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| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Nobody: 8:22pm On May 18, 2012 |
as if there is job for good graduates. we hav many good graduates without job |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Orikinla(m): 8:24pm On May 18, 2012 |
GEJ should start with teaching Patience HOW TO READ. Are the professors to blame for dull students or his maladministration? |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by mankand(m): 8:35pm On May 18, 2012 |
He must be very mad. Nigeria need Mass exodus. So our university for the time been . On stanby mode producing junkies Ha ha ha ha |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by moderattor: 8:37pm On May 18, 2012 |
fellis:That is exactly what you should be studying for the 12 months. Its only a dunce that cant learn causes and effects of tooth aches and diseases within 24 months. This is the problem with Nigeria. Over generational in the academic system. Let dentists study courses pertaining to dentistry alone. And you'll see it wont take up to 24 months. But here they mix it with all the courses related to medicine. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by moderattor: 8:40pm On May 18, 2012 |
dustydee: Electrical engineers need statistics especially when you want to model the behaviour of traffic in a network or in power systems when you want to determine the demand and many other areas.Its not your work to collect the data. All an engineer needs is a look into the chart provided by a statistician and build his Gadget from that. But in our academic system they want engineers to know statistics, know pure mathematics, know algebra, know Linguistics At the end what you get are jack of all trades who cant near a transformer nor build a circuit. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by LSA: 8:41pm On May 18, 2012 |
Would GEJ give those good graduates Jobs if they are eventually produced. He's just a big FOOL 1 Like |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by moderattor: 8:50pm On May 18, 2012 |
SimonAndal: There are you go again, someone who wants to study embedded systems and algorithms should go and study that. Don't mix that with the entire computer science courses. Someone who wants to study operating systems should concentrate and major on that. That way we would produce geniuses in short time. But mixing all these courses will produces all the computer novice graduates we have today. People who did Java in school but still come out to look for extra training on Java. All Mark Zuckerberg knows is PHP All Bill gates knows is C and C++ Not all those mixture contablated contraption of conjucted embedable jargon. Confusing the lecturer and the students. The disciplines should be more targeted and the time spent in school slashed into two. Surgeons should master the art of surgery and leave dentistry to dentists. The computer science department should be generalised and computer disciplines targetted. For instance, graphic design should be a complete department on its own. Dont mix it with computer science and engineering. Programming with Java should be a complete course on its own. Computer is an age not a department. Lastly If you knew who i truly am, you would be sorry for mentioning my IQ. I respect your opinion so much though. 1 Like |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Gaybriel: 9:11pm On May 18, 2012 |
As for me, the best lecturer in my department is an old prof. His handwriting is far better than these young lecturers who just engage in copy and paste. He doesn't give note but you'll be amazed that what you jotted down is quite much. He explains so well that even the dullest student will know a little about the topic. I've come to realise that new and young lecturers are those that victimise students. Professors do not really give students headache except for their technical assignment and questions |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Faraidi(m): 9:16pm On May 18, 2012 |
texazzpete:you are a fool, the lecturers are well paid |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by ishmael(m): 9:25pm On May 18, 2012 |
These profs were able to produce quality graduates in the past because they were younger and very active then, unlike now that they are old. Now that profs would be teaching till they go into their graves, we should also expect to churn out the worst category of graduates in nigeria who will also be thinking the same way as the inactive profs at 65 - 70 years. I blame those who passed that bill, they lost focus on education the day they passed that bill. The graph of the law of diminishing returns should be looked at and studied properly by our senators relating age to output or performance; perhaps they know nothing about it. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by yankison(m): 9:27pm On May 18, 2012 |
moderattor: Good of you brouv Like in the USA , you major in Management information system and take business admins courses generally , even accounting courses are general . That is why US graduatyes are the best and certificates are global coz what you major in you will surely be a professional in it . A bsc in US is. More thab a phd holder in same major in Nigeria True talk moderator |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by valdubem(m): 10:05pm On May 18, 2012 |
''my fellow widow''...........''ojukwu is dead, but his manhood still lives on''  ........courtesy of Mrs Goodluck Jonathan,,,,,,,,,,REMOVE THE LOG OF WOOD IN UR EYES, BEFORE REMOVING THE DUST IN MINE. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by omodada1: 10:23pm On May 18, 2012 |
Fø̲я̅ what? Joblessness? U JU̶̲̥̅̊§τ̲̅ wan talk as if u care Fø̲я̅ the̶̲̥̅̊ Nigerian Future. Go face U̶̲̥̅̊я̲̅ Ogas, BH |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by tonymariao(m): 10:41pm On May 18, 2012 |
moderattor: The entire system is a crap.correct my broda a lot of jargons in sch system without reasonable application in d field...a whole lot of time wasted! |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by tonymariao(m): 10:48pm On May 18, 2012 |
moderattor:Mehn l dey fill u dats d problem with our dear country...a lot of theoritical frivolities in d syllable without any practical back up |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by joelala(m): 11:08pm On May 18, 2012 |
moderattor: The entire system is a crap. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by greall1: 11:28pm On May 18, 2012 |
Produce good securities against BH & electricity |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by jason123: 11:41pm On May 18, 2012 |
From the comments here, it shows that Nigerians are frustrated . . .  |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Nobody: 11:59pm On May 18, 2012 |
moderattor:_ Sorry if I offended you. Just know that Computer Science and Software Engineering, although two different courses at times, have overlapping topics. That's why the course takes four years, so that every aspect of the science can be learnt. And that's why there's Post-Graduate programmes, so that one can go into in-depth specialisation. It's just like in medicine, everybody learns general medicine, then one can specialise in cardio- or neuro- or whatever-io or pediatrics or geriatrics or whatever-ics. Geddit? |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Nobody: 12:00am On May 19, 2012 |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by MaxDick9ja: 1:04am On May 19, 2012 |
