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Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by chievo: 8:54am On Jul 05, 2012
obakovich:
i tire o. All d militants don be big boiz for ph,we wey no carry gun dey sleep for nairaland dey find job.
.....true talk my dear dats Nigeria 4 u.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Nobody: 8:56am On Jul 05, 2012
Rubishhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Negotiations my Ass,
negotiate with terrørist , u have given them more power's to unleash more terror. Hmmm i am nt agreeing with the so-called dialogue with those, miscreants and murderers, and where are the names of bokoharam sponsors. Nonsense.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Nobody: 8:58am On Jul 05, 2012
obakovich:
i tire o. All d militants don be big boiz for ph,we wey no carry gun dey sleep for nairaland dey find job.
ahahahahah guy u wan kill me with laugh. I hear say D millitants na jeep dem take da cruize town O. Dem da reap d fruits of thier labour.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by noiseless: 9:08am On Jul 05, 2012
Very interesting! And we are monitoring the situation to see where it ends up. No further comment.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Steveonyekachi: 9:09am On Jul 05, 2012
@ahmed nigerdelta militant fought for marginalisation, govtment don't have any reason to dialogue wit bokoharam cuz u meet there need...most bokoharam member believe that they are fighting for Allah. So they also want to islamise Nigerian State..its political and religious act...no dialogue...govtment shroud flash them out
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by phermonyx(m): 9:15am On Jul 05, 2012
ND boys aΩ̴d̶̲̥̅̊ BH are nt d̶̲̥̅̊ same on any ground. ND boys fought for wht rightly belong †̥ dem plus they didnt go about d̶̲̥̅̊ fight bombimg innocent citizens. They had a face aΩ̴d̶̲̥̅̊ they still do, they dont go after d̶̲̥̅̊ poor aΩ̴d̶̲̥̅̊ needy.
BH has all d̶̲̥̅̊ traits of a terrorist group.
@mu2sa, Α̲̅♏ sure dat a large percent of Ųя brain if not all works in a sentimental way.
U̶̲̥̅̊ said BH is fighting for social justice aΩ̴d̶̲̥̅̊ against corruption, ans these questions;
1.) Ħ☺w many corrupt leaders have they killed?
2.) Can U̶̲̥̅̊ say BH knows d̶̲̥̅̊ meaning of 'social' with all dia bombing of innocent nigerians?
U̶̲̥̅̊ also said america did not secure kabul, find out about tinz before U̶̲̥̅̊ type rubbish U̶̲̥̅̊ dis hyper-fool.
@ahmedie, Ųя stupidity is of d̶̲̥̅̊ purest form. Α̲̅♏ sure U̶̲̥̅̊ won't be talking like dis if any of Ųя relatives A̶̲̥̅̊s a victim of BH's activities.
U said all what U̶̲̥̅̊ said cos u guyz are muslims bt so Α̲̅♏ i bt Α̲̅♏ a muslim with common sense, it's still d̶̲̥̅̊ same Quran dat says d̶̲̥̅̊ death of an innocent man is like d death of humanity †̥ Allah.


