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Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jul 04, 2012
Sanjay Merchant - Los Angeles

At one time in my life I considered myself an atheist. At least I thought that I was an atheist. However, I often struggled with the hypocrisy that I saw in my life due to the difficulties with actually living out atheism. From a detached "intellectual" point of view it's easy to wave your hand and proclaim, "there is no God because there is no proof of his existence." Yet most atheists are really shaking an angry fist in spite of the evidence which they know to exist.

You see, it's easy to claim atheism, but it's difficult to live atheism. I'll explain this later on. But first, I'll explain some things for those who don't know what atheism is about. The word "atheist" literally means, "without God". In other words, the nature of man, his moral standards (or lack thereof) and purpose can be explained outside of the recognition of a creator. Most atheists believe that everything we see in existence is the result of natural, physical processes, which can be observed today.

For example, I believed in the "Big B.ang" theory and Darwinian evolution. I believed in the "Big B.ang" because I thought that it was a scientific explanation as to our existence, while religion was just full of myth. Through later research I found that the "Big B.ang" is not science at all since it is not based on direct observation or testable methods.

In contradiction, it is adhered to "religiously" by those who wish to purposely reject the idea of accountability and a moral standard. Some say, "Well God could have initiated the Big B.ang." But by the time you get to Ylem (the supposed source of the b.ang) you've effectively eliminated any worshipable god from the picture (a very convenient trick for those who don't want God but can't disprove him; just make him really small). In turn, I had simply assumed this theory to be fact as my sixth grade teacher had told me it was so. We studied it along with the fact that the earth revolves around the sun, and that's certainly provable and accepted.

Similarly, I believed that my origins were found in evolution. This was superficially pleasing to me as it was an adequate method to explain away actions that I knew were immoral. Deep inside I was convinced that many of my actions were wrong, but evolution helped me to conveniently rationalize those fears. I was able to blame my actions on my "natural instincts". I would lie to my parents to better my own existence, I would hurt others to ease my own life and assert my dominance over rivals (survival of the fittest), and I would sleep with my girlfriend due to my animal instinct to procreate (though had we succeeded we would have had an abortion - logical?).

I had trouble, however, trying to explain the guilt and sickness I had felt when I knew that I had done what was wrong.

Another real problem arose for me when it came to discussing religion. I could calmly discuss the teachings of Mohammed or Buddha, but when it came to Jesus I became very angry. I thought that an atheist should act rationally and never get angry. After all, it was evolutionarily useless to become so mad, unless it preserved my life.

I argued with and harassed Christians without cause. I hated their joy and love for one another. I felt that they simply needed a crutch; they could have their crutch... I was man enough to face my death. But, I found that I was afraid of life. I hated almost everyone, especially myself... but of course, this was "natural".

One evening I went to a Christian Bible study to argue and set people straight, as I thought. I was convinced that I understood life even though I had never heard the Christian message. I simply believed the hypocrisy I had seen in the headlines, the strict regulations imposed by the Vatican and the hate spread by racists who said that they were Christians (its surprising to note the roots of racism lie in atheism, and are nowhere found in the Bible).

I met people who were nothing like I had imagined. I hung on every word of the speaker. I was in awe of his wisdom, while still attempting to disagree. At the end of the evening he asked if he could pray for me. I allowed him as I did not believe in prayer, but didn't want to be rude. As he finished I opened my eyes in amazement. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was as if I was a newborn... all my vain arguments and anger passed away. I no longer hated these people. I almost ran out in fear. That night I prayed for the first time. I asked Jesus to help me if he was able.

The next day I called my former best friend (I say former because he had become a Christian months before and after many arguments I decided to have no contact with him). He brought two other men that had been close friends of mine in the past also. They answered all my lingering questions and I understood about God for the first time. Afterwards, they prayed for me. I felt as if I had come into the presence of the Jesus that I had hated so much. I raised my hands to fight, but I felt that his arms were wide open... ready to forgive and help me. I broke down in tears and gave my life over to Jesus. I didn't join a religion or a church... I simply came to realize what happens when an atheist meets Jesus.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~slocks/iidiscussion_conversions/40308.html

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Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 11:38pm On Jul 04, 2012
HOAX ALERT!


FAKE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A MISCHIEVOUS CHRISTIAN

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Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Nobody: 11:44pm On Jul 04, 2012
logicboy01: HOAX ALERT!