Please guys... Lets take it easy on the dude, who knows the amount of grammatical bazukas Dame fires him at night to have made him come up with these plea... It could be an indirect cry for help... So let's cut him some slack thank you very much |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by Nobody: 1:55am On May 19, 2012 |
moderattor: That is exactly what you should be studying for the 12 months. You do realize that dentistry is a branch of medicine, right? How can one study dentistry in only 24 months? It's not only tooth aches and diseases. There are several specialties in medicine. Do you know how many specialties there are in dentistry ALONE? Orthodontics, pediatric dentistry, prosthodontics, and more. The human body is very complex. That's like saying cardiology is only heart beats and blood circulation. Any branch of medicine must require the four years of medical school, followed by internships AND residency before they can practice on their own. Would you allow a dentist with only two years of post-grad education to pull your teeth? Doctors, be it specialized in dentistry or psychiatry, need rigorous training before they put one's life in their hands. In the United States, to graduate with a common Bachelors of Arts or Science degree, two years of general and lower division education, like English, US History, a quantitative reasoning course, etc., are required before they move onto studying their designated focus. When a student reaches medical school, regardless of if that student wants to do dermatology, dentistry, surgery, internal medicine, etc., ALL medical students have two years of the same general medicine course work which include topics like nutrition, human anatomy/physiology, and psychology. It's after completion of the general two years that a doctor can move into clinicals in their desired fields. Doing what you suggests only leads to narrow-mindedness. Imagine if one decides they don't want to do what they're studying again. How many years has that student wasted? We need well-rounded graduates. That's the bottom line. 1 Like |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by sanusimuslim: 2:32am On May 19, 2012 |
E am surprised GEJ is talking to professors like that, who advise him naa? You phd talking to prof that they should produce good graduate, are they your mate? Have you eat your #3million food for to day. It is Abdullahi that advice you on that. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by ishmael(m): 3:01am On May 19, 2012 |
Most of them have out- lived there usefulness. We need younger and vibrant profs to bring back the glory in our our educational system and graduates and not keeping the old ones to teach what they know how to do best in their on ways when obviously their counterparts in the US and other pseudo- stable countries have replaced with newer and better theories and techniques.. Only few can do research now. Can't we have profs that are, say between 45 and 55 years? If things were ok in nigeria, no prof would want to die still working after attaining the age of 60 years. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by rosscoe: 5:35am On May 19, 2012 |
Funny President. Just a couple of days ago an old professor had to scale a tall fence when Boko haram attacked. Is that the situation that would foster good graduates. If the man provides Infrastructure and employment then he can start talking. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by cynthiafred67(f): 7:17am On May 19, 2012 |
OAM4J: GEJ should produce good governance first. #Gbam +1000 |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by melvournis(f): 9:28am On May 19, 2012 |
 They become less active upstairs. We need younger profs to do the teaching and research while the old ones should be retired and be only consulted if need be |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by yuzedo: 9:29am On May 19, 2012 |
So that they don't end up like you right? A Ph.D holder who says "Job Security" is when D'Banj is performing on stage and Mopol is guarding him? Or your wife, Dame P, whose linguistic skills are responsible for global warming and the crisis in the middle-east? |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by ishmael(m): 9:30am On May 19, 2012 |
The funny thing is that GEJ knew these profs were grooming and producing low quality graduates and he still went ahead to sign the bill for them to still be grooming low quality graduates till they get to 70 years. Any way they are his colleagues, and "birds of same feather flock together" |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by kutchs: 9:50am On May 19, 2012 |
Why Nigerians are never pleased is wot surprises me. When the last ASUU strike was on pple were here blasting GEJ for not doing anything to end the strike, blasting him for not granting the demands of ASUU and now he has done so the same pple are out in droves condemning his action. What the hell is wrong with us. I personally never supported the 70 yr shit (am a lecturer myself) but if it was wot was needed for peace and stability to return to our schools why blame GEJ for toeing the line of peace. Everyone wants an uninterrupted academic calender but no one is ready to condemn unreasonable and selfish demands made by ASUU, COEASU etc. |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by manibuds(m): 10:40am On May 19, 2012 |
its not the age of the profs/lecturers but what they've acquired with their age.I had profs(<60yrs at that time) bringing tattered notes to class,he never worked one day in his chosen field.from B.Sc to M.Sc to Phd,then straight to lecture,may be develop his notes for the first 2 sessions,after that zilch!graduates of certain fields are worst hit.we have a whopping 20yrs between 50 and 70,anybody who wants to be a lecturer should first work at least 20years in their chosen field.imagine jim ovia teaching you a course in banking and finance,or somebody who has worked with folawiyo farms for 20 years teaching you about poultry and catfish.Did Jonathan himself prove himself in his field of study?It is also true that our profs create a lot useless courses that they would not have created if they were running their own private universities.the teaching hospital format should be adopted for all courses,i.e. an establishment where you get opportunity to 'do' what you learned,lack of basic practical skills of graduates messes up professors the way bribe collecting messes up the nigerian police,an african zoology graduate who has never seen elephant,rhino,gorilla not to talk of black panther 2 Likes |
| Re: Produce Good Graduates: Jonathan Tell Professors by chagga(m): 10:56am On May 19, 2012 |
Orikinla: GEJ should start from teaching Patience HOW TO READ,Maybe he doesn't want graduates like his wife that's is why he is advising them to do their jobs well. Lectures this days are very lazy can u imagine some of them are still using the same notes for more than 20 years. The advise to this lecturers is very necessary |
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