Xander85:


True dat!

It's just the greedy leaders we had during independence who wanted to take over the privileges and material benefits from the white man that they had been watching and envying for decades! Some were genuinely able and had the burning desire to manage the affairs of the newly emergent nation, but they were overwhelmed and outnumbered by the greedy, tribalistic and visionless ones. Not to mention the fact that Nigeria was starting the journey of independence with a huge handicap of schisms, antagonisms and mistrust between its component units.

Personally, i wish the British had stayed to at least the 80s, to help save us from ourselves.....or alternatively, broken up Nigeria so we could all go our separate ways on 1st oct' 1960.

Xander85:


True dat!

It's just the greedy leaders we had during independence who wanted to take over the privileges and material benefits from the white man that they had been watching and envying for decades! Some were genuinely able and had the burning desire to manage the affairs of the newly emergent nation, but they were overwhelmed and outnumbered by the greedy, tribalistic and visionless ones. Not to mention the fact that Nigeria was starting the journey of independence with a huge handicap of schisms, antagonisms and mistrust between its component units.

Personally, i wish the British had stayed to at least the 80s, to help save us from ourselves.....or alternatively, broken up Nigeria so we could all go our separate ways on 1st oct' 1960.

horsepower101:


The British never left. They handed Nigeria to their care takers.

If the British truely left, they wouldn’t have massively intervened in the civil war which biafrans were winning in the initial stages of the war.

They only left on paper.

People have to watch some historical documentaries to realize that it was America that forced them to let go of their colonies. If it wasn’t that they could have stay and continued their full blown exploitation.

They took raw materials free of charge from us to the UK for 80 years. That’s probably over 200 billion of dollars in today’s money.

The infrastructure they built was mostly for themselves and exporting raw materials.

If you haven’t lived under colonial rule, then you have glorifying it. It’s almost like glorified slavery.

Afam4eva:

If the British had stayed longer we would have just being like Black South Africans, who are modern day slaves to the white establishment. We may not be where we hope to be but never pray to be a slave in whatever form. We still have our destinies in our own hands and we can determine our own fate. The only thing i think bedevelling us is corruption and of course the unwillingless of the government at the center to decentralize power to the constituent units.

horsepower101:


Gbam. Nigeria has to restructure or its doomed to colaspe on its own weight. To make it worse, we have a parasitic region that has no understanding of economic and the massive threat we are facing. Their only aim is to preserve the status quo no matter who suffers.

Afam4eva:

The Northerners do not care. They are not as ambitious as the south or Igbos in this case, so they can as well sit on the progressof the country granted it benefits them.

horsepower101:


They day igbos can have unlimited control of their own destiny is the day a true black and powerful people will emerge. It’s unfortunate that we have so many dragging us down in this Nigeria with their hopelessness, lack of ambition and parasitic attitudes.

One thing I know in life is that nothing good last for ever. One day all this will end.

Xander85:


Well, it's not like i'm 'glorifying colonial rule' as you put it. Just being pragmatic about the whole thing....choosing the lesser of two evils, and weighing the situation of Ndigbo during colonial rule vis-a-vis what we have today in a purportedly 'independent and democratic' Nigeria. What i'm saying is that i'd rather the British stayed till at least the 80s to help save us from ourselves, than leave on 1st oct' 1960 and hand a fractured and divided Nigeria (b'cos that's exactly what Nigeria was, no matter how we try to gloss over it) over to a bunch of bickering, insecure, bigoted and ill-prepared so called 'founding-fathers' and 'heroes past'!

Afam4eva:

As much as this is true, we as Igbos have a lot of problems bedevelling us that is greater than being a country filled with people who want to pull us down.

Having analyzing all igbo states in comparison to other states in the federation, i've come to the conclusion that ne of our problems is "Intellectual flight" or "Brain Brain" as we love to call it in Nigeria.

