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Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by fesse(f): 10:57am On Jun 14, 2012
Kobojunkie: Even the US government has more access to your own Government and it's dealings than any Nigerian in Nigeria can claim. So let's not even attempt to turn this into an US vs THEM issue.

What we seek is connection to those who have access to the data. They are human beings. . . 100's of them not cabal members as you purport. They wake up early each morning like other hardworking individuals to go manage this data for the Nation. What we are simply looking for is how to connect to these individuals so we can successfully achieve our goal, and this is really for the sake of Nigerians, not the cabal or any elite group out there.

Bear in mind that FOI has been signed into law, so let's drop this old way of thinking already.
Those individuals are under oath and are being monitored too.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Demdem(m): 10:57am On Jun 14, 2012
fesse: And you think the Ordinary Nigerian will be allowed to access those information. As a human being you have some secrets that your wife is not aware of, so is applicable to the government. Is not even everything that Freedom of Information Bill is going to have access to.
Let me get u well. are u saying these info are meant to remain secret?

A-ZeD:
Hi everyone, please does anyone know how a person say me can get access to the spending of the FG?
when i say access, i mean a way to know approved projects,schedules of projects to be executed, protocols for release of funds e.t.c.
contacts of relevant offices are highly appreciated.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 10:59am On Jun 14, 2012
fesse: Those individuals are under oath and are being monitored too.
Don't worry about this. We are not trying to steal the data from them. Neither are we trying to get them to ILLEGALLY get us the data. We are simply trying to get access to the people who have direct access to the information we need. And then we will fill out any necessary paperwork in order to plug into that data.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by fesse(f): 11:03am On Jun 14, 2012
Kobojunkie: First we get access to the people who actually deal with the data. Now on questioning them on how we could possibly access the data, they may reveal the process we would need to go through, and we intend to follow that.

Again, don't concern yourselves with the details of how we will access it. What we are looking for is DIRECT CONNECTION to those who actually work with this data. We will, at that point, discover for ourselves what limitations FOI has, or does not have FOI.
My dear unless you have a close relative that work with this data you might not succeed. Mind you that person is being monitored every now and then, even his phones. Talking from experience, it might be easy in the western world but here in Nigeria.....
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by dein77(m): 11:05am On Jun 14, 2012
Demdem: how dare u grin grin grin
What do u take this govt for? dont u know these are confidential secrets of the states.
U are either a spy from the opposition, an Yoruba man or Aboki. haters of the president that are interested only in his downfall.
Kiss ma asss. grin grin grin
HE ONLY ASKED A QUESTION!!!
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 11:09am On Jun 14, 2012
fesse: My dear unless you have a close relative that work with this data you might not succeed. Mind you that person is being monitored every now and then, even his phones. Talking from experience, it might be easy in the western world but here in Nigeria.....
Again, nothing ILLEGAL in asking a person for information on how to LEGALLY access data that belongs to Nigeria, and Nigerians.

If you are not aware of the FOI law, I suggest you please take a look at it to understand why what you are suggesting is OLD NIGERIA MENTALITY, and honestly should remain there.

Foreigners have been able to tap directly into information on Nigeria with no problems but the minute a fellow Nigerian asks for the same information, you immediately suggest it is impossible? Come on!!! The law allows this.

Stop making it seems there are no such laws, and yes, laws are only as effective as the people who take advantage of them. If, for instance, there was a law that entitled Nigerians to $100 pocket money each month, but millions do not take advantage of the law. The law will not be to blame if these millions starve to death at the end of the day.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by AZeD1(op): 11:47am On Jun 14, 2012
Kobojunkie: Again, nothing ILLEGAL in asking a person for information on how to LEGALLY access data that belongs to Nigeria, and Nigerians.

If you are not aware of the FOI law, I suggest you please take a look at it to understand why what you are suggesting is OLD NIGERIA MENTALITY, and honestly should remain there.

Foreigners have been able to tap directly into information on Nigeria with no problems but the minute a fellow Nigerian asks for the same information, you immediately suggest it is impossible? Come on!!! The law allows this.