FAKE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A MISCHIEVOUS CHRISTIAN


Now this state of denial is something you share with Muslims, despite glaring evidence all over the place they still do not believe ONE SOUL has left ISLAM for Christ , it's always a HOAX grin

Leave that Cult mate !!
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 2:22am On Jul 05, 2012
frosbel:


Now this state of denial is something you share with Muslims, despite glaring evidence all over the place they still do not believe ONE SOUL has left ISLAM for Christ , it's always a HOAX grin

Leave that Cult mate !!


Christianity is a cult
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by tobechi20(m): 7:26am On Jul 05, 2012
I belive one day, logic boy wil post his own story teling us haw he has been converted to christianity.

May be he wil be arrest by d lord and b made blind b4 being a pastor
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 10:29am On Jul 05, 2012
tobechi20: I belive one day, logic boy wil post his own story teling us haw he has been converted to christianity.

May be he wil be arrest by d lord and b made blind b4 being a pastor



Dream on
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Image123(m): 1:19pm On Jul 05, 2012
tobechi20: I belive one day, logic boy wil post his own story teling us haw he has been converted to christianity.

May be he wil be arrest by d lord and b made blind b4 being a pastor
i hope he is not converted to christianity, that would be useless. i pray he comes to know Jesus as the Christ, his Christ.
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 1:24pm On Jul 05, 2012
Image123:
i hope he is not converted to christianity, that would be useless. i pray he comes to know Jesus as the Christ, his Christ.


Jesus is a Jew. As a black West African, you dont even question why a Jew would be God not West Africans or Asians or native Americans.
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by EbuksAllison7: 1:46pm On Jul 05, 2012
logicboy01:


Jesus is a Jew. As a black West African, you dont even question why a Jew would be God not West Africans or Asians or native Americans.


ok logicboy, as an atheist that is frankly retarded, if god was a west african wouldnt some people still ask why he was west african and not jewish. #smh

on topic, this 'atheist' sounds like all cliches christians could think off put togeda
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Image123(m): 1:51pm On Jul 05, 2012
logicboy01:


Jesus is a Jew. As a black West African, you dont even question why a Jew would be God not West Africans or Asians or native Americans.


i'm not a racist
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by joe4christ(m): 3:05pm On Jul 05, 2012
logicboy01: HOAX ALERT!


FAKE ARTICLE WRITTEN BY A MISCHIEVOUS CHRISTIAN

And how do you know it was fake, do you have any prove of you above assertion? But seriousely you guys have lost the true meaning of atheism, you guys are just guarded by your hatred for God and the believers of this God (Even though you claim not to believe in his existace)

And i do have this strong feeling that deep down you know what the ex-atheist said is true!
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by cyrexx: 6:20pm On Jul 05, 2012
This is not the first time a fiction has been concocted to spread religious faith and this wont be the last time.
Muslims have stories similar to these, do you believe them. NO.

Even frosbel himself debunked Mary Baxter story that spreads a false religious belief. So why should anyone believe this.

Infact, one should not be suprised as their bible is the work of some brilliant imaginative ancient Jews.

So, frosbel. Clap for yourself, you are actually continuing the legacy of fairy tales telling that your religion has started. But know that its only a non-rational easily-deceived minds that will readily believe these stories.
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 7:29pm On Jul 05, 2012
Image123:
i'm not a racist

But your christianity and Jesus are racists
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 7:31pm On Jul 05, 2012
EbuksAllison7: ok logicboy, as an atheist that is frankly retarded, if god was a west african wouldnt some people still ask why he was west african and not jewish. #smh

on topic, this 'atheist' sounds like all cliches christians could think off put togeda


That is the problem with the Jesus Fairytale. Jesus was a Jew and said he came for only the lost sheep of Isreal to a Canaanite woman. Racist
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by EbuksAllison7: 7:32pm On Jul 05, 2012
logicboy01:


That is the problem with the Jesus Fairytale. Jesus was a Jew and said he came for only the lost sheep of Isreal to a Canaanite woman. Racist
The problem is, you sound like you wouldn't mind if he said he came for the lost sheep of lagos and was black
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 7:35pm On Jul 05, 2012
joe4christ:

And how do you know it was fake, do you have any prove of you above assertion? But seriousely you guys have lost the true meaning of atheism, you guys are just guarded by your hatred for God and the believers of this God (Even though you claim not to believe in his existace)

And i do have this strong feeling that deep down you know what the ex-atheist said is true!


