante as B2B. Oshe!

Nihilstjnr:

I think Kante Jorginho Fab could work wella

airmark:


We don't know how fit Barkley is, now. Last season he didn't look ready to pick up the gauntlet in our midfield.
Jorginho's passes look great for our attackers to feast on.

Nihilstjnr:

If he doesn't have to track back as much, in theory he can focus on orchestrating the play and creating chances higher up the pitch, which is his forte anyway.
Jorginho to can keep things ticking over in deeper positions, and Kante shuffles up and down the pitch as a carillero.

donjazet:


Ibime, enough with the jorginho slander.
It's difficult seeing you diss a player like an unseasoned pundit just because of your personal dislike for the player.

There are very few deep playing midfielders like Toni kroos or Xabi who are finely tuned both defensively and offensively.
Nobody here ever taught of jorginho as a box to box midfielder. Even when he was at Italy, he was known for his passing. He broke records for his passes. He is a player who is attuned to a particular system.

Jorginho's role in a team is as a regista of which there are very few like Sergio busquet, rodri, Pirlo etc.

When signing jorginho, we knew we would have to pair him with hard working box to box midfielders like kante and Barkley to complement his poor work rate.

Look at other regista's in football, Sergio busquet has been very vital to Barça in the last 10 years because he perfectly suits their pattern and philosophy, but if he was brought into a kloop team that is purely a high intensity and high energy football or even our team, watch how he would flop because the system doesn't match his attributes.
But if this same busquet went to mancity today, watch him easily slot in the way rodri has slotted in easily.

Don't forget that mancity were very close to signing him before we snatched the deal from them after signing sarri because we realized how important he was to "sarriball" which was the project the club had embarked upon at that time which we later broke away from.

Today, nobody in mancity expects rodri to be creative or defensive, his primary role is simply to recycle possession with lateral and diagonal passes, connecting the defense to the attack via passes and ensuring safe transitioning. This is simply his work.

Jorginho has simply become a victim of Chelsea's managerial instability. Sarriball was the only reason we signed him and now he is stuck with a manager that doesn't need his skill set since he subscribes to a different philosophy of football. This doesn't mean he is a rubbish player like you would like everyone to believe.

These were our immediate reactions here when he was signed.

Ibime:



Insanity is repeating the same thing and expecting different results. Everybody you quoted there has seen the irredeemable weakness in the escort. We don't need long story to know we cannot compete at a top level with Jorginho. He is done at Chelsea.

donjazet:


Ibime, enough with the jorginho slander.
It's difficult seeing you diss a player like an unseasoned pundit just because of your personal dislike for the player.

There are very few deep playing midfielders like Toni kroos or Xabi who are finely tuned both defensively and offensively.
Nobody here ever taught of jorginho as a box to box midfielder. Even when he was at Italy, he was known for his passing. He broke records for his passes. He is a player who is attuned to a particular system.

Jorginho's role in a team is as a regista of which there are very few like Sergio busquet, rodri, Pirlo etc.

When signing jorginho, we knew we would have to pair him with hard working box to box midfielders like kante and Barkley to complement his poor work rate.

Look at other regista's in football, Sergio busquet has been very vital to Barça in the last 10 years because he perfectly suits their pattern and philosophy, but if he was brought into a kloop team that is purely a high intensity and high energy football or even our team, watch how he would flop because the system doesn't match his attributes.
But if this same busquet went to mancity today, watch him easily slot in the way rodri has slotted in easily.

Don't forget that mancity were very close to signing him before we snatched the deal from them after signing sarri because we realized how important he was to "sarriball" which was the project the club had embarked upon at that time which we later broke away from.

Today, nobody in mancity expects rodri to be creative or defensive, his primary role is simply to recycle possession with lateral and diagonal passes, connecting the defense to the attack via passes and ensuring safe transitioning. This is simply his work.

Jorginho has simply become a victim of Chelsea's managerial instability. Sarriball was the only reason we signed him and now he is stuck with a manager that doesn't need his skill set since he subscribes to a different philosophy of football. This doesn't mean he is a rubbish player like you would like everyone to believe.

These were our immediate reactions here when he was signed.

donjazet:


Incase you couldn't decode my message there, it is very simple; jorginho is a good player whose attributes doesn't work in every system. Some players are like that. If busquet comes to Chelsea he too would flop. There are different types of midfielders with unique skills who need other midfielders to complement them.

