2good:

You don't even know me and you're telling me not to fall prey of poverty. I know your type. You read so much books and think success is as theoretical as it is stated in books. FYI, I am way out of the poverty class and have nothing else to tell you. Also I dont believe in your bible and your god, so if you want to converse with me, be realistic and not quote from what someone else wrote but instead tell me what you have done and achieve with all your theories and the circumstances you used in achieving them. Enough with all these quotes because I know people that have fallen victim and spoilt their life because they believed in the success story as written by religious authors.

2good:

You don't even know me and you're telling me not to fall prey of poverty. I know your type. You read so much books and think success is as theoretical as it is stated in books. FYI, I am way out of the poverty class and have nothing else to tell you. Also I dont believe in your bible and your god, so if you want to converse with me, be realistic and not quote from what someone else wrote but instead tell me what you have done and achieve with all your theories and the circumstances you used in achieving them. Enough with all these quotes because I know people that have fallen victim and spoilt their life because they believed in the success story as written by religious authors.

logicboby:


Do you really think that your post makes any sense?

1) First you talk about vision. Vision or goals are good but if you dont have any means to achieve them, the vision is a useless.

2) You talk about God and Moses. The old testament is of little relevance to modern day life. God also told Moses on how to regulate slavery in the old testament.

Youngsage:
Cyrexx, i'm afraid you're the one who's not being realistic. From my first post, i didn't mention anywhere that i was in support of 'prosperity preaching' neither did i try to make my post sweet to the ears.
I stated facts, you just probably misunderstood me, and i'll state them again.
Poverty stems from ignorance, a deadly disease. Now note that not academic ignorance, but ignorance of the knowledge to create wealth, potential wealth.
It all arises from the mindset, the mentality. As a man thinketh, so he is. If you think poor, in short term, you will definitely remain poor.
Do you no that wealth surrounds both the rich and the poor? But who gets it first- the rich man. Because the poor man is blinded, by his thoughts, by his friends(other poor men probably), and he probably believes his poverty is a curse, a generational curse, he thinks maybe its my destiny.
The truth is, Poverty is a curse, a wicked master, poor people are his slaves. You may not also know that poverty is a thing of the mind. If you believe you are rich, before you know it, you'll begin confessing it positively. I can go on and on, but a person who is poor mentally and financially, is very ill he needs injection. What injection? The first one will flush the poverty mentality and replace it with wealth mentality.
(wealth 101: secrets to escape poverty).
Summary: get rid of ignorance. A major barrier. Be alert. Knowledge to your geniune wealth may come anywhere, in any format. But its not easy though, pple are just in wrong places at wrong times. Mind you, you dont know where i am or what circumstances i may be /might have been, but like i said b4, it begins 4rm d mindset/thinking.
Do you know the reason why those poor farmers/villagers you mentioned are still poor?
Ignorance it is.
Cheers bro.

DECOtech: P -passing
O -Over
O -opportunities
R -repeatedly

POVERTY IS IGNORANCE. One has to actually CHOOSE to be enlightened.

logicboy:


Poverty is not a choice. There are some situations in which a poor person will remain poor unless by some intervention of the goverment or a rich person or charity. There are poor children in the village that dont get education past primary school because of their poor parents- how are they ever going to be rich without external help?

What about manual factory workers who lose their arms or legs in factory accident. Is it really going to be easy for a handicapped person to be rich in Nigeria if he is already poor?


That Preacher is a fake.

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cyrexx:

1. you said we should think about this and you didn't leave us anything worth thinking about.
2. if poverty is a choice why are most nigerians (who are incidentally very religious) still poor. cant they simply "look ahead" and see as far as they can see. how come only the prosperity preachers have this ability to "look ahead"
3. why do you think God was talking about money when He was talking to Moses. nigerian prosperity preachers are very good at interpreting scriptures to mean just about anything they want it to mean.
4. if poverty is a choice. then you can choose anything that happens to you. you can choose to be born to a rich family, choose to live in the best economy in the world, choose that rain will not disturb your plans etc. is that true? i need ur answer.