Because the below statement in bold is a lie and smear against atheists.


frosbel:
I simply believed the hypocrisy I had seen in the headlines, the strict regulations imposed by the Vatican and the hate spread by racists who said that they were Christians (its surprising to note the roots of racism lie in atheism, and are nowhere found in the Bible).

Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 7:38pm On Jul 05, 2012
EbuksAllison7:
The problem is, [b]you sound like you wouldn't mind if [/b]he said he came for the lost sheep of lagos and was black


Thanks for reading my mind (and failing). I hope you know that such sorcery is punishable by death in the old testament?

If Jesus were black, it wouldnt change the fact that he is a racist and I would question his xenophobic gospel for only one set of people instead of the whole world.
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Nobody: 7:42pm On Jul 05, 2012
cyrexx: This is not the first time a fiction has been concocted to spread religious faith and this wont be the last time.
Muslims have stories similar to these, do you believe them. NO.

Even frosbel himself debunked Mary Baxter story that spreads a false religious belief. So why should anyone believe this.

Infact, one should not be suprised as their bible is the work of some brilliant imaginative ancient Jews.

So, frosbel. Clap for yourself, you are actually continuing the legacy of fairy tales telling that your religion has started. But know that its only a non-rational easily-deceived minds that will readily believe these stories.

Okay rational mind ,it was a Hoax, no atheist (just like no Muslim ) has ever repented of their sins and submitted to the Lordship of Christ. grin
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by EbuksAllison7: 7:45pm On Jul 05, 2012
logicboy01:


Thanks for reading my mind (and failing). I hope you know that such sorcery is punishable by death in the old testament?

If Jesus were black, it wouldnt change the fact that he is a racist and I would question his xenophobic gospel for only one set of people instead of the whole world.





eh, thanks for clarification. Btw, I'm ea7
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 7:49pm On Jul 05, 2012
EbuksAllison7: eh, thanks for clarification. Btw, I'm ea7


Were you trolling me or something? angry angry

You very well know that I hate bigotry. You know my stance on these issues.
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by cyrexx: 7:53pm On Jul 05, 2012
frosbel:

Okay rational mind ,it was a Hoax, no atheist (just like no Muslim ) has ever repented of their sins and submitted to the Lordship of Christ. grin

of course, there has always been conversions to and from christianity, islam and atheism, and there will always be. but does that prove any truth.

if a muslim converts from islam to christianity and accepts christ as lord and saviour, you would shout for joy and show this as a proof of the validity of christian faith
but if a christian convert to islam, would you show that as a validity of the islamic faith? NO.

see what i mean.

conversions from one faith to another is no proof of anything
let alone unconfirmed stories of conversion
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by alexleo(m): 9:03pm On Jul 05, 2012
Exactly my findings about atheists hence my advice that we stop further argument with them. We ve argued enough. There are more important and edifying topics we can discuss.

frosbel: Sanjay Merchant - Los Angeles

At one time in my life I considered myself an atheist. At least I thought that I was an atheist. However, I often struggled with the hypocrisy that I saw in my life due to the difficulties with actually living out atheism. From a detached "intellectual" point of view it's easy to wave your hand and proclaim, "there is no God because there is no proof of his existence." Yet most atheists are really shaking an angry fist in spite of the evidence which they know to exist.

You see, it's easy to claim atheism, but it's difficult to live atheism. I'll explain this later on. But first, I'll explain some things for those who don't know what atheism is about. The word "atheist" literally means, "without God". In other words, the nature of man, his moral standards (or lack thereof) and purpose can be explained outside of the recognition of a creator. Most atheists believe that everything we see in existence is the result of natural, physical processes, which can be observed today.

For example, I believed in the "Big B.ang" theory and Darwinian evolution. I believed in the "Big B.ang" because I thought that it was a scientific explanation as to our existence, while religion was just full of myth. Through later research I found that the "Big B.ang" is not science at all since it is not based on direct observation or testable methods.

In contradiction, it is adhered to "religiously" by those who wish to purposely reject the idea of accountability and a moral standard. Some say, "Well God could have initiated the Big B.ang." But by the time you get to Ylem (the supposed source of the b.ang) you've effectively eliminated any worshipable god from the picture (a very convenient trick for those who don't want God but can't disprove him; just make him really small). In turn, I had simply assumed this theory to be fact as my sixth grade teacher had told me it was so. We studied it along with the fact that the earth revolves around the sun, and that's certainly provable and accepted.