The reason for the lack of ambition of the people we call Governors in Igboland is because the citizenry do not demand those things. For instance, there's no reason why Abians will elect derelics like Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodoore Orji and Ikpeazu in succession, except for the fact that most people in Abia state are either less edducated or haave been hypnotized not to know what it good for them in the long term. That's why a sitting governor can go about sharing kerosine all over the place. Now, imagine if Enlightened Igbos in Lagos, Abuja, America and the UK actually moved to Igboland ad setup shops either as doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers etc, don't you think they will elect more credible leaders that actually has something to offer rather than distributing kerosene.

All we need to do is to repatriate our best brains. Ugwuanyi will not build a space center in Enugu except we actually have world class scientist that are ready to settle in Enugu and demand that a space center be built. As long as our people in the east keep demanding "Ota Aka" kind of services, that's what they will get from the government.

horsepower101:


You are 100% correct. We have a massive brain drain and the less educated keep running and and being voted in by other less educated people.

But the Nigerian factor is the real reason that the brain drain is happening. That’s basically my point.

There are so many igbos that will come back home if they feel that the Nigerian dysfunction won’t affect them. Example is if we were to go back to regionalism where we have good control of our destiny.

Xander85:
Enugu municipal offices in the 60s. Anyone knows if this building is still standing and where in Enugu it is?

horsepower101:


They day igbos can have unlimited control of their own destiny is the day a true black and powerful people will emerge. It’s unfortunate that we have so many dragging us down in this Nigeria with their hopelessness, lack of ambition and parasitic attitudes.

One thing I know in life is that nothing good last for ever. One day all this will end. We will have the last laugh.

sonature1:


These guys were hasty in making this decision.
From the look of things, I don't think Nigeria is ready for independence. Look how the colonial masters transformed South Africa.

Afam4eva:

As much as this is true, we as Igbos have a lot of problems bedevelling us that is greater than being a country filled with people who want to pull us down.

Having analyzing all igbo states in comparison to other states in the federation, i've come to the conclusion that ne of our problems is "Intellectual flight" or "Brain Brain" as we love to call it in Nigeria.

The reason for the lack of ambition of the people we call Governors in Igboland is because the citizenry do not demand those things. For instance, there's no reason why Abians will elect derelics like Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodoore Orji and Ikpeazu in succession, except for the fact that most people in Abia state are either less edducated or haave been hypnotized not to know what it good for them in the long term. That's why a sitting governor can go about sharing kerosine all over the place. Now, imagine if Enlightened Igbos in Lagos, Abuja, America and the UK actually moved to Igboland ad setup shops either as doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers etc, don't you think they will elect more credible leaders that actually has something to offer rather than distributing kerosene.

All we need to do is to repatriate our best brains. Ugwuanyi will not build a space center in Enugu except we actually have world class scientist that are ready to settle in Enugu and demand that a space center be built. As long as our people in the east keep demanding "Ota Aka" kind of services, that's what they will get from the government.

Omnibus:
The only way to stop Igbo brain drain to other regions is to secede the country. Igbo intellectuals are too relaxed being outside their region, secede will force a lot of them back permanently.

Xander85:


Well, it's not like i'm 'glorifying colonial rule' as you put it. Just being pragmatic about the whole thing....choosing the lesser of two evils, and weighing the situation of Ndigbo during colonial rule vis-a-vis what we have today in a purportedly 'independent and democratic' Nigeria. What i'm saying is that i'd rather the British stayed till at least the 80s to help save us from ourselves, than leave on 1st oct' 1960 and hand a fractured and divided Nigeria (b'cos that's exactly what Nigeria was, no matter how we try to gloss over it) over to a bunch of bickering, insecure, bigoted and ill-prepared so called 'founding-fathers' and 'heroes past'!

Afam4eva:

Secession is definitely oe of the ways but don't nder estimate the resolve of Igbos to remain outside Igbo land. Don't be surprised if Igbos, upon secession start trying hard to get Nigerian citizenship. I'm ashamed to say this but the best way may be for local Indegenes to chase all of out of their states. I mean chase us like they did in the 50s and 60s. We've become too relaxed living in Lagos and Abuja.