Stop making it seems there are no such laws, and yes, laws are only as effective as the people who take advantage of them. If, for instance, there was a law that entitled Nigerians to $100 pocket money each month, but millions do not take advantage of the law. The law will not be to blame if these millions starve to death at the end of the day.
Thanks kobo for all your replies and posts.

@All, the information is needed for a project. We(kobo & i) are not working for any politician we just need the data for a project.

tiniyata: I work with the civil service n I have access to such but can't give it to u...u might be a mole
Dude can you give me an official channel i can send the request to?
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by bisiaet: 11:50am On Jun 14, 2012
This is the most unexpected thread of the year. I could not understand the sense in this sort of quest to be honest. Its so funny indeed asking this kind of question on Nairaland.

Is nairaland a government agency? or EFCC agenthuh? Brosie pls go Aso Rock and look for such information abeg.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by member479760: 12:03pm On Jun 14, 2012
where you wan see dat one, when the last time Ribadu collected bribe money according to him dump ham for one corner in CBN no account. Lawan collected his own put ham for pocket until the thin gas.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Nobody:
Kobojunkie: If you are not aware of the FOI law, I suggest you please take a look at it to understand why what you are suggesting is OLD NIGERIA MENTALITY, and honestly should remain there.
impossible? Come on!!! The law allows this, and yes, laws are only as effective as the people who take advantage of them.
Since you are so sure that the FoI bill defined a NEW NIGERIA, why don't you go ahead and invoke it to help solve our poster's problem. If it works, I'll admit my naivety. I don't understand what you're trying to prove with your acerbity. Nigeria is broken and needs fixing. That a bill is passed into law doesn't mean it works in this great nation. There's a fat difference between REALITY and IDEALITY.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by fesse(f): 12:23pm On Jun 14, 2012
Demdem: Let me get u well. are u saying these info are meant to remain secret?
It remained top secret unless the person in control compromise.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by fesse(f): 12:30pm On Jun 14, 2012
Kobojunkie: Again, nothing ILLEGAL in asking a person for information on how to LEGALLY access data that belongs to Nigeria, and Nigerians.

If you are not aware of the FOI law, I suggest you please take a look at it to understand why what you are suggesting is OLD NIGERIA MENTALITY, and honestly should remain there.

Foreigners have been able to tap directly into information on Nigeria with no problems but the minute a fellow Nigerian asks for the same information, you immediately suggest it is impossible? Come on!!! The law allows this.

Stop making it seems there are no such laws, and yes, laws are only as effective as the people who take advantage of them. If, for instance, there was a law that entitled Nigerians to $100 pocket money each month, but millions do not take advantage of the law. The law will not be to blame if these millions starve to death at the end of the day.

It is better you go thru a "foreigner" (as you claimed)to get it easily than to confide in those in possession of what you are looking for because they will make it so difficult for you.

The law is on ground, yes i agree but will the people that make the law allow you to take advantage of them. Well i wish you luck.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by fesse(f): 12:33pm On Jun 14, 2012
1supremo: Since you are so sure that the FoI bill defined a NEW NIGERIA, why don't you go ahead and invoke it to help solve our poster's problem. If it works, I'll admit my naivety. I don't understand what you're trying to prove with your acerbity. Nigeria is broken and needs fixing. That a bill is passed into law doesn't mean it works in this great nation. There's a fat difference between REALITY and IDEALITY.
God bless you @ d bold. They think the system down here is same up there.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by AZeD1(op): 12:38pm On Jun 14, 2012
bisiaet: This is the most unexpected thread of the year. I could not understand the sense in this sort of quest to be honest. Its so funny indeed asking this kind of question on Nairaland.

Is nairaland a government agency? or EFCC agenthuh? Brosie pls go Aso Rock and look for such information abeg.
Dude we are asking for a anyone who knows anyone we can ask contact details.
fesse: God bless you @ d bold. They think the system down here is same up there.
We know how the system works but we are willing to try our best.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by fesse(f): 12:43pm On Jun 14, 2012
A-ZeD:
Dude we are asking for a anyone who knows anyone we can ask contact details.

