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Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:26am On Jun 23, 2012 |
chidexy: Um.. . . again, the House CAN SUMMON ANYONE(ANYONE means EVERYONE especially when there are no exceptions specified), so says the Constitution. . . . and as long as NO ONE is EXEMPT FROM THAT RULE(THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS APPLIED FOR ANYONE), thats mean that the HOUSE can summon even the president. You claimed to speak of a PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM, then I suggest you get to work READING UP ON YOUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT IT SAYS. It is the same even here in the UNITED states. Please Educate yourself especially since I see you have followers to seem to cling to your words there. IF THE CONSTITUTIONS MAKES NO EXCEPTION, the the rule applies to ALL and SUNDRY. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Beaf: 1:29am On Jun 23, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: [size=14pt]When has congress ever summoned the US President, liar? Thats the question, liar.[/size] |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Johndoe100(m): 1:37am On Jun 23, 2012 |
Beaf: Word!!!!! |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:55am On Jun 23, 2012 |
see them, just like their aboki brothers, wanting to twist nature to suit their evil desires. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by tern: 12:08pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
maclatunji: Hahahahaha- Power resides with the people and the National Assembly is the constitutional representative of the people. They can summon anybody in Nigeria. See how people just post without any valid points raised. Farouk Lawan's case is separate from GEJ and in any case is being handled by the House through its institutional mechanisms. Already, the man has been suspended, which official in the Executive has GEJ suspended or sacked in view of very detailed allegations and evidence of corruption? If you cannot find any, let me point one out for you, the extra-budgetary spending on oil subsidy. Where did the money come from and how did this government spend it without appropriation by the National Assembly? GEJ has a lot of questions to answer and this is not the Presidential campaign debate that he manipulated to serve his purposes. Gbam!! You're very correct. A lot of us shy away from the truth and tend to be sentimental about issues rather than being objective. farouk lawan is a member of the house of rep. and not the house rep. the house of rep is constitutionally empowered to invite anybody to for questioning. if Jona has nothing to hide, he should responsibly honour their invitation. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 12:29pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Again . . . chidexy: Um.. . . again, the House CAN SUMMON ANYONE(ANYONE means EVERYONE especially when there are no exceptions specified), so says the Constitution. . . . and as long as NO ONE is EXEMPT FROM THAT RULE(THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS APPLIED FOR ANYONE), thats mean that the HOUSE can summon even the president. You claimed to speak of a PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM, then I suggest you get to work READING UP ON YOUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT IT SAYS. It is the same even here in the UNITED states. Please Educate yourself especially since I see you have followers to seem to cling to your words there. IF THE CONSTITUTIONS MAKES NO EXCEPTION, the the rule applies to ALL and SUNDRY. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by maclatunji: 12:38pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Don't worry, did Bill Clinton not face questioning by the US Congress? GEJ's time is coming. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 12:44pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
maclatunji: Don't worry, did Bill Clinton not face questioning by the US Congress? GEJ's time is coming.that was an impeachment |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 12:50pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.: There is no special case made in the Constitution for impeachment trial summoning of the president by Congress that I have seen or read of, either in the US constitution or the Nigerian Constitution. Summoning is a summoning, whether for impeachment purposes or questions on other issues. In Nigeria's case, since the President is in Charge of Security and the Armed forces, it makes even more sense that the President should expect to be summon more often than, say an American President would. Rather than continuing to submit the same tripe each time, why not show us, the people, where exactly you get your idea of a summoning of the president being only applicable for purpose of impeachments. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 12:54pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
yes there are crystal clear conditions for an impeachment. The process must be endorsed by at least a 2/3 majority of bout houses and the impeachment process will be a joint hearing by both houses. Clinton was impeached that's why he gave a video conferencing. An impeachment process is also an impeachment weather you survive it or not. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:08pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.: Do not try to confuse us here by pretending the impeachment process [/b]somehow explains away a summoning. In both cases summoning rules are dealt with separat from the impeachment [b]process. Instead, Tell us where these crystal clear conditions on IMPEACHMENT-ONLY SUMMONING can be found in the Constitution . . . Please SHOW US, don't tell us!! |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:12pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Because the National Assembly cannot extend an invitation to the President or any citizen with full immunity that's why. And in case you forgot the ultimate ruling house is not the Legislative but the Supreme court which has the power to interpret any piece of legislation or law and decree it either constitutional or unconstitutional. So if the supreme court can't subpoena the President what makes you think the House can? |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:14pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Whenever the President is addressing the house, it is never an interrogative affair rather a declaration. Do not confuse budgetary proposals and war declarations as a summons since the President is not expected to be interrupted or questioned. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:19pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.: Stop making things up! What are you rambling about now? The constitution does not need to be interpreted by the courts before NASS can take advantage of the powers bestowed on it. Many of the rules are in plain English and if needs to be changed, NASS does that, not the courts. The courts have no powers over the House. Please read your own constitution before you yap on. Again Kobojunkie: Instead, Tell us where these crystal clear conditions on IMPEACHMENT-ONLY SUMMONING can be found in the Constitution . . . Please SHOW US, don't tell us!! |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:21pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.: Enough of the Bulls-hitting Again Kobojunkie: Instead, Tell us where these crystal clear conditions on IMPEACHMENT-ONLY SUMMONING can be found in the Constitution . . . Please SHOW US, don't tell us!! |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:28pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: the supreme court can rule any piece of legislation that is deemed unconstitutional. For example the criminalization of Gays can be argued as an infringement of civil liberties and personal rights and dignities. The house passed that bill but it can be overturned by the Supreme court if argued. There have been many bills passed by state Assemblies in the U.S. that have been overturned by the Supreme court. FACT. Secondly, to demonstrate the enormous power the President wields, He/She can actually suspend the constitution through introduction of Marshal Law and thus make the House go on a long recess. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:30pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.:Again . .. Enough of the Bulls-hitting and attempts at derailing the discussion. . . You probably love to read your own yaps, and that is fine for you . . . . Most of us just want to deal with the facts Kobojunkie: Instead, Tell us where these crystal clear conditions on IMPEACHMENT-ONLY SUMMONING can be found in the Constitution . . . Please SHOW US, don't tell us!! Show us where in the Constitution it is written. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:30pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
If you so much want the house to summon the President why not lobby your representative to start an impeachment process, that's their only chance but the impeachment must be supported by a clear breach of conduct over a specific crime or crimes committed while in Office. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:32pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
The Judiciary if you must know is a 3rd arm of Government which wields a lot of power as well. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:32pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.:Again . .. Enough of the Bulls-hitting and attempts at derailing the discussion. . . You probably love to read your own yaps, and that is fine for you . . . . Most of us just want to deal with the facts Kobojunkie: Instead, Tell us where these crystal clear conditions on IMPEACHMENT-ONLY SUMMONING can be found in the Constitution . . . Please SHOW US, don't tell us!! Show us where in the Constitution it is written. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by icez: 1:34pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.: +10000. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:37pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.:Again . .. Enough of the Bulls-hitting and attempts at derailing the discussion. . . You probably love to read your own yaps, and that is fine for you . . . . Most of us just want to deal with the facts Kobojunkie: Instead, Tell us where these crystal clear conditions on IMPEACHMENT-ONLY SUMMONING can be found in the Constitution . . . Please SHOW US, don't tell us!! Show us where in the Constitution it is written. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:39pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
am i your paralegal. why can't you just stop insulting or talking down on somebody who isn't in agreement with you? |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:41pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
You ARE not a paralegal but you can make statements you are unable to substantiate? Anyways, you have wasted enough of my time. Goodluck! |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 1:42pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Anyways, Back to sanity . . . chidexy: Um.. . . again, the House CAN SUMMON ANYONE(ANYONE means EVERYONE), so says the Constitution. . . . and as long as NO ONE is EXEMPT FROM THAT RULE(THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS APPLIED FOR ANYONE), thats mean that the HOUSE can summon even the president. You claimed to speak of a PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEM, then I suggest you get to work READING UP ON YOUR CONSTITUTION AND WHAT IT SAYS. It is the same even here in the UNITED states. Please Educate yourself especially since I see you have followers to seem to cling to your words there. IF THE CONSTITUTIONS MAKES NO EXCEPTION, the the rule applies to ALL and SUNDRY. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by ODB1: 1:49pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Because am no longer interested in arguing with your dense self doesn't mean it's time to celebrate a victory and when I told you am not your paralegal it means am not your research boy. wallow in your own swine filth of ignorance. When it backfires on those apprentice law makers as is usually the case, don't come here screaming that the House was once again undermined by GEJ. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Eagle75: 2:21pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B. u get time ooo, you've made ur point just move on. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by tribalism(m): 3:20pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
a house without integrity. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by maclatunji: 3:22pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
O.D.B.: My point exactly. |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by porka: 7:56pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: Hello Madam, I can see that you are trying very hard to justify this nonsense summons. While the constitution gives the power of summons to the NASS, it also gives the president immunity against arrest (prosecution) which is the only recourse the NASS has in case the person summon refused the summons. So if you cannot effect the arrest of the president when he refuses (he will not go because no president has thus been summon and Jonathan will not lay a precedence), why issue the summons. What exactly will they do if he refused to appear before them? Call for impeachment? Then they are going to cause one of the gravest security challenges this country has ever faced, i.e. the resurgence of ND militancy. And then the security challenge will just escalate. Now tell me, how has that solve their problems? |
Re: Jonathan Must Come To NASS, Reps Insist by Kobojunkie: 8:12pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
porka: Since it seems a lot of you are simply here to argue blindly. Let me help you
porka:While the above response from the Constitution already address the compelling of the person to appear, I should ask that you learn to DISCONNECT issues appropriately. A Summons by NASS has NOTHING to do with immunity, or arrest but usually a call to testify or answer questions. When you want to discuss Immunity then you talk of the courts being involved and NASS is not the Nigerian Court.
porka: Please go study your constitution, and learn the meaning and application of these words, so you do not come back asking me of things that are clearly explained in that document. Again, a Summons is NOT an accusation or suggestion of guilt. It is simply a summon. The constitution explains why it can happen, when, and what happens if turned down. If the President turns it down without consequence, then anyone else can, and should EQUALLY be able to turn it down without consequence. |
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