Negotiating with terrorists does nt end terrorism, it only empowers them more, it shows they are winning aΩ̴d̶̲̥̅̊ dat if they terrorize more, they will get what they want.
Mali tried it, ώε̲̣ all know how Mali is ₪☺w̶̲̥̅.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by ifihearam: 9:17am On Jul 05, 2012
So even if they agree to negotiate then they all become millionaires and the countless souls they have taken will just be swept under the carpet,they walk scot free everywhere there go with escorts abi?
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by ismhab(m): 9:17am On Jul 05, 2012
HOW DID HE GOT THEIR PHONE NUMBER? OR IS HE ONE OF THEM?
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by hakanai(m): 9:31am On Jul 05, 2012
waja: He was an ex Aide to IBB, one of those that failed during regional selection. Why won't him know them. He waited until He was appointed NSA b4 He could get their contact. Woe to them.
^^^^ or maybe Azazi never cared to meet the elders in the north to know exactly what was happening or who to talk to.It is glaring sometimes that a common visit and direct contact with the affected people could provide substantial and reliable information.When Yar'adua tackled the issue of the militants he sent GEJ and some gov once in awhile in to the creeks to hear and get first hand information.Now during the boko haram crisis not GEJ not sambo or NSA can master the courage to pay a first hand assessment of the affect areas.Unofficially Obj went.What a shame!Anyway na so life be o!GEJ is doing selective visits in the heat of pain for people in the core affected areas.With all that happened in Kano he went there!why not Borno or yobe that burns everyday.Just to even keep the spirits of those victimize and assure them that government is aware and concerned.
I welcome the push/visit by the NSA,it will better position him with information to furnish the presidency with first hand analysis so as to decide and tackle this issue.At the same time clear the tonnes of sycophants going to see him and blind him with unreliable selfish information.
Good work NSA!!! It is critical to know first hand.I pray a lasting solution is reached.May God almighty give the leadership and president the wisdom to manage the situation and reach an acceptable position for Nigerians.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by vanstanzy(m): 9:37am On Jul 05, 2012
OMG! Why wont black african politicians ever learn? DIALOGUEING WITH TERRORISTS IS A "NO-NO", U CAN NEVER WIN. This shows how weak and vulnerable our Nigerian govt is. Men, this is some really tiring news.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by edicolove: 9:41am On Jul 05, 2012
As much as I do not agree with government negotiating with terrorists, I do admit here that the BH situation is peculiar and will need a lot of wisdom to handle. BH is terrorism that has the support of the host community. When terrorism has the support of the host community, it becomes impossible to eradicate. This is the situation in Afghan and Iraq. That is why the US with all their resources have not being able to root it out. When you say in a blanket way that gov should not negotiate with terrorists, you assume that conditions of terrorism are the same all over the world and they are not. The british gov has been negotiating with the IRA for years, though not directly. they have even taking some steps to put in place some of their demands.

My problem with BH is that they have the sympathy and support of the core north. The core north sees it as their best way to negotiate themselves back to power. This report has fully confirmed that. Dasuki went to Borno and he got the BH guys phone numbers. How did he get them? Simple. The members of the community in Borno have it. They have always had it. Why did they not release it before? Because they support the movement. They see it as their ticket back to power. We have to understand the game here.

This is what Gen Azazi was saying when he said that the northern consensus candidate move escalated BH. The violence immediately after the 2011 elections corroborated that. But the dilemma for GEJ is that the south is not united as an entity in fighting this northern agenda because of their regional selfish interests. This is what the core north has always capitalised on since independence. The lack of unity in the south. That is exactly what played out in the choice of Tambuwal as speaker. The ACN and APGA reps aligned with the north. But what they forgot is that the North was united in accepting their own. They hardly ever fight their own. As inept as Yaradua was, they never fought him. The same BH never went around throwing bombs even after Yaradua killed their leader. Isn't that funny. When Turai held Nigeria to ransom, no northern leader spoke against her. Instead they joined her to lie and deceive us that Yaradua was hale and hearty. That is how they roll and I respect them for that. But back here, in the south side, we are like fighting dogs. I mean, just read the posts on NL and you have all the evidence you need. The south has never united in one voice to speak against BH. SNG and others have never really come out to take a stand against it. Instead, they will go around insulting the president. They will emphasize how it is his constitutional duty to protect. But in reality, the conditions of society determines how governance works, not just the laws written in a constitution. There are legal solutions and there are political solutions in governance.

I pity Nigerians because they still have no clue what the problem of Nigeria is. It isn't corruption. It is deep seated division in our national psyche. We are not one. We have never been. No matter how much infrastructure you build, it will not bring peace. It will definitely improve the lives of ordinary Nigerians, but it will not bring peace. Only a sincere negotiation between the entities in Nigeria will bring lasting peace.

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Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by signified: 9:43am On Jul 05, 2012
Ahmedie25: @signified,a Dumb like u those not have brain 2 think,if u want 2 kill bokoharam then go & meet them,u just wakeup in ur dream & start saying rubbish,ok u can come 2 lead a war with bokoharam if u didn't want dialogue ,fool

@Ahmedie25, I have told you point blank, you have completely lost it and now showing you are one of them to every Nairalander concerned, can't you see everyone is at your neck for your unintelligent contribution and you still have the nerves to call me a fool lol. This goes to show you are a very bad loser who will never embrace the truth but rather die trying to prove your stupidity as bokoharam would. Your name tells you are one of them and your behavior goes to convince everyone. Killing bokoharam will bring me Joy, I am so sorry if it hurts you as I am very happy to have this opportunity to tell you this directly now that I know why you are so afraid of the fact that negotiations is a waste of time. Are you thinking of get away with your crimes? not in your life. We will fight you with everything, just like you started invisibly and even if the government says its settled, just set up a bokoharam office and see. You started the music and must dance to it. We are waiting for the government to make you guys visible, so that the dance will begin proper. There is a limit of pain the body can tolerate and we have had it, if you have lost an entire family and other love ones, slaughtered on a Sunday inside a Church in one day while serving God.I spit on you! you will hear the scores.

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Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by TechRev: 9:53am On Jul 05, 2012
If this man is serious about Negotiating with these BH, then you all better get prepared and arm yourselves. If GEJ government stick to its stand that they will negotiate if only the leaders of BH show their face. Then:
The BH leaders may give negotiation by proxy as first condition for dialog. Government may not agree.
If the BH leaders come out to negotiate, then at one point The negotiations will definitely fail. Cause their demands will be impossible to the government. Then the two parties go back to their trenches and it will be full scale fire for fire. Now the Gov has seen their confirmed faces, we then see how easy it is for Army to shoot rabits in desert.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Myself2(m): 9:54am On Jul 05, 2012
Which Boko Haram is mallam Dasuki Sambo referring to?
Last time I checked,all the so-called norther leaders that were interviewed during the era of Azazi claimed that boko haram had been hijacked by politicians and other interest groups to further their own interests,so which of them is mallam Dasuki referring to and what does he hope to discuss with the terrorists

I stay around some persons that are close to certain quarters at the wards,LG,State and even the FG.From what I gather,whatever malam Dasuki and his norther co-travellers do or dont do with their bokom haram,no matter who becomes president in 2015,things WILL NEVER revert to staus quo ante 2000 as far as appropriation of the oil wealth of the Niger Delta is concerned

Boys are not smiling at all
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by greall1: 9:59am On Jul 05, 2012
These pple are not ready for any negotiation
They want hausa to become a president again. They don't want any other tribe as president.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Myself2(m): 9:59am On Jul 05, 2012
Ahmedie25: ,[b]ok u can come [/b]2 lead a war with bokoharam if u didn't want dialogue

The bolded has given you away,either you or your sympathies

Whichever is the case,you're in a sinking ship canoe
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by israelbenzion: 9:59am On Jul 05, 2012
Megabyts: when people pass comments like this they display thier cancerous ignorance openly.many times BH have told the world and we all have seen it practically how they get thier funding by attacking banks and get thier guns by attacking police stations.but ignoramous like u continue a wild goose chase for sponsors of BH. BH are a set of young boys like the kidnappers in the south bent on exploitin th loophole in the corrupt security apparatus in nija.

Aww! Must u make a fool of urself? Even though u have been certified 'stupid', must u utilise every opportunity to trumpet it?
If they rob banks to get money, and rob Police Stations to get guns, where do they rob to get bombs and explosives?

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Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Ibrahimmrfish(m): 10:01am On Jul 05, 2012
Who ever say dat usa don't talk with terrorist,dat person is ignorant.Us negotiate with suni group in Iraq,in 2007 and dat help 2 reduce d death rate of us soilders,to 70percent.So keep deciveing ur self,9ja have no resource or d will to fight a 20year war,our millitary is less than 100 thousand,better weak up and face reality.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by bknight: 10:19am On Jul 05, 2012
The government is insincere.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by brosB: 10:24am On Jul 05, 2012
This is a right step in the right direction,am of the oppion that if our security agencies have not been able to achieve an reasonble their use of force to curb the menace of the insurgence of this terorist group they Government will achieve reasonable result I hope when dilouge is applied.this is my humble logomaki as I submit without logowpersia.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by princenat(m): 10:33am On Jul 05, 2012
Here is what I feel about most of our leaders:
1. They are incompetent
2. Power intoxicates them to the highest degree.
3. They don't care.
4.I feel that most of them need to be interrogated by an international crime fighting body. I guess
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by waja(m): 10:37am On Jul 05, 2012
mu2sa2: Late Yar'adua negotiated with terrorists and succeeded, why should negotiating with another set of terrorists be perceived as wrong? Dont tell me that Niger Delta militants were known and fighting for a cause. BH is also the same:their leaders are not jinns, and from 2001 to 2009 BH never engaged in violence, just preaching for social justice and end to corruption. So, it's easy to deal with BH if there is sincerity from FG. People who advocate force and more force forget that violence begets violence. Ask Americans - ten years in Afghanistan with all their missiles, drones, intelligence and MONEY and they hav failed to secure even Kabul the capital city. Dont expect that our rag-tag security forces, corrupt and unreliable as they are,can fare better here.Dialogue, dialogue,dialogue is better than violence. Let's all work for peace and surely God will hear our prayers for peace.
. Why must you make mockery of yourself? Did I hear you say that they were preaching peace between 2001 and 2009? After that a man whose Nigerian source of income have polluted their father land came to power and they (B.H) started preaching BOMBING and KILLING of christians. Why not MUSLIMS. If Buhari had won, they would have continued keeping peace. Woe to them. We are waiting to see their faces during the negotiation.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by nagoma(m): 10:37am On Jul 05, 2012
redcliff: Insane man. He sed he has the numbers of key bokos. Can't they perform intelligence operations? Have network companies they use monitor their every move? When a new bomb is being made, who their associates are and start taking them one by one. Trust me, when spying on someone and the person doesn't know, u r more than a million steps ahead

You should have given the clueless Azazi this advice and there wouldn't have been need to bring Dasuki in. Azazi was a monumental failure , please give the new guy a chance , he has spent less than a month on the job so far.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by HammedSodiqq: 10:38am On Jul 05, 2012
Boko Haram members, though terrorists, are still Nigerians. Any Govt with human face, will always seek to know the reason why some members of the society are aggrieved. Though they have unleashed terror in a bid to expressing their dissatisfaction with Govt policies, the need to engage them in a dialogue so as to find a lasting solution to our security wahala not out of place. America claims to be against negotiation, even when some of their finest philosophers WILLIAMS JAMES, SANDER PIERCE, and JOHN DEWEY advocated PRAGMATISM as a workable solution to existential problems. This philosophy hinges on workability and practicability. Consequently, if dialoque has practical relevance, and proven workability, then it is the only pragmatic solution to our problem.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Piyke: 11:01am On Jul 05, 2012
To tell you how bad the situation is the NSA has the contacts of key Boko Haram boys

Where did he get it from?
The people that gave him those contacts obviously know these people
Its so unfortunate that these insurgents are being sponsored by key northerners
GEJ should go after the kings, queens, knights and rooks and not the pawns. I guess his fear is that such a move may lead down a part for the strong with a very steep climb
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by kinguwem: 11:03am On Jul 05, 2012
The option of the NSA is not a preferable method in this situation. For instance, look at the activities of terrorists in Mali. Regional leaders are calling for the intervention of Ecomog. A former USA president, John kennedy had a bitter experience after authorizing negotiations with terrorists.
The question on this issue is, will the NSA adviser dialogue with Al-Quaeda and other international terrorist groups since Boko Haram has connections with them?
I think the NSA is on a wild goose chase.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by manosteel(m): 11:04am On Jul 05, 2012
If Dasuki knew who the bokoharams were and have their contacts, the first thing he would have is to round them and pick them up Atleast to proof a point. Bokoharam is faceless unlike the Niger Deltan Militant who were bold enough to come out and that was why it was easy for government to strike a deal with them. OBJ made the same mistake, went to far North with FG private Jet and high power delegation to meet Bokoharam, only ended up meet Alamanjiris and the best he could do was to visit Yusuf's family to say hi to them, while name like Abuqada,Abudada,Abukudu and anything that has to do with Abu, the so called leaders of Bokoharam continue to exist in the imaginary world.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by NaijaNaWaa: 11:09am On Jul 05, 2012
Little wonder El Rufai has not been spewing thrash on BH since Dasuki took over. Well, this man would have been designated as the Senior Special Assistant to the President on Boko Haram. He's far from being an NSA.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Nobody: 11:09am On Jul 05, 2012
joe4christ: [size=15pt] MARK MY WORD FOR THE RECORD OF IT.
IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EVENRUALLY NEGOTIATE WITH BOKOHAREM, THEN MORE TERRORIST GROUPS WILL ARISE, GROUPS MORE DEADLIER THAN BOKOHAREM ITSELF AND BRING CHAOS TO THIS COUNTRY OF OURS.
Let's not do what would be of great harm to the future of this great nation and our posterity... [/size]

Bro relax, u don't have to increase ur font size to say something reasonable.

There are only 3 ways to deal with the situation.

1. U give in to their demands. This is unreasonable and therefore ruled out as an option.

2. U wage war against them. U can't declare war on people u can't see (as they don't have a face and do not have a known base, nor do they move around in public. U'll jst end up destroying innocent lives and property.

3. U negotiate with them, not to give in to their demands, but to reach a compromise or try to convince them to stop.

So plz think b4 u comment.
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by Werehkpe: 11:16am On Jul 05, 2012
See how silly this country is

So dem even sabi the boko haram leaders since and dem no wan arrest them and out them behind bars.

Hisss

CFL (Country Full of Lunatics)
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by lacasa: 11:28am On Jul 05, 2012
By product of negotiating with MEND, ds is wat it has given road τ̅o.

Yar'adua shouldn't αve n Gej is glorifying militants by giving them luscious government contracts anϑ even protecting them.

​ so​, wat else should u̶̲̥̅̊​ expect
Re: I Will Meet Boko Haram Members For Dialogue – Dasuki by jaybee(f): 11:42am On Jul 05, 2012
blkmum700:

i thought your boss said he doesn't know them,How come you Are trying to meet with them and who gave you their Numbers when Your boss said he doesn't know who is BH.

The whole thing smacks of a scam.

the man was appointed a few days ago, and after one visit to Yobe and borno states he has the contacts aof Boko haram leaders. ``I was in Yobe and Borno States last week and I have got the telephone numbers and contacts of key Boko Haram members and I will meet with them.
``I saw the dangerous effect of Boko Haram in these states and what I saw was pathetic
.


I (col. Sambo Dasuki; NOT GOVERNMENT!!) have got the telephone numbers and contacts of key Boko Haram members and I (col. Sambo Dasuki; NOT GOVERNMENT!!)will meet with them

I (col. Sambo Dasuki) saw ( just seeing, now that i am CSO) the dangerous effect of Boko Haram in these states and what I saw was pathetic.

patethic indeed; all this while Col Dasuki thought Boko haram were some entertainers and the masses up north are enjoying their acts.


EITHER SOMETHING IS FISHY; or I SMELL A RAT; or BOTH

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