We know how the system works but we are willing to try our best.
I wish you the goodluck best of luck.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 12:59pm On Jun 14, 2012
1supremo: Since you are so sure that the FoI bill defined a NEW NIGERIA, why don't you go ahead and invoke it to help solve our poster's problem. If it works, I'll admit my naivety. I don't understand what you're trying to prove with your acerbity. Nigeria is broken and needs fixing. That a bill is passed into law doesn't mean it works in this great nation. There's a fat difference between REALITY and IDEALITY.
Why is it hard for you folks to wrap your minds around what is being asked here? If you do not have the information we seek, it is OK not to post at all?
Again, Foreigners have been taking advantage of this law for the past year. Why does it then become IMPOSSIBLE when a Nigerian simply asks you for information on the particular office to contact in other to invoke this right? Please move on if you do not have the information we seek.


PS. FOI is not a Bill but a law. Let me worry about how I go about the REALITY of this project while you worry more on how you can either get me the information requested or move on.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by donbigboy(m): 1:28pm On Jun 14, 2012
Hello, what you are asking for is not impossible to get. But my questions remains what the hell do you wants to use it for? From what i have read on your post i dont really think anyone with this information will just realised it to you" JUST LIKE THAT" some of us have this thing year in year out but of course it doesnt come cheap. Again this is an official government property ok. If it's a wish stop it but if it's a dream, just "keep on keeping on"
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 1:31pm On Jun 14, 2012
donbigboy: Hello, what you are asking for is not impossible to get. But my questions remains what the hell do you wants to use it for? From what i have read on your post i dont really think anyone with this information will just realised it to you" JUST LIKE THAT" some of us have this thing year in year out but of course it doesnt come cheap. Again this is an official government property ok. If it's a wish stop it but if it's a dream, just "keep on keeping on"
What are you still talking about? If you really want to know what it is to be used for, go to the main thread and start there go gain an understanding please.

[size=14pt]STOP TRYING TO TELL US HOW WE CANNOT GET IT. TELL US HOW WE CAN GET IT OR MOVE ON![/size]

Thread is on its second page and we have nothing but USELESS INFORMATION SPEWED MOSTLY BY people who do not even know their left from their right!
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Nobody: 1:52pm On Jun 14, 2012
Kobojunkie: Why is it hard for you folks to wrap your minds around what is being asked here? If you do not have the information we seek, it is OK not to post at all?
Again, Foreigners have been taking advantage of this law for the past year. Why does it then become IMPOSSIBLE when a Nigerian simply asks you for information on the particular office to contact in other to invoke this right? Please move on if you do not have the information we seek.


PS. FOI is not a Bill but a law. Let me worry about how I go about the REALITY of this project while you worry more on how you can either get me the information requested or move on.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jun 14, 2012
Kobojunkie: Again, Foreigners have been taking advantage of this law for the past year. Why does it then become IMPOSSIBLE when a Nigerian simply asks you for information on the particular office to contact in other to invoke this right? Please move on if you do not have the information we seek.
.
Since you're mighty sure that foreigners have been enjoying the privilege of the FoI, what's the point in soliciting help from natives. Go to some FOREIGN forum and ask them how.
You act like you have the answer to the question you're asking, though I know the only thing you have is wind.

PS: FYI Nairaland is the brain child of a nigerian, not a foreigner. NO OFFENCE INTENDED.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 2:06pm On Jun 14, 2012
1supremo: Since you're mighty sure that foreigners have been enjoying the privilege of the FoI, what's the point in soliciting help from natives. Go to some FOREIGN forum and ask them how.
You act like you have the answer to the question you're asking, though I know the only thing you have is wind.

PS: FYI Nairaland is the brain child of a nigerian, not a foreigner. NO OFFENCE INTENDED.
Since it is more than obvious at this point that you either do not have any tangible information to offer, or you do not wish to help, my question to you is why do you continue to post on this thread?