Similarly, I believed that my origins were found in evolution. This was superficially pleasing to me as it was an adequate method to explain away actions that I knew were immoral. Deep inside I was convinced that many of my actions were wrong, but evolution helped me to conveniently rationalize those fears. I was able to blame my actions on my "natural instincts". I would lie to my parents to better my own existence, I would hurt others to ease my own life and assert my dominance over rivals (survival of the fittest), and I would sleep with my girlfriend due to my animal instinct to procreate (though had we succeeded we would have had an abortion - logical?).

I had trouble, however, trying to explain the guilt and sickness I had felt when I knew that I had done what was wrong.

Another real problem arose for me when it came to discussing religion. I could calmly discuss the teachings of Mohammed or Buddha, but when it came to Jesus I became very angry. I thought that an atheist should act rationally and never get angry. After all, it was evolutionarily useless to become so mad, unless it preserved my life.

I argued with and harassed Christians without cause. I hated their joy and love for one another. I felt that they simply needed a crutch; they could have their crutch... I was man enough to face my death. But, I found that I was afraid of life. I hated almost everyone, especially myself... but of course, this was "natural".

One evening I went to a Christian Bible study to argue and set people straight, as I thought. I was convinced that I understood life even though I had never heard the Christian message. I simply believed the hypocrisy I had seen in the headlines, the strict regulations imposed by the Vatican and the hate spread by racists who said that they were Christians (its surprising to note the roots of racism lie in atheism, and are nowhere found in the Bible).

I met people who were nothing like I had imagined. I hung on every word of the speaker. I was in awe of his wisdom, while still attempting to disagree. At the end of the evening he asked if he could pray for me. I allowed him as I did not believe in prayer, but didn't want to be rude. As he finished I opened my eyes in amazement. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was as if I was a newborn... all my vain arguments and anger passed away. I no longer hated these people. I almost ran out in fear. That night I prayed for the first time. I asked Jesus to help me if he was able.

The next day I called my former best friend (I say former because he had become a Christian months before and after many arguments I decided to have no contact with him). He brought two other men that had been close friends of mine in the past also. They answered all my lingering questions and I understood about God for the first time. Afterwards, they prayed for me. I felt as if I had come into the presence of the Jesus that I had hated so much. I raised my hands to fight, but I felt that his arms were wide open... ready to forgive and help me. I broke down in tears and gave my life over to Jesus. I didn't join a religion or a church... I simply came to realize what happens when an atheist meets Jesus.

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~slocks/iidiscussion_conversions/40308.html
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by cyrexx: 9:51pm On Jul 05, 2012
alexleo: Exactly my findings about atheists hence my advice that we stop further argument with them. We ve argued enough. There are more important and edifying topics we can discuss.

run run run away.
soldiers of christ are now running away when they ran out of reasonable ideas to defend their religion.

it is actually the signs of the end time.
yes, the end of RELIGION and the dawn of a new era called RATIONAL THINKING.

many years from now, our grandchildren's grandchildren will wonder why their forefathers believed all these superstitious myths from an ancient irrelevant books called bible and quran
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Image123(m): 5:47pm On Jul 06, 2012
logicboy01:

But your christianity and Jesus are racists
you are the only racist i see.
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 6:15pm On Jul 06, 2012
Image123:
you are the only racist i see.

And how am I racist?
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Image123(m): 6:49pm On Jul 06, 2012
logicboy01:


Jesus is a Jew. As a black West African, you dont even question why a Jew would be God not West Africans or Asians or native Americans.


Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by logicboy01: 7:25pm On Jul 06, 2012




amd how is that statement racist?
Re: Here is the text of one ex-atheist testimony.... by Ptolomeus(m): 8:39pm On Jul 06, 2012
Excuse you. I do not understand.
There be any doubt that Jesus was Jewish?
Supporters of the forum, citing dozens of passages out of context, why not cite the hundreds of scriptures, which say that Jesus was Jewish? There is nothing racist about that!
Were racist who enslaved Africa, and also sentenced to centuries of backwardness and poverty, forcing Africans to accept their religions and traditions. These latter yes, they are racist!
And there are the meek ... the slaves knelt accepting these foreign cults, without shackles.
Ah, the old African had to be shackled, tortured and killed to break their traditions ... but other Africans look up to the slave, they feel inferior, they meekly accept imposed beliefs, believing that this would be accepted ... But for Europeans, an African Christian continues to be an African ... That itself is racism ...
There seems to be running out of arguments, and some have already written off topic.
Arriba la celeste!

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