Jorginho has previously shown how pivotal he is in a possession based system.
He has always been known for his control of the midfield via passing just like other registas.
I am pointing out that he is not useless like you would want others to believe.

donjazet:


Incase you couldn't decode my message there, it is very simple; jorginho is a good player whose attributes doesn't work in every system. Some players are like that. If busquet comes to Chelsea he too would flop. There are different types of midfielders with unique skills who need other midfielders to complement them.

Ibime:


Go and preach that to someone else. For someone who spent years frustrated with Mikel and Fabregas for the same reason, despite their proficiency in possession (even better than Jorginho), you are barking up the wrong tree.

We have done the most to protect Jorginho. The only way to protect such a player is to play 2 DMs in front of him and we have done that last season with Kante and Kova. The ceiling of such strategy is where we finished last season. Dem no born me as a Chelsea fan to be hoping for top 4 every season. I'd rather have a robust midfield that can compete whichever way the game goes, whether offensively or defensively and not be Iike Griffon, fearing that if we play Liverpool and Wolves with Jorginho, we'll get hammered. What the fück is a defensive midfielder who can't create nor defend. Enjoying 70% possession and getting hammered 3-0 while our DM is being ragdolled on every counterattack. Save your preaching for listening ears.
Jorginho must go!

Griffon:


Following the transformation from Sarri-ball to Lampard's ideals, ranging from the style of play, overall squad dynamics and to the tactical side of things, do you wish we stick with Jorginho?

Just a simple question.

donjazet:


Incase you couldn't decode my message there, it is very simple; jorginho is a good player whose attributes doesn't work in every system. Some players are like that. If busquet comes to Chelsea he too would flop. There are different types of midfielders with unique skills who need other midfielders to complement them.

Jorginho has previously shown how pivotal he is in a possession based system.
He has always been known for his control of the midfield via passing just like other registas.
I am pointing out that he is not useless like you would want others to believe.

donjazet:

It's not really a simple question because we are yet to even decipher Lampard's system of play. This season has been purely experimental for him with too much chopping and changing of personnel.

Before the restart nobody could predict his starting lineup, he has tried multiple formations this season, so it's earnestly difficult to state for a fact if jorginho would be needed or not for Lampard seeing as even he doesn't know it yet.
I guess only time will tell.

BlueMann:


Spot on.

And I think he actually fits well in Lampard's 4-2-3-1 formation. I remember how he was balling earlier in the season when paired with Kova.

The reason why he wasn't so 'exposed' defensively at Napoli was cause Sardi's ideal style uses a systematic team press as it's defence - like offense is the best form of defence sorta thing. Basically it was a team effort.

But Chelsea under Sarri never really grasped that systematic team press to a satisfactory extent. Same as under Lampard.
So Jorginho playing as a lone DMF here is always going to spell disaster, off the ball especially.

But you're right - he has his qualities, and is good value for what he does when in the right system.

donjazet:


Again, you surprise me with your unintellectual perspective on jorginho, Barcelona and mancity are two teams that use registas in Sergio busquet and rodri. These two players are neither known for goals and assists, they are simply there to recycle possession.

Emaprince:
Since he doesn't fit into our system, then he should be sold out asap!!!

He is costing us matches so no need singing about how his attributes would suite barca or man city play style. After all, caudrado who flopped big time at Chelsea is doing well at a top team like juve and we don't regret shipping him off.

The koko be say, jorginho need to exit the door. With all the passes, I don't even see the assist. Just bunch of safe passes.

And no need com paring him to Xavi or buswuet. Those can even withstand massive pressing from opposition unlike Jorge who gets easily displace when an opponents jersey waves past him. Fabregas with all his escort service will still gautantee you loads of assists unlike that paper weight midfielder.
Any way, he is not my major problem. My own be say kepa should be kicked out. And Abraham benched forever or loaned

Emaprince:
This one go interest you, donjazet

https://www.nairaland.com/5991090/dead-man-forced-out-casket

donjazet:


As usual, gross stupidity and ignorance at display.
Ignorant people will always display their stupid beliefs.
If the headline is to be believed, so because the ambulances brought to transport the dead body developed fault, it automatically means the dead person is responsible.

Stupid displays like these can only be seen in Africa where ignorance reigns supreme and the masses are so gullible to believe rubbish.

donjazet:


As usual, gross stupidity and ignorance at display.
Ignorant people will always display their stupid beliefs.
If the headline is to be believed, so because the ambulances brought to transport the dead body developed fault, it automatically means the dead person is responsible.

Stupid displays like these can only be seen in Africa where ignorance reigns supreme and the masses are so gullible to believe rubbish.

airmark:




Dayo is good in recruiting fools sha. Only that that David is a bit brilliant than ajakaja40.

How you were able to survive among those dolts, is something to be put in ebook.