What obligates you to post on this issue, even after you have been told that if you do not have answers, your responses are not welcome at all? undecided undecided undecided

What has the Nationality of the owner of Nairaland to do with Freedom of Information Law in Nigeria, and it's application? undecided undecided undecided
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by kiyosaki1(m): 3:38pm On Jun 14, 2012
I can get it for you but we need to first reach certain agreementment. if you are serious send me how you can be contacted
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 4:00pm On Jun 14, 2012
kiyosaki1: I can get it for you but we need to first reach certain agreementment. if you are serious send me how you can be contacted
If you are looking for compensation, sorry we don't do that. If you have a contact to share(name, phone number, email, etc.) Please post it or forget this thread even exists. This is not a call for all the 419ers out there to wait up that new bait is here. This is simply a request for information on how to go about LEGALLY obtaining information that , really, belongs in the public domain.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by kiyosaki1(m): 4:13pm On Jun 14, 2012
wish you good luck in your goose chase.It's very insulting for you to even been talking those thrash to my own personality how much are you worth as a person serious muffin
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 4:14pm On Jun 14, 2012
kiyosaki1: wish you good luck in your goose chase.It's very insulting for you to even been talking those thrash to my own personality how much are you worth as a person serious muffin
Again, this is not about your worth or how big you think your head is. This is simply a request for information on how to obtain or get access to the necessary information.
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 6:20pm On Jun 14, 2012
Anyone work at the Ministry of Finance? Since the ministry seems in charge of projects, I wonder if this is not a good place to start. Have sent email using the address below but it does not seem the person is available to respond. I am not sure how sending a general mail to the address below would help.If you have a particular officer's name to give us, please that will be greatly appreciated.

Federal Ministry of Finance (FMF)
Ahmadu Bello Way, Central Business District
Abuja, Nigeria
E: enquiries@fmf.gov.ng
PMB 14, Abuja, Nigeria
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 8:49pm On Jun 14, 2012
I just tried creating an account so I could gain access to
http://www.nigeriafederaltenders.gov.ng/

And I got the below email response. Imagine that? A supposed Government website, and the email address it maps to is the one in bold below.

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:57 PM, <ochima@contentoasis.com> wrote:
Thank you for Registering. Your username is: *****

And the password: *****

Go back to http://www.nigeriafederaltenders.gov.ng/
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 8:55pm On Jun 14, 2012
This is another site that might be useful. If it is possible to directly contact or reach someone there, that might help move us a step closer to our goal

http://www.bpp.gov.ng/

Bureau of Public Procurement
No. 11 Sulaiman Barau Street
Presidential Villa
Abuja.

Tel: +234.9.625.2377; +234.9.625.2380
Fax: 09-6252379

Emails:
info@bpp.gov.ng
comunication@bpp.gov.ng,
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 8:59pm On Jun 14, 2012
Link to another possibly useful site

http://federalcontractors.bpp.gov.ng/Default.aspx
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie: 9:32pm On Jun 14, 2012
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by donbigboy(m): 9:48pm On Jun 14, 2012
[It's quite obvious that some people lack basic sense of reasoning, you open a trends as sensitive as a federal government budgets spending and expenditures on nairaland, and you just assumed people will just gave you those vital information like a pieces of cake right, YOU MUST BE A JOKE, PLS GO AND GET A LIFE , YOU ARE A BIG FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, YES FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: How Do I Get Official Documents Relating To Goverment Spending. by Kobojunkie:
donbigboy: [It's quite obvious that some people lack basic sense of reasoning, you open a trends as sensitive as a federal government budgets spending and expenditures on nairaland, and you just assumed people will just gave you those vital information like a pieces of cake right, YOU MUST BE A JOKE, PLS GO AND GET A LIFE , YOU ARE A BIG FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, YES FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Yep, Spoken like the classic Nigerian eeejits do . . . the data is already FREELY available online for all Nigerians, and foreigners alike, to access. Stop thinking you are smart and instead work harder at show you really are.

What you already deemed TOO SENSITIVE for you to be given access to is freely available to the world. You need to show you are worth respecting at least so your government makes information of this type known to you and yours.
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