ENX_GREAT: I will start with d dude who talked about pple being rich n later in the course of life became poor. Here's my stand on this matter,have u asked yourself how did they end up poor-ans the wrong CHOICES they made. Until u embrace this fact u will remain poor. There are a million stories of pple who were Born poor but never remained in that state because they decided they wanted a better life n pursued It(Again Choices). Listen to d story of a man who conquered poverty n u will see he never gave up in himself or in the hope of a brighter future. I will give u a few tips of how u can free urslf from poverty 1.Giving 2.Persistence 3.Hard work 4.Acknowledging God as ur source So u see pple choice poverty out of ignorance especially God's children. One last advice to folks that speak ill of men of God please for ur sake n that of ur generation unborn stop before u attract d wrath of God in ur finances

ENX_GREAT: I will start with d dude who talked about pple being rich n later in the course of life became poor. Here's my stand on this matter,have u asked yourself how did they end up poor-ans the wrong CHOICES they made. Until u embrace this fact u will remain poor. There are a million stories of pple who were Born poor but never remained in that state because they decided they wanted a better life n pursued It(Again Choices). Listen to d story of a man who conquered poverty n u will see he never gave up in himself or in the hope of a brighter future. I will give u a few tips of how u can free urslf from poverty 1.Giving 2.Persistence 3.Hard work 4.Acknowledging God as ur source So u see pple choice poverty out of ignorance especially God's children. One last advice to folks that speak ill of men of God please for ur sake n that of ur generation unborn stop before u attract d wrath of God in ur finances

mama-gee:
Poverty is not a choice. . .

Saying poverty is a choice is like saying being tall or short is a choice!

crackhouse: pls where in the bible did God told moses to regulate slavery?. I want to start a slave trade but i don't have the constitutional right to kick off, pls if u can give me the bible quotation i will appreciate it. Atleast i will have sth to back it up.

mama-gee:
Poverty is not a choice. . .

Saying poverty is a choice is like saying being tall or short is a choice!

ENX_GREAT: One last advice to folks that speak ill of men of God please for ur sake n that of ur generation unborn stop before u attract d wrath of God in ur finances

crackhouse: Yeah, he said it cos he believes poverty is a choice made by poor people. Probably the man was poor before venturing into church business and now he have found out that church business pays and that he would have remain poor if he had not made that choice. I think that is the reason why he said so.

Youngsage:
Wow! So tell me where u previously saw my post or where i quoted from? I don't have to know you bro, i can tell a lot from the way u're so quick to argue in defence of poverty from your very myopic point of view- Number one symptom of poverty. Now look at you saying you know my type? Haha funny. Well, u say i read so much books, fine. But i do know you dont read books from ur level of understanding. You can't even comprehend my post to see that nothing is theoretical about it. They are simple facts! I was looking at poverty from a general perspective, didn't even cite biblical examples. Well good u made us know how dumb you are though.
You say you are way out of poverty, but you are so dumb to understand that poverty is not only measured in financial terms. You are really a poor dude! Pity.
I can understand your situation 4rm ur last paragraph. So u mean there are no success books written by 'non religious' authors? What stopped them from believing in them then?
Poverty is more than being 'broke'. Some people are poor from the mind. Chronic pessimists

kkulaja: Is poverty a choice?How do I make myself clear enuough using right words @ right time.God help me.
I know environment as a lot of role to play in ones life.if you live in the wrong environment you meet with wrong people sometimes marry wrong wife and bear wrong children.The case of poverty being a choice can be traced down to the mindset,some have the mindset of the rich even when they don't have money and such sometimes are not affected with the environment they live in.let's see examples of some of the effects of the environment.
1.If you are a uk citizen,the govt has free education for you up to secondary level. If you are not working and can prove it the govts gives you GIRO for upkeeps and a house to live in.sometimes some people are very comfortable with this low life and don't even want to work or change it.They buy things from same store as the workers do,they live in same environment with them,so o.only their scale of preference is very high.yes in this case you can say yes poverty is a choice.
In the case of nigeria,you have an ageing mother selling rice under the bridge with her pretty daughter,in her bid to make ends meet,somewhere along the line the daughter got pregnant for "all men deny" she begin carry her cross with the baby.did she choose that path?
When these pastors say things like this,I look and think like in the days of our fathers,they used to make sacrifices to Gods and do stuffs to sell thDeir wares,move higher in heirachy in ur organisation,e t c but now we have neglected such culture as we imitate the oyinbos,
I was in neasden sometime & listened to some jamaicans argue. Sayin "God made man in his own image,no that it is Man that made God in our Image.Rich or Poor is a mindset & environment has a lot in effects of this despite your mindset.you can't apply that in 9ja as u would in UK .Cheers NLers

D sage: All of you saying poverty is a choice were either youths who has never faced with the reality of life or still feeding/paying by their parents. How can pple choose to be poor?

I wonder how a reasonable man open his mouth saying it was ignorant,lack of focus etc that makes pple's poor,while we have many highly educated pple who're still poor and roaming about the streets without jobs.

Nigeria in the 1970s/80s where pple were borned into the poor families and stll make it afterall,was quite different from todays Nigeria where pple inherit poverty,due to unfavourable economic conditions.Its all about opportunity and luck to make it in this country. We should pls,stop blaming others for their predicament,jst because we are fortunate in one way or the other.