Omnibus:
secession is the fastest way to plug brain drain in Igbo land. In fact that is the primary reason I support Biafra. You become a foreigner over night , make though decisions or come back home.

Rosskii:


Chances are that if the British had stayed till the 80s, this forum would have less than 50 members, as we'd all be illiterate farmers, hunters, and herdsmen, given the fact that the colonialists invested next to nothing on education. People like you need to use your brain, and go and research the colonial period, and what actually led to people like Awo, Zik, Enahoro and others, to fight the British and demand independence.

At independence, the things we all take for granted today, cars, shoes, fine clothes, modern amenities, electronics, etc were JUST FOR THE VERY FEW RICH. The majority of Nigerians were suffering peasants with no hope for a better life and no education. Be THANKFUL for the independence we got, which saw the immediate building of thousands of schools and vital infrastructure across the entire country, by black govts. Even our first major power plant, Kainji Dam, was built after independence, by the Balewa govt.

People need to study what colonial rule means, and why a nation would leave its shores to establish rulership over another nation thousands of miles away. It is NEVER for the benefit of the latter. It is always for the purposes of EXPLOITATION. Evacuating your resources and retaining the export earnings for their country.

So calling for your colonizer to rule over you for longer is really the height of tomfoolery and ignorance.

Rosskii:


Chances are that if the British had stayed till the 80s, this forum would have less than 50 members, as we'd all be illiterate farmers, hunters, and herdsmen, given the fact that the colonialists invested next to nothing on education. People like you need to use your brain, and go and research the colonial period, and what actually led to people like Awo, Zik, Enahoro and others, to fight the British and demand independence.

At independence, the things we all take for granted today, cars, shoes, fine clothes, modern amenities, electricity, electronics, etc were JUST FOR THE VERY FEW RICH. The majority of Nigerians were suffering village peasants with no hope for a better life and no education. Be THANKFUL for the independence we got, which saw the immediate building of thousands of schools and vital infrastructure across the entire country, by black govts. Even our first major power plant, Kainji Dam, was built after independence, by the Balewa govt.

People need to study what colonial rule means, and why a nation would leave its shores to establish rulership over another nation thousands of miles away. It is NEVER for the benefit of the latter. It is always for the purposes of EXPLOITATION. Evacuating your resources, selling them, and retaining the export earnings for their country.

So calling for your colonizer to rule over you for longer is really the height of tomfoolery and ignorance.

AuntLaVIV:



If the colonial masters never ventured into Africa, the black race and Nigeria in particular would still be killing twins, Nigeria would still remain a place where humans walk around unclad, Nigeria would still be a country where you can't differentiate between monkeys and humans.

Black race should be grateful to Europeans for coming to our rescue. God used them to save Africa.

By 1925 the Europeans have already established DMGS Onitsha.

AlNur:
Putting ashpalt on the now completed bridge over Ike River on the Nenwe-Oduma-Uburu FG road project, which I attracted a few years ago. This area was once thought an impossible terrain, but the road is now a dream come true, connecting Enugu and Ebonyi food baskets. https:///r7O5MkzHMf

Ike just tweeted this afternoon.

Xander85:
Train waiting to evacuate cement at Nkalagu cement factory.

Anyone know if train tracks still extend up to Nkalagu today? I know for sure there's no train service, so there's no point asking!

Digitron:
Update on the Enugu Specialist hospital Orba

The first phase of the 200 bedded Specialist Hospital located in a wide Acre of land owned by ovoko, Iheaka, Imilike and Orba is 90% complete. The asphalt pathways in the facility has been awarded and contractor set to mobilize to site.
The specialist hospital facility is a four phased construction.
The second phase which will include Doctors Quarters, medical Student Hostels etc is set to commence once the remnant 10% of the first phase is completed.


Apologies for the